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post #3991 of 10257
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Originally Posted by mcheek View Post

Sorry for the dupe post!!! I forgot to include the quoted post that I'm replying to.

Well, mainly because of a post i read awhile back in Audioholics by a poster with the user name Soundhound

I have dual subwoofers,

My setup has been cleared with the speaker manufacturer (indeed it is one of their recommended configurations).

L, R, center, sub, and surround RCA out of Oppo and into multichannel preamp.

L and R RCA out of preamp, Y'd.

One Y'd L and R RCA pair to power amp.

Other Y'd L and R RCA pair to subwoofers.

L and R power amp output through speaker cables to L and R front speakers.

LFE out of preamp, Y'd to subwoofers.

The L and R front speakers get full-range from the power amp.

The subs get L and R full-range, and LFE, from the preamp.

This arrangement avoids running the L and R to the subwoofers through two power amps (the subwoofers have their own power amps). This arrangement also keeps stereo and LFE completely separate.

Your mileage may vary, but this has worked really well for me.
post #3992 of 10257
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Originally Posted by fotonomad View PostAm I the only one who wants a lossless version of their entire iTunes library, converted to a Codec that the Oppo 105 can read, that the Oppo will access via a directly connected USB hard drive, with some decent and simple navigation / search features on the TV?

I don't want to have an active computer in the signal path, and I don't want to stream the songs wirelessly, nor can I have an ethernet hard-wire connection - just USB hard drive directly in to Oppo 105.

 I also want Oppo to be more Apple friendly

post #3993 of 10257
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

I have dual subwoofers,

My setup has been cleared with the speaker manufacturer (indeed it is one of their recommended configurations).

L, R, center, sub, and surround RCA out of Oppo and into multichannel preamp.

L and R RCA out of preamp, Y'd.

One Y'd L and R RCA pair to power amp.

Other Y'd L and R RCA pair to subwoofers.

L and R power amp output through speaker cables to L and R front speakers.

LFE out of preamp, Y'd to subwoofers.

The L and R front speakers get full-range from the power amp.

The subs get L and R full-range, and LFE, from the preamp.

This arrangement avoids running the L and R to the subwoofers through two power amps (the subwoofers have their own power amps). This arrangement also keeps stereo and LFE completely separate.

Your mileage may vary, but this has worked really well for me.


Well, Jim, I was planning on using the Oppo as my preamp, connecting directly to my meridian multi-channel
power amp. This would also avoid running the L and R to the subwoofers through two power amps.
post #3994 of 10257
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Originally Posted by RouslanB View Post

In my case I have Oppo hooked up directly to a TV via HDMI (no sound) and I don't see fq information. I am streaming from PC or playing via SMB - no fq info.
Maybe I am missing something - could be a great feature for Oppo to add
From Oppo technical support:

At this time we do not display any bit rate or frequency information when playing back user generated media. We are looking into possibly adding this feature through a future firmware release.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
post #3995 of 10257
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Originally Posted by Deanhorn View Post

Thanks eusoro - the links now work for me.

But, after going through all of this, I got some file error at the end and it did not install. I am going to wait for Oppo to put it on their support website. Hopefully at that time, you will not need a PHD in PC's to install it.

Seems like trying to use PC's for music is getting more complicated instead of user friendly. Thank goodness I still have my Logitech Squeezebox Touch to get my music off the computer. This device is a model for all manufacturers to follow. It is so user friendly and I have not had a problem with it. Sorry for the rant, but I am a little frustrated at this point.


Sorry to hear that. For what its worth where in the process are you having the issue?
post #3996 of 10257
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Originally Posted by mcheek View Post

Well, Jim, I was planning on using the Oppo as my preamp, connecting directly to my meridian multi-channel
power amp. This would also avoid running the L and R to the subwoofers through two power amps.

