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Originally Posted by rhale64L7 View Post

Has anybody noticed a serious lip sync problem on all blue rays. I am having this issue on mine. I was watching bridesmaid s last night it was so bad it looked like a dubbed Japanese karate movie. Lol

Which firmware are you using? Check Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information for the Main firmware version.

I suggest you update to the Public Beta firmware released last night. It's Main version number will end 0719B. Download it from the OPPO web site for installation via USB stick:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-105/blu-ray-BDP-105-Support.aspx

NOTE: You must do a Reset Factory Defaults after installing this. A chance will be offered on the first power up after the install.

With that firmware, audio and video are correctly in sync at the player's outputs for Blu-ray playback. So if you are still seeing a sync error, it's time to start looking for causes external to the player. Report back and we'll have some suggestions for you.
--Bob
post #6362 of 10198
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Which firmware are you using? Check Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information for the Main firmware version. I suggest you update to the Public Beta firmware released last night. It's Main version number will end 0719B. Download it from the OPPO web site for installation via USB stick: http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-105/blu-ray-BDP-105-Support.aspx. NOTE: You must do a Reset Factory Defaults after installing this. A chance will be offered on the first power up after the install. With that firmware, audio and video are correctly in sync at the player's outputs for Blu-ray playback. So if you are still seeing a sync error, it's time to start looking for causes external to the player. Report back and we'll have some suggestions for you. --Bob

Why an other beta and not a public release, it has been three months now since the last public release! How long until we get the official release? Is this beta stable?
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Why an other beta and not a public release, it has been three months now since the last public release! How long until we get the official release? Is this beta stable?

What is the answer every time you ask this?

-Bill
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

What is the answer every time you ask this?-Bill

Who knows, when it's ready frown.giffrown.gif
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Thread Starter 
If there is something in the Beta Firmware you want to take advantage of, then upgrade the firmware. There is no reason to wait for an Official Firmware unless you are not able to transfer files to a USB drive or burn a CD.
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Okay so here goes guys...I have the Marantz PM-15S2 Limited Edition integrated stereo amplifier matched with Paradigm Studio 60 V3 and eventually upgrading to the Kef LS50s. I am running flac, alac, aiff files via Macbook Pro via USB to my Burson Audio Conductor which has the new ESS Sabre32 ES9018 Reference Chip. I am loving the sound so far. I have a Playstation 3 which I have not tried hooking up to my Burson Audio. Not even sure if it will work via optical input cause Burson makes you download drivers in your pc, otherwise it sounds all messed up. So what I want to to do is be able to hook up my PS3 for movies, cds, and dvds. Am I going to get the same kind of quality or at near the quality of a Oppo BDP-105? I have read the specs and read all the reviews which I am very impressed. Just wondering if I am truely going to really notice a 1200 dollar difference vs my setup if it works of course LOL. Any input guys?
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^ These are tough questions, but before anyone even takes a stab at it, I just want to make sure you know OPPO has an easy 30 day return policy if you buy direct from the OPPO Digital web site. So you can try the 105 with YOUR equipment and see what YOU think. If you are in the US, basically all you risk is the shipping costs.
--Bob
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It is nice that the OPPO bdp-105 has a dedicated 2 channel output using the built in dac and hdmi outs for video. Probably better this way than selecting my PS3 to play audio in 2 channel mode and running through my dac and then to my integrated amp or is that the same thing almost? Decisions, decisions, decisions...just trying to see if I could talk myself out of a 1200 dollar purchase. I do plan on buying the new PS4 or Xbox and thinking if I am being redundant.
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Who knows, when it's ready frown.giffrown.gif

I've learned and have accepted that when Oppo's cooking and they give you a taste (beta) your there to say its just right or needs more salt! Afterward I walk away until the diner bell rings or someone here says come and get it, that is unless your player lets you know when its ready! until then let that pot simmer something good always comes to the table.

Kudos to Oppo for letting us in on the process, don't go changing guys wink.gif
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

I've learned and have accepted that when Oppo's cooking and they give you a taste (beta) your there to say its just right or needs more salt! Afterward I walk away until the diner bell rings or someone here says come and get it, that is unless your player lets you know when its ready! until then let that pot simmer something good always comes to the table.
Kudos to Oppo for letting us in on the process, don't go changing guys wink.gif

Good points I always like the previews smile.gif
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Why can't the oppo bdp-105 do dsd over asynchronous USB

I am glad that I can now play dsf files drom a connected USBdrive.

