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Originally Posted by vacquah View Post

Hi Everyone - Does it matter if I purchase the 105 from Magnolia Audio in BestBuy or directly from Oppo, from a warranty perspective? Any reason why I should purchase directly from Oppo?
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Nope on warranty! I prefer direct buy from Oppo because they are really nice folksbiggrin.gif...

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Originally Posted by vacquah View Post

Hi Everyone - Does it matter if I purchase the 105 from Magnolia Audio in BestBuy or directly from Oppo, from a warranty perspective? Any reason why I should purchase directly from Oppo?

I am also looking for advise on how to set this up. I am looking to setup a 2 channel audio system which is fed from the xlr outputs on the 105. Then also setup a 5.2 surround system which goes through a home theater receiver. My confusion is that speakers for the 2 channel system are also the same for the home theater. Is this possible? Or do I have to have a dedicated set of speakers for 2 channel audio listening ? So for instance, does the xlr feed from the oppo go into a 2 channel power amp or does it go into a pre with xlr inputs? I guess I am confused about how to integrate a 2 channel + 5.1 home theater system . thxx
As long as you buy your new 105 from an authorized Oppo dealer, you have nothing to worry about with regards to warranties. As far as your hookup question, the Oppo's xlr outputs are only for two channel, stereo configuration. So you have two separate amps? (a 2 channel and an a/v amp)? You'll need two sets of speaker wires connected to your main stereo speakers then. I've never had a setup like this before. Not sure if this would work, considering both amp's speaker wires may mess up the impedance of your 2 stereo/FR-FL speakers or worse ruin your amps. I guess you could just disconnect one set of speaker cable (coming from your a/v receiver) when you want to listen to 2 channel audio, and vice versa when you want to use those speakers for your 5.2 configuration (a pain in the you know what..lol). Or you could just use Oppo's 7.1 channel RCA outputs and "not" use Oppo's xlr outputs nor your 2 channel amp. You can create 2 channel and 5.2 channel configurations with your a/v receiver and the Oppo's 7.1 RCA outputs.
Edited by DanF8500 - 4/22/13 at 4:11pm
post #5073 of 10148
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Nope on warranty! I prefer direct buy from Oppo because they are really nice folks:D ...
You may also keep the tax in many states if you buy directly :-)
post #5074 of 10148
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Originally Posted by RouslanB View Post

You may also keep the tax in many states if you buy directly :-)

I am in Virginia. Does buying directly save me the tax $ ?
post #5075 of 10148
Oppo 105 BETA Firmware update... doesn't work?
I downloaded on two different FAT32 usb keys the BDP10X-50-0323B (March 26) Beta Firmware, but the player doesn't recognise the "BDP10X.bin" file that is placed (as required) in the root of the two keys. I use only one at a time, with no other usb devices attached.
Any ideas why it doesn't work?
I previously updated (by network) to BDP10X-38-1220 (January 2) official firmware with no problem. And I previously updated my former BDP83 to beta firmwares with no problems at all...
THANKS!
post #5076 of 10148
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

As far as your hookup question, the Oppo's xlr outputs are only for two channel, stereo configuration. So you have two separate amps? (a 2 channel and an a/v amp)? You'll need two sets of speaker wires connected to your main stereo speakers then. I've never had a setup like this before. .

So what I have in mind is an unusual setup? How are folks setting up their 2 channel systems for audio and a 7.1 home theater system ? Do they have 2 separate systems entirely? each with its own amp and speakers?
post #5077 of 10148
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Originally Posted by gmeardi View Post

Oppo 105 BETA Firmware update... doesn't work?
I downloaded on two different FAT32 usb keys the BDP10X-50-0323B (March 26) Beta Firmware, but the player doesn't recognise the "BDP10X.bin" file that is placed (as required) in the root of the two keys. I use only one at a time, with no other usb devices attached.
Any ideas why it doesn't work?
I previously updated (by network) to BDP10X-38-1220 (January 2) official firmware with no problem. And I previously updated my former BDP83 to beta firmwares with no problems at all...
THANKS!
It worked for me. Is there a disk in your 105's tray by chance? Follow all the steps very carefully. If it doesn't automatically recognize the file after inserting the usb key, you could go into the setup menu as stated in step 6. Here's the link for the instructions again. The steps and bin file are the same for the 103 and 105 units. http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/BDP103-firmware-50-0323B.aspx
Edited by DanF8500 - 4/22/13 at 5:16pm
post #5078 of 10148
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Sony will not permit SACD audio over optical and coax outputs. Its a content protection thing ...

