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post #6061 of 10058
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Originally Posted by a1usedcomp View Post

Okay problem solved , I sold the 5400 biggrin.gif I figure I don't need both and the 105 has a ton of features which I use , I can use the funds from the 5400 and purchase a Turntable
which will give me more options for finding music

All in now biggrin.gif I see you pulled a "Cortez" and burned your ships eek.gif No worries though , enjoy the new world smile.gif
post #6062 of 10058
The BDP-105 has eight inputs, i.e. BLU-RAY, FRONT HDMI, BACK HDMI, etc. Does anyone know of discrete IR codes for selecting each of these inputs?

The official Oppo list of IR codes only includes one for the INPUT button but not for selecting from the resultant list, which is not very helpful for setting up a programmable remote control.

David
post #6063 of 10058
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Originally Posted by haggis999 View Post

The BDP-105 has eight inputs, i.e. BLU-RAY, FRONT HDMI, BACK HDMI, etc. Does anyone know of discrete IR codes for selecting each of these inputs?

The official Oppo list of IR codes only includes one for the INPUT button but not for selecting from the resultant list, which is not very helpful for setting up a programmable remote control.

David

Not discrete codes, but see this: How do I select an INPUT source with a programmable remote?

-Bill
post #6064 of 10058
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Not discrete codes, but see this: How do I select an INPUT source with a programmable remote?

-Bill

Hi Bill,
Thanks for the rapid response. I'll check that out.

David

EDIT: The procedure described in that link seems to work fine. Thanks again.
Edited by haggis999 - 6/24/13 at 4:20pm
post #6065 of 10058
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Originally Posted by OPPOrtunist View Post

Yes, it is a sad story, but don´t blame the employees - it´s the system that is wrong. For good advice, one needs to find a specialist store, but they are an endangered species, since many prospective customers who visit them go home and buy on the Internet or from a discount outlet.

In my experience specialist stores are no better. Only the stuff they sell is worth having and anything they don't is junk.
post #6066 of 10058
Hello guys,

I'm having issues with my BDP-105 headphone outs. I'm getting really loud background hiss when using low impedance headphones like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 and ATH-AD 900x (38 ohms). With higher impedance (120 ohms) AKG K601 cans, the hiss is discernible but very low in level. Is this typical? I recently had my Oppo modded, though the headphone circuit wasn't touched and was left untouched.... but I'm sure that negates my warranty with Oppo.

Thanks in advance!
post #6067 of 10058
the store I was at in Toronto is a specialty store; with retarded sales guys

they sell expensive stuff like Runco Projectors, focal and other speakers that are 15K, etc

but they have little knowledge of any other products and yes anything they don't sell is garbage

unacceptable level of customer interaction; I would never spend 1 cent there
post #6068 of 10058
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Originally Posted by detroit1 View Post

the store I was at in Toronto is a specialty store; with retarded sales guys

they sell expensive stuff like Runco Projectors, focal and other speakers that are 15K, etc

but they have little knowledge of any other products and yes anything they don't sell is garbage

unacceptable level of customer interaction; I would never spend 1 cent there

I'm sure they get a nice commission on some of the stuff they sell.
post #6069 of 10058
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Originally Posted by ajayrav View Post

Hello guys,

I'm having issues with my BDP-105 headphone outs. I'm getting really loud background hiss when using low impedance headphones like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 and ATH-AD 900x (38 ohms). With higher impedance (120 ohms) AKG K601 cans, the hiss is discernible but very low in level. Is this typical? I recently had my Oppo modded, though the headphone circuit wasn't touched and was left untouched.... but I'm sure that negates my warranty with Oppo.

Thanks in advance!

 

Not typical at all. The headphone output is rated to drive a 32 ohm impedance as a minimum with an inaudible S/N ratio of greater than 98dB. I'm afraid something else is going on maybe related to the mod you had on the Oppo. Who did the mod btw? Did you get a chance to listen to the headphone output before the mods?

post #6070 of 10058

I have set the DTS Neo:6 surround mode in the Oppo to "Music". I have my speakers set to small with the xover set to 120Hz. When playing a stereo CD, I can't seem to get MCH output sound as expected on HDMI or 2-Ch analogs. My Anthem D2v pre-pro says its receiving L & R signals only. What am I doing wrong?

post #6071 of 10058
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I have set the DTS Neo:6 surround mode in the Oppo to "Music". I have my speakers set to small with the xover set to 120Hz. When playing a stereo CD, I can't seem to get MCH output sound as expected on HDMI or 2-Ch analogs. My Anthem D2v pre-pro says its receiving L & R signals only. What am I doing wrong?

I believe the DTS Neo only works on the multi-channel analog outputs only. It also doesn't work on the USB input via a computer. Doesn't your Anthem have some sort of digital processing equivalent to neo6?
post #6072 of 10058

Yes it does ... but you have to enable ARC, its DSP based room correction system. I'm running Analog-Direct and bypassing any processing in the Anthem.

 

I wasn't aware it works only on MCH analogs. All seems fine now. Thanks!

post #6073 of 10058
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Yes it does ... but you have to enable ARC, its DSP based room correction system. I'm running Analog-Direct and bypassing any processing in the Anthem.

