Official OPPO BDP-105 Owner's Thread - Page 110

The instructions to "extract" the file are misleading, at least on Windows 7. The downloaded file is already a .iso file. I can open it up with 7zip and see the folder called SUPER, but because it is already an iso file, extracting that would be a mistake.

Instead, at least in Windows 7, just right-click on the downloaded file and it has Burn Disk Image as an option. Select that, and it creates a proper copy onto CD-R.

My problem was just that I used DVD-RW the first time.

This time, the Oppo didn't give me the unrecognized-disk error.

I'm thinking of doing the following and dumping my BK Ref 20 preampfor multiple reasons and I THINK it will work from my research and hours on this thread, but would like confirmation if any of the experts here are kind enough to provide it. I am 80/20 Music/HT user. I have cut the cable for over a year and only miss the occasional network weekend NBA/NFL and Jeopardy. I can skip time shifting for now, so OTA antenna meets my needs.

Proposed setup:

Oppo 105 running analog to Anthem MCA5 amplifier 5 inputs (so no preamp) and subwoofer analog from Oppo going to REL sub (speakers are full range fronts and center with small satellites as surround).
HDMI 1 out w/ARC to Panasonic VT50 plasma.
OTA antenna on Panny 65VT50 for TV content

The following connected to HDMI input on Oppo 105 via an HDMI switcher from Monoprice:
Apple TV
Xbox 360

Sonos ZP80 connected via coax or optical input on Oppo 105 for lossless audio from FLAC on NAS.

So...would I be able to:
Watch OTA HD on the Panny with 5.1 audio coming from the Oppo to MCA5?
Watch Netflix, Hulu, etc and game with 5.1 audio from ATV and Xbox?
Listen to stereo music via Sonos?

If the above 3 are possible, this may be my next system.

Thanks in advance for any assistance!

Bonus question, as it's not essential for taking the plunge...the MCA5 amp has balanced inputs...can I attach both the analog RCA Left/Right channels and the balanced stereo output to the amp left/right input so that analogs are used for everything except the Sonos stereo, when the balanced stereo outputs take effect?

Thank Chris for sticking with this point - you area absolutely correct.

This was on my list to look into and I am glad I did. I could not play 5.1 FLAC files over wireless. Once I figured out the bandwidth requirements, is seemed like it should easily work:

5.1 FLAC File/ 96K/ 24bit / 13824 kbps. That is equal to 13.5 Mbps (I think), so even on a slow link of 54Mbps, that should be no big deal. My connection is 100Mbps tops using my wireless extender, if the link (wireless n 2.4GHz) is strong - and normally it is, claiming 115-130 Mbps normally.

I checked the router config, turned off QOS, and rebooted it and now all is fine - network streaming of audio plays perfectly. Turns out, I had a QOS config problem: WMM was enabled - not good apparently, and I had the VOIP port set to "Highest" - also not good; setting it to "High" fixed everything.

The Roku VUDU test passed for HDX (1080p) - it needs around 9Mpbs to do that. I watched some free samples at 1080P/Dolby Digial 5.1.

So Chis is right; both the Oppo and Roku Stick over wireless do work plenty fine unless there are pretty bad network issues or configuration errors.

Steve
Edited by stevepow - 1/27/13 at 11:13am

What you can do, if I am reading this correctly, is use the Balanced Stereo outputs configured as Front L / Front R (Audio Processing / Stereo Signal Menu). So you don't need to attach both Stereo RCA and Balanced - and you don't connect the L/R multi-channel RCAs either. Sonos will play stereo through the balanced outs and any multi-channels sources will use them as FL/FR.

If you don't need those Stereo Outputs for a dedicated stereo amp or for a second zone, using them for FL/FR should give the best sound.

And I hope I'm not in the weeds again with this - still taking some fairly strong flu drugs.

Regarding the skip-to-longest-title feature when playing DVDs, is there a similar feature for BD? I popped in "Drive" last night and holy hell, there were SEVEN trailer at the beginning of the disc. Totally ridiculous. Perhaps there is a firmware hack that adds this feature? Google isn't turning up anything for me.

No, we've never discovered a shortcut. My suspicion is the BDA doesn't allow it; that intro material is there for a reason: you'll watch it and like it.

This would probably screw up startup on discs with java; there doesn't seem to be a standard as to when it loads: before, during or after intro material.

