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post #4471 of 10183
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

My BDP-105 connection path: 7.1 analog outputs (using dedicated FR/FL) -> Marantz AV8801 -> Outlaw 7500 -> Revel Salons.
I can tell you the sound is different than via the HDMI outs/
I prefer the analog outs for Music and it I just leave it that way for movies too and it sounds great.

There are many that find no difference so this is a truly a case of YMMV.

Enjoy,

- Rich

Rich do you have to adjust the Sub-woofer level up? This is the one adjustment I need to make when I choose to go the analog route for bluray movies.
post #4472 of 10183
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post



Rich do you have to adjust the Sub-woofer level up? This is the one adjustment I need to make when I choose to go the analog route for bluray movies.

I just stay in Analog mode so I have not tried much.
The Revels have very good bass so I do not turn the sub up very high anyway.

- Rich
post #4473 of 10183
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Originally Posted by RichB View PostAll my experiments with Audyssey failed tongue.gif
The vocal majority on the Marantz thread love Audyssey. Thanks, I think it is, I plan to measure it when I get the time. - Rich

So Audyssey is not the panacea, tht so many are saying it is!

post #4474 of 10183
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

So Audyssey is not the panacea, tht so many are saying it is!

I'll bet it still is, statistically.

post #4475 of 10183
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

You are welcome, yes it tried a dealer wanted me to try Furutech power cords he told me they sound amazing! I tried could not tell the difference with my stock power cord!

That's the key; if you can hear a difference you like, go for it.

If you can't, then don't.

That's the way it should work for anything in this hobby.
post #4476 of 10183
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Originally Posted by Paul Kile View Post

That's because the OPPO recognized how bad that movie is. Try playing "Tora Tora Tora" instead...:biggrin.gif

Nope; the Oppo is instead rejecting it in favor of the SD DVD of the Vista Series Director's Cut of PH… wink.gif

(Seriously, I can't stand the theatrical cut after seeing the version on the Vista Series DVD.)
post #4477 of 10183
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

So Audyssey is not the panacea, tht so many are saying it is!

The way I read it appears that more people on the 8801 forum are using Audyssey than multichannel. The same goes for the Denon 4520 thread, where most owners use multichannel for music and Audyssey for movies.
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post #4479 of 10183
so it sounds like in that review the Oppo DACS beat the Anthem DACS

that is very good considering the Anthem DACS are excellent too
post #4480 of 10183
I am either losing my mind or I am a total idiot.

Just got my new 105 and I love everything about it except analog audio. I have connect the XLR outputs to the CD inputs on my Denon AVR-4311ci and can hardly hear any sound even at full volume. I have tried replacing the cables and still no joy. It must be cockpit error, but after a couple of hours of experimentation, I can't seem to get it to work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance, Al Nugent
post #4481 of 10183
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Originally Posted by afnugent View Post

I am either losing my mind or I am a total idiot.

Just got my new 105 and I love everything about it except analog audio. I have connect the XLR outputs to the CD inputs on my Denon AVR-4311ci and can hardly hear any sound even at full volume. I have tried replacing the cables and still no joy. It must be cockpit error, but after a couple of hours of experimentation, I can't seem to get it to work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
The Denon AVR-4311CI doesn't have XLR inputs, so the obvious question is what are you using for cables? My suggestion would be to use the unbalanced RCA outputs on the 105 - there's no advantage to using the XLR outputs if the other end doesn't have XLR inputs.
post #4482 of 10183
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View PostThat's the key; if you can hear a difference you like, go for it. If you can't, then don't. That's the way it should work for anything in this hobby.

Agreed 100% :)

post #4483 of 10183
I love my Oppo 105, been using it a lot as a preamp for the past 3 months and it started to bug this week, had to unplug the whole thing cause it could not process the cable box image anymore, juste the sound, but now it seems to be fine...also the usb movies were lagging a lot just before that but unplugging it from the wall solved it, restarting the player 10 times for long minutes did not.

Also last night, another weird bug, I was playing an avi file and the dvd cover from gracenote stayed there on the tv screen once I switched to hdmi-back to watch cable tv. Even when switching channels, it always stayed there, had to restard the player...

Just weird bugs like this was Windows 2000....but I LOVE my Oppo even if it's slow sometimes, will not exchange for anything else...

Just sharing some thoughts, might come back later tonight.
post #4484 of 10183
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Originally Posted by ThousandThrills View Post

Just weird bugs like this was Windows 2000....but I LOVE my Oppo even if it's slow sometimes, will not exchange for anything else...
.

