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post #3451 of 10139
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I don't know where to begin. There's basically nothing in this post that's correct.

There is no storage inside the OPPO you can use to "download" songs. The only drive in the OPPO is the shiny disc (optical) drive. Files played from USB-attached, external hard drives play at IDENTICAL quality to the same files played off of shiny disc, so if your WAV rips aren't sounding identical to the CDs you ripped from, then there is something wrong with the way you did the ripping.
--Bob

Yes I got confused with comments made about deleting files from "playlists" thinking that meant the 105 could store songs. Thanks for clarifying for me. I have to do more tests to see if there is a difference in quality. If everything is going through same circuitry, there shouldn't be any.
post #3452 of 10139
I may have to be re directed to another threat that deals with CODEC conversion, so please don't hesitate to let me know, but this does involve the 105.

I have a files from a Sony HDR-55V ACHD camcorder that I copied to a 2TB G Drive, connected through USB to a Time Capsule and then access through the 105's network function.
Playback is flawless - beautiful! --- only its Sony's AVCHD format promo they use to showcase the features of the camcorder. The files i want to see are the ones that i shot, however are in this .mts playlist format which the 105
doesn't recognize. Would I have to install some kind of codec conversion software on the G drive as the source and convert to an HD file recognized by OPPO? and how can I ensure that the format is still HD losless?

Again apologies if this is OT!
post #3453 of 10139
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Originally Posted by beatmachine View Post

I may have to be re directed to another threat that deals with CODEC conversion, so please don't hesitate to let me know, but this does involve the 105.

I have a files from a Sony HDR-55V ACHD camcorder that I copied to a 2TB G Drive, connected through USB to a Time Capsule and then access through the 105's network function.
Playback is flawless - beautiful! --- only its Sony's AVCHD format promo they use to showcase the features of the camcorder. The files i want to see are the ones that i shot, however are in this .mts playlist format which the 105
doesn't recognize. Would I have to install some kind of codec conversion software on the G drive as the source and convert to an HD file recognized by OPPO? and how can I ensure that the format is still HD losless?

Again apologies if this is OT!

I don't have an .mts file in my test suite, but the wikipedia suggests this is the same (?) as the M2TS container with MPEG2 contents.

Take one of your files and rename the extension from ".mts" to ".m2ts". Does it play now?

If no good, just to be sure: copy the new file to a USB thumb drive or hard drive and attach it to the player directly.

If still no good we'll have to look for a conversion utility.

-Bill
post #3454 of 10139
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I don't have an .mts file in my test suite, but the wikipedia suggests this is the same (?) as the M2TS container with MPEG2 contents.

Take one of your files and rename the extension from ".mts" to ".m2ts". Does it play now?

If no good, just to be sure: copy the new file to a USB thumb drive or hard drive and attach it to the player directly.

If still no good we'll have to look for a conversion utility.

-Bill


thanks Bill --will let you know..!
post #3455 of 10139
I suppose, until it' resolved, one can always play the original disk with it's gap-less segues in the 105's transport.
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post #3456 of 10139

I have not done ripping of Cd's yet, so if I do get in to that, then what is the best way to play them through Oppo 105, just connect to the USB or something else. As I said I am new to this.

 

Also on the same topic;

 

1. What is the best way to rip and catalog, Windows Media Player? Is there any loss in quality?

 

2. Can you rip SACD's and DVD-A's, if yes, then is there any loss in sound quality.

 

If this is not the right place to ask these questions, then please point me to the right place.

 

Thanks.

post #3457 of 10139
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Originally Posted by jokerman1226 View Post

One thing to consider, that I am experiencing is that you can't get gapless playback with the 105 currently, even with FLAC files. This is not good for seamless segues on albums like Dark Side of Moon, etc. Hopefully, Oppo will fix this in a future firmware update though. Can't wait, as I was excited about creating a giant Grateful Dead database on an external hard drive. Won't undertake that until this is resolved though!

The decoder hardware is not designed to open and start decoding the next file -- which, if you think about it, could be ANY type/format -- and pre-buffer it to allow a gapless transition from the current file. Basically the hardware only supports gapless within restricted folder structures -- where what can possibly come next is limited, i.e., like playing a CD or a Blu-ray.

So I'll be very surprised if OPPO manages to implement general gapless playback via firmware changes in this hardware.

Consider for example that FLAC file #2 might have different channel count from FLAC fils #1 -- which means you need to have an HDMI handshake among other things.

