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post #5461 of 10109
^ I don't think so. The OPPO is not an "AirPlay" device, and I don't recall anyone saying they've found a hack to get around that.

On the other hand, if your Mac is close enough to the OPPO that you can run a USB cable between them, then you CAN use the Asynchronous USB DAC input to play any audio the Mac can produce through the OPPO (stereo LPCM up to 192KHz 24-bit). When the Mac and OPPO are cabled that way, the OPPO will show as an additional audio output device in System Preferences > Sound and you just select that for use in lieu of the Mac's own speakers. On the OPPO you press the Input button and select USB AUDIO IN.
--Bob
post #5462 of 10109
Thanks for the quick reply. I was guessing it wasn't possible but thought I should ask. Too bad they aren't close enough to connect via USB.
post #5463 of 10109
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Originally Posted by Kirrus View Post

Hello, I received my Oppo BDP-105 recently and gave a few tries using my old headphone amp HeadRoom Ultra Micro Amp and Sennheiser HD800 headphones. Unfortunately I found out that build-in headphone amp suffers in mid-range frequency, so I had to use a separate amp. Now I'd like to use the player in its full capacity (i.e. with video). I have Yamaha RX-V 1900 receiver with I plan to use with the Oppo player for both headphone and speaker listening (setting HDMI directly to TV set). Do you think this Yamaha receiver will match (at least somehow) this palyer, or I should immediately buy another amp? Thanks, I'd appreciate any advice.
If you are trying to go through the receiver you might as well buy 103 instead, but if you never tried oppo 105 driving a good power amp you may never know what you have being missing :-)
At the same time it is hard for me to imagine how a
post #5464 of 10109
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Originally Posted by mtbikenh View Post

Thanks for the quick reply. I was guessing it wasn't possible but thought I should ask. Too bad they aren't close enough to connect via USB.
The other option is to explore DLNA server options for your Mac. You could then either push content to the Oppo using DLNA DMR or you could pull content from the Mac using the Oppo's DLNA browser UI. I'm a Windows person, so I'm not the one to make DLNA recommendations for Mac, though J River Media Center now has a Mac version.
post #5465 of 10109
... Receiver which packs delicate DAC/preamp circuits with high current 7 or 9 channel amp section - all fed from the same power supply - could possibly sound better than any decent power amp.
As little as 799 will give you a very good power amp today - Emotiva XPA-2 http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-xpa-2
If you have more $ to burn - emotiva xpa-1l (35 watts class A, 500 - class AB, fully balanced) could be even better sounding option with your 105
Emotiva has 30 days return policy - nothing to loose.

Apologies for incomplete previous post - cell phone typing has its own problems
post #5466 of 10109
Curious why, now that the Oppo supports DSD playback, I can't get any sound from Audirvana on DSD settings through the Asynchronous USB port (except a thumping from the sub, or high pitched white noise from the mains)? Should I be using a different input on the Oppo?
post #5467 of 10109
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Originally Posted by boyce89976 View Post

Curious why, now that the Oppo supports DSD playback, I can't get any sound from Audirvana on DSD settings through the Asynchronous USB port (except a thumping from the sub, or high pitched white noise from the mains)? Should I be using a different input on the Oppo?

DSD playback is for files played from attached storage or from an SMB server.

The Asynchronous USB DAC Input is still LPCM 2.0. You need to set Audirvana for LPCM output.
--Bob
post #5468 of 10109
Thread Starter 
Asynchronous USB does not support DSD as far as I remember. It is exclusive to SMB and direct USB playback.
post #5469 of 10109
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

I also hook up my STB directly to my display (Panny VT30), but I output native resolution from the STB (720p or 1080i, depending on the channel) so that my display does the upscaling rather than the STB. IMO, PQ is fantastic (I'm sure the display does better processing than the STB - you should give it a try).

That is a very good point. I have a Panny GT50. Thnx for the tip!
post #5470 of 10109
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

DSD playback is for files played from attached storage or from an SMB server.

