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post #4021 of 5975
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Originally Posted by jfz View Post

I am wondering if anyone has used the 105 to do the D/A conversion from their cable box to their amplifier. And if that improved the sound significantly.



Thanks very much!
John

I have a TiVo connected directly to the 105 by HDMI. The SQ is at least as good as it was through a $2,500 Marantz AV8003 pre/pro. It seems to me there is greater channel separation and more activity in the surrounds of my 5.1 system with the 105.
post #4022 of 5975
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Originally Posted by elphillips View Post

I have a TiVo connected directly to the 105 by HDMI. The SQ is at least as good as it was through a $2,500 Marantz AV8003 pre/pro. It seems to me there is greater channel separation and more activity in the surrounds of my 5.1 system with the 105.
My amp is an Outlaw 7500, 200 watts per channel, and the speakers are Monitor Audio Gold Series, plus a Velodyne sub.
post #4023 of 5975
Considering a BDP-105 to use as a preamp to control my home theater system and for two-channel playback as well. I only have a few HDMI devices, which the Oppo should be able to accommodate. Does the Oppo properly handle the DirecTV HR34? I have read in a few places that certain channels like HBO and other protected content may not display, even if you have a valid subscription. Also, does the Oppo properly handle fast forward, rewind, commercial skip etc. Some players lose the audio after using these commands. Has anyone experienced loud pops or thumps when changing audio format or audio source.

It seems like too good of a deal if it can do everything it is reported to do at the price. It uses better DACs than just about any conventional preamp-processor available on the market. Most DACs using the SABRE chip, like the Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2, get rave reviews for two-channel performance when used as a digital preamp, so it would seem to me that the Oppo has the ability to do the same. However, if it has a lot of operational quirks, it may not be worth it. Therefore, before I buy I was hoping to get some opinions on whether it is operationally sound. So many units have dropouts, pops, etc.
post #4024 of 5975
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I assume using a Wadia iTransport into the 105's coaxial digital input would do the trick. The Wadia gets at the music in its digital form, bypassing the iPod's internal DAC and analog stage.


This is what I am doing, and to excellent effect with my i170. Sounds amazing!
post #4025 of 5975
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Originally Posted by SilverLitz View Post

I assume using a Wadia iTransport into the 105's coaxial digital input would do the trick. The Wadia gets at the music in its digital form, bypassing the iPod's internal DAC and analog stage.

Yep, just another but more expensive route that the Pure i20 doc. Should work very well.
post #4026 of 5975
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Originally Posted by eusoro View Post

Sorry to hear that. For what its worth where in the process are you having the issue?

I got thru the process of disabling the driver signature enforcement (number 7) and rebooted. Then, I downloaded the driver again and executed the set-up. At the end of the set-up, I got a disk file error (something like a 64 bit error). Puzzling??
post #4027 of 5975
Is there any owners here that have also had the bdp-83se? I am looking into buying a good player. I was wondering how the two compare in stereo playback? The 83se is more affordable for me but if the 105 is substantialy better sounding I can save up. Im not into 3D or streaming netflix and stuff, just want a solid, good sounding blu ray/cd player.

Also I will be dumping the signal into a onkyo tx-nr3009 that has a 192k/24 burr brown dac, and would like to know if anyone can comment on the difference in sound between that dac and the dac in the oppo?
post #4028 of 5975
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Originally Posted by SeekingNirvana View Post

Is there any owners here that have also had the bdp-83se? I am looking into buying a good player. I was wondering how the two compare in stereo playback? The 83se is more affordable for me but if the 105 is substantialy better sounding I can save up. Im not into 3D or streaming netflix and stuff, just want a solid, good sounding blu ray/cd player.

Also I will be dumping the signal into a onkyo tx-nr3009 that has a 192k/24 burr brown dac, and would like to know if anyone can comment on the difference in sound between that dac and the dac in the oppo?
It sounds like you would be better off looking at buying a used BDP95. If streaming, 3-D and Netflix are not important, then you would be throwing money away purchasing a 105 as most of the improvements involve it's hook-up options to outside sources. The audio differences between the 95 and 105 are slight.