You, the user, know that the situation isn't complicated, but the decoder hardware is expected to handle the general case.

So basically the only way to get gapless now is to rip all tracks into a single file, or to play one of the restricted format structures.
--Bob
post #3458 of 10139
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Originally Posted by paradigm25 View Post

I have not done ripping of Cd's yet, so if I do get in to that, then what is the best way to play them through Oppo 105, just connect to the USB or something else. As I said I am new to this.

Also on the same topic;

1. What is the best way to rip and catalog, Windows Media Player? Is there any loss in quality?

2. Can you rip SACD's and DVD-A's, if yes, then is there any loss in sound quality.

If this is not the right place to ask these questions, then please point me to the right place.

Thanks.

You can rip CDs with WMP. Just make sure you select the "WAV (lossless)" output mode in the options tab. You can rip DVD-As but I haven't done so yet. SACDs can apparently be ripped with PS3 and there doesn't seem to be another option for doing that. There shouldn't be any loss in sound from ripping to a lossless format.
post #3459 of 10139
I currently have a stereo based system which I sometimes use for watching movies as well. For that reason I would love adding a subwoofer to my setup. The problem is that my integrated stereo amp doesn't have a subwoofer output.
Could I connect the subwoofer directly to BDP-105 an let the OPPO do the bass management? Would it work like that?
post #3460 of 10139
Yes.
--Bob
post #3461 of 10139
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Originally Posted by jokerman1226 View Post

One thing to consider, that I am experiencing is that you can't get gapless playback with the 105 currently, even with FLAC files. This is not good for seamless segues on albums like Dark Side of Moon, etc. Hopefully, Oppo will fix this in a future firmware update though. Can't wait, as I was excited about creating a giant Grateful Dead database on an external hard drive. Won't undertake that until this is resolved though!

Well, you can play gapless on the OPPO but you have to use the OPPO as a USB DAC and play the files from your own file player that supports lossless.
post #3462 of 10139
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Originally Posted by tOMZY View Post

I currently have a stereo based system which I sometimes use for watching movies as well. For that reason I would love adding a subwoofer to my setup. The problem is that my integrated stereo amp doesn't have a subwoofer output.
Could I connect the subwoofer directly to BDP-105 an let the OPPO do the bass management? Would it work like that?

 

Welcome to the forum of audio lovers tOMZYsmile.gif!

 

Yes, you can and as long as your subwoofer is active, i.e has a built in power amplifier. Disable/Bypass its lowpass filter or set it to the highest frequency possibleif no bypass switch is available.

 

- Use the MCH outputs of the 105 instead of the Stereo outputs for the setup you are looking for.The LF/RF go to your intergrated stero amp and the SUB output to the subwoofer.

 

- Choose the crossover frequency between your sub and the mains. For the sub, you can set it in the Oppo setup screen by setting the speakers to "Small" and entering your distance/trim settings. The choice of xover frequency depends on the capabilities of your main speakers and sub itself. Its best to set it at least an octave(twice the frequency) above the rated low-end frequency response of your speakers.

 

For example, if your speakers are rated to go down to 30Hz, set your xover to at least 60Hz, with 80Hz probably being the ideal. You shouldn't ever go above 120Hz or else you'll start to hear dialog through the subwoofer, which is not desirable.

 

Lastly, match the output levels of the sub(via its volume/gain control knob) to equal the output levels from your mains using an SPL meter and an audio test/calibration disk. Pink noise works great for these kinds of tests.

 

Make sure you get a extremely capable sub that you can afford to buy, i.e musical, rated with excellent low frequency response(below 20Hz) and with wide overall bandwidth.

 

 

Hope the above is clear and works for you...

 

- David

post #3463 of 10139
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Originally Posted by PAD View Post

I went through the first 13 pages and did not see this question. 113 more to go and argh!

How are folks hooking up their Oppo unit if they are using a Processor with similar audio and video enhancement circuits?

1. The Oppo 105 has analog outputs so you can use the internal dac for “good” sound.

a. Does a typical AV processor leave these signals alone if the Oppo is connected to the processor via standard AV cabling, therefore preserving the Oppo dac signal?


2. The Oppo does 4K scaling.

a. Should this be connected directly to the display and bypass the AV Processor to solely use the Oppo 4K circuitry?

b. Assumption is that if the Oppo is connected to a processor via HDMI, the processor’s video chips will take over. Correct?