However, the oppo's terrible music management interface (no smartlists, like J River) limits the utility of being able to play these files.

Being able to play these files over asynchronous USB would let me use J River to play these files.

I'm not sure why Oppo can't do this. Is there some technical limitation? If there is, how do you explain why Ayre is able to offer this on its DX5 model, which is based on an oppo bdp-83.

I have never received an explanation as to why this is not possible
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^ Have you asked OPPO?
--Bob
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Originally Posted by margolbe View Post

Why can't the oppo bdp-105 do dsd over asynchronous USB

Because Sony does not allow this. Sony owns the SACD standard and controls what can be sent over what kind of connection. DSD can only be sent over HDMI and not USB.
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^ These are not necessarily DSD files from an SACD disc.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by margolbe View Post

Why can't the oppo bdp-105 do dsd over asynchronous USB

I am glad that I can now play dsf files drom a connected USBdrive.

However, the oppo's terrible music management interface (no smartlists, like J River) limits the utility of being able to play these files.

Being able to play these files over asynchronous USB would let me use J River to play these files.

I'm not sure why Oppo can't do this. Is there some technical limitation? If there is, how do you explain why Ayre is able to offer this on its DX5 model, which is based on an oppo bdp-83.

I have never received an explanation as to why this is not possible

I'm with you on this! I'm the school that believes the best interface is a computer - so many choices on software (JRiver, Foobar, etc.) with excellent interfaces. If you ever call Oppo and find the answer, please post back.
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

Because Sony does not allow this. Sony owns the SACD standard and controls what can be sent over what kind of connection. DSD can only be sent over HDMI and not USB.

I don't believe DSD is owned by Sony. Sony owns SACD. I could be wrong though.
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I know you guys are all oppo fans but wondering how the wyred4sound dac 2se will stack up as far as the dac goes....
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Re: Oppo BDP-105 and DSF/DFF files:

As I said in my previous email, Ayre has found a way to do this. Why can't Oppo?

We are talking about dsf, dff computer files, which can now be played back only by an external drive connected by USB

This would be a big improvement. I doubt oppo will ever be as good as something like JRiver in terms of file management, so this would be the best of all possible worlds.
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

I don't believe DSD is owned by Sony. Sony owns SACD. I could be wrong though.

According to this Wikipedia article, the DSD format is jointly owned by Sony and Philips: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital

I keep forgetting about Philips being involved with Sony in the development of SACD as well as CD.
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Originally Posted by margolbe View Post

Re: Oppo BDP-105 and DSF/DFF files:

As I said in my previous email, Ayre has found a way to do this. Why can't Oppo?

We are talking about dsf, dff computer files, which can now be played back only by an external drive connected by USB

This would be a big improvement. I doubt oppo will ever be as good as something like JRiver in terms of file management, so this would be the best of all possible worlds.
Your statements are only partially true. You can play dff/dsf files on the Oppo via network interface also. I like the network interface the best....you don't need to have an htpc/laptop connected to the Oppo. I have a Synology NAS filled with all my audio/video files. Can the Ayre play audio files via a home network through a router? I like that the Oppo has this capability.
Edited by DanF8500 - 7/21/13 at 6:15pm
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You can play through the network interface, but you are still left with Oppo's crummy music management system -- not in the league of JRiver. If you are able to use asynchronous USB, you don't have to use Oppo's music management system but much more developed software.
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So Oppo and JRiver should hook up and provide hard drive control for the 105/3. Even if the next generation player, it would be like I-Audiophile!
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Originally Posted by margolbe View Post

You can play through the network interface, but you are still left with Oppo's crummy music management system -- not in the league of JRiver. If you are able to use asynchronous USB, you don't have to use Oppo's music management system but much more developed software.
You don't need to use asynchronous usb to use JRiver. I use that media software as a DLNA server. The Oppo becomes a DLNA renderer....all through the network interface. But since Oppo doesn't support dsd over dlna (DoP), we both need an alternative way to play our dsd media. You use a usb attached drive.....I use a network drive (NAS).
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Originally Posted by don480 View Post

I know you guys are all oppo fans but wondering how the wyred4sound dac 2se will stack up as far as the dac goes....


