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post #5971 of 10181
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Originally Posted by bwv1080 View Post

I have both and prefer the 105 via HDMI overall (I vastly prefer multi-channel audio). It has better bass and sounds a little less "digital" to me. The differences are rather subtle, though.

Have you tried Analog ? If so you prefer HDMI ?
post #5972 of 10181
Good to know, because I was considering taking my 105 to Oppo this morning along with two FW disks they gave me at time of purchase and request a FW downgrade.
If the NF freeze up's are indeed likely due to their entitlement checks, then I'd be wasting my time.
post #5973 of 10181
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post



It has been suggested that you switch the DNS settings in the player to use one of the free, public DNS servers instead of the one provided by your ISP -- i.e., Google's free DNS servers, or OpenDNS, both of which are highly regarded. This can't be a true fix, but it MAY reduce the chances of failure due to the player being able to make the periodic authorization connection faster. For example the OpenDNS servers are at 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220. Anybody can use them -- no need to set up any sort of account or the like. Similarly with Google's version.
--Bob

I did mention this method in a previous post. To elaborate on my setup necessitated by my non-USA location:

I have the OPPO 105 (in home theatre room) connected via ethernet thru the house power system to a CISCO router which is especially set up to access a StrongVPN server in San Francisco; that CISCO router attaches directly to the household ADSL2 modem/router (which itself serves the rest of the house WiFi with a local/country DNS address).

I also run from the CISCO/StrongVPN router thru the household power circuit ethernet connnection to an OPPO 103 in the family room which is set up for Netflix as well.

I do not have any issues accessing Netflix except when general internet traffic in country is highest (like Friday nights, etc.). I then get occasional messages to try later.
post #5974 of 10181
Hey guys. I have a few questions about the oppo 105 and the setup i have. Bear with me here.
I am currently running an arcam avr300, a computer that has all of my flac files and HD mkv movies. About 400 movies so all of them.
I have a 5.1 system with an older mitz diamond rear projection TV with a dvi hookup running acustic zen adagio speakers.
I was looking to upgrade a few things since my wife and i are changing houses. I bought an arcam p7 150x7 amp to run the speakers, but was going to get a processor/receiver like a anthem mrx500-700 to run everything through. I was told today that i don't need to do this. I was at a magnolia store and the sales guy was great, but wanted to question a handful of things. First off, can i really run everything through the oppo? I did hear the oppo connected to a arcam avr600 for power into b&w speakers and it sounded incredible. I wanted to run my movie files from my computer through the oppo into the tv. I also wanted to listen to the flac files on my computer through the oppo into my amp if that would be the best sound I could get. Right now the arcam sound from the computer is mildly ok, but could sound so much better. I do plan on upgrading the TV, but not right now. I am also running dish network and thats pretty much it. I really want good audio and video and don't care about 2nd zones and all the other features that processors come with. Now i was also told that the way i use the remote now will change because the oppo doesn't have discreets to run the remote in an 1 touch setup. Also will this make my movies on my computer sound and look better? Thoughts guys? Thanks for your time here. Just trying to learn as quick as i can. Thanks in advance.
Mike.
post #5975 of 10181
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Originally Posted by djwillia33 View Post

I did mention this method in a previous post. To elaborate on my setup necessitated by my non-USA location:

I have the OPPO 105 (in home theatre room) connected via ethernet thru the house power system to a CISCO router which is especially set up to access a StrongVPN server in San Francisco; that CISCO router attaches directly to the household ADSL2 modem/router (which itself serves the rest of the house WiFi with a local/country DNS address).

I also run from the CISCO/StrongVPN router thru the household power circuit ethernet connnection to an OPPO 103 in the family room which is set up for Netflix as well.

I do not have any issues accessing Netflix except when general internet traffic in country is highest (like Friday nights, etc.). I then get occasional messages to try later.

