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post #4321 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Ramatam View PostBob,

Thanks for the response. After posting, I began to try a process of elimination. But first to answer your question, I was running analog out via XLR to an Emotiva XSP Pre-amp. Yes, it was the first time to play this file on the 105, or anywhere for that matter.

I connected the external drive, used on the 105, to my laptop and played the culprit track....same thing...trashy "pink noise."
Next I found the original CD, dropped it into the tray and played the "track" on the 105 and it played flawlessly. Finally, I re-ripped the original CD via the same ripping software EAC (Exact audio Copy). This time it ripped it without a hitch.

So, I'm concluding that there is NO issue with the 105 but rather the problem lies within the ripping software. That's one hell of a bug if you ask me!

I plan to contact the company but I expect to get no reply. So for those of you out there using EAC ....beware....check your files at low volume first after ripping.

It only takes a couple of seconds when listening at "healthy" volume levels with hash noise to fry a driver (tweeter).

This is going to cost me a lot. If I have to return the speakers, airfreight alone, round trip, will be in the neighborhood of 600 bucks! I'm hoping that I can get them to send new drivers and I can install them. I've worked in the electronics industry as a solder monkey so I should have no problem there. I'm wondering if I did any damage to the mid drivers as well....ugh!

k

So sorry to hear about your misfortune, I can imagine how upset you are!! that's why I use itunes to rip my CDs it does a very good job for me!

 

At least the Oppo is not at fault!

post #4322 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Ramatam View Post

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I connected the external drive, used on the 105, to my laptop and played the culprit track....same thing...trashy "pink noise."
Next I found the original CD, dropped it into the tray and played the "track" on the 105 and it played flawlessly. Finally, I re-ripped the original CD via the same ripping software EAC (Exact audio Copy). This time it ripped it without a hitch.

Yikes,

I have ripped with EAC but now I just use DBPowerAmp.
I has many options and Accurip support.
It might be time for a change now that you know EAC is not exact wink.gif

I replaced my Revel Salon Tweeters when one of them was acting up.
I have a couple of EE friends that are good with Soldering irons.
We sacrificed a sheet cutting an opening to expose the surgical area only tongue.gif

Good luck with your repair.

- Rich
post #4323 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Ramatam View Post

It only takes a couple of seconds when listening at "healthy" volume levels with hash noise to fry a driver (tweeter).

This is going to cost me a lot. If I have to return the speakers, airfreight alone, round trip, will be in the neighborhood of 600 bucks! I'm hoping that I can get them to send new drivers and I can install them. I've worked in the electronics industry as a solder monkey so I should have no problem there. I'm wondering if I did any damage to the mid drivers as well....ugh!

k
OT:
Honestly, it shouldn't be that easy to cook a tweeter. I'd also be looking at the whole setup for weakness. Under-powered speakers are far more likely to lose a tweeter than over-powered speakers, but even then it should take some time. Tweeters usually cook from heat which has to build up over some period of time. A tweeter that cooks from a short burst of HF noise is fundamentally flawed, over powered or something else. You might also want to consider a crossover failure.
post #4324 of 5633
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View PostOT: Honestly, it shouldn't be that easy to cook a tweeter. I'd also be looking at the whole setup for weakness. Under-powered speakers are far more likely to lose a tweeter than over-powered speakers, but even then it should take some time. Tweeters usually cook from heat which has to build up over some period of time. A tweeter that cooks from a short burst of HF noise is fundamentally flawed, over powered or something else. You might also want to consider a crossover failure.

Since you are an Oppo betatester any thing good coming in terms of software?

post #4325 of 5633
^^^
The future is hazy.
post #4326 of 5633
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post^^^ The future is hazy.

ok!

post #4327 of 5633
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

OT:
Honestly, it shouldn't be that easy to cook a tweeter. I'd also be looking at the whole setup for weakness. Under-powered speakers are far more likely to lose a tweeter than over-powered speakers, but even then it should take some time. Tweeters usually cook from heat which has to build up over some period of time. A tweeter that cooks from a short burst of HF noise is fundamentally flawed, over powered or something else. You might also want to consider a crossover failure.