I thought that was just in the DSD domain. You mean it's even protected once it's converted to PCM???
post #5079 of 10148
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Originally Posted by vacquah View Post

So what I have in mind is an unusual setup? How are folks setting up their 2 channel systems for audio and a 7.1 home theater system ? Do they have 2 separate systems entirely? each with its own amp and speakers?
Seriously, you don't need to use the xlr outputs. To achieve a 2 channel and 5.2 channel configuration, just use your a/v receiver and the Oppo's 7.1 rca outputs. FR and FL rca outs of the Oppo can be used for two channel or part of a 5.2 channel config. The Oppo's 2 channel, stereo xlr and rca connections are for audio use only (dedicated 2 channel amps).
post #5080 of 10148
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Originally Posted by vacquah View Post

Hi Everyone - Does it matter if I purchase the 105 from Magnolia Audio in BestBuy or directly from Oppo, from a warranty perspective? Any reason why I should purchase directly from Oppo?
As others have said, just make sure you're purchasing from a legit dealer and there won't be any worries about warranties. Buying direct from Oppo probably puts a few extra pennies in their pockets, but otherwise there's really no advantage in buying direct from them.
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I am also looking for advise on how to set this up. I am looking to setup a 2 channel audio system which is fed from the xlr outputs on the 105. Then also setup a 5.2 surround system which goes through a home theater receiver. My confusion is that speakers for the 2 channel system are also the same for the home theater. Is this possible? Or do I have to have a dedicated set of speakers for 2 channel audio listening ? So for instance, does the xlr feed from the oppo go into a 2 channel power amp or does it go into a pre with xlr inputs? I guess I am confused about how to integrate a 2 channel + 5.1 home theater system . thxx
The 2 channel outputs can be configured for either a 2 channel stereo downmix (the default configuration) and used for a 2 channel audio system OR they can be configured as front left/right and used in conjunction with the rest of the 7.1 analog outputs. This configuration option applies to both the RCA and XLR outputs. That said, if you're looking to connect both the speaker outputs from a power amp AND your receiver to the same pair of speakers, there really isn't a practical (and safe) way to do that. If you don't want to have to plug/unplug things to switch back and forth, you would need to purchase a switch box that will allow you to swap the speakers between the amp and receiver. There was some discussion of this several weeks ago. Whatever you do, don't simply connect the speakers outputs from both amps to your speakers as you are bound to fry some combination of speakers, amp, and receiver. If you want to use the same speakers for both duties, you'll probably be better served considering options that allow you to use one amplifier for both.
post #5081 of 10148
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Sony will not permit SACD audio over optical and coax outputs. Its a content protection thing ...

I thought that was just in the DSD domain. You mean it's even protected once it's converted to PCM???

Basically, they say "No High Resolution Audio" of any sort in any format on optical or coax outputs...

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Has anyone else had the problem of the Oppo locking up or freezing up when you connect a usb external hard drive?

I have had this happen a few times with my 4TB WD drive. I already have the beta firmware

there are times when you press movie and you see the drive, then when you hit enter on the drive it may lock up there or it will go the next screen which shows the folders and then when you press enter for a file it may lock up at that point

the only thing I have been able to do is turn the Oppo off and the then turn it back on and I may have to do that 2-3 times before it starts working again

I think this is the Oppo software issue from the beta firmware

I called them but they were not aware of this but I have had this happen 3 times already in 5 days

I know my drive is working right because I can connect it to my computers and it works fine and I did the defrag on it
post #5083 of 10148
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Originally Posted by vacquah View Post

I am in Virginia. Does buying directly save me the tax $ ?
Oppo is in California, so it should.
I've bot mine from audioholics website - no tax
post #5084 of 10148
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Originally Posted by vacquah View Post

Hi Everyone - Does it matter if I purchase the 105 from Magnolia Audio in BestBuy or directly from Oppo, from a warranty perspective? Any reason why I should purchase directly from Oppo?

I am also looking for advise on how to set this up. I am looking to setup a 2 channel audio system which is fed from the xlr outputs on the 105. Then also setup a 5.2 surround system which goes through a home theater receiver. My confusion is that speakers for the 2 channel system are also the same for the home theater. Is this possible? Or do I have to have a dedicated set of speakers for 2 channel audio listening ? So for instance, does the xlr feed from the oppo go into a 2 channel power amp or does it go into a pre with xlr inputs? I guess I am confused about how to integrate a 2 channel + 5.1 home theater system . thxx

I have a similar setup, To make this manageable I would recommend a Stereo preamp with HT bypass. The Preamp will have an XLR input (to accept the XLR feed from the OPPO) and output if you have an XLR capable amp. Run the main RCA out from the OPPO into your AVR. AVR into Preamp's bypass input. Preamps XLR or RCA output to amplifier and the amp to speakers. This way, you can combine both systems(OPPO & AVR) with one set of front speakers. I currently use an adcom GFP 750 preamp for my set up.
post #5085 of 10148
I listened to James Blakes "overgrown" Album via the Oppo. Very impressive...try it
post #5086 of 10148
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Originally Posted by gmeardi View Post

Oppo 105 BETA Firmware update... doesn't work?
I downloaded on two different FAT32 usb keys the BDP10X-50-0323B (March 26) Beta Firmware, but the player doesn't recognise the "BDP10X.bin" file that is placed (as required) in the root of the two keys. I use only one at a time, with no other usb devices attached.
Any ideas why it doesn't work?
I previously updated (by network) to BDP10X-38-1220 (January 2) official firmware with no problem. And I previously updated my former BDP83 to beta firmwares with no problems at all...
THANKS!

