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post #6601 of 10239
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Originally Posted by Process53 View Post

I'm getting the same experience running my motorola pvr to the 105 and then on to my tv. The 105 upscales the video from 1080i to 1080p. It is definitely a difference you can see.
Why would the resolution/picture be any different with the 105 doing the upscaling? A 1080p tv will convert any input to its native resolution, which would be 1080p. Can it be measured(visually?) that the 105 is capable of upscaling/de-interlacing better than one's tv can? I'm just playing the devil's advocate here. It's been many months since I fed my verizon fios dvr to my 105. I might have to test this myself again.
Edited by DanF8500 - 8/5/13 at 11:24pm
post #6602 of 10239
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Why would the resolution/picture be any different with the 105 doing the upscaling? A 1080p tv will convert any input to its native resolution, which would be 1080p. Can it be measured(visually?) that the 105 is capable of upscaling/de-interlacing better than one's tv can? I'm just playing the devil's advocate here. It's been many months since I fed my verizon fios dvr to my 105. I might have to test this myself again.

Interesting issue. I have spent some time trying to compare the picture quality when feeding my Cable TV box (outputting at 1080i) directly to the TV (Sony 2012 top-of-the range model) versus through my Oppo 103 - a little awkward since moving between the two results in a slight delay necessitated by moving the HDMI cable and switching inputs and thus precluding a direct A-B comparison. I found the result to be inconclusive - sometimes I felt the Oppo had slightly more vivid colours, marginally better definition and somewhat better motion smoothness but on other occasions I did not perceive any difference at all.
Edited by OPPOrtunist - 8/6/13 at 2:14am
post #6603 of 10239
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Why would the resolution/picture be any different with the 105 doing the upscaling? A 1080p tv will convert any input to its native resolution, which would be 1080p. Can it be measured(visually?) that the 105 is capable of upscaling/de-interlacing better than one's tv can? I'm just playing the devil's advocate here. It's been many months since I fed my verizon fios dvr to my 105. I might have to test this myself again.

I've tried this on the YES channel several times during Yankee games. My Panny GT50 doesn't upscale/de-interlace as good as my 105.
post #6604 of 10239
Google Chromecast working on 105? Please share your experience.
post #6605 of 10239
Anybody having a new problem with Western Difital 2 Tb hard drives?

Oppo fixed the problem where you needed to restart the unit to get the WD hard drive to work, with the new firmware this has been fixed, but now everytime I stop a movie that I am watching from the hard drive, the unit freezes and accepts no commands, this is worse that the previous problem, because now I can't navigate back and forth between my movies.mad.gif

I know Oppo takes care of things, but this has been one buggy machine, one way or the the other.
post #6606 of 10239
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Originally Posted by luismanrara View Post

Anybody having a new problem with Western Difital 2 Tb hard drives?

Oppo fixed the problem where you needed to restart the unit to get the WD hard drive to work, with the new firmware this has been fixed, but now everytime I stop a movie that I am watching from the hard drive, the unit freezes and accepts no commands, this is worse that the previous problem, because now I can't navigate back and forth between my movies.mad.gif

I know Oppo takes care of things, but this has been one buggy machine, one way or the the other.

I've been having problems with an attached 4TB Seagate drive (1.4TB of music only). When I move in and out of directories the Oppo freezes up. It also doesn't see all of my primary directories when using a 4TB drive. I copied it all to a Seagate 2TB drive and it sees all directories. Also, when using the iPad MediaController app., it doesn't list all sub directories (some of my primary directories have over 400 sub directories). I have the latest firmware loaded. I emailed Oppo... The unit sounds TERRIFIC but all of the bugs are getting exasperating. Next time around, I'm going to wait a year or two before buying a unit with 'new' features.
post #6607 of 10239
Anyone notice that the gaps between tracks played from an NAS are even longer now with the new firmware? I'm using a Lacie Wireless Network Space 2TB NAS and I don't use cue sheets because I'm holding out for them to either add branching cue sheet support or proper gapless, hopefully the latter. I also notice that Netflx streaming is broken. The audio playback in Arrested Development was playing through the wrong channels, and resuming a stopped or paused program would make the stream unable to get above 480p (I'm on a FIOS Quantum 75Mbps connection using Ethernet).
post #6608 of 10239
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by luismanrara View Post

Anybody having a new problem with Western Difital 2 Tb hard drives?