The Asynchronous USB DAC Input is still LPCM 2.0. You need to set Audirvana for LPCM output.
--Bob

Ah, that makes sense, thanks Bob, and also explains why I can't get the multi-channel versions to work through the Asynch USB.
post #5471 of 10109
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Originally Posted by RouslanB View Post

If you are trying to go through the receiver you might as well buy 103 instead, but if you never tried oppo 105 driving a good power amp you may never know what you have being missing :-)
At the same time it is hard for me to imagine how a
The problem is: I use headphones much more than speakers, so I need something that matches Oppo 105 and HD800. My idea was to connect the player to Yamaha receiver through stereo RCA output with good cables... BTW, is Oppo 105 really good as a pre-amp?
post #5472 of 10109
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Originally Posted by mtbikenh View Post

Just got my 105 today.

I have searched but I can't find a simple answer to my question. Maybe there isn't one smile.gif

Can iTunes be streamed wirelessly from my IMAC directly to the OPPO?

Thanks.
You could get an AppleTV but sound quality will be very good but slightly less than that of Redbook CD quality for CDs burned via Apple Lossless. At least for my version of AppleTV. Don't know if that limitation is from streaming or from Windows version of ITunes.
post #5473 of 10109
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

The other option is to explore DLNA server options for your Mac. You could then either push content to the Oppo using DLNA DMR or you could pull content from the Mac using the Oppo's DLNA browser UI. I'm a Windows person, so I'm not the one to make DLNA recommendations for Mac, though J River Media Center now has a Mac version.


I am a MAC user and use Yazoft's "Playback" as a DLNA server (very inexpensive) and free Kinsky app. on iPad as a DMC. It worked great until I updated the firmware with the latest load. Oppo is aware of the issue.
post #5474 of 10109
re: Trim: Just thought I'd pass this on - excuse me if it has been already documented. My setup is 5.1 analog out. I was adjusting the trim in conjunction with the test tones in the Speaker Configuration menu but the volume level of each speaker was not changing. After a lot of messing around and getting frustrated I shut everything off and disconnected all cables (including Power) from the 105. Plugged everything back and Trim worked perfectly as I was able to use the test tones to hear the volume changes. Why this happened, I do not know.
post #5475 of 10109
Hi all:

Just got anew 105 and loving it. Since upgrading to the latest firmware (Bdp10x-50-0422), I have been unable to play my backup SACD disks. I burned them from ISO onto DVD-R and DVD+R blanks. They actually worked fine when I first bought the 105. For the past two weeks, they simply give me UNKNOWN Disk.

Any suggestions?
post #5476 of 10109
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Originally Posted by bklynhowie View Post

Hi all:

Just got anew 105 and loving it. Since upgrading to the latest firmware (Bdp10x-50-0422), I have been unable to play my backup SACD disks. I burned them from ISO onto DVD-R and DVD+R blanks. They actually worked fine when I first bought the 105. For the past two weeks, they simply give me UNKNOWN Disk.

Any suggestions?

SACD-R is no longer supported. The studios don't want you making copies.

-Bill
post #5477 of 10109
Wow..That really sucks...I guess I could rip to DSD files and throw them onto a HD...Any other suggested way to play them?
post #5478 of 10109
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Originally Posted by Kirrus View Post

The problem is: I use headphones much more than speakers, so I need something that matches Oppo 105 and HD800. My idea was to connect the player to Yamaha receiver through stereo RCA output with good cables... BTW, is Oppo 105 really good as a pre-amp?
Connecting to your receiver using analog audio RCA connects will sound great and utilize the excellent DACs in the 105. If you will be connecting digitally (such as via HDMI), then the 103 is all you need. IMO, you don't have to use the 105 as a preamp in order to get excellent audio.
post #5479 of 10109
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Originally Posted by bklynhowie View Post