The same setup will work. Just remove preamp from the description I gave.
post #3997 of 10257
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Originally Posted by mcheek View Post

Well, Jim, I was planning on using the Oppo as my preamp, connecting directly to my meridian multi-channel
power amp. This would also avoid running the L and R to the subwoofers through two power amps.
The biggest problem with your proposed setup is that you'll completely lose LFE content as there's no way to redirect the .1 content to your other speakers.
post #3998 of 10257
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

The biggest problem with your proposed setup is that you'll completely lose LFE content as there's no way to redirect the .1 content to your other speakers.

Um, no.

The LFE is connected to the subwoofers.

The full-range L and R is connected to the L and R front full-range speakers, and to the subwoofers.

The full-range center and surrounds are connected to the full-range center speaker and full-range surround speakers, respectively.

Why do you say I will lose LFE content when there is a direct LFE connection from the preamp to the subwoofers' LFE inputs?
post #3999 of 10257
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

You're probably not the only one but I'm not one of them. I don't care about Apple or Microsoft. I don't want my data, be it a spreadsheet or digitized AV information held hostage by some proprietary format. Apple could have easily chosen FLAC over using (what once was their proprietary) ALAC a long time ago. Apple "opened" up ALAC because they were losing that war - no other reason, they would have rather kept it locked or they wouldn't have used it in the first place.

Indeed. It is a walled garden. The AOL of the 21st century. I keep hoping people will wake up and realize there are open-source formats, open-source platforms, etc.
post #4000 of 10257
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

I have dual subwoofers,

My setup has been cleared with the speaker manufacturer (indeed it is one of their recommended configurations).

L, R, center, sub, and surround RCA out of Oppo and into multichannel preamp.

L and R RCA out of preamp, Y'd.

One Y'd L and R RCA pair to power amp.

Other Y'd L and R RCA pair to subwoofers.

L and R power amp output through speaker cables to L and R front speakers.

LFE out of preamp, Y'd to subwoofers.

The L and R front speakers get full-range from the power amp.

The subs get L and R full-range, and LFE, from the preamp.

This arrangement avoids running the L and R to the subwoofers through two power amps (the subwoofers have their own power amps). This arrangement also keeps stereo and LFE completely separate.

Your mileage may vary, but this has worked really well for me.

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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

The biggest problem with your proposed setup is that you'll completely lose LFE content as there's no way to redirect the .1 content to your other speakers.

It depends on your subwoofer.
The method above Y'ed the LFE to both subwoofers which works for subs like my Velodyne and Grotto which accept L, R, and LFE and mix, stir, and shake. smile.gif

- Rich
post #4001 of 10257
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

Um, no.

The LFE is connected to the subwoofers.

The full-range L and R is connected to the L and R front full-range speakers, and to the subwoofers.

The full-range center and surrounds are connected to the full-range center speaker and full-range surround speakers, respectively.

Why do you say I will lose LFE content when there is a direct LFE connection from the preamp to the subwoofers' LFE inputs?

Jim, I was responding to mcheek's proposed configuration, not yours which is why I quoted his post wink.gif. His proposed configuration doesn't use the Oppo SW output at all, which will result in the LFE signal being completely discarded. I haven't seen anything in his follow-up messages to suggest that he's changed his mind about this.
post #4002 of 10257
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post


It depends on your subwoofer.
The method above Y'ed the LFE to both subwoofers which works for subs like my Velodyne and Grotto which accept L, R, and LFE and mix, stir, and shake. smile.gif

- Rich
Yes, Jim's configuration doesn't discard the LFE, but I thought I quoted mcheek smile.gif. I'm pretty sure that Jim, you, and i more or less agree...
post #4003 of 10257
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Yes, Jim's configuration doesn't discard the LFE, but I thought I quoted mcheek smile.gif. I'm pretty sure that Jim, you, and i more or less agree...

Sorry, I missed that.
Are you going to give that a go?

- Rich
post #4004 of 10257

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post #4005 of 10257
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Sorry, I missed that.
Are you going to give that a go?

- Rich
Nope, I'm happy with my configuration as it is.
post #4006 of 10257
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Jim, I was responding to mcheek's proposed configuration, not yours which is why I quoted his post wink.gif. His proposed configuration doesn't use the Oppo SW output at all, which will result in the LFE signal being completely discarded. I haven't seen anything in his follow-up messages to suggest that he's changed his mind about this.

