Official OPPO BDP-105 Owner's Thread - Page 128

 Correct, no cable or over the air TV period!

 

Movies on Blu Ray and Music that's all :)

Thanks Chris. I assumed the Oppo used some kind of amplifier to send an analogue signal to my non-digital preamp and that that Oppo analog amp would be subject to signal-to-noise measurements. Hence if the Oppo amp was over-driven there could be a negative result. I also may have misunderstood how the volume control works. Is the volume out to the analog outputs set at 100 (the loudest) and then the volume control actually used to lower the volume?

Yes, the Analog audio output Volume control on the OPPO attenuates from the "normal", full volume, reference level. The range is 0-100, where 0 is implemented as Mute. Volume 100 is typically what is used when connecting to the Analog inputs of a pre-amp. On the 105, each step below 100 is equivalent to -0.5dB attenuation. Setting Volume to Fixed is equivalent to setting Volume 100, and bypasses/disables the Volume adjustment (although Mute still works).

When connecting directly to a power amp, or when using the separate Volume control for the Headphone output jack, the "best" level will depend on the sensitivity of the power amp or headphones.

Reducing Volume may also be necessary when connecting to a pre-amp if the pre-amp's input does not have the headroom to handle the loudest volume passages without clipping. But typically this isn't going to happen unless you use positive valued volume trims for the individual speaker output volume adjustments in the OPPO.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 2/22/13 at 8:32am

Same here. Dropped the Cable years ago and have never looked back!

(Also WSE , love your B&W icon. Been thinking about updating my Nautilus 801s (c. 1999) with Diamonds)

Got my 105 and did some listening and watching last evening.
My setup is a bit different than many here: Running all analog outs, both Stereo and MCH to separate channels on Lexicon MC-12B, from there through Lexicon LX7 Amp to B&Ws (Nautilus 801s for mains, various models for the center, surrounds and rears)

I am quite happy so far, though I found the MCH levels to be quite a bit higher than my old Pioneer 59 AVI SACD player. That affected the listening at first. Once I backed down the volume levels, SACDs especially sounded great. More critical listening to come.

One minor glitch: Although I've set Auto Play Mode for CD and SACD to OFF, sometimes when I switch disks it still autoplays. This _seems_ to occur when switching from a CD to SACD or vice versa. One CD after another doesnt do this..
Will try to isolate the behavior down better. Was switching a lot of disks and Lex channels last evening, and not being very systematic.

Thanks Bob. Last thought on S/N: When I look at the Oppo spec on analog output, the signal to noise measurement is taken at 100?

^ I don't have any info on specs beyond the published values. If it really concerns you, you'll need to ask OPPO Tech Support and see if they have more info they can release.
--Bob

Any advice much appreciated:

How to batch-process (convert) an Apple lossless (ALAC) iTunes library to a FLAC data base of music on an external hard drive?

As I understand it, ALAC is not compatible with the OPPO 105.

Since ALAC is now open source and royalty free, any idea why OPPO didn't make the 105 ALAC-friendly? Any thinking that they may do so, in a future firmware update?

In the meantime, my goal is to convert about 3,000 ALAC songs to FLAC or other lossless format, preserve the album cover art and track # / song lists, burn all these new FLAC files to an external hard drive, plug that drive directly in to the OPPO 105 via a USB, and be able to search / navigate through this music library via a plasma TV hooked up to the HDMI 1 out of the OPPO.

I would output the audio via the 2 channel audio analog RCA ports on the OPPO 105.

My goal is to have a lossless, audiophile-grade version of my current iTunes library, but in a format the OPPO can access ad navigate.

Since my OPPO is part of a HT system, I'm happy to have the big plasma TV be the screen that I use for visual search and navigation of this new music data base. I know it won't have the "iTune's app look to it - that's OK - BUT, WILL IT WORK AT ALL? In anyone doing this now, and how is it working for you?