I'm based in Sweden myself. Running the wifi on the 105 and connecting to a router that is directly connected to the fiber from my provider. My internet service provider is netflix super-HD approved (or whatever it is called). Quality is very good apart from the first ten seconds or so. Will try the above once back from traveling.
post #5976 of 10181
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Originally Posted by a1usedcomp View Post

Have you tried Analog ? If so you prefer HDMI ?

Yes, and I posted about it earlier in this thread. I couldn't get the subwoofer to work with the Opp's analog outs. At first I preferred analog, as it sounded warmer and richer, but the more I listened to it, the analog sound was more congested and lacked clarity. So, overall, I prefer HDMI.
post #5977 of 10181
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Originally Posted by bwv1080 View Post

Yes, and I posted about it earlier in this thread. I couldn't get the subwoofer to work with the Opp's analog outs. At first I preferred analog, as it sounded warmer and richer, but the more I listened to it, the analog sound was more congested and lacked clarity. So, overall, I prefer HDMI.
I personally would not spend $1200 on the 105, and use it as a digital pass through to some other dac in my system. If I didn't like the 105's dacs, I would have returned the unit. The dual Sabre dacs are the heart of the 105 as an audio player.
Edited by DanF8500 - 6/18/13 at 8:13am
post #5978 of 10181
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Originally Posted by bwv1080 View Post

Yes, and I posted about it earlier in this thread. I couldn't get the subwoofer to work with the Opp's analog outs. At first I preferred analog, as it sounded warmer and richer, but the more I listened to it, the analog sound was more congested and lacked clarity. So, overall, I prefer HDMI.

The analog outs should work.
I recommend trying to determine if either the AV8801 or 105 has a problem and get it corrected.
You Should have everything is working properly while under warranty.
With Marantz, you have a 30 day window where you can get a replacement. After that, you are looking at weeks at the repair center.

- Rich
post #5979 of 10181
^^^Make sure the Front Speakers are set to Small in the Audio Processing Menu. That makes the subwoofer kick in.
post #5980 of 10181
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Originally Posted by mazspeed View Post

Hey guys. I have a few questions about the oppo 105 and the setup i have. Bear with me here.
I am currently running an arcam avr300, a computer that has all of my flac files and HD mkv movies. About 400 movies so all of them.
I have a 5.1 system with an older mitz diamond rear projection TV with a dvi hookup running acustic zen adagio speakers.
I was looking to upgrade a few things since my wife and i are changing houses. I bought an arcam p7 150x7 amp to run the speakers, but was going to get a processor/receiver like a anthem mrx500-700 to run everything through. I was told today that i don't need to do this. I was at a magnolia store and the sales guy was great, but wanted to question a handful of things. First off, can i really run everything through the oppo? I did hear the oppo connected to a arcam avr600 for power into b&w speakers and it sounded incredible. I wanted to run my movie files from my computer through the oppo into the tv. I also wanted to listen to the flac files on my computer through the oppo into my amp if that would be the best sound I could get. Right now the arcam sound from the computer is mildly ok, but could sound so much better. I do plan on upgrading the TV, but not right now. I am also running dish network and thats pretty much it. I really want good audio and video and don't care about 2nd zones and all the other features that processors come with. Now i was also told that the way i use the remote now will change because the oppo doesn't have discreets to run the remote in an 1 touch setup. Also will this make my movies on my computer sound and look better? Thoughts guys? Thanks for your time here. Just trying to learn as quick as i can. Thanks in advance.
Mike.

I currently operate an OPPO 105 with an Arcam AVR 600 (into Japanese speakers - Almarro M2A plus some custom-built centre and surround units using the same drivers). The sound is superb and that is in comparison to the previous set-up of CARY 300B monoblocks with DAC being a Burson HD160 and source of Vincent SV3 DVD/CD/SACD player.

The set-up is:

1. Oppo105 dedicated analog stereo out to the "CD input" RCA connections of the AVR600. This uses the high quality DAC of the Oppo with the AVR600 as power amp ===> Suberb detail, expanded stage width, reasonable depth of stage (more a matter of my small listening room I think) and really sharper imaging depending on the quality of the source material.