3. I would assume a listen and viewing of all these permutations could lead to the Oppo analog out audio and the processor’s video being preferred, but is this possible once an HDMI cable is inserted in the loop?


The Oppo is attractive as a stereo dac, especially with the Modwright tube mod, but I want to make sure I do not short-cut its potential upside in sound by defaulting to a processor’s circuitry if it is less capable to my ears.

All of this just depends and it depends on what equipment your talking about.
1a depends on how that processesor was designed. Most multichannal in's remain in tact while most (many?) stereo inputs get converted to digital unless there is a pure direct mode. Anytime your using room correction or bass management in the processor, the signal has been digitized.

2a. depends. Does the processor support 4K pass through? The Oppo also has 2 outs so you can send one to the processor and one to the TV if needed. Is there any 4k material anyway?

2b. depends.

3. don't understand the question but if you're using HDMI then there is no analog. Though yes, all outputs are always active so there is a separate analog output.
post #3464 of 10139
Oppo BDP-105 Audiophile Universal Blu-ray Player - Audioholics - Gene DellaSala - February 3, 2013
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Conclusion
Oppo provBDP-105-Front.jpged that they could build the ultimate audiophile and videophile Universal Blu-ray player for a fraction of the cost of so many so called “high end” manufacturers. Oppo made enough minor improvements in features and performance over the BDP-93 and BDP-95 units to justify the creation of these new models. From the BDP-105’s impeccable benchmark performance to its excellent build quality and usability, this player leaves you wanting nothing. The BDP-105 not only raises your expectations of what all Blu-ray players should be like, but it also elevates what you’d expect from a high end transport costing thousands more. If your primary usage of this player is for digital multi-channel audio, then I’d suggest its cheaper sibling the BDP-103. However if you are fully intent on building a two-channel and multi-channel system of equal measure, I simply can’t make a higher recommendation than the super duper BDP-105 Blu-ray dream machine. Until Oppo builds a real world Star Trek holodeck, you will be hard pressed to better your A/V experience with any other source device. Live long and prosper and long live Oppo!
post #3465 of 10139
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Originally Posted by paradigm25 View Post

Can you rip SACD's and DVD-A's, if yes, then is there any loss in sound quality.

dBpoweramp is popular for ripping CD`s. I use the freeware EAC.
To rip DVD-A`s, try DVD Audio Extractor. Ripping SACD`s is a lot more complicated.
post #3466 of 10139
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post


Yes, you can and as long as your subwoofer is active, i.e has a built in power amplifier.

Thanks, David! Looks like BDP-105 is going to serve me well in even more ways than I expected smile.gif That also includes getting rid of Beresford Caiman DAC.
post #3467 of 10139
I just bought a pre-amp to go with my BDP-105. I had sold my old pre-amp/processor and had wired my BDP-105 directly to my amplifiers. I love the BDP-105, but really miss my pre-amp. The reason I can't live with a BDP-105 alone:

1. Volume control! I need knobs. Hate it when the phone rings and I have to turn down the unit quickly but can't find the remote! Having a volume adjustment (and mute button) on the physical unit seems really important once you live without it.

2. DTS NEO6: Sometimes I want all speakers working when listening to a two channel source. The DTS NEO feature of the Oppo is filled with bugs (e.g. only works when 7.1 is active, not 5.1, although I'm sure this will be fixed in updates). Also, I don't like going to the set-up menu every time I want to turn Neo on/off. I wish Oppo would allow the "audio" button on the remote to quickly turn Neo on/off when playing two-channel sources through it's digital inputs (currently the audio button does nothing with digital input sources).

3. Even when DTS NEO is working fine, there are no settings to adjust the audio (e.g. center width, dimension, etc.). I find these settings help tremendously to fine tune two channel audio for multi-channel listening. I know the audiophile community doesn't approve of modifying two-channel sources into multi-channel, but I like it! Then there's the lack of a 5-channel stereo mode. Sometimes I'm working around my apartment and want all channels to work. I'm not always sitting in the sweet spot doing critical listening.

4. No Dolby Pro Logic mode. When watching regular TV (via off air antenna) and using the optical/coaxial digital inputs, many shows are in DD 2.0. This means nothing comes from the center channel. Kinda annoying! I like to activate Dolby Pro Logic for some of these times (mostly news shows).