Last - I see that some forum members are incorporating a Mac Mini in to their system - I'm not sure I understand the benefit of this, unless it's for video storage or audio formats other than ALAC that OPPO does support/

Thanks in advance for any input.

J River Media Center can do this with pretty minimal effort and even has a free 30 day trial. It also works very nicely with the Oppo's DMR functionality.
Correct.
We can only guess here. Perhaps the timing wasn't right, perhaps Mediatek wasn't supportive. You could try asking Oppo directly.
Anything is possible, but it's probably a safe bet to assume not and be really happy if it shows up at some point.

In case anyone else is following this development.

A brief test of tonights build revealed that whilst XBMC is not capable of initiating a DMC push connection from cold (after oppo is initially swtched on) , if you initiate the connection with another DMC, i.e skifta (DMC app for ios and android) you can then use XBMC's play using menu to successfully push media files to the oppo. Tested successfully with MKV files.

This is an issue with the development build of XBMC and not the oppo.
Edited by lesliew - 2/23/13 at 12:11pm

Just downloaded "Cure" by Keith Jarrett from I tunes. Connected MacBook Pro Version 10.14.11 to DAC with USB cable. it sound great but I hear random clicks. Sounds like scratch/dusty vinyl record. any comment? thank you.

I've had the 105 for a few weeks. It's an incredible machine. I upgraded from the BDP-83SE Nuforce Edition. What an engaging, transparent and deep sound stage it produces. I'm often inclined to close my eyes while listening, feeling myself in the space where the performance was recorded. This unit is a gem.

I'm looking for a way to display files without having to engage my big flat screen. Can I hook up a small (perhaps 7") screen to one of the HDMI ports on the Oppo? Any suggestions for an inexpensive monitor?

This sounds like another language to me. I guess I am technologically challenged when it comes to this stuff.

Woof07,

I bought an inexpensive Westinghouse 22" 1080p tv to use as a secondary monitor (purchased at the local big box store for about $150). I used a cheap Monoprice splitter to split the HDMI1 out (one leg to the Westinghouse TV, the other to a projector). TV power is plugged into a switched outlet on the receiver (small LED HDTVs don't draw much power) and is set up to be active only when I'm on the receiver's CD 2-channel analog input. I run HDMI2 from the Oppo to a different HDMI input on the receiver and select that input when watching movies through the projector. The setup works quite well - I've had no HDMI issues and with a little careful programming of the remote the user experience is seamless.

Cheers,

Mike

If you're doing the conversion on a Mac, then xACT is free and works well:

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14246/xact

My goal is to have a lossless, audiophile-grade version of my current iTunes library, but in a format the OPPO can access ad navigate.[/quote]
Jriver server via DLNA to push music files to 105 satisfies your goal.

[/Quote]Since my OPPO is part of a HT system, I'm happy to have the big plasma TV be the screen that I use for visual search and navigation of this new music data base. I know it won't have the "iTune's app look to it - that's OK - BUT, WILL IT WORK AT ALL? In anyone doing this now, and how is it working for you?
[/Quote] Use my iPad instead having to turn on my big Kuro plasma and heat up the room.


Thanks in advance for any input.[/quote]
Edited by wadeh911 - 2/23/13 at 8:08am

Can i get 2.1 analog out of the 105? Is there analog bass management for stereo? I want to run stereo speakers and a sub only, but want to take full advantage of the Oppo DAC and not convert back to digital for bass management downstream.... help?

Hello all,
This is driving me nuts! Has anyone been successful in installing OPPO's USB driver(Bdp105) on a windows 8 machine. I've tried installing in compatibility mode to earlier versions of windows to no avail. Any suggestions? I noticed the the no usb driver support disclaimer for windows 8 on oppos website... But Really? Thanks for the help.

Yes.  Set Downmix to Stereo and set the L/R speakers to Small.

The 105 is 2.1 capable.