2. The HDMI 1 from Oppo to the AVR600 for digital audio signal to the Arcam's "AV input" so that its DACs are used. This is for SACD multi-channel material. The sound staging generated by the Arcam is equally suburb but also more enveloping with the extra channels in play.

3. I also have the Oppo's analog 5.1 channel (RCA) connections set up to the "MCH inputs" of the AVR600 so I can have the Oppo do the multi-channel processing and the Arcam acts as a multi-channel power amp. I tend to prefer the Arcam as processor (via the HDMI) for such listening, but the inevitable delay plus sound level adjustment in flipping back and forth between the 2 routes makes it difficult to assess precisely....but then again who cares - the sound is marvellous either way.

NOTE; this is also my home theatre setup (Samsung 55ES8000 panel) and when Dolby TrueHD or DTS--HD Master from a Blu-ray comes down the pipeline, the Arcam sound is meltingly good (to my ears). I have a lot of music/concerts/etc on Blu-ray (e.g. "Diana Krall in Paris" or the CrossRoads guitar festival) and the 5.1 channel sound is great.

4. Just as FYI, for standard CDs I sometimes use the HDMI path to the Arcam and use its digitising muscle (Pro Logic II Music/Movie) to get some interpolated surround effects from the 2-channel source. when the source material is suitable (engineered with care?) the effect is a very nice extra dimension indeed.

5. I have an AppleTV attached to the Oppo for both video content and also to source music content from the MacPro computer over the WiFi network. Sounds good to me, but I do tend to play the shiny platters if I am doing serious listening.

6. As an alternative path for the music library, I keep a backup on an iPod Classic (160Gb) which I connect via a Wadia 171i transport to the COAX-In of the Oppo. I can then choose whether the Oppo or the Arcam does the conversion to analog. Sound from this kit used to be my prime source for the CARY 300B amps and the sound was very nice then, superb now.

7. That still leaves an empty 'HDMI-Front-In" connection, SPDIF optical input and a couple of USB connections available on the Oppo for further torturing the beast. And I still have some spare inputs for the Arcam.....but the back of the rack is already looking like a bowl of expensive plastic spaghetti!

PS: regarding using a universal remote - I have a separate setup of Oppo103 in the living room with set-top-box (Topfield) and AppleTV inputs driving a Sony panel and Yamaha sound-bar. Given that this is mostly used by my wife then a Harmony One remote was essential for peace in this nation. The slow start-up times, especially of the Oppo, drove me crazy for coding and I ended up with a 2-step start-up: first "Activity" is for "System Startup"; once all units alive then a second Activity for whichever operation (STB, Apple TV or Blu-ray/DVD) was selected on the Harmony. This has proven much more robust for startup....there was previously never a problem moving between activities once the system was up and stable.
post #5981 of 10181

Can I plug in my mac mini through the Oppo and should I use HDMi or USB?

post #5982 of 10181
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Can I plug in my mac mini through the Oppo and should I use HDMi or USB?

Yes, and it depends on what you wan't to do. The Asynchronous USB DAC Input won't carry video for example.
--Bob
post #5983 of 10181
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Originally Posted by bwv1080 View Post

Yes, and I posted about it earlier in this thread. I couldn't get the subwoofer to work with the Opp's analog outs. At first I preferred analog, as it sounded warmer and richer, but the more I listened to it, the analog sound was more congested and lacked clarity. So, overall, I prefer HDMI.