LOL, don't forget about Windows ME. That was the worst.
post #4485 of 10183
I wanted to ask if anyone has experience with a place called upgrade company
they charge a lot to modify Oppo and like all places, they say they are the greatest

does anyone have experience with them?


https://www.**************.com/
post #4486 of 10183
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Originally Posted by detroit1 View Post

I wanted to ask if anyone has experience with a place called upgrade company
they charge a lot to modify Oppo and like all places, they say they are the greatest

does anyone have experience with them?


https://www.**************.com/

There has been plenty of discussion here.  Do a search.

post #4487 of 10183
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Originally Posted by SergeantYnot View Post

The way I read it appears that more people on the 8801 forum are using Audyssey than multichannel. The same goes for the Denon 4520 thread, where most owners use multichannel for music and Audyssey for movies.

I have the 8801 and use Audyssey with multi/ ch for music and movies to good effect, for 2/ch listening I use the balanced outs of the 105 in its Pure Direct mode. I'm new to Audyssey and it did require plenty of research on the subject, its music performance on multi /ch sacd is captivating ( especially classical) as it addresses the same issues with movies, for me it just takes whats already good about multich music or movies and kicks it up one or two notches while doing no preservable harm to the original signal, as with all things, your results will depend on the time you spend to set it up right wink.gif
post #4488 of 10183
That's audyssey with the RCA not hdmi right?
post #4489 of 10183
I thought audyssey required a digital signal??
post #4490 of 10183
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Originally Posted by edfowler View Post

That's audyssey with the RCA not hdmi right?


No!
post #4491 of 10183
Thread Starter 
Audyssey can be applied to digital and analog sources, but analog will be converted back to digital first in order for the signal to be processed.
post #4492 of 10183
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Originally Posted by edfowler View Post

I thought audyssey required a digital signal??

This is via hdmi with Audyssey and multi ch music and movies.
post #4493 of 10183
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Audyssey can be applied to digital and analog sources, but analog will be converted back to digital first in order for the signal to be processed.

Correct !
post #4494 of 10183
I am confused. Are you using the analog outputs on the 105 for anything? Or is it just HDMI out?
post #4495 of 10183
I switched to the balanced outputs and everything is working fine. Thanks for the tip.smile.gif
post #4496 of 10183

Balanced is the way to go :)

post #4497 of 10183
Thread Starter 
Release date: March 26, 2013
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: BDP10X-50-0323B
Loader Version: 6U0900 or 7B0800 (BDP-103), 7B0800 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)

Release Notes:

Special Notice:

1. It is not possible to revert back to any previous official or beta firmware releases once this version is installed on the player. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware releases.
2. Due to the extensive changes in this major firmware update, it is required that the user performs a "Reset Factory Defaults" operation after the firmware is installed. Please write down your special settings before doing this, and remember to re-apply your settings and adjust the proper volume level (if applicable) before you play any content. You may experience stability issues if this step is not performed.
3. The new decoder firmware supplied by our chip vendor tightens the validation check for AVCHD file format. If the files in the BDMV folder do not fully comply with the AVCHD specification, the folder will not play. (For example, if the files are from a disc backup instead of an original AVCHD recording, the player will reject it.)
4. The VUDU application has been updated and some titles now have subtitles. However, turning on subtitles may result in the player exiting to the HOME menu unexpectedly. We are currently working with VUDU to resolve this issue.

Comparing to the previous Official release version BDP10X-38-1220, the major changes included in this version are:

1. Added support for Direct Stream Digital (DSD) file playback from local storage. The DSD files can be either stereo or multi-channel. Both the DFF and the DSF formats are supported.
2. Added support for CUE file playback. The function can be applied to music files on local storage and supported audio formats include FLAC, WAV, APE and MP3.
3. Added a feature that allows the creation of playlists while accessing music files from local USB storage. When navigating these music files, pressing the OPTION button will bring up a menu with a prompt to either "Add to playlist" or "Goto playlist". The created playlist file is stored within the local USB storage, inside "OPPO_Media_Info/playlist".
4. Added support for the AIFF audio format.
5. Added support for the ExFAT file system.
6. Added additional Crossover Frequency selections (50, 70, 130, 140 and 160Hz) in the "Setup Menu"->"Audio Processing"->"Crossover".
7. Added a feature that allows the user to decide which mode (Auto, Film and Video) to use when performing video de-interlacing. This can be set in "Setup Menu"->"Video Setup" -> "HDMI Options"->"De-interlacing Mode".
8. Added DMR Seek capability, so the user can drag the progress bar on the DMC side and adjust the media file playback progress on the player.
9. Removed a limitation in "Audio Processing"->"Speaker Configuration", that turns off the SBL and SBR speakers automatically when the Center speaker is set to "Off". However, if the SL and the SR speakers are set to "Off", the SBL and the SBR speakers will still be muted.
10. Resolved a recently reported FLAC file playback failure issue. Some FLAC files made from the latest version of the EAC (Exact Audio Copy) software tool could not be played on the BDP-103/105 players. This issue has been resolved.
11. Improved the down-mixing algorithm for the BDP-105's headphone output. This results in better volume and sound stage when playing certain multi-channel audio sources.
  • This change takes advantage of the main audio DSP (digital signal processor) that is normally assigned to the multi-channel analog output.
  • When headphones are connected, the multi-channel analog output is muted and the DSP is temporarily reconfigured for stereo down-mixing and its output is routed to the headphone amplifier. Please do not try to adjust the player's audio processing settings while the headphones are plugged in, as these settings are only temporarily used and will be restored to the user's original settings when the headphones are removed.
12. Added a feature that allows the adjustment of the audio delay time within the range of -100ms to +100ms. This can be set under "Setup Menu"->"Audio Processing" -> "A/V Sync", and the delayed time will be applied to all output terminals including HDMI 1 and 2, Coaxial, Optical, and 7.1 outputs (including the Stereo outputs of the BDP-105).[/list]
  • The actual audio delay effect might be different for each of the output terminals due to the different audio process algorithms and signal paths used for each output. Please adjust this setting based on the actual output terminal in use.
  • The negative adjustment values are for cancelling out the audio delay that the player automatically applies.
  • Depending on the video source and the time it takes to process the video, the main decoder chip automatically applies an audio delay in order to optimize audio video synchronization. The negative manual settings reduce the automatic audio delay, while the positive manual settings apply additional delay. Any negative value setting beyond the player's automatic delay will be treated as completely cancelling the automatic delay. For example, if the "A/V Sync" value is manually set to -100ms and for the current video source the player applies a 70ms automatic audio delay, the final result is that the 70ms audio delay gets cancelled and the audio is not delayed at all.
  • It is not possible to put audio ahead of video using this setting.
13. Resolved the brief audio popping issue found on the 7.1 and Stereo audio outputs. This popping noise could happen when the player is processing content from a television cable box (through the HDMI inputs), and when channels are switched on the cable box. This issue has been resolved.
14. Added basic support for a USB keyboard. Some of the supported keys and their functions are:
  • Numerical keyboard: if Num Lock is turned on, functions as Numerical buttons; if Num Lock is turned off, functions as navigation buttons ("2", "4", "6", "8").
  • ARROW buttons (UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT): functions as navigation buttons.
  • HOME button: functions as HOME button.
  • END button: functions as STOP button.
  • Page Up/Down buttons: functions as PAGE UP/DOWN buttons.
  • ESC button: functions as RETURN button.
  • ENTER button: functions as ENTER button.
  • SPACE button: insert a space between characters on the soft keyboard.
15. General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
post #4498 of 10183
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

I'll bet it still is, statistically.

We've been around this bend.
I think it depends on where you sit wink.gif

Since a Panacea is supposed to be a solution for everything, I really do not think statistics apply.

- Rich
Edited by RichB - 3/26/13 at 7:06pm
post #4499 of 10183
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: March 26, 2013
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: BDP10X-50-0323B
Loader Version: 6U0900 or 7B0800 (BDP-103), 7B0800 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)

Release Notes:

Special Notice:

1. It is not possible to revert back to any previous official or beta firmware releases once this version is installed on the player. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware releases.
2. Due to the extensive changes in this major firmware update, it is required that the user performs a "Reset Factory Defaults" operation after the firmware is installed. Please write down your special settings before doing this, and remember to re-apply your settings and adjust the proper volume level (if applicable) before you play any content. You may experience stability issues if this step is not performed.
3. The new decoder firmware supplied by our chip vendor tightens the validation check for AVCHD file format. If the files in the BDMV folder do not fully comply with the AVCHD specification, the folder will not play. (For example, if the files are from a disc backup instead of an original AVCHD recording, the player will reject it.)
4. The VUDU application has been updated and some titles now have subtitles. However, turning on subtitles may result in the player exiting to the HOME menu unexpectedly. We are currently working with VUDU to resolve this issue.