A recommended setup : Amp powered by a dedicated 20 amp outlet. The Oppo on another circuit.
Use XLR or RCA balanced outs between the Oppo and your Amp
Set speaker to small (Keep trim to 0 if you can balance this with your sub)
Sub on
Down mix to Stereo
Set crossover
Stereo Signal (set to Down-mixed stereo)
Again, balance your sub to blend with speaker trim settings)

Good luck - It'll sound great!

-Brian
Edited by BrianJB7 - 2/23/13 at 11:59am

Unfortunately there is no Win8 driver yet. I have asked Oppo about this and this is the response I got:

We are still awaiting for a new driver from XMOS, the designers of the USB DAC in the player, but they have not yet delivered a driver which we can release to the public.

We do not know when this driver will be released because originally it was supposed to be delivered to us around Thanksgiving, the same time the player was released, but they continue to push back the driver.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.

I tried hooking up a 17" Dell monitor to the Oppo's 2nd HDMI output (using HDMI to DVI cable) and it didn't work. I think the resolution of the 17" monitor isn't high enough to work with the Oppo, so I doubt a 7" monitor would work. I then hooked up a 21.5" Acer monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution and it worked perfect (still using the HDMI to DVI cable).

Thanks very much for your advice.

The Jriver iPad app for song search and navigation is very appealing, compared to sitting in front of a 50" plasma TV that is always on, even just for finding music.

In the set-up you have, it sounds like you're sending music files from your computer in to the OPPO 105 via ethernet. Is that right?

In my case, I want to put all the FLAC song files on a hard drive and plug that drive directly into the OPPO 105 - no computer in the set-up.

Will this still work with the iPad Jriver app you describe?

Many thanks

I'm new to AVS and want to thank all of the AVS members on this thread that have, through their reviews, comments, answers and general discussion helped me decide on purchasing the 105. I've missed Oppo in my system ever since I sold my 83SE, prior to the 95's release. So it has been some time. The player gets here on Tuesday.

Please correct me if I am wrong: My understanding is that when using the headphone output, all other outputs are 'shut off.' My question is: If one is not using the headphone output, are all outputs on (which I believe is the case)? If so, is there any way to turn off the unused outputs?

Thanks for the info. I guess I have to be patient. I'll use the coax input for now though I am limited to 24/92. I have a few 24/192 music files Maybe I can stream them via HDMI WASAPI. The HDMI option from PC to Oppo hdmi in didn't look like a slam dunk at first glance. I bought this unit predominantly as a DAC for my music files, Blu-ray is a welcomed bonus. I'm a tad bit disappointed.

Silly question, but did you try the rez setting on the Oppo for the Dell?

First of all, welcome to AVS and to this Thread!

When you plug in the Headphone jack, all other audio outputs are muted.

When the Headphones are not plugged in, all audio outputs are normally live, simultaneously. Generally speaking, there is no need to turn off the audio outputs you are not using. If they are not cabled, there's no harm in leaving them active. If they are cabled, then simply select a different input on whatever they are cabled into.

You CAN turn off HDMI digital audio output separately (set HDMI Audio OFF). You can not turn off the Optical/Coax S/PDIF digital outputs separately, nor the Analog outputs.
--Bob

The resolution was set to "Auto". I didn't try setting the resolution manually.

The next build of XBMC (13) should allow you to play media files not only locally but will have the ability to push the media file to a compatible uPnP enabled device.

Imagine that you could use XBMC running on your iOS or android device to select a media file and play. Instead of it playing on your portable device it immediately plays the media file on your Oppo with full transport controls. Allows your portable device running XBMC to become a very sophisticated networked remote or Digital Media Controller (DMC)

I have been following this development and was reporting on progress as it applied to the Oppo.

A few new acronym's that you will increasing see banded about

DMR - Digital Media Renderer (Oppo)
DMS - Digital Media Server (Twonky Media / Plex Server)
DMC - Digital Media Controller (XBMC, skifta)

brevity is indeed a virtue we all can aspire to but admittedly can sometimes be unhelpful

^ Thanks for keeping us updated on that! Do they have a proposed date yet for this next version of XBMC to get out of Beta?
--Bob