My AR3a speakers were real power hogs. It was real easy to drive an amp into clipping. Once the amp clipped, the tweeters were shot. I replaced the tweeters and midgange drivers a number of times in my AR3a speakers.
post #4328 of 5633
I am on the fence myself regarding upgrading my 95 to the 105. I like to use the 95 for balanced stereo into my D2v and a dealer(within reasonable distance) offered me $600 in trade for my 95 towards a 105. I am not sure how much more I can get on the used market, it's less than a year old and I have all the original packing/carton/etc.....
Decisions Decisions......smile.gif

Any feedback would be greatly welcome!
post #4329 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Cutler View Post

I am on the fence myself regarding upgrading my 95 to the 105. I like to use the 95 for balanced stereo into my D2v and a dealer(within reasonable distance) offered me $600 in trade for my 95 towards a 105. I am not sure how much more I can get on the used market, it's less than a year old and I have all the original packing/carton/etc.....
Decisions Decisions......smile.gif

Any feedback would be greatly welcome!

I'll buy it for 600$, right now! And your dealer can get you a discount....
post #4330 of 5633
I have a quick (and perhaps dumb) question. I'm considering purchasing a 105. This will be mated to an older processor w/o HDMI. However it's a pretty good one (B&K Ref. 30) and does have 5.1 analog DVD inputs along with regular 2 CH inputs. So if I hookup the Oppo 105's 5.1 analog outs to it, and the separate 2 CH outs to it, and set the downmix setting to 5.1, will it output regular CDs in straight L/R stereo, and multichannel DVDs in 5.1.? Assuming I switch the settings in the processor to accommodate the different "sources". OR does the 5.1 multichannel output on the Oppo override the 2 channel ?

Actually here's dumb question # 2... the other unit I'm considering is a factory sale Olive 3HD music server. Was leaning that way thinking I would rip my fairly large CD collection to it. But it certainly doesn't do anything close to what the 105 can do, and I could accomplish the same thing using a NAS or just running some music files off a PC. The DACs aren't close either. Any opinions on this or did I just answer this question myself !!! eek.gif

Thanks for any feedback
post #4331 of 5633
Unfortunately they won't discount the 105.....I asked lol
post #4332 of 5633
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Originally Posted by gripen08 View Post

I have a quick (and perhaps dumb) question. I'm considering purchasing a 105. This will be mated to an older processor w/o HDMI. However it's a pretty good one (B&K Ref. 30) and does have 5.1 analog DVD inputs along with regular 2 CH inputs. So if I hookup the Oppo 105's 5.1 analog outs to it, and the separate 2 CH outs to it, and set the downmix setting to 5.1, will it output regular CDs in straight L/R stereo, and multichannel DVDs in 5.1.? Assuming I switch the settings in the processor to accommodate the different "sources". OR does the 5.1 multichannel output on the Oppo override the 2 channel ?

All outputs on the Oppo players are simultaneously active so you can make the change by switching the selected input on your AVR. You can also have the best of both worlds because you can choose to set the 2 CH inputs to serve also as the front L and R for multichannel. With stereo material, you get normal L & R and with multichannel the slightly better 2 channel inputs serve to feed your front speakers.
post #4333 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Cutler View Post

I am on the fence myself regarding upgrading my 95 to the 105. I like to use the 95 for balanced stereo into my D2v and a dealer(within reasonable distance) offered me $600 in trade for my 95 towards a 105. I am not sure how much more I can get on the used market, it's less than a year old and I have all the original packing/carton/etc.....
Decisions Decisions......smile.gif

Any feedback would be greatly welcome!