Oh, duh. Sorry!
post #4007 of 10257
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

Thinking about a adding a pair of BeyerDynamic DT 990's to be driven by the Oppo 105 headphone amp.
But which version? They come in 32, 250 and 600 ohm.
The 600 ohm version is apparently more suited to high end gear but can the Oppo drive it adequately or would it best to get the 250 ohm version?

Any clues?

Thanks,

Chris

What are the sensitivities of the headphones. A sensitive phone with high impedance can be as easy to drive as a low-sensitivity phone with low impedance.
post #4008 of 10257
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

The same setup will work. Just remove preamp from the description I gave.

So basically substituting Oppo for preamp, I would run 3 y splitters out of the Oppo: 1 from the L dedicated stereo out and run it to the L input on the power amp and L input on left subwoofer; 1 from the R dedicated stereo out and run it to the R input on the power amp and R input on right subwoofer: and 1 from the SW out to the LFE input of both subs. Is that correct? Since none of my speakers are truly full range, would the settings in the Oppo be: all speakers to small, sub on, and crossover appropriate to my speakers? Thanks for your help BTW; this bass management stuff is really confusing to me. confused.gif
post #4009 of 10257
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

The biggest problem with your proposed setup is that you'll completely lose LFE content as there's no way to redirect the .1 content to your other speakers.


If the FL/FR speakers are set to large and the SW is set to off and the Stereo Signal is set to Front Left/Right then the .1 LFE information is sent to the FL and FR speakers. Here is a link to a test file: http://www.jensign.com/bdp95/7dot1voiced/

Using the test file you can also verify that the LFE info is not presented to the FL/FR if you set the Stereo Signal to Down-mixed Stereo.
post #4010 of 10257
I am using my 105 only for audio, and I don’t have a video screen in the vicinity to connect and look at. Yesterday, when I attempted to play a CD, “Netflix” appeared on the 105’s screen; and the CD would not play. I tried a few buttons, but had no luck. This happened twice. Finally, I turned the 105 off, and then back on. That fixed the problem, but I’m wondering how to prevent it from happening again. If it does, I can move the player to my TV temporarily, to see what’s happening (visually), but that’s going to be a major pain in the neck.

Thanks very much!
John
post #4011 of 10257
I am wondering if anyone has used the 105 to do the D/A conversion from their cable box to their amplifier. And if that improved the sound significantly.

Thanks very much!
John
post #4012 of 10257

Oppo will release a new software update in the next two weeks with new features can't wait :)

 

If I could plug in my iPad or iPod classic to use the Oppo DACs then I will consider seriously upgrading to the BDP-105 until then I will keep my BDP-95

post #4013 of 10257
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Originally Posted by jfz View Post

I am using my 105 only for audio, and I don’t have a video screen in the vicinity to connect and look at. Yesterday, when I attempted to play a CD, “Netflix” appeared on the 105’s screen; and the CD would not play. I tried a few buttons, but had no luck. This happened twice. Finally, I turned the 105 off, and then back on. That fixed the problem, but I’m wondering how to prevent it from happening again. If it does, I can move the player to my TV temporarily, to see what’s happening (visually), but that’s going to be a major pain in the neck.

Thanks very much!
John

Hi John, if you insert a disc with default settings, it should play automatically--as long as you don't hit a direction button and enter in sequence. As a fail safe, pressing "Home" on the remote, followed by "enter" ( after a couple seconds wait) will always play the disc in the tray.
post #4014 of 10257
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Oppo will release a new software update in the next two weeks with new features can't wait smile.gif

If I could plug in my iPad or iPod classic to use the Oppo DACs then I will consider seriously upgrading to the BDP-105 until then I will keep my BDP-95
Looking at what you are asking for the 95 in your signature, you might be hangin on to it for a long, long time. $950 (USD) is only 5% less than the asking price new. eek.gif Just sayin......