I went from the 83SE to the 95 and there was a significant improvement in sound, especially the analog multi-channel outs. I can't comment on the Burr Brown dacs as I have not heard them.
post #4029 of 5975
That's exactly the type of answer I was looking for! Thanks for the reply.
post #4030 of 5975
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Originally Posted by SeekingNirvana View Post

That's exactly the type of answer I was looking for! Thanks for the reply.
If the 95 idea appeals to you, someone who frequents this forum has one listed in his signature at the bottom of any post he makes.
post #4031 of 5975
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Originally Posted by SeekingNirvana View Post

Also I will be dumping the signal into a onkyo tx-nr3009 that has a 192k/24 burr brown dac, and would like to know if anyone can comment on the difference in sound between that dac and the dac in the oppo?

Well, the DAC itself isn't the question. It's the complete implementation of the entire digital to analog process including the DAC. My guess is that with pristine source material you will be able to hear small differences. The Onkyo is a relatively high end receiver after all. But the Oppo doesn't have all the different functions of a receiver so it's likely to have a much bigger concentration of effort in it's analog output stage, thereby resulting in a better sound quality.

If you are planning to run the output of the Oppo into the Onkyo I really think you are wasting your money buying the 105. The 103 is really what you should be looking at. The only real benefits of the 105 are features that you won't likely use if you are running the Oppo input into the Onkyo.
post #4032 of 5975
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Originally Posted by RouslanB View Post

From Oppo technical support:

At this time we do not display any bit rate or frequency information when playing back user generated media. We are looking into possibly adding this feature through a future firmware release.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.

I noticed that HDCD plays considerably lower than regular CD which is an indicator that it is not actually playing in HDCD. I hope this is not the case but that's how we used to be able to tell if the HDCD was being played or not...volume difference.
post #4033 of 5975
I replaced Onkyo 805 ( also has burr brown dacs and torrodial transformer) with Audiolab M-DAC and later - with Oppo 105. Audio wise - Oppo 105 driving Emotiva XPA-2 sounds much better than Onkyo driving the same speakers or Onkyo driving Emotiva ower amp. Again - this is in my system to my ears - your mileage may vary :-)
post #4034 of 5975
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Originally Posted by jokerman1226 View Post

I noticed that HDCD plays considerably lower than regular CD which is an indicator that it is not actually playing in HDCD. I hope this is not the case but that's how we used to be able to tell if the HDCD was being played or not...volume difference.

I think you've confused yourself on this. With most HDCD discs, when HDCD Decoding is active the volume will be attenuated -6dB. This provides headroom for the the extra dynamic range inherent in the HDCD encoding. I.e., it is NORMAL for HDCD Decoding ON to play an HDCD disc -6dB quieter than what you get playing the same disc with HDCD Decoding OFF.
--Bob
post #4035 of 5975
I need suggestion on best setup for music ...using my new Oppo with a Onkyo 5.15 ...no surround set up for me yet.
1 HDMI with cable box the conduit for the Onkyo....Using Polks...LS50's
If anyone uses this set up can you tell me your best recommendations...sounds wonderful BUT maybe there is a setting I should be aware of...I used Bill McClains's general checklist....maybe a tweak that will optimize even more...
Not using Onkyo's Music Optimizer and love the Oppo ...I upgraded from an older TX8511 and a Phillips cd SACD changer now used elsewhere...listen mostly to UK, Prog and classic rock.Thanks
post #4036 of 5975
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I think you've confused yourself on this. With most HDCD discs, when HDCD Decoding is active the volume will be attenuated -6dB. This provides headroom for the the extra dynamic range inherent in the HDCD encoding. I.e., it is NORMAL for HDCD Decoding ON to play an HDCD disc -6dB quieter than what you get playing the same disc with HDCD Decoding OFF.
--Bob

Thank you so much for putting that confusion on my part to rest. I got it reversed apparently, and I'm glad I'm wrong!
post #4037 of 5975
so....only to listen to music in 2 channel...oppo 103 or the old oppo 95?