Wow..That really sucks...I guess I could rip to DSD files and throw them onto a HD...Any other suggested way to play them?
Put sacd disk into Oppo's tray and push "play"? Is there actually a way to make exact electronic copies of sacd disks? I thought they were copy protected? I've been able to rip the cd layer off an sacd(hybrid), but not the sacd layer...
post #5480 of 10109
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Originally Posted by bklynhowie View Post

Hi all:

Just got anew 105 and loving it. Since upgrading to the latest firmware (Bdp10x-50-0422), I have been unable to play my backup SACD disks. I burned them from ISO onto DVD-R and DVD+R blanks. They actually worked fine when I first bought the 105. For the past two weeks, they simply give me UNKNOWN Disk.

Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by bklynhowie View Post

Wow..That really sucks...I guess I could rip to DSD files and throw them onto a HD...Any other suggested way to play them?


Welcome to the club of sad SACD-R owners.. lol smile.gif Ripping to DSD-files is the way and imho, creating CUE sheets.
Edited by Holzohr - 5/15/13 at 9:50am
post #5481 of 10109
Hey guys, I got an Oppo BDP 105 last week, and I bought it expecting audiophile greatness. I chose it over the 103 for the DACs and USB input. So far though, I've had some issues getting optimal sound in my set up, or what I perceive my setup to be capable of. I have a 7.1ch receiver(Marantz SR6007), Atlantic Technology 2200 7.1 set up, and the Oppo, and when listening to music from the computer a Macbook pro with Pure Music.
Issue #1 When connecting with the Usb input from my computer, using the 7.1 analogue outputs on the Oppo, I only get 2ch sound and no sub. When using the HDMI output however, I get The DTS Neo surround, and subwoofer output. But obviously I'm not taking advantage of the Dac's in the player. Is that just pretty much designed for a stereo setup?
Issue #2 When playing Cd's through the Oppo, when using the 7.1 analogue outputs, it sounds pretty thin, and the bass doesn't seem to be consistent, sometimes it's too intense and other times it's not present enough, and when using the HDMI, it sounds pretty great. But again.. I wanna take advantage of these awesome Dac's I've heard of.
Issue #3 When playing DVD's or Blu-rays, with the 7.1 analogue outputs, I seem to get a thicker sound, and dialogue is easier to understand but my receiver won't let me use Audyssey with the 7.1 inputs on it, so most of the sound is really pushed up front, so it feels as if the sounds coming at you, where as when using HDMI with Audyssey the sound is all around, enveloping you. And because of that, the sound through the 7.1 doesn't seem better, just different cause Audyssey totally changes it.
So basically, I guess I'm asking is there anyway to help or solve any of these issues? And to the best of your knowledge do you think my setup is holding me back? I would like to mention, the quality of the rest of the player, has really made an impact. The sound over HDMI has never sounded this good before, and I'm pleased with that. And the Usb input from the computer sounds better than the optical I was using before straight to the receiver, (which I'm confused as to why, because that's with using the HDMI and in which case, not using the dacs in the Oppo).

Appreciate your help!
post #5482 of 10109
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Originally Posted by Player3 View Post