5. I really like watching Netflix through my HTPC (via the app in Windows Media Center). Everything is broadcast in Dolby Pro Logic. You can't get DD. Since there is no Dolby Pro Logic on the Oppo, all movies are watched in two channel stereo mode. Bummer! I know I can get DD 5.1 if I use the built-in Netflix app on the Oppo, but I just prefer to use my HTPC.

Please note that I love the Oppo and it's digital inputs. I know it can't do everything a processor does, but it's a condensed version. I gave it a shot without a pre-amp and just miss the conveniences listed above. I just bought an older McIntosh MX-119 to serve my pre-amp/processor needs.
post #3468 of 10139
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The decoder hardware is not designed to open and start decoding the next file -- which, if you think about it, could be ANY type/format -- and pre-buffer it to allow a gapless transition from the current file. Basically the hardware only supports gapless within restricted folder structures -- where what can possibly come next is limited, i.e., like playing a CD or a Blu-ray.

Or an ISO?

post #3469 of 10139
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

I just bought a pre-amp to go with my BDP-105. I had sold my old pre-amp/processor and had wired my BDP-105 directly to my amplifiers. I love the BDP-105, but really miss my pre-amp. The reason I can't live with a BDP-105 alone:

1. Volume control! I need knobs. Hate it when the phone rings and I have to turn down the unit quickly but can't find the remote! Having a volume adjustment (and mute button) on the physical unit seems really important once you live without it.

s.

Can't you just push pause then? Or stop. There's on the component itself and would be the same as hitting mute.
post #3470 of 10139
What freeware DMR Digital Media Renderers (DMRs) are you using to stream to your Oppo? I've tried to using foobar2000 with the UPnP Controller plug-in, but it seems real buggy. It sounds great when it's working, but seems to take forever to locate the Oppo 105 after I open it up. I know the jRiver has some fans, but I'm just trying to get my new Oppo configured to do all the things it can do, and am trying to go the cheap route.

I know the foobar player has an excellent rep, but I cannot seem to find m/any people using it with the UPnP plugin and a BDP. I know lots of you are using your 105s to do this, so hopefully you can help.

Thanks in advance.
post #3471 of 10139
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Originally Posted by tme110 View Post

Can't you just push pause then? Or stop. There's on the component itself and would be the same as hitting mute.

Sure, that would work. But I don't like touch sensitive buttons. And they're small. Sometimes it takes me 2-3 tries to get it to pause/stop (maybe I have fat fingers). Nothing beats knobs!
post #3472 of 10139
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Originally Posted by bgunn View Post

What freeware DMR Digital Media Renderers (DMRs) are you using to stream to your Oppo? I've tried to using foobar2000 with the UPnP Controller plug-in, but it seems real buggy. It sounds great when it's working, but seems to take forever to locate the Oppo 105 after I open it up. I know the jRiver has some fans, but I'm just trying to get my new Oppo configured to do all the things it can do, and am trying to go the cheap route.

I know the foobar player has an excellent rep, but I cannot seem to find m/any people using it with the UPnP plugin and a BDP. I know lots of you are using your 105s to do this, so hopefully you can help.

Thanks in advance.

I don't have any issues with Foobar. It's more like a small applet that doesn't take up computer resources. I set it to use the Oppo as a sound card when playing music through it. The rest of my Windows system uses the digital coaxial output since the USB input can't do DD when watching TV/Movies on the computer. Never had a problem.
post #3473 of 10139
+1 never had a problem w/ foobar either. Just wish I could find a iPhone DMC that worked. I've used about 10 now and sadly I paid for the last 4 which were immediately useless.
post #3474 of 10139
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Originally Posted by bgunn View Post

What freeware DMR Digital Media Renderers (DMRs) are you using to stream to your Oppo? I've tried to using foobar2000 with the UPnP Controller plug-in, but it seems real buggy. It sounds great when it's working, but seems to take forever to locate the Oppo 105 after I open it up. I know the jRiver has some fans, but I'm just trying to get my new Oppo configured to do all the things it can do, and am trying to go the cheap route.

You can download jRiver for a free trial run.

post #3475 of 10139
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Subjective evaluation of bass is fraught with difficulty unless you are really REALLY sure about the bass response of your speakers/subs as coupled in your listening room. For example, if a given piece of equipment has additional extension of bass into lower frequencies it may reveal nulls and resonances you never knew you had before -- not to mention low levels of rattle and buzz. For mid-high to high bass you may hear aspects of your crossover network that you never knew were there. To reverse this, an analytic approach to bass may not tell the whole story of how a bass setup will work in YOUR room with your gear.