I wasn't aware it works only on MCH analogs. All seems fine now. Thanks!

Here's my experience with getting multi-channel sound from 2-channel music: I tried the DTS Neo6 and didn't like it. I guess it works fine for some types of music, but not for the majority. The Oppo lacks any kind of control in DTS neo mode. You can either turn it on or off...no other settings. My work around was to feed the digital output (optical) of the Oppo to my McIntosh MX-119. When I want to turn two channel music into multi-channel, I switch inputs on my MX-119 to this optical input. The McIntosh has many different artificial surround modes and allows you to fine tune the music. This means varying the center width, rear balance, etc. In my opinion, this really helps fine tune the sound; and once it's tuned, it sounds much better than Neo6.

The McIntosh also does all of this in DSP. But my MX-119 is old and does not have ARC. Most pre/pros will let you turn off ARC and use other digital processing. You may want to check your Anthem's manual (or maybe others familiar with it can chime in).

I also have my Oppo connected to my MX-119 using the 5.1 analog outputs (2-channel direct and multi-channel). So when I want to listen to the the DAC's inside the Oppo, I just change the MX-119's input to the 7.1 multi-channel input (which bypasses all digital processing). This way you get the best of both worlds!
post #6074 of 10058
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I have set the DTS Neo:6 surround mode in the Oppo to "Music". I have my speakers set to small with the xover set to 120Hz. When playing a stereo CD, I can't seem to get MCH output sound as expected on HDMI or 2-Ch analogs. My Anthem D2v pre-pro says its receiving L & R signals only. What am I doing wrong?

DTS Neo:6 surrond sound processing only applies to the multi-channel Analog outputs. I've compared it to the surround sound options in the D2v and it is comparable, but of course it's nowhere near as nice as playing a true multi-channel mix.

Given that the audio is going to be processed anyway, I recommend you send the stereo audio to the D2v via HDMI instead, and process it there, since you'll have more flexibility to control how it is processed.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Leave DTS Neo:6 set to OFF in the OPPO except when you WANT to use it. Enabling it limits the sample rate of the digital audio signal path for 2 channel content -- both for digital output and what gets sent to the player's DACs -- to 44.1KHz or 48KHz depending on the original content rate.
--Bob
post #6075 of 10058
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Originally Posted by ajayrav View Post

Hello guys,

I'm having issues with my BDP-105 headphone outs. I'm getting really loud background hiss when using low impedance headphones like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 and ATH-AD 900x (38 ohms). With higher impedance (120 ohms) AKG K601 cans, the hiss is discernible but very low in level. Is this typical? I recently had my Oppo modded, though the headphone circuit wasn't touched and was left untouched.... but I'm sure that negates my warranty with Oppo.

Thanks in advance!

Hiss is often due to external interference. Start by unplugging anything you have attached to the OPPO (hard drives, Roku Streaming Stick ,etc.) and see if that makes the hiss go away.

A common source of hiss is RF interference from room lighting dimmers, perhaps in an adjacent room. To test that, shut off power to the dimmer (not just turn them all the way down). Dimmers often have "lamp change" cutoff switch to kill power when changing bulbs for example.
--Bob
post #6076 of 10058
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Originally Posted by ajayrav View Post

Hello guys,

I'm having issues with my BDP-105 headphone outs. I'm getting really loud background hiss when using low impedance headphones like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 and ATH-AD 900x (38 ohms). With higher impedance (120 ohms) AKG K601 cans, the hiss is discernible but very low in level. Is this typical? I recently had my Oppo modded, though the headphone circuit wasn't touched and was left untouched.... but I'm sure that negates my warranty with Oppo.

Thanks in advance!

This is an known (design) issue of the headphone circuit in Oppo 105. It does not work well with low impedance headphones. I have experienced the same. The hiss is the noise floor of the amplifier chip itself (not a special high end one...), which increasing when too low impedance is connected on outputs. My personal opinion about the high noise level on headphone output is that this output it is of an unacceptable quality level in a quite high end player... The fact is that this noise is hearable, no matter what is wrote down in the specifications.
The cure: do not use such headphones on this player or use an better quality headphone amplifier connected to its analogue (disponible) outputs. There is another cure as well: wait for the new (maybe improved) player edition/model will come out...wink.gif
Edited by Coris - 6/25/13 at 1:50am
post #6077 of 10058
Hmmm. Thanks guys. I think it may be a combination of hiss and interference. I can hear a low level hiss with my higher impedance headphones. Also when I turn the player on and it starts to initialize SACD playback, I can hear slight crackling static-like sounds through the headphones. Of course all of this is magnified tremendously with the lower impedance headphones. In either case, increasing the volume does not change the level of hiss. For me this is like the slight plasma buzz on my Pioneer Kuro TV. Now that I know it is there, it is very irritating!
post #6078 of 10058
Hate to admit it but I think my Fiio E9 (I think is the number) headphone amplifier sounds better than the headphone out of the 105. I think I will try a xlr to RCA cable from the 105 to the Fiio and see (or hear) what that sounds like
post #6079 of 10058
post #6080 of 10058
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Originally Posted by ajayrav View Post

Hello guys,

I'm having issues with my BDP-105 headphone outs. I'm getting really loud background hiss when using low impedance headphones like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 and ATH-AD 900x (38 ohms). With higher impedance (120 ohms) AKG K601 cans, the hiss is discernible but very low in level. Is this typical? I recently had my Oppo modded, though the headphone circuit wasn't touched and was left untouched.... but I'm sure that negates my warranty with Oppo.