I upgraded from the 95 to the 105. My major reason was because the 105 had digital inputs. If you don't need the digital inputs, no need to upgrade. I haven't noticed any change in audio quality, but some claim they have noticed a bit better audio quality from the 105. In the used market, the 95 is going for $750-$800. But remember you have the headaches of dealing with another individual, shipping and potential damages during shipment, and Paypal/ebay/audiogon fees. $600 isn't a bad trade-in value from a dealer considering you'll skip all the headache and other fees associated with selling it yourself.
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Originally Posted by angelo View Post

I'll buy it for 600$, right now! And your dealer can get you a discount....

Oppo does not allow dealers to discount. If they do, Oppo will cut them off from being an authorized dealer. Mark-ups on Oppo is very small compared to other manufacturers and the dealer doesn't have much room anyways.
post #4334 of 5633
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

I upgraded from the 95 to the 105. My major reason was because the 105 had digital inputs. If you don't need the digital inputs, no need to upgrade. I haven't noticed any change in audio quality, but some claim they have noticed a bit better audio quality from the 105. In the used market, the 95 is going for $750-$800. But remember you have the headaches of dealing with another individual, shipping and potential damages during shipment, and Paypal/ebay/audiogon fees. $600 isn't a bad trade-in value from a dealer considering you'll skip all the headache and other fees associated with selling it yourself.
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I am still on the fence but if I could get $750-$800 for it fairly easy, I would do the upgrade. I have read that folks are seeing an overall better performance(nothing drastic)both audio(mainly my concern) and video....

Decisions decisions smile.gif
post #4335 of 5633
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

All outputs on the Oppo players are simultaneously active so you can make the change by switching the selected input on your AVR. You can also have the best of both worlds because you can choose to set the 2 CH inputs to serve also as the front L and R for multichannel. With stereo material, you get normal L & R and with multichannel the slightly better 2 channel inputs serve to feed your front speakers.

Thanks JazzGuyy. That's good to know. On your second point you lost me a little. Do I only use the 5.1 Oppo outputs to the BK 30 and not the 2 ch Oppo outputs also ?

Oh wait, I re-read your post. Do you mean that I do use the 2 ch analog on the Oppo, and not the Front Left and Front Right outputs on the multi-channel section ? OR
do I just leave them all plugged in and do it thru switching ?
Sorry for the confusion....
Edited by gripen08 - 3/20/13 at 12:20pm
post #4336 of 5633
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Originally Posted by HowardV View PostI upgraded from the 95 to the 105. My major reason was because the 105 had digital inputs. If you don't need the digital inputs, no need to upgrade. I haven't noticed any change in audio quality, but some claim they have noticed a bit better audio quality from the 105. ...

I also upgraded to get digital inputs and headphone amp and 4k upscaling, audio is very close to the 95

post #4337 of 5633
RDGrimes,

You have to understand that this noise that went to the tweeters was not nice, clean, laboratory-grade white or pink noise...it "resembled" white or pink noise but wasn't. It was some sort of hellish potpourri of evil frequencies sent straight from the dark lord himself by way of some free ripping software.eek.gif I suspect from what my ears heard it contained a ton of HF distortion mixed in with static. I'll be happy to email an MP3 of this file to anyone to listen to (at low volume). biggrin.gif I could attache to this forum but not sure about copyright even though it's not in it's original state.

I spoke with Albert Von Schweikert a few minutes ago. he said that once he accidentally sent an HF oscillation to his speakers and the tweeters fried in less than a few seconds. He said that the voice coil was completely vaporized as that kind of signal caused the amp to put out higher than rated power for a split second with pure distortion.

About 15 years ago I hit the record button with a live mic and with the tape monitor switch on and the volume up. Screeching feedback as soon as I hit the rec. button. In the time it took to turn it off I had fried a different set of speakers' tweeters.

Albert was nice enough to personally call me back listen to the problem and to send me new tweeters at his cost. He also walked me through the replacement process to save $$ to return them to CA from NC.. Can't say enough good things about that company (I'm sure others are as good as well).

I'll be trying a different ripping software from now on.

k
post #4338 of 5633
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Originally Posted by gripen08 View Post

Thanks JazzGuyy. That's good to know. On your second point you lost me a little. Do I only use the 5.1 Oppo outputs to the BK 30 and not the 2 ch Oppo outputs also ?