Issue #1 When connecting with the Usb input from my computer, using the 7.1 analogue outputs on the Oppo, I only get 2ch sound and no sub. When using the HDMI output however, I get The DTS Neo surround, and subwoofer output. But obviously I'm not taking advantage of the Dac's in the player. Is that just pretty much designed for a stereo setup?
The Async USB input on the 105 only supports 2 channel audio, so that's all you'll get on the analog outputs when using that input.
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Issue #2 When playing Cd's through the Oppo, when using the 7.1 analogue outputs, it sounds pretty thin, and the bass doesn't seem to be consistent, sometimes it's too intense and other times it's not present enough, and when using the HDMI, it sounds pretty great. But again.. I wanna take advantage of these awesome Dac's I've heard of.
Issue #3 When playing DVD's or Blu-rays, with the 7.1 analogue outputs, I seem to get a thicker sound, and dialogue is easier to understand but my receiver won't let me use Audyssey with the 7.1 inputs on it, so most of the sound is really pushed up front, so it feels as if the sounds coming at you, where as when using HDMI with Audyssey the sound is all around, enveloping you. And because of that, the sound through the 7.1 doesn't seem better, just different cause Audyssey totally changes it.
For both of these, I'd suggest getting a sound level meter (the one Radio Shack sells would suffice) and calibrating the output levels on the Oppo. There are internal test tones that can be used or you can purchase one of the various Bluray or DVD calibration discs and use one of them. When using the 7.1 input on your receiver, you most likely only have access to the master volume control, so the calibrated levels that the Audyssey setup gave you won't get used. But the bottom line is that if Audyssey makes a big improvement in your system, you probably aren't going to be satisfied without it. When using the HDMI output from the Oppo, try turning Audyssey on and off on your receiver - I suspect you'll notice differences that are similar to what you're hearing with the 7.1 analog input. How do you have the 7.1 analog outputs on the Oppo setup? You should probably have all speakers set to small, with a 80hz (or possibly a bit higher with your speakers) crossover.
post #5483 of 10109
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

Connecting to your receiver using analog audio RCA connects will sound great and utilize the excellent DACs in the 105. If you will be connecting digitally (such as via HDMI), then the 103 is all you need. IMO, you don't have to use the 105 as a preamp in order to get excellent audio.

True,
but you can not bypass Oppo preamp either.

My understanding is - It is always in the signal path - even at volume 100.

External preamp can only give you a volume control. The problem is - Sabre DAC 32 has an excellent 32 bit digital volume control and your preamp has to have S/N ratio above 123 to improve upon it.

They may exist but don't know how much they would cost.
For example, well regarded $899 XSP-1 Emotiva bargain only has 117 (balanced-in, balanced-out) http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/x-series/products/xsp1


IMHO there are two other reasons to use external preamp:

1) to color the sound to your liking in your particular system

2) to hook up analog sources to your system
post #5484 of 10109
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Originally Posted by Player3 View Post

Hey guys, I got an Oppo BDP 105 last week, and I bought it expecting audiophile greatness. I chose it over the 103 for the DACs and USB input. So far though, I've had some issues getting optimal sound in my set up, or what I perceive my setup to be capable of. I have a 7.1ch receiver(Marantz SR6007), Atlantic Technology 2200 7.1 set up, and the Oppo, and when listening to music from the computer a Macbook pro with Pure Music.
Issue #1 When connecting with the Usb input from my computer, using the 7.1 analogue outputs on the Oppo, I only get 2ch sound and no sub. When using the HDMI output however, I get The DTS Neo surround, and subwoofer output. But obviously I'm not taking advantage of the Dac's in the player. Is that just pretty much designed for a stereo setup?
Issue #2 When playing Cd's through the Oppo, when using the 7.1 analogue outputs, it sounds pretty thin, and the bass doesn't seem to be consistent, sometimes it's too intense and other times it's not present enough, and when using the HDMI, it sounds pretty great. But again.. I wanna take advantage of these awesome Dac's I've heard of.
Issue #3 When playing DVD's or Blu-rays, with the 7.1 analogue outputs, I seem to get a thicker sound, and dialogue is easier to understand but my receiver won't let me use Audyssey with the 7.1 inputs on it, so most of the sound is really pushed up front, so it feels as if the sounds coming at you, where as when using HDMI with Audyssey the sound is all around, enveloping you. And because of that, the sound through the 7.1 doesn't seem better, just different cause Audyssey totally changes it.
So basically, I guess I'm asking is there anyway to help or solve any of these issues? And to the best of your knowledge do you think my setup is holding me back? I would like to mention, the quality of the rest of the player, has really made an impact. The sound over HDMI has never sounded this good before, and I'm pleased with that. And the Usb input from the computer sounds better than the optical I was using before straight to the receiver, (which I'm confused as to why, because that's with using the HDMI and in which case, not using the dacs in the Oppo).