I too have both a Oppo 105 and Sony 5400ES. The Oppo output is analog to bypassed inputs; the Sony analog or HDMI. As I understand it, when you use HDMI you're listening to the sound processed by the device to which HDMI is input, in my case a Cary Cinema 11a that seems to have been voiced to sound tube-like, i.e. slightly softer and warmer than the Oppo or Sony analog, yet still detailed. Which I prefer depends on mood and material.

db
post #5984 of 10181
anyone with experience on the Arcam 300 vs the Oppo? The Arcam seems overpriced; good brand but still priced too high.. I think in Canada it is 1500
post #5985 of 10181
The Oppo certainly plays a lot more formats and has a lot more features than the Arcam.
post #5986 of 10181
I'm in love - she is so beautiful cool.gif


post #5987 of 10181

^^^ Nice indeedsmile.gif!

post #5988 of 10181
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post

I'm in love - she is so beautiful cool.gif



Uh I Oh! eek.gif I see Oppo getting backed up and a wait list forming, I'm in, that's a beauty wink.gif
post #5989 of 10181
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post

I'm in love - she is so beautiful cool.gif


Nice system.
post #5990 of 10181
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post

I'm in love - she is so beautiful cool.gif

I notice that you have placed the Oppo on small square blocks. It would be interesting to learn what it is and what it does.
Edited by OPPOrtunist - 6/20/13 at 8:30am
post #5991 of 10181
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Yes, and it depends on what you wan't to do. The Asynchronous USB DAC Input won't carry video for example.--Bob

Get the best sound, I use Audirvana and am planning to get the DIRAC Software
post #5992 of 10181
My new '105 is on the way.

Going to be using it as a sound card for a HTPC [Win7 x64], so connection from PC to the '105 has my focus.
The role of the '105 is HT, not audio playback per se. Outputs used: For 5.1 & 2.x encodings, out through HDMI 1, for 7.1 encodings output through the analog 7.1 RCA's. I will not be using the XLR's or the hookups for essentially using it as a music DAC - we're talking 99% multi-channel here. Typical use: VLC playback of MKV's having almost all possible audio encodings.

Yes, I am aware the myriad of individual factors that come into play, because we all have different homes with electrical varying elec specs, different equipment, with different configs, and have different individual tastes. I want to hear from people their experience with diff usb dac cables to find what may be the best resulting in:

* not having shrilling or too much emphasis on highs
* present efficient bass, not de-emphasize bass like some might
* be precise and articulate
* Consistent with low noise background, etc.
* Give me the depth and soundstage I will need since its HT, not audio/music playback, typically

As you can see, my trend here is to not nab a cable that results in shrilling emphasis on highs, and to get the mid and lows as justified.
Yes I can do trials, Im hoping this thread will save some of that time with general experiences people have had.

Cheers
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post #5993 of 10181
^usb cables transmit/receive digital data packets (0's and 1's) at varying data rates.....the audio data generated by your pc either makes it to your Oppo or it doesn't.....it's not an analog cable!! The qualities you're describing in your post about how you want your usb cable to effect your overall audio enjoyment are completely fabricated in your brain....Thumb drives have usb interfaces.....do you think copying the same audio files to a higher quality thumb drive is going to make them sound any different?
Edited by DanF8500 - 6/20/13 at 12:16pm
post #5994 of 10181
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

^usb cables transmit/receive digital data packets (0's and 1's) at varying data rates.....the audio data generated by your pc either makes it to your Oppo or it doesn't.....it's not an analog cable!! The qualities you're describing in your post about how you want your usb cable to effect your overall audio enjoyment are completely fabricated in your brain....Thumb drives have usb interfaces.....do you think copying the same audio files to a higher quality thumb drive is going to make them sound any different?

^
Amen!

Bits is bits unless they are also time dependent. Since the OPPO DACs re-clock, timing is not an issue. The USB cable only needs to be good enough to ensure that all the bits sent get to the destination in the same order.

Basically, it either works or it doesn't.

If a high priced USB Cable sounds better to you, go for it. They are your ears and its your pocket book.
post #5995 of 10181
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Originally Posted by RDHolmes View Post

^
Amen!

Bits is bits unless they are also time dependent. Since the OPPO DACs re-clock, timing is not an issue. The USB cable only needs to be good enough to ensure that all the bits sent get to the destination in the same order.

Basically, it either works or it doesn't.

If a high priced USB Cable sounds better to you, go for it. They are your ears and its your pocket book.