-Bill

It shouldn't be a problem as long as the power amp has a switch to select between RCA & XLR, correct?

You'd think that, but the Anthem P5 has input switches, and someone on here burned his up anyway.

Maybe I am reading this wrong, but i have only two weeks to decide which additional PCs I want to install the full program on?

Maybe I don't even need to install JRiver on multiple machines, ( I understand there is a browser interface of some sort), but I haven't had the opportunity to familiarize myself fully with this rather large paradigm shift in handling digital music files.

Thanks for any responses.

IIRC the switch you reference only changes the bias to whichever cable type you choose to use.

And to provide balance I'll jump in to say that I've had my Marantz SM-11S1 amp hooked up to both an 83SE and now a 105 RCA & XLR outputs for many years. Hard to imagine there would be an issue as this amp was clearly designed to switch between RCA and XLR inputs.

So we can make the definitive statement: it depends.

Styln

not that I have answers to your problem. I own the oppo 93 and the gt25. its a great combination. you are in good hands. for PQ a least.

Jacob

Adele Live at the Royal Albert Hall

WOW - what an awesome BD concert video (to play on your BDP-105)! Pretty sure I'm not the target audience, which makes this recommendation even more amazing: vocals, band, orchestra, and even the audience. Full of great stories and on your sleeve emotions. Not at all what I expected...

Highly Recommended.

Styln

If all your PC's are on the same network, then it makes no difference.
You can install only one.
If you have a PC located near your Oppo, then use that one because it gives you the option of connecting the USB input.

J River can stream to any renderer the 105 and many receivers/processors.

- Rich

So if it "depends", that means i can't trust that the switch at the back of the amp will faithfully select between balanced & unbalanced inputs? Wouldn't that totally defeat the purpose of that switch???

I wonder too if it is your unit - I watched several more TED videos today and also tried VUDU native on the Oppo as well as on the Roku stick and I can't make it get out of sync no matter what I do.

That said, I had to power it off before I was able to do any of the above because it got locked up again when I tried to eject a Blu-ray disc that was not playing. Not bad enough to have to pull the power cord, but it took maybe 15 seconds to power off. Immediately before that I was listening to Sonos over Input 7 (coax) - but I may have done some network audio earlier - can't remember. I have to start paying more attention to what causes the lock up so I can report it.

Each time you get a registration key from J River, it's good for 2 weeks. You then need to get another key after those 2 weeks expire, which is a simple procedure. They do limit how many times you can get a new key each year, but I've never run into a problem. There's a J River thread over in the HTPC forum that you might want to peruse and J River also has their own forum where you can find tons of help with the software.

The point is that it depends on the specific amp being used - don't assume that just because there's a switch present that it's safe to connect to both inputs. It's best to contact the manufacturer first and get a definitive answer for the particular amp you're using.

Nope.  In many cases, the purpose of the switch is to optimize the input circuitry for the connection you choose, not to choose between alternatives.

I'm using Windows XP, SP3 and right-clicking doesn't present me with an option to burn a disc. That may well depend on what software a user has installed. I just tried double-clicking on the downloaded ISO file and my computer opened up Roxio Creator DE, v. 9 and defaulted to a choice to "Burn Image" which seems to have put the SUPER folder and its files on the CD. I can't test it because I've already made the BDP-105 multi-region for DVDs. (I never used Roxio before this and it may have come with my computer.)

I followed the language used on the page that I linked to in my original post, but you're right that the downloaded file *is* an ISO file. I just wanted to point out that this ISO file will not do anything if simply copied and burned to a CD that's loaded into the OPPO (I mistakenly tried that) - something needs to be done to the downloaded super_disk.iso file first. I used WinRAR and you used 7zip to do what needed to be done and apparently Roxio Creator DE would also work. I think extracting describes what needs to be done to get to the required folder/files, but maybe another word is better (Wikipedia also uses unpacking and unarchiving).

Anyway, it's good that you've solved the DVD part of your multi-region problem. I wonder why a DVD doesn't work.

Me too! I would have thought the media would look the same to the reader, but apparently it is looking specifically for a CD format.

A DVD won't work because an ISO file is a disk image. In the case of this file it is an image of a CD not a DVD.

So even if a bit-for-bit copy of the disk image is transferred to the DVD, it won't be seen by the player as a CD?