Thanks in advance!

Are you using a powerboard with a good noise filter, or is this not relevant with the type of noise you are getting?
post #6081 of 10058
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Interesting http://lavryengineering.com/pdfs/lavry-sampling-theory.pdf

Interesting paper that need editing: In a heading, than when he meant then; in text, weather when he meant whether. Obviously there are those who will doubt his conclusions, but it is an impressive paper.

db
post #6082 of 10058
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

DTS Neo:6 surrond sound processing only applies to the multi-channel Analog outputs. I've compared it to the surround sound options in the D2v and it is comparable, but of course it's nowhere near as nice as playing a true multi-channel mix.

Given that the audio is going to be processed anyway, I recommend you send the stereo audio to the D2v via HDMI instead, and process it there, since you'll have more flexibility to control how it is processed.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Leave DTS Neo:6 set to OFF in the OPPO except when you WANT to use it. Enabling it limits the sample rate of the digital audio signal path for 2 channel content -- both for digital output and what gets sent to the player's DACs -- to 44.1KHz or 48KHz depending on the original content rate.
--Bob

 

This downrez is a bummer indeed ... thx Bob!


Edited by dmusoke - 6/25/13 at 4:55pm
post #6083 of 10058
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Originally Posted by detroit1 View Post

the store I was at in Toronto is a specialty store; with retarded sales guys

they sell expensive stuff like Runco Projectors, focal and other speakers that are 15K, etc

but they have little knowledge of any other products and yes anything they don't sell is garbage

unacceptable level of customer interaction; I would never spend 1 cent there
I've learned the lesson: you go to a store to buy their product. There is no other reason to be there because any information will be biased. It's up to the customer to find the information (hooray internet) that will enable a decision.
post #6084 of 10058
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Interesting http://lavryengineering.com/pdfs/lavry-sampling-theory.pdf

http://twit.tv/show/home-theater-geeks/164

You'll probably enjoy this, too.

Styln
post #6085 of 10058
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Originally Posted by Styln View Posthttp://twit.tv/show/home-theater-geeks/164 You'll probably enjoy this, too. Styln

Thanks, "science of the room" an hour, they could do without the adds!

post #6086 of 10058
XLR vs phono stereo output of BDP-105

My multichannel AV system and my dedicated stereo system share the same pair of large floorstanding KEF front speakers (these speakers are connected to the stereo system and the front L&R pre-outs from the AV amp are fed into my stereo pre-amp). The multichannel analogue outputs of my Oppo BDP-105 are used to drive the AV amp. This all works fine for movies but I now want to use the dedicated stereo output of the Oppo to drive my stereo system for when I am just playing music. In this scenario, I will not need to power up the AV amp.

However, my two systems are on opposite sides of my living room and it would take a cable run of about 8 - 10 metres to connect the Oppo to my stereo pre-amp. I now have to decide whether it is worthwhile to purchase an XLR to phono cable or just get a cheaper phono to phono connection. Is XLR worth the extra cost?

David
post #6087 of 10058
^Move your dedicated stereo amp closer to your Oppo. You're defeating the functionality/benefits of a balanced connection by attaching an unbalanced cable to it.
Edited by DanF8500 - 6/26/13 at 8:39am
post #6088 of 10058
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

^Move your dedicated stereo amp closer to your Oppo. You're defeating the functionality/benefits of a balanced connection by attaching an unbalanced cable to it.

Space restrictions mean that moving my stereo system is not an option.

I am a total newcomer to XLR connections and balanced cabling. I had read some comments about XLR to RCA cable connections on the Chord UK website but just assumed they were balanced cables (as they didn't state otherwise). Having now read a little more on this topic, my current understanding is that you only get a balanced connection if it is supported by the electronics at both ends (which would not apply in my case as my stereo pre-amp only has normal RCA phono inputs). Chord's comments on XLR to RCA cable connections also caused me to assume that they sold such cables within their generally very expensive XLR range. This is not the case.

Are you of the opinion that it would be totally pointless to use the XLR outputs of the Oppo in my situation? I have been using a high quality 8m RCA to RCA cable between my AV amp and stereo pre-amp for many years without any obvious problem.

David
post #6089 of 10058
^Yes, in your situation/setup, it is pointless. Using the shortest RCA cable possible would be your best option. Longer runs of rca cabling can pick up emi/rfi interference. You might hear this interference in quiet passages of your audio listening...it's in the background....the noise floor can become more audible than desired. A truly balanced (end to end) connection will not experience this interference.
post #6090 of 10058
Thanks for that. My Scottish upbringing means that I never like to spend money without a good reason!

I have never heard any interference with my existing 8m RCA connection and hope that this will also apply for my new RCA connection.

David
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