Disagree wholeheartedly.

Whats a great shielded cable that 'works'....using that philosophy, and assuming a usb 2.0 printer cable isn't fantastic.
post #5996 of 10181
I have a OPPO BDP-103 and need some help.

Can anyone tell me what the hdmi-in port is used for. I connected a dvd players hdmi to it to see if it would work. I was able to display video on my screen but no sound. Naturally I use the OPPO player for everything but am unclear what the hdmi-in is for.
I'm using a optical connection to my sound system. Why no sound. Thanks.
post #5997 of 10181
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Originally Posted by BillFree View Post

I have a OPPO BDP-103 and need some help.

Can anyone tell me what the hdmi-in port is used for. I connected a dvd players hdmi to it to see if it would work. I was able to display video on my screen but no sound. Naturally I use the OPPO player for everything but am unclear what the hdmi-in is for.
I'm using a optical connection to my sound system. Why no sound. Thanks.
I use mine to connect my cable box (1080i) to the Oppo and from the Oppo to my TV. The Oppo upscales my cable signal to 1080p. Love it!
post #5998 of 10181
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Originally Posted by BillFree View Post

I have a OPPO BDP-103 and need some help.

Can anyone tell me what the hdmi-in port is used for. I connected a dvd players hdmi to it to see if it would work. I was able to display video on my screen but no sound. Naturally I use the OPPO player for everything but am unclear what the hdmi-in is for.
I'm using a optical connection to my sound system. Why no sound. Thanks.

Make sure your DVD player is actually set up to output audio over its HDMI. It should be set to send "Bitstream" audio via its HDMI output. If you have previously been using Optical Digital cabling from it for audio, it may need a settings change to output audio via its HDMI output instead.

On the OPPO remote, press the Input button (upper right) and select the appropriate HDMI Input from the list that pops up. You should now see the video being generated by the DVD player and hear its audio as well.

If still problems, press the Info button on the OPPO remote (upper right of the 4 Arrow buttons) to bring up the OPPO's on-screen display. That will show you precisely what's coming in on that HDMI Input for video and audio format from the DVD player. If no audio is coming in, revisit the output settings in your DVD player, as they are still not right. (The OPPO's display will also show you what's going OUT on its HDMI outputs.)

If the Info display says that good audio is coming in from the DVD player and you still don't hear audio, double check how you are configured for audio from the OPPO to your sound system. For example, you say you are using Optical Digital for that? Make sure your sound system is set to listen on that Input (and not on the input you previously used for the DVD player for example). Check the Optical/Coax Output setting in the OPPO. "BITSTREAM" would be the normal choice for that when playing a DVD.
--Bob
post #5999 of 10181
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Yes, and it depends on what you wan't to do. The Asynchronous USB DAC Input won't carry video for example.--Bob

Get the best sound, I use Audirvana and am planning to get the DIRAC Software

The Asynchronous USB DAC Input will only accept Stereo audio input (2.0 LPCM up to 192KHz 24-bit). If you want to play multi-channel sound from the Mac Mini you will need to use the HDMI connection. (Or get the OPPO access to the music files you want to play, and have the OPPO play those instead of the Mac Mini playing them.)

The Asynchronous USB DAC Input goes *STRAIGHT* to the DACs for output on the 105. That means it bypasses all audio processing in the 105. In particular, there is no Crossover processing: The Subwoofer output in the multi-channel Analog set will be silent. The LF/RF outputs will be treated as LARGE and equidistant despite any settings to the contrary.

Meanwhile audio coming in on the HDMI Input is processed in all the normal ways in the 105.

I believe most folks using Audirvana on the Mac are doing so specifically to use the Asynchronous USB DAC Input.
--Bob
post #6000 of 10181
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Originally Posted by OPPOrtunist View Post

I notice that you have placed the Oppo on small square blocks. It would be interesting to learn what it is and what it does.

The blocks make it easier to dust underneath eek.gif
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