Rhapsody playback on the BDP-105 has a bug. The song will skip forward a significant amount on long tracks. For example, while playing a 9 minute track the music skipped ahead 4 minutes. Only played minutes 1-4 and 8-9.

I don't consider Rhapsody high resolution. Last I checked they were streaming 160kbps. Good enough for the gym, not suitable for a home system based on the BDP-105 (in my opinion).

Can someone please guide me on the best way to hook up the Oppo BDP 105 with an Onkyo TX NR 5009 amplifier : to be able to make use of the Oppo's DAC to improve sound quality.

My config is Sonos ZP 90 connected through Optical Cable to Oppo 105. Oppo connected through the Multichannel analog outputs to the Onkyo. Onkyo is connected to Klipsch reference speakers through Banana Plugs and Diamond OFC. I only have FL, FR, C and SW hooked up at this stage.

With this configuration, I do not get any audio output on the C and SW although the FL and FR are working fine. This is happening with 5.1 DTS / SACD discs played directly on the Oppo and also with music streamed from the Sonos through the Oppo to the Onkyo.

When I take the Oppo out of the equation and stream the Sonos directly to the Onkyo through the Optical connection, all speakers work fine. With this setup, the sound quality appears clearer - but then this could be because of ALL speakers contributing. Or could it be because the Onkyo's DAC is superior to the Oppo's ? I certainly hope not, otherwise I would have blown $ 1200 on the Oppo (I plan to use the Oppo for Audio only at this stage, not for video).

Appreciate any help here.

 

1.   Mine has perfect A/V sync on the few programs i've played with. I'm still using the December 2012 beta FW.

 

2.   Nope.

 

3.   Nope, and this is the one that frustrates me the most. Lockups are rather common...

- make sure the Onkyo multi-channel inputs are selected for the playback input
- make sure the Oppo Playback Setup is configured so that SACD Priority is "Multi-Channel"

In the Oppo Audio Processing Menu:
- make sure the Oppo Speaker Configuration is set for 5.1 Downmix (or 7.1 if you are using all 8 input channels) and that the SL/SR (SBL/SBR) speakers are set to OFF (this redirects all surrounds to the fronts)
- make sure Sub is set to ON.
- stop any source from playing (you may have to eject any disc and go to "Home"), then back to Setup / Speaker Configuration and enable the test tones and make sure each speaker, L/R/C/Sub, plays the appropriate test tone. Test Tones will not be available if any source is playing or paused.
- if you want bass-steering (subwoofer output) for Sonos sources, set the Front Speakers to Small and set the Oppo crossover appropriately
- Sonos, as a stereo source, will not output to Center unless you enable DTS Neo:6 Mode in the Oppo

- optionally, if you don't need the Oppo to play to a second zone or to a dedicated stereo system, consider connecting the Stereo Outputs to the Onkyo FL/FR inputs and do not use the Oppo multi-channel output FL/FR RCA connections. In the Audio Processing / Stereo Signal menu - set Stereo Signal to Front Left/Right. This will use the best DACs for FL/FR.

You must be using DTS Neo or similar to expand Sonus into surround if you are getting a center channel from the Onkyo.
Are you using Audyssey in the Onkyo? If so and it is correcting a severe room problem, it is possible that you will prefer that sound over using the Oppo DACs bare. Audyssey tends to jack up the HF bands which can create a sense of clarity (and possibly fatigue for long listening sessions).
Try giving the Oppo a shot though for several days. I originally liked Audyssey - I thought - but now I really don't care for it so much and generally prefer the Oppo analog outputs.

Steve
Edited by stevepow - 1/27/13 at 10:57pm

 

In Windows 7 for me, I changed the Default Opening Program from Winrar.exe to Windows Disc Image Burner

 

 

I also first renamed the file to super_disk.iso. Then i changed its properties to open using windows disc image burner then renamed to super_disk and it was still seen as an iso file. You may not need to do these extra steps in your system.

Seems like they're both great players. I chose the 105, because it has no fan noise.

Chris, reading is fundamental.

The "timing" parameters I was referring to were in response to the question raised by the other poster about adjusting HDMI/HDCP handshaking in firmware alone (no hardware changes needed) -- i.e., the handshake protocol timing and the underlying implementation details of the HDMI handshake.

Not the audio/video sync.

Audio/video sync for the Inputs is ALSO fixable by firmware, but it is a separate issue from HDMI handshaking as you've already discovered.
--Bob