thanks for reply....
post #4038 of 5975
Is there different input settings on any of the oppo's? For example if I had a optical cable going to CD" in" on my avr, and a HDMI cable going to BD "in"....can I switch between them? In other words could I use HDMI for blu rays, and optical for CD's?
post #4039 of 5975
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Originally Posted by angelo View Post

so....only to listen to music in 2 channel...oppo 103 or the old oppo 95?

thanks for reply....
It depends on how you plan to send the audio signal to your pre-pro. If it's by way of a digital connection such as HDMI, Optical or coaxial, then the 103 would suffice. If you plan to send the signal from the Oppo to the pre-pro by way of an analog (RCA) connection, then the 95 would be a better way to go and give you higher quality sound. There are other variables that enter the equation such as how good is your pre-pro but in a nutshell, that's it.

Good luck and good hunting.
post #4040 of 5975
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

It depends on how you plan to send the audio signal to your pre-pro. If it's by way of a digital connection such as HDMI, Optical or coaxial, then the 103 would suffice. If you plan to send the signal from the Oppo to the pre-pro by way of an analog (RCA) connection, then the 95 would be a better way to go and give you higher quality sound. There are other variables that enter the equation such as how good is your pre-pro but in a nutshell, that's it.

Good luck and good hunting.
I understand when people prefer to to have a pre-pro with room correction for multi-channel setup. But why would you need a pre-pro for a 2 Chanel setup when all your files are digital (on the media server)?
post #4041 of 5975
I am having a peculiar problem with my 105. If I haven't used it for a couple of days and load a disc, it will not detect the disc. If I unplug it briefly (seconds only) then it will detect the disc. If I use it again within a day there is no need to do this. I have a region-free mod but don't know if this has anything to do with it. Anyone else having a problem like this? I will probably contact Oppo about this.
post #4042 of 5975
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Originally Posted by SeekingNirvana View Post

Is there different input settings on any of the oppo's? For example if I had a optical cable going to CD" in" on my avr, and a HDMI cable going to BD "in"....can I switch between them? In other words could I use HDMI for blu rays, and optical for CD's?

For INPUTS there is an Input selector on the remote.

For OUTPUTS all outputs are always active.

-Bill
post #4043 of 5975
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

I am having a peculiar problem with my 105. If I haven't used it for a couple of days and load a disc, it will not detect the disc. If I unplug it briefly (seconds only) then it will detect the disc. If I use it again within a day there is no need to do this. I have a region-free mod but don't know if this has anything to do with it. Anyone else having a problem like this? I will probably contact Oppo about this.

Try clearing the persistent storage.
post #4044 of 5975
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

It sounds like you would be better off looking at buying a used BDP95. If streaming, 3-D and Netflix are not important, then you would be throwing money away purchasing a 105 as most of the improvements involve it's hook-up options to outside sources. The audio differences between the 95 and 105 are slight.

I went from the 83SE to the 95 and there was a significant improvement in sound, especially the analog multi-channel outs. I can't comment on the Burr Brown dacs as I have not heard them.

I thought the BDP95 was 3-D capable. I myself am considering going with the BDP95, used or new if you can get one new, as I don't care too much about streaming and Netflix but do want a 3-D capable player.
post #4045 of 5975
^
The 95 is 3D capable.
post #4046 of 5975
I think I'm wrong.....if I want to bypass my pre/pro's internal DAC, I would use RCA cable's right? From the out on the oppo to the in of the onkyo.
post #4047 of 5975
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Originally Posted by RouslanB View Post


I understand when people prefer to to have a pre-pro with room correction for multi-channel setup. But why would you need a pre-pro for a 2 Chanel setup when all your files are digital (on the media server)?

 

Of course, you don't but room correction is equally valid and useful in two channels. After all, the room's acoustics don't change with the number of channels.
post #4048 of 5975
I was playing SACDs on my 105. It stopped and resumed with some clicks. The song resumed from the start with the same tract. It happened twice. Is this a known issue?
post #4049 of 5975
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Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

I was playing SACDs on my 105. It stopped and resumed with some clicks. The song resumed from the start with the same tract. It happened twice. Is this a known issue?

Could be the disc needs cleaning or is damaged.
post #4050 of 5975
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Originally Posted by elphillips View Post

Could be the disc needs cleaning or is damaged.

nope!
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