Oh wait, I re-read your post. Do you mean that I do use the 2 ch analog on the Oppo, and not the Front Left and Front Right outputs on the multi-channel section ? OR
do I just leave them all plugged in and do it thru switching ?
Sorry for the confusion....

You use the 2 channel Oppo outputs into the L and R front multichannel inputs on your AVR. The other channels use the regular multichannel outputs on the Oppo. There is a setting in the Oppo's setup menus where you tell the player that you are using the 2 channel outputs for L and R when playing multichannel material.
post #4339 of 5633
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Originally Posted by Cutler View Post

I am still on the fence but if I could get $750-$800 for it fairly easy, I would do the upgrade. I have read that folks are seeing an overall better performance(nothing drastic)both audio(mainly my concern) and video....

Decisions decisions smile.gif
I would take the dealer up on that deal in a heartbeat.
I had a 95 that got stolen and went to the 105.
The features alone make it worthwhile imo.

I think that the 105 has a slight edge in the analog realm to the 95 and I too use the XLR Left & Right.

One thing I will say about the 105, the firmware is not mature just yet.
I have occasional lock ups when I leave it on for extended periods without playing.
It takes a long time to power down. A power up resets the issue.
post #4340 of 5633
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

You use the 2 channel Oppo outputs into the L and R front multichannel inputs on your AVR. The other channels use the regular multichannel outputs on the Oppo. There is a setting in the Oppo's setup menus where you tell the player that you are using the 2 channel outputs for L and R when playing multichannel material.

Ok. That makes sense. So connected this way if I play a regular 2 ch CD I don't need to switch the AVR as I assume the Oppo will automatically output just the L and R signal. Am I ccorrect?

Oh and therefore the L and R jacks on the 105 multichannel section are not used at all in this case. True ?
post #4341 of 5633
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Originally Posted by gripen08 View Post

Ok. That makes sense. So connected this way if I play a regular 2 ch CD I don't need to switch the AVR as I assume the Oppo will automatically output just the L and R signal. Am I ccorrect?

Oh and therefore the L and R jacks on the 105 multichannel section are not used at all in this case. True ?

Yes, to both your questions.
post #4342 of 5633
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

If you don't need the digital inputs, no need to upgrade.

For some of us, the removal of the fan was reason enough to upgrade.
post #4343 of 5633
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

You use the 2 channel Oppo outputs into the L and R front multichannel inputs on your AVR. The other channels use the regular multichannel outputs on the Oppo. There is a setting in the Oppo's setup menus where you tell the player that you are using the 2 channel outputs for L and R when playing multichannel material.

Connect only the stereo L and R, center, surrounds, and subs. Don't connect the multichannel L and R at all. Set the Oppo so it uses the stereo L and R outputs when playing multichannel.
post #4344 of 5633
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

Connect only the stereo L and R, center, surrounds, and subs. Don't connect the multichannel L and R at all. Set the Oppo so it uses the stereo L and R outputs when playing multichannel.

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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

Yes, to both your questions.

Super! Thanks to both of you for the input. Looks like I will go with a 105 versus the Olive 3HD. I think the Oppo is a much more versatile product with superior audio processing capabilities.
post #4345 of 5633
Well my BDP-95 is up on Audiogon for $800, hopefully I will get some interested parties as that's a good deal(free shipping) smile.gif.

Hope to join the 105 family soon!
post #4346 of 5633
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

Connect only the stereo L and R, center, surrounds, and subs. Don't connect the multichannel L and R at all. Set the Oppo so it uses the stereo L and R outputs when playing multichannel.