Are you sure you really wanna sell that player?!!!
Edited by Torqdog - 3/4/13 at 5:38pm
post #4015 of 10257
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post Looking at what you are asking for the 95 in your signature, you might be hangin on to it for a long, long time. $950 (USD) is only 5% less than the asking price new. eek.gifJust sayin...... Are you sure you really wanna sell that player?!!!

 

Good point dropped the price now $699

post #4016 of 10257
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Oppo will release a new software update in the next two weeks with new features can't wait smile.gif

If I could plug in my iPad or iPod classic to use the Oppo DACs then I will consider seriously upgrading to the BDP-105 until then I will keep my BDP-95

You can plug in your iPad using the optional USB camera kit, however that doesn't work for iPods.
post #4017 of 10257
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Originally Posted by mcheek View Post

So basically substituting Oppo for preamp, I would run 3 y splitters out of the Oppo: 1 from the L dedicated stereo out and run it to the L input on the power amp and L input on left subwoofer; 1 from the R dedicated stereo out and run it to the R input on the power amp and R input on right subwoofer: and 1 from the SW out to the LFE input of both subs. Is that correct? Since none of my speakers are truly full range, would the settings in the Oppo be: all speakers to small, sub on, and crossover appropriate to my speakers? Thanks for your help BTW; this bass management stuff is really confusing to me. confused.gif

Oh. I didn't realize your speakers are not full-range. For some reason I thought they were.
post #4018 of 10257
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Oppo will release a new software update in the next two weeks with new features can't wait smile.gif

If I could plug in my iPad or iPod classic to use the Oppo DACs then I will consider seriously upgrading to the BDP-105 until then I will keep my BDP-95

Probably not going to happen. With the limits and issues associated with using idevices it just makes more sense to connect your hard drive with the same music to the OPPO.

Apple requires a special chip and licensing in order to pull digital music off the ipod, which is why you don't see it too much. I think it makes sense for companies to just stay away from it since the connector changes every few years.

But there's no point in having this feature on a component anyway when you can just buy something like the iPure doc and get the digital signal from that - or just use a hard drive. Or DLNA or....
post #4019 of 10257
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Originally Posted by tme110 View Post

Probably not going to happen. With the limits and issues associated with using idevices it just makes more sense to connect your hard drive with the same music to the OPPO.

Apple requires a special chip and licensing in order to pull digital music off the ipod, which is why you don't see it too much. I think it makes sense for companies to just stay away from it since the connector changes every few years.

But there's no point in having this feature on a component anyway when you can just buy something like the iPure doc and get the digital signal from that - or just use a hard drive. Or DLNA or....

I assume using a Wadia iTransport into the 105's coaxial digital input would do the trick. The Wadia gets at the music in its digital form, bypassing the iPod's internal DAC and analog stage.
post #4020 of 10257
Hi folks,
I'm currently using Split A/V with my HDMI outputs, video going direct to my Viera VT50 TV and audio going to my Pioneer Elite VSX-94TX receiver. Yesterday I tried playing some MP3s off an SD card through the front USB port. I was pleased to see the unit instantly recognized the card and displayed a list of songs on my TV. I then toggled my receiver to multichannel analog input, and received the audio output at my front speakers, but lost the video display. I read earlier on this thread that you need 2 HDMI handshakes to enable the Split A/V function, therefore when I set my receiver to multichannel input it must disable the HDMI audio output, which therefore kills the HDMI video output as well.

Two questions: a) Is my logic correct? and b) how do I get video display along with multichannel output? If the answer to b is to tell the OPPO to toggle to the dual HDMI output, then question c) is: are there discrete remote commands for Split A/V and Dual HDMI? I want the ability to program such a switch into my remote, so I can switch between HDMI and multichannel on the fly, retaining video output for each. I don't want to crawl into the setup screen to have to toggle between the two HDMI setups.

I know I should be listening to multichannel for all sources, but I think my system might need some tweaks to optimize the multichannel path. As of now, the HDMI output of my MP3s sounds pretty punchy with a good amount of bass response (my front speakers are Def Tech towers set to Large and they include built-in subs). When I switch to multichannel, I gain a lot of clarity, but lose much of the bass and the voices are very sibilant. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Paul
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