Appreciate your help!

Your are most likely hearing the benefits of Audysseys room correction.You also might want to consider the OPPO bdp 103 or try Room treatment.
post #5485 of 10109
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

There are TWO DIFFERENT settings. It may be you've simply confused them in your mind while posting here, and actually have things set up correctly.

The first setting is Setup > Audio Processing > Stereo Signal. Setting Stereo Signal = FRONT LEFT/RIGHT configures the Dedicated Stereo Analog outputs (both the RCA pair and the XLR pair) to respond to all the settings that normally affect the LF and RF outputs of the multi-channel Analog set -- so you can use, for example, the Balanced (XLR) Stereo pair in lieu of the normal LF/RF RCA jacks when wiring the multi-channel set.

The second setting is Setup > Audio Processing > Speaker Configuration > Down-mix. *THAT's* the setting that offers "LT/RT" as one of its choices. You should have that set to Down-mix = 7.1 and not to Down-mix = LT/RT. Down-mix = LT/RT is a variant form of reducing the output to Stereo only, which you certainly don't want to do in your 7.1 speaker configuration.
--Bob

Bob,

You are absolutely correct: I was confused in my explanation, but actually have things set up correctly. The one caveat is that I didn't realize I needn't use the unbalanced front left/right stereo I plugged into the 7.1 input of the Cary and instead can rely on balanced output for surround as well. If that works with the Cary, I'll be a very happy camper. I'll pull the unbalanced stereo cables tomorrow and give it a try, starting with with Jazz at the Pawnshop.

db
post #5486 of 10109
Hi all. I've got the same problem.My OPPO 105 was working flawlessly until I ugraded to the new firmware.Since the device is freezing all the time with my 1 Tb WD, I have to turn it on and off all the time.With the previous firmware I was able to watch all my BD disc rips(BD ISO),a lot of FLACKs tat it played with the previous firmware are now unreconizable.
Please ,can anyone help me how to downgrade or revert to previous firmware.All the answers will be much appreciated!!!!
post #5487 of 10109
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Originally Posted by dbphd View Post

Bob,

You are absolutely correct: I was confused in my explanation, but actually have things set up correctly. The one caveat is that I didn't realize I needn't use the unbalanced front left/right stereo I plugged into the 7.1 input of the Cary and instead can rely on balanced output for surround as well. If that works with the Cary, I'll be a very happy camper. I'll pull the unbalanced stereo cables tomorrow and give it a try, starting with with Jazz at the Pawnshop.

db


Bob,

I'm going to try using balanced stereo for the front left/right of 7.1, but I'm doubtful the Cary will permit this. The balanced input of the Cary is accessed by selecting Input 1. The 7.1 set of inputs is accessed by selecting Input 7.1 . Inputs, including HDMI 1 & 2, are selected individually.

db
post #5488 of 10109
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Originally Posted by MrBig39 View Post

Hi all. I've got the same problem.My OPPO 105 was working flawlessly until I ugraded to the new firmware.Since the device is freezing all the time with my 1 Tb WD, I have to turn it on and off all the time.With the previous firmware I was able to watch all my BD disc rips(BD ISO),a lot of FLACKs tat it played with the previous firmware are now unreconizable.
Please ,can anyone help me how to downgrade or revert to previous firmware.All the answers will be much appreciated!!!!

Welcome to AVSForum.

Did you do the Reset Factory Default after upgrading?

The player never supported ISO files.

For the rest: contact OPPO support and see if they can help you.

-Bill
post #5489 of 10109
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Edited by MrBig39 - 5/16/13 at 6:21am
post #5490 of 10109
Thanks for wellcomming Bill.
Yes I've tried it a couple of times but nothing worked.
Correction my player since the new FW won't play the AVCHD folder content that's why I would like to revert.It worked flawlessly with the previous FW and I was the happiest OPPO owner(amazing picture and sound quality)!
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