Oppo fixed the problem where you needed to restart the unit to get the WD hard drive to work, with the new firmware this has been fixed, but now everytime I stop a movie that I am watching from the hard drive, the unit freezes and accepts no commands, this is worse that the previous problem, because now I can't navigate back and forth between my movies.mad.gif

I know Oppo takes care of things, but this has been one buggy machine, one way or the the other.

Have you tried using an alternative USB port, such as the front USB?

Are you going through a switch, hub, or extension cable? Make sure you are direct connecting with a single ended cable.

If the drive is bus powered, try an AC powered drive.

Try an alternative drive.
post #6609 of 10239
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by woof07 View Post

I've been having problems with an attached 4TB Seagate drive (1.4TB of music only). When I move in and out of directories the Oppo freezes up. It also doesn't see all of my primary directories when using a 4TB drive. I copied it all to a Seagate 2TB drive and it sees all directories. Also, when using the iPad MediaController app., it doesn't list all sub directories (some of my primary directories have over 400 sub directories). I have the latest firmware loaded.

Are you using the same filesystem for both drives? Make sure both drives are the same parity by using NTFS or exFAT on both drives.

Are you sure all files and folders were copied, and that none of the files were left? Corrupt files or folders can affect the player's indexing of the drive.

If you reformat the 4TB drive and then transfer the files back to the drive, does the player now behave like the 2TB drive, or does it continue to misbehave?
post #6610 of 10239
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GoldenBoy View Post

Anyone notice that the gaps between tracks played from an NAS are even longer now with the new firmware?

Are you using DLNA or SMB? If the NAS is Wireless what happens if you use it Wired to your network?
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The audio playback in Arrested Development was playing through the wrong channels

How are you connected for audio and video? Can you use another device with Netflix and stream the same show and confirm the same results? What season and episode are you using to confirm this problem?
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and resuming a stopped or paused program would make the stream unable to get above 480p (I'm on a FIOS Quantum 75Mbps connection using Ethernet).

I have not experienced this issue. Try using an alternative DNS server on the player and see if the same errors persist.
post #6611 of 10239
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Why would the resolution/picture be any different with the 105 doing the upscaling? A 1080p tv will convert any input to its native resolution, which would be 1080p. Can it be measured(visually?) that the 105 is capable of upscaling/de-interlacing better than one's tv can? I'm just playing the devil's advocate here. It's been many months since I fed my verizon fios dvr to my 105. I might have to test this myself again.
My pvr outputs 1080i at best. If I connect it directly to my TV my TV says that it is outputting 108i. If I go through the 105 my TV says it is outputting 1080p. And I can definitely see the difference. It seems to me that my TV can only output what it is fed. It has no upscaling ability or I just don't have it configured properly.

Whether or not my TV will upscale doesn't matter to me because I still want to feed my pvr into the 105 to get the 5.1 analog audio out.
post #6612 of 10239
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Originally Posted by Process53 View Post

My pvr outputs 1080i at best. If I connect it directly to my TV my TV says that it is outputting 108i. If I go through the 105 my TV says it is outputting 1080p. And I can definitely see the difference. It seems to me that my TV can only output what it is fed. It has no upscaling ability or I just don't have it configured properly..

That is incorrect. If you have a plasma or LCD/LED, it will automatically upscale to its native resolution (I assume 1080p). What you are seeing displayed is the input resolution to the display (you are sending 1080i from the DVR to the TV and 1080p from the 105 to the TV). If going through the 105 looks better than going directly from the DVR to the TV, then the Oppo is just doing a better job upscaling than the TV. You are watching 1080p either way.
post #6613 of 10239
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