Comparing to the previous Official release version BDP10X-38-1220, the major changes included in this version are:

1. Added support for Direct Stream Digital (DSD) file playback from local storage. The DSD files can be either stereo or multi-channel. Both the DFF and the DSF formats are supported.
2. Added support for CUE file playback. The function can be applied to music files on local storage and supported audio formats include FLAC, WAV, APE and MP3.
3. Added a feature that allows the creation of playlists while accessing music files from local USB storage. When navigating these music files, pressing the OPTION button will bring up a menu with a prompt to either "Add to playlist" or "Goto playlist". The created playlist file is stored within the local USB storage, inside "OPPO_Media_Info/playlist".
4. Added support for the AIFF audio format.
5. Added support for the ExFAT file system.
6. Added additional Crossover Frequency selections (50, 70, 130, 140 and 160Hz) in the "Setup Menu"->"Audio Processing"->"Crossover".
7. Added a feature that allows the user to decide which mode (Auto, Film and Video) to use when performing video de-interlacing. This can be set in "Setup Menu"->"Video Setup" -> "HDMI Options"->"De-interlacing Mode".
8. Added DMR Seek capability, so the user can drag the progress bar on the DMC side and adjust the media file playback progress on the player.
9. Removed a limitation in "Audio Processing"->"Speaker Configuration", that turns off the SBL and SBR speakers automatically when the Center speaker is set to "Off". However, if the SL and the SR speakers are set to "Off", the SBL and the SBR speakers will still be muted.
10. Resolved a recently reported FLAC file playback failure issue. Some FLAC files made from the latest version of the EAC (Exact Audio Copy) software tool could not be played on the BDP-103/105 players. This issue has been resolved.
11. Improved the down-mixing algorithm for the BDP-105's headphone output. This results in better volume and sound stage when playing certain multi-channel audio sources.
  • This change takes advantage of the main audio DSP (digital signal processor) that is normally assigned to the multi-channel analog output.
  • When headphones are connected, the multi-channel analog output is muted and the DSP is temporarily reconfigured for stereo down-mixing and its output is routed to the headphone amplifier. Please do not try to adjust the player's audio processing settings while the headphones are plugged in, as these settings are only temporarily used and will be restored to the user's original settings when the headphones are removed.
12. Added a feature that allows the adjustment of the audio delay time within the range of -100ms to +100ms. This can be set under "Setup Menu"->"Audio Processing" -> "A/V Sync", and the delayed time will be applied to all output terminals including HDMI 1 and 2, Coaxial, Optical, and 7.1 outputs (including the Stereo outputs of the BDP-105).[/list]
  • The actual audio delay effect might be different for each of the output terminals due to the different audio process algorithms and signal paths used for each output. Please adjust this setting based on the actual output terminal in use.
  • The negative adjustment values are for cancelling out the audio delay that the player automatically applies.
  • Depending on the video source and the time it takes to process the video, the main decoder chip automatically applies an audio delay in order to optimize audio video synchronization. The negative manual settings reduce the automatic audio delay, while the positive manual settings apply additional delay. Any negative value setting beyond the player's automatic delay will be treated as completely cancelling the automatic delay. For example, if the "A/V Sync" value is manually set to -100ms and for the current video source the player applies a 70ms automatic audio delay, the final result is that the 70ms audio delay gets cancelled and the audio is not delayed at all.
  • It is not possible to put audio ahead of video using this setting.
13. Resolved the brief audio popping issue found on the 7.1 and Stereo audio outputs. This popping noise could happen when the player is processing content from a television cable box (through the HDMI inputs), and when channels are switched on the cable box. This issue has been resolved.
14. Added basic support for a USB keyboard. Some of the supported keys and their functions are:
  • Numerical keyboard: if Num Lock is turned on, functions as Numerical buttons; if Num Lock is turned off, functions as navigation buttons ("2", "4", "6", "8").
  • ARROW buttons (UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT): functions as navigation buttons.
  • HOME button: functions as HOME button.
  • END button: functions as STOP button.
  • Page Up/Down buttons: functions as PAGE UP/DOWN buttons.
  • ESC button: functions as RETURN button.
  • ENTER button: functions as ENTER button.
  • SPACE button: insert a space between characters on the soft keyboard.
15. General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.

 

Fabulous Beta it now supports AIFF :)

post #4500 of 10183

I like the disclaimer

 

 

"Note: Although firmware upgrade is an easy and usually trouble-free process, it is important to ensure that the power supply to the player is stable, and the upgrade process is not interrupted. A failed firmware upgrade can render the player unusable.

This release is still a beta test version, not an official release. Use it only if you would like to experiment with the new features and improvements. There is a very small chance of the new features and improvements not working properly. If that happens, please report any issue to us."

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