Reviews are useful, and should not be dismissed out of hand, but there's no substitute for trying it yourself in your room with your gear. All that really matters is whether there is an audible improvement in your room.
--Bob

"Reviews are useful, and should not be dismissed out of hand, but there's no substitute for trying it yourself in your room with your gear. All that really matters is whether there is an audible improvement in your room."

Thanks again for emphasizing this, Bob. Remember those of you listening to reproduced music that what you like in your listening environment is what counts. Yes, reviews can be useful but....

Every room responds to bass reproduction differently. Some people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get their room to reproduce bass without peaks and valleys. And then it doesn't always work but when it does look out. You will find that you don't know the bass is there until it is as you don't get a constant feeling of bass which too often is the case. Was in Fry's over the weekend and a group of people were drawn to a system in which the bass was overwhelming but they were enjoying it since it was BASS.

In our room we found the bass response to go slightly lower with the 105 compared to the 95. It does not exaggerate the bass. In fact we find the bass well defined and of a piece with the rest of the frequency spectrum. And, no, we haven't spent money on room treatment but have very carefully placed the speakers and the sub to reduce peaks and know within a few Hz where to expect them and, therefore, tune them out to some extent.

In brief, we are enjoying the 105 more and more as the hours of musical enjoyment pile on (and movies as well). Direct connection to ours amps have been the icing on the cake.

Under "more rain promised tomorrow" Seattle skies, Gill
post #3476 of 10139
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Originally Posted by PugetsoundHD View Post


"Reviews are useful, and should not be dismissed out of hand, but there's no substitute for trying it yourself in your room with your gear. All that really matters is whether there is an audible improvement in your room."


Under "more rain promised tomorrow" Seattle skies, Gill

 

"All that really matters is whether there is an audible improvement in your room."

 

Agreed 100%, 

 

"Under "more rain promised tomorrow" Seattle skies, Gill" 

 

Isn't that why Washington passed Initiative 502  :)

post #3477 of 10139
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Oppo BDP-105 Audiophile Universal Blu-ray Player - Audioholics - Gene DellaSala - February 3, 2013

That's a great review, and it's great to see a reviewer who actually knows how to measure equipment.
post #3478 of 10139
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Originally Posted by tOMZY View Post

Thanks, David! Looks like BDP-105 is going to serve me well in even more ways than I expected smile.gif That also includes getting rid of Beresford Caiman DAC.
Tom, 105 could even save you even more going straight to power amp - you can replace your integrated amp with a power amp to get higher SQ or save some $$
post #3479 of 10139
1 month I use OPPO bdp - 105, satisfied practically all, but there are problems with play of cd... It occurs at play cd, but not constantly and from time to time. And that cd can play one properly and can with defect. Here such example: comes to an end track 8, begins track 9 (9 - number track original cd), but on graphic display OPPO number track - 8, the song is played, after the termination track - on graphic display OPPO track 9 - generates already properly, but it is repeatedly same track that just play. Did begin intently to watch after reproducing of cd, paid attention that the countertimer of track on the informative screen of OPPO periodically(1 time in 5-6 minutes) decides on 6-7 seconds, the real time of track is after shown?! For example time of track decides on 1: 31: 06, in 7 seconds an informative screen shows 1: 31: 13 and further all is represented correctly. Reproducing of music here is not interrupted, time is stopped only on the informative screen...
Sorry for "difficulties of translation", anybody had similar problems with bdp - 105?
post #3480 of 10139
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Originally Posted by bgunn View Post

What freeware DMR Digital Media Renderers (DMRs) are you using to stream to your Oppo? I've tried to using foobar2000 with the UPnP Controller plug-in, but it seems real buggy. It sounds great when it's working, but seems to take forever to locate the Oppo 105 after I open it up. I know the jRiver has some fans, but I'm just trying to get my new Oppo configured to do all the things it can do, and am trying to go the cheap route.

I know the foobar player has an excellent rep, but I cannot seem to find m/any people using it with the UPnP plugin and a BDP. I know lots of you are using your 105s to do this, so hopefully you can help.

Thanks in advance.

Even when it is not free, I am using 8MediaPlayer in my iPad to render with the Oppo. The music library is accesed by 8MediaPlayer from a DLNA server (I have used Mezzmo, ReadyDLNA and MediaMonkey as DLNA server with good results) and the in 8MediaPlayer I pick the Oppo 105 as renderer.

Regards
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