That is incorrect. If you have a plasma or LCD/LED, it will automatically upscale to its native resolution (I assume 1080p). What you are seeing displayed is the input resolution to the display (you are sending 1080i from the DVR to the TV and 1080p from the 105 to the TV). If going through the 105 looks better than going directly from the DVR to the TV, then the Oppo is just doing a better job upscaling than the TV. You are watching 1080p either way.
you took the words out of my mouth! I was just going to reply back to Process53 with the same answer!!
post #6614 of 10239
Is anyone else using the Android Remote Control app? I recently moved my BDP-105 into a closet along with all my other HT equipment. Hoping to use the android app to control. It works about 50% of the time. Each time it doesn't work I have to walk to the closet and restart the Oppo. Very annoying.
post #6615 of 10239
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

That is incorrect. If you have a plasma or LCD/LED, it will automatically upscale to its native resolution (I assume 1080p). What you are seeing displayed is the input resolution to the display (you are sending 1080i from the DVR to the TV and 1080p from the 105 to the TV). If going through the 105 looks better than going directly from the DVR to the TV, then the Oppo is just doing a better job upscaling than the TV. You are watching 1080p either way.
Ok - got it. And you are correct - I checked and the native resolution is 1080p. All I can say is the 105 is awesome.
post #6616 of 10239
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Have you tried using an alternative USB port, such as the front USB?

Are you going through a switch, hub, or extension cable? Make sure you are direct connecting with a single ended cable.

If the drive is bus powered, try an AC powered drive.

Try an alternative drive.

I'm using the front USB port and it is going directly from the HD to the Player. I will try another HD later on.
post #6617 of 10239
Well, I just tried another 2 tb hard drive from WD and the same thing happened, it freezes when you stop a movie and you have to turn it off and restart the unit.

Basically Oppo fixed a problem and created another one, I am frustrated and tired of this crap. mad.gif What's good about a unit that does so many things but gives you so much problems. The 95 was flawless handling hard drives of this size, but the the people at Oppo don't seem to get it right with this unit.
post #6618 of 10239

I am curious who has the best DACs?

 
1. OPPO BDP-105 (SABRE32 Reference ES9018 ) or
 
2. Yamaha RX-A3030 (ES9016 SABRE32™ Ultra DAC and ESS Technology ES9006 SABRE™ Premier Audio DAC)
 
According to this I guess the ES9018 sounds best?
 
 
 
 
ESS released new DACs. It looks like this will make it's way into the next Oppo BDP-115 later in 2014!
 

Edited by wse - 8/6/13 at 8:43pm
post #6619 of 10239
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

I am curious who has the best DACs?

 
1. OPPO BDP-105 (SABRE32 Reference ES9018 ) or
 
2. Yamaha RX-A3030 (ES9016 SABRE32™ Ultra DAC and ESS Technology ES9006 SABRE™ Premier Audio DAC)
 
According to this I guess the ES9018 sounds best?
 
http://www.esstech.com/?p=products_DAC
 
 
 
ESS released new DACs. It looks like this will make it's way into the next Oppo BDP-115 later in 2014!

 
Released June 2013: http://www.esstech.com/PDF/ES9018-2M%20PB%20Rev%200.8%20130619.pdf

Number one wink.gif
post #6620 of 10239
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by luismanrara View Post

Well, I just tried another 2 tb hard drive from WD and the same thing happened, it freezes when you stop a movie and you have to turn it off and restart the unit.

Basically Oppo fixed a problem and created another one, I am frustrated and tired of this crap. mad.gif What's good about a unit that does so many things but gives you so much problems. The 95 was flawless handling hard drives of this size, but the the people at Oppo don't seem to get it right with this unit.

Send OPPO the drive. They were able to fix issue with specific Western Digital drives because customers were willing to send their drives and allow OPPO to diagnose the problems. I personally do not experience any issues with stopping any user generated media with the BDP-103, 58-0719 Firmware, and my 1.5GB, 2TB and 3TB drives I usually use for product evaluation and testing.
post #6621 of 10239
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Are you using the same filesystem for both drives? Make sure both drives are the same parity by using NTFS or exFAT on both drives.

Are you sure all files and folders were copied, and that none of the files were left? Corrupt files or folders can affect the player's indexing of the drive.

If you reformat the 4TB drive and then transfer the files back to the drive, does the player now behave like the 2TB drive, or does it continue to misbehave?