Subtle differences at most.
post #6384 of 10198
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Originally Posted by margolbe View Post

You can play through the network interface, but you are still left with Oppo's crummy music management system -- not in the league of JRiver. If you are able to use asynchronous USB, you don't have to use Oppo's music management system but much more developed software.
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I am speaking while having to admit total ignorance of the facilities provided by Jriver, and with having only occasionally accessed media files from my computer via the Oppo's wifi network, but I find with both directly attached USB drive (my standard method), and with accessing through the network, that if your media files (music or video or photographic), have been set up using smart organisation of folder and sub-folder structures, and use of the Oppos Page Up/Down button, that I can get to almost any music track(s) or video quite quickly . Especially when, if accessing to my computer via wifi network, I do so by scrolling down to the Oppo's "Folder" option in the search, rather than using the Artist, Genre, Composer etc options.

I should add that I am using the Oppo 95, not the 105 (sniff mad.gif). I don't know if there is a major difference in the file access interface between the two.

I have wondered what advantages there would be in going NAS, or Server, and would be quite happy to be educated in that regard, but am very limited in my savvy of how to set such things up. My PC is quite close to my music/home theatre setup, and I have wondered if a direct ethernet connection between my oppo and my computer is feasible, and if so, what advantages that would bring over simply sticking with a 2 Tb Hard Drive connected to the Oppo by USB.

But to get back to topic, I do wonder how much a lack of smart folder/sub-folder structuring, and lack of use of the Page Up/Down button on the Oppo remote, is the reason behind a lot of the complaints about the awkwardness of accessing one's digital media.

The only thing I really miss is a computer or media streamer's abilities to easily access, build and clear playlists. The Oppo can only play its own playlist, and that can only be changed by powering down and up again: there is no other way of clearing the playlist except track by track, which is painful. Nor does it allow building a playlist by album, only track by track. And I gather that is still true of the 103/105 ??
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I will try this new firmware tonight and I hope it fixes my issues.

Has anyone had severe NetFlix issues? I can be sure that every time I use Netflix, the Oppo will freeze. I just never know when it will freeze. Sometimes it will freeze when I open the Netflix application. Other times it will freeze after I have finished an episode and I try to go back to the main Netflix page, or select to play the next Netflix episode. I had zero problems with Netflix until the May firmware update. It was very stable before then. I have seen no indication of issues on my network side. I'm using a 5' Ethernet cable straight into my router.
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New beta firmware causes hard lock-ups necessitating power cycling when using smb.
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Wow eek.gif I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not . At the end or beginning for that matter, I heard no relay clicks from playing an sacd ? i do have the new beta installed and one more thing , I did a full reset to the player, but it still retained all my Netflix info ? I thought it was supposed to delete all account settings as it always did before ? I'll check out the streaming later tonight to see if indeed its become more stable, but not hearing the clicks is a bit unnerving as it assured me it was switching to the right decoding format but hey, if its silent and in the right mode then so be it smile.gif
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Originally Posted by darkphader View PostNew beta firmware causes hard lock-ups necessitating power cycling when using smb.

smb?

post #6389 of 10198
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View PostAccording to this Wikipedia article, the DSD format is jointly owned by Sony and Philips: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital  I keep forgetting about Philips being involved with Sony in the development of SACD as well as CD.

I wished I could rip SACDs in DSD on my mac :( I am not going to buy those DSD download I have over 200 SACDs multichannels

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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

New beta firmware causes hard lock-ups necessitating power cycling when using smb.

Do you have the ROKU Streaming Stick by any chance? I've seen one report that said SMB problems magically went away when he unplugged the stick, and that SMB still worked after re-inserting the stick (which causes it to reboot).

There's no logical reason why they should be connected, but just asking.



I'm also assuming you did the required Reset Factory Defaults after this firmware install.

If that's not it, then give OPPO a call and see what they can do for diagnosing this.
--Bob
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