You're in Italy, are you trying to flash the EU player with firmware for the USA model?
post #5087 of 10148
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Originally Posted by eusoro View Post

I have a similar setup, To make this manageable I would recommend a Stereo preamp with HT bypass. The Preamp will have an XLR input (to accept the XLR feed from the OPPO) and output if you have an XLR capable amp. Run the main RCA out from the OPPO into your AVR. AVR into Preamp's bypass input. Preamps XLR or RCA output to amplifier and the amp to speakers. This way, you can combine both systems(OPPO & AVR) with one set of front speakers. I currently use an adcom GFP 750 preamp for my set up.
Yes. That will work. A preamp with HT bypass is the key!!
post #5088 of 10148
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Originally Posted by vacquah View Post

So what I have in mind is an unusual setup? How are folks setting up their 2 channel systems for audio and a 7.1 home theater system ? Do they have 2 separate systems entirely? each with its own amp and speakers?

Not at all. We have 5.1 (which generalizes to 7.1), and stereo. It's pretty simple, if you have full-range speakers all around. Even if not, the Oppo can process the signals correctly.

Our preamp is just a passthrough (6 straight wires with gain, basically). All of the digital work is done in the Oppo.
post #5089 of 10148
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Originally Posted by MLM View Post

Sounds like a purposely added amount of harmonic distortion. But look at the description given regarding what the Modwrighted Oppo 105 has. It looks similar:

"Slightly soft on leading edges, image outlines and bass control. Dense. Generous. Relaxed. Midrange-y and even mildly bassy, i.e. very extended in the bass if not ultimately taut in the bottom octaves. Richly saturated. Colorful."

If this is to be believed, it appears to be a very poor use of tube technology. I haven''t read anything like this since the very early pre-solid state era. Hardly a favorable review.

I sell a Distortatron 5000, that can be used to inject however much Signal Untegrity you prefer to add to the correct signal coming out of your Oppo.

Only $17,500. Half down, half on delivery.
post #5090 of 10148
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Originally Posted by detroit1 View Post

Has anyone else had the problem of the Oppo locking up or freezing up when you connect a usb external hard drive?

I think this is the Oppo software issue from the beta firmware

My BDP-105 has locked up a few times since the installation of the beta firmware. It happens immediately upon power-up, and an additional power cycle resolves it. I do not have any USB devices connected.
post #5091 of 10148
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Originally Posted by eusoro View Post

I have a similar setup, To make this manageable I would recommend a Stereo preamp with HT bypass. The Preamp will have an XLR input (to accept the XLR feed from the OPPO) and output if you have an XLR capable amp. Run the main RCA out from the OPPO into your AVR. AVR into Preamp's bypass input. Preamps XLR or RCA output to amplifier and the amp to speakers. This way, you can combine both systems(OPPO & AVR) with one set of front speakers. I currently use an adcom GFP 750 preamp for my set up.

OK...now you confused me. I get the OPPO into a bypass-capable Preamp. AVR to Preamp? You don't need both. I don't run either and I still have 2-channel AND 5.1 (really 3.1).
post #5092 of 10148
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

OK...now you confused me. I get the OPPO into a bypass-capable Preamp. AVR to Preamp? You don't need both. I don't run either and I still have 2-channel AND 5.1 (really 3.1).
The explanation was specifically for using an Oppo 105 in a 2 amp configuration (a dedicated 2 channel amp for audio only, and an A/V receiver for HT). A preamp with bypass HT functionality is needed for systems with two amps. If one doesn't want to use two different amps, then an A/V receiver connected to an Oppo 105 is all you need for 2 channel to 7.1 channel configurations.
Edited by DanF8500 - 4/22/13 at 10:22pm
post #5093 of 10148
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

OK...now you confused me. I get the OPPO into a bypass-capable Preamp. AVR to Preamp? You don't need both. I don't run either and I still have 2-channel AND 5.1 (really 3.1).


Depends on your application.. Let me know what confused you and I'll try to explain my set up......
post #5094 of 10148
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Originally Posted by vacquah View Post

So what I have in mind is an unusual setup? How are folks setting up their 2 channel systems for audio and a 7.1 home theater system ? Do they have 2 separate systems entirely? each with its own amp and speakers?