I just googled your system......awesome! sorry just had to tell you that!
post #4347 of 5633
Since there has been a lot of chatter about movie soundtracks, it sounds like Zero Dark Thirty might be one to check out. I believe it won an Oscar for one of the sound categories. Here is the review of the audio from Bluray.Com "Zero Dark Thirty's DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 lossless soundtrack is one of the finest available on Blu-ray. This is a track of incredible nuance, heavy bass, and precision elements alike, all played as part of a very full and convincing stage that effortlessly brings the picture's Oscar-winning sound to life. Nearly every scene is of reference grade, whether for more intensive sounds or more subtly crucial elements that truly define an atmosphere or a moment beyond the basics. The film begins with a frightening but sonically filling and perfectly defined string of communication sound bytes that literally flood the soundstage with chatter from every direction. Equally horrific are the sounds of the torture chamber, whether its creaking pulleys or punishing Metal music that pull the listener into the room, to almost experience firsthand the interrogation. Dialogue reverberates beautifully here, as it does in a few other points throughout the movie, showing an awareness of environment and absolute sound detail no matter the circumstance. Even minor exterior ambience and very subtle atmospherics -- light winds, rain and thunder, birds, insects, people rustling papers or shifting their weight in a chair -- are perfectly implemented where applicable. Gunfire sounds wonderfully authentic; AK fire during the Khobar Towers attack punishes listeners with the heavy, precise, and terrifying bursts, while suppressed M4 fire at the end plays with faultless accuracy. The track's low end is a match for the rest; a rumbling jet engine, the heavy spinning of helicopter rotors and the rattle heard inside the machine, or a few hefty explosions in which the sheer power is dotted by scattered debris tossed into every square inch of the listening area all showcase the importance of a natural low end to this, and any, film experience. Dialogue is centered and clear. This track does it all; faultless clarity, endlessly natural surround support, and aggressive but balanced bass are all major aspects perfectly blended together into what is one of the top soundtracks available on Blu-ray." I just picked it up at Blockbuster and can't wait to watch it.
post #4348 of 5633
+1. That's definitely on my list to watch.
post #4349 of 5633
For folks in Europe, OPPO UK has now posted the Italian version of the Manual for the BDP-105EU:

http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/customer-services/downloads/

--Bob
post #4350 of 5633
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

Since there has been a lot of chatter about movie soundtracks, it sounds like Zero Dark Thirty might be one to check out. I believe it won an Oscar for one of the sound categories. Here is the review of the audio from Bluray.Com "Zero Dark Thirty's DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 lossless soundtrack is one of the finest available on Blu-ray. This is a track of incredible nuance, heavy bass, and precision elements alike, all played as part of a very full and convincing stage that effortlessly brings the picture's Oscar-winning sound to life. Nearly every scene is of reference grade, whether for more intensive sounds or more subtly crucial elements that truly define an atmosphere or a moment beyond the basics. The film begins with a frightening but sonically filling and perfectly defined string of communication sound bytes that literally flood the soundstage with chatter from every direction. Equally horrific are the sounds of the torture chamber, whether its creaking pulleys or punishing Metal music that pull the listener into the room, to almost experience firsthand the interrogation. Dialogue reverberates beautifully here, as it does in a few other points throughout the movie, showing an awareness of environment and absolute sound detail no matter the circumstance. Even minor exterior ambience and very subtle atmospherics -- light winds, rain and thunder, birds, insects, people rustling papers or shifting their weight in a chair -- are perfectly implemented where applicable. Gunfire sounds wonderfully authentic; AK fire during the Khobar Towers attack punishes listeners with the heavy, precise, and terrifying bursts, while suppressed M4 fire at the end plays with faultless accuracy. The track's low end is a match for the rest; a rumbling jet engine, the heavy spinning of helicopter rotors and the rattle heard inside the machine, or a few hefty explosions in which the sheer power is dotted by scattered debris tossed into every square inch of the listening area all showcase the importance of a natural low end to this, and any, film experience. Dialogue is centered and clear. This track does it all; faultless clarity, endlessly natural surround support, and aggressive but balanced bass are all major aspects perfectly blended together into what is one of the top soundtracks available on Blu-ray." I just picked it up at Blockbuster and can't wait to watch it.

its a great film as well.

Jacob
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