I sent you a PM with details and copy of note I sent to Oppo.
post #6622 of 10239
Hi,
I guess this question has already been done in different forms already but I am not able to find the answer so I am posting it in the way I can explain myself at the best. smile.gif

I have a BDP-105 and a Denon 2313 AVR connected
the Denon is connected to the speakers

Assuming that I want to listen to 24bit 192kbs loseless FLAC files from my network (using Oppo BDP-105 player) at the best quality possible, which kind of settings should I "watch" in BDP (and Denon) in order to avoid any downsampling or recoding or digital-analogic re-encoding ?

Additonally, should I turn off all the audissey settings in Denon?

Thanks,
Matteo
post #6623 of 10239
Hello. I have a question about Speakers setup menu. Currently I only have 3 speakers due to limited funding. I have disabled the rest of the speakers except for: FL, FR, C. How do the .1 channel (bass), and the LS, RS played?

Will the sounds played at all to FL/FR/C that are currently enabled inside the Oppo Audio setup menu?
post #6624 of 10239
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Originally Posted by Matteo Barbieri View Post

Hi,
I guess this question has already been done in different forms already but I am not able to find the answer so I am posting it in the way I can explain myself at the best. smile.gif

I have a BDP-105 and a Denon 2313 AVR connected
the Denon is connected to the speakers

Assuming that I want to listen to 24bit 192kbs loseless FLAC files from my network (using Oppo BDP-105 player) at the best quality possible, which kind of settings should I "watch" in BDP (and Denon) in order to avoid any downsampling or recoding or digital-analogic re-encoding ?

Additonally, should I turn off all the audissey settings in Denon?

Thanks,
Matteo
Firstly, since your Denon avr doesn't have multi-channel, analog inputs, you'll be passing any multi-channel audio recordings from your Oppo to your Denon via hdmi, and letting your Denon do the digital to analog conversions. For all 2-channel, digital audio, you will use Oppo's dedicated analog audio section, and pass the left and right analog outputs, via rca connectors, to one of your 2ch Denon audio inputs. You'll need to use your own listening preference as to whether you think the Audyssey creates a better overall "sound". If it does, leave it on. I also read something about your avr that you have the ability to re-assign your amps for higher quality, 2 channel stereo playback. The Oppo won't downsample your flac files if you load them directly from a network drive or usb drive using Oppo's on screen software. If you're using DLNA media software on your pc computer to push flac files to the Oppo(as a renderer), then you'll have to be careful how you set your dlna media software's audio output format. Just set that to output the flac files without any transcoding.
Edited by DanF8500 - 8/7/13 at 10:12am
post #6625 of 10239
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Originally Posted by tdo722 View Post

Hello. I have a question about Speakers setup menu. Currently I only have 3 speakers due to limited funding. I have disabled the rest of the speakers except for: FL, FR, C. How do the .1 channel (bass), and the LS, RS played?

Will the sounds played at all to FL/FR/C that are currently enabled inside the Oppo Audio setup menu?
I'm not sure I completely understand your questions, but you cannot disable any of the Oppo's analog outputs. All the 105's analog outputs are active. If you don't want to use one of its outputs, don't connect an rca cable to it. If you're playing 2-channel digital audio, use Oppo's dedicated analog section for playback, not the multi-channel outputs. Plus, I don't think there's a multi-channel audio configuration allowing 2 front speakers plus a center speaker. If you had two front speakers and a sub, that would be configurable.
Edited by DanF8500 - 8/7/13 at 10:10am
post #6626 of 10239
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Send OPPO the drive. They were able to fix issue with specific Western Digital drives because customers were willing to send their drives and allow OPPO to diagnose the problems. I personally do not experience any issues with stopping any user generated media with the BDP-103, 58-0719 Firmware, and my 1.5GB, 2TB and 3TB drives I usually use for product evaluation and testing.