I just use different inputs on the AVR - I have the Oppo connected 3 ways: to analog 7.1 multi ch inputs, to HDMI, and to Stereo (from the Oppo stereo outs). All the same system and speakers, but it lets me listen to different source material with the appropriate processing or none at all.
post #5095 of 10148
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Originally Posted by stevepow View Post

I just use different inputs on the AVR - I have the Oppo connected 3 ways: to analog 7.1 multi ch inputs, to HDMI, and to Stereo (from the Oppo stereo outs). All the same system and speakers, but it lets me listen to different source material with the appropriate processing or none at all.

This is the way it should be done. OPPO to the AVR to amp to speakers using the AVR as a switch.
post #5096 of 10148
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

I currently have my 105 connected to a McIntosh MX-119 pre/pro with both the 5.1 analog cables and the optical digital cable. When playing 2-channel SACD, the analog output works perfect. But I'm having problems with the digital optical cable. I have the Oppo set to DSD to PCM. My MX-119 can handle 24/96 files, so I set the Oppo to output the digital to 96khz. But I still don't get any sound from the MX-119. Is what I'm doing possible?

And I know the sound is allegely better with DSD and using the Oppo's analog out, but when I'm not doing critical listening, I like to have the MX-119 do simulated multi-channel processing, so I would like to be able to use the digital output as well.

Thanks for any help!

P.S. Regular CD's come through perfectly from the digital out's to my MX-119, it's only SACD that won't play.
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Sony will not permit SACD audio over optical and coax outputs. Its a content protection thing ...

You can put a HDMI-Audio De-embedder between the HDMI-Out 2 of the Oppo and the optical or coax inputs of your McIntosh. I have this one. It gives the PCM-stream in 88,2kHz to my Lyngdorf. With a suitable USB-soundcard it is possible to record that stream smile.gif
post #5097 of 10148
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Originally Posted by Holzohr View Post


You can put a HDMI-Audio De-embedder between the HDMI-Out 2 of the Oppo and the optical or coax inputs of your McIntosh. I have this one. It gives the PCM-stream in 88,2kHz to my Lyngdorf. With a suitable USB-soundcard it is possible to record that stream smile.gif

That looks like a pretty neat device.
post #5098 of 10148
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Originally Posted by stevepow View Post

Probably the best way to compare DSD to PCM is to do it inside the Oppo and leave the Onk out of it (assuming the Onk can take 7.1 in and not do anything to it other than send it back out to the amps) - since we know the Oppo will take DSD straight to the analog outputs.

Then the only thing required to compare to PCM is to bypass the Oppo bass management and any other processing for PCM that is bypassed by DSD like possibly trim and distance - I forget whether DSD to analog bypasses those settings or not - seems like maybe trim is active and distance isn't. Easy enough to test and verify. And even if the Onk is doing something, it won't be contributing to any differences heard between the two Oppo options of DSD or PCM.

At least I think this should be a good way to go at it...I'm sure Bob or Bill or someone else will sort me out if it isn't.

Unfortunately the Onk 5010 doesn't have 5.1 inputs. Bit of an oversight on my part, really, as I had a faulty 5009 (which did have 5.1 inputs) that was faulty and they replaced it with the 5010 when they couldn't repair it. Not a big problem in the long run as I'm intending to split the Home Theater and the the Hi-Fi side of things when we move house, but it would have been nice to try the Oppo's 5.1 output. Still, playing with DSD over HDMI is new to me, so I'm learning all about that at present. Shame I'm a perennial newbie. One day I'll actually get to grips with all this stuff.
post #5099 of 10148
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

That said, if you're looking to connect both the speaker outputs from a power amp AND your receiver to the same pair of speakers, there really isn't a practical (and safe) way to do that. If you don't want to have to plug/unplug things to switch back and forth, you would need to purchase a switch box that will allow you to swap the speakers between the amp and receiver. There was some discussion of this several weeks ago. Whatever you do, don't simply connect the speakers outputs from both amps to your speakers as you are bound to fry some combination of speakers, amp, and receiver. .
I have recently tried such a setup with no issues. All I do is either power down my surround receiver when using the separate 2 channel amp or the reverse when using the surround receiver. I go back and forth with my turntable or Oppo 83 (still trying to decide on 105 or 103 upgrade) into RCA Inputs on my 2 channel amp, which, by the way, also has its own volume controls. Only real danger is third party lack of knowledge of the setup, but that is not likely to happen in my man-loft.
post #5100 of 10148
Setting up the 105 first time from a 95. When using HDMI in- back, the display will not show the audio format on what's playing, anyway of getting around it?

Alex:)
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