Thank you Neuromancer for trying to help me in this situation. Unfortunately, I don't see myself sending Oppo the hard drive where I keep videos of the Family to Oppo as it could get seriously damaged or lost. To be honest, I always expect products nowadays to have some bugs in them, especially products as "sophisticated" as the Oppo 105 bluray player implies to be, but I have to say, as good as this player is in many areas, companies like Oppo should not advertize their products to be compatible with everything you throw at them, when in fact, they are not. The consumer has become the ever-present beta tester and the industry counts on us to report all the problems to them, when they should be the responsible party to address these problems, I know that Oppo responds faster than most to solve the problems, but I shouldn't be part of the solution, other than reporting it to them. like everybody else here, I paid for my unit to be a functional one, and it is not my responsability to let any company know where they went wrong, it is in fact the other way around. I paid good money for a fully functional player as advertized, if it doesn't do its job 100% as claimed by the Company in question, they should list it as such, so that We all know that their players may work almost all the time but not always.

Again, thanks for your well intended responses and excuse my rant as it is directed at Oppo, and trust me, I rather have a unit that works 100% as I'm happy with almost everything else that Oppo has done, but watching MKV movies using a hard drive is a big sales point for this unit, and right now I'm using the player half as much, not to mention an old Oppo customer that's not too happy these days.
Edited by luismanrara - 8/7/13 at 10:27am
post #6627 of 10239
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

I'm not sure I completely understand your questions, but you cannot disable any of the Oppo's analog outputs. All the 105's analog outputs are active. If you don't want to use one of its outputs, don't connect an rca cable to it. If you're playing 2-channel digital audio, use Oppo's dedicated analog section for playback, not the multi-channel outputs. Plus, I don't think there's a multi-channel audio configuration allowing 2 front speakers plus a center speaker. If you had two front speakers and a sub, that would be configurable.


Thanks for your response. If you press the 'setup' button on your remote, then scroll down and go into Audio, then speakers configuration. That's how I disabled them.
post #6628 of 10239
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Originally Posted by tdo722 View Post

Thanks for your response. If you press the 'setup' button on your remote, then scroll down and go into Audio, then speakers configuration. That's how I disabled them.
Okay, I understand your question now, but I don't think I have the answer to your question. For the multi-channel analog outputs, in "speaker configuration", I see where you can set the "size" of a speaker to "off". In that case, the audio for the missing speakers is either redirected to the other active speakers or discarded if redirection is not possible. In your case with a FL/FR/C setup, I'm not sure what will happen..
post #6629 of 10239
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Okay, I understand your question now, but I don't think I have the answer to your question. For the multi-channel analog outputs, in "speaker configuration", I see where you can set the "size" of a speaker to "off". In that case, the audio for the missing speakers is either redirected to the other active speakers or discarded if redirection is not possible. In your case with a FL/FR/C setup, I'm not sure what will happen..
IIRC, isn't the center channel disabled when you have speaker management set to no surrounds? Seems I remember this being discussed on the 95 forum some time ago. Did they change the configuration software in the 105 to allow for this sort of thing?
post #6630 of 10239
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Firstly, since your Denon avr doesn't have multi-channel, analog inputs, you'll be passing any multi-channel audio recordings from your Oppo to your Denon via hdmi, and letting your Denon do the digital to analog conversions. For all 2-channel, digital audio, you will use Oppo's dedicated analog audio section, and pass the left and right analog outputs, via rca connectors, to one of your 2ch Denon audio inputs. You'll need to use your own listening preference as to whether you think the Audyssey creates a better overall "sound". If it does, leave it on. I also read something about your avr that you have the ability to re-assign your amps for higher quality, 2 channel stereo playback. The Oppo won't downsample your flac files if you load them directly from a network drive or usb drive using Oppo's on screen software. If you're using DLNA media software on your pc computer to push flac files to the Oppo(as a renderer), then you'll have to be careful how you set your dlna media software's audio output format. Just set that to output the flac files without any transcoding.

Thanks for your feedback!
Let me put some additonal questions / comments.
Why should I use RCA outputs instead of HDMI connection as for the multichannel sources?

I tried to listen to a track sampled in 24bit FLAC through the Oppo HDMI connnection (the file is on a Synology NAS).
What i noticed is that the AVR will play it as all other mp3 and standard flac files BUT at the beginning of the track will display on the front panel the message: "96khz"... which is the frequency of the 24bit flac file sample...
Still not sure it will take advantage of the 24bit encoding.
Thanks for the followup
Matteo
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