Official OPPO BDP-105 Owner's Thread - Page 25

Originally Posted by ehlarson 

Probably not. This model is really for people who want to hook up directly to amps or headphones and are looking for state of the art analog outputs derived from a variety of digital sources.

Originally Posted by pete6737 

Second, On my SACD Goodbye Yellow Brick Road I cannot access the hi rez tracks. The Oppo only shows CD, not SACD. I tried all other SACDs I own and this is the only one that won't find the SACD tracks...what can I do? Thanks

Originally Posted by wmcclain 

It helps to be as old as Bob: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perils_of_Pauline_%281914_serial%29

-Bill

Originally Posted by dmusoke 

Thanks Bill ...still don't get it. Oh well!

Originally Posted by srjohnson19 

Pete6737
I am having the same problems with a few SACD's as well. "Alison Krauss Live" will not read the SACD layer no matter how many times a power the unit on/off. I am sending Oppo an email to make them aware. Hopefully an update will alleviate the issue.

Originally Posted by wanthalf 

Hi, I have received my BDP-105EU with the multi-zone DVD and multi-region BD mod from Audiocom about a week ago, but I have had just about two days for some testing. Unfortunately I have no disks from other zones or regions at the moment, so that I cannot test this functionality. But there was some leaflet saying that the modified firmware is directed to some specific IP address for future updates, so I suppose it will require future firmware updates to actually be always modified and released by Audiocom first, in order to preserve this functionality...?

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Originally Posted by dmusoke 

Cool ... thx for the update. Have you noticed Secrets measured a THD+N spec for the headphone output as 0.009% yet Oppo lists it as < 0.001%? Do you know why it measures 9X worse than Oppo's spec?

Thanks,
David

Originally Posted by audioNeil 

I would guess that the sound quality would be good. No-one has addressed the problem of no audio sync delay on the analog outputs for video sources. How is the OPPO 105 going to know the video processing delay on my Pioneer Kuro plasma? Does it even set any audio delay by default on the analog outs? There are no settings for this. Without it, I would be rolling the dice to buy one as a pre/pro. Considering that this is the obvious use-case for this player, I can't believe that OPPO hasn't figured out a way to allow a user-set audio delay on the analog outputs (better yet -- make it selectable by input).

Originally Posted by djkiwi 

If people can't notice the difference between the BDP 105 and the Panasonic 500 then two things are going on:
1. Their sensory perceptions are incapable of differentiation.
This isn't meant as an insult. I've had friends and family members who haven't noticed any differences at all between components whereas some say the difference is "night and day". Lucky for the people that can't notice the difference as they can be happy with a ghetto blaster and save a ton of cash.
2. Their system is incapable of differentiation.
This could be due to a number issues. There are a lot of components between the source and the final sound heard by the listener and any can degrade the sound considerably.
The most common I've found is overly complex passive crossover networks which "filter" and degrade the sound sometimes rendering a very high quality source such as the Oppo to just "average". For example I have two systems. One is capable of taking full advantage of a very high quality source such as the Oppo 105 and the other is not. On the secondary system, the Oppo does sound a little better than some of the inferior dacs. On the main system, the differences are like "night and day". Also price has a sparse relationship to sound quality. I've heard a pair of $4000 single driver speakers sound much more "refined" than a pair of $180,000 speakers. So if you can't hear much difference between the Oppo and another DAC/squeezebox etc then don't blame the Oppo look elsewhere within the system...
Over the next few weeks, I'm going to do the following:
1. compare the Oppo to a variety of pre-amps in the $150-$15k range and decide whether the Oppo sounds better standalone or with a preamp.
2. Compare the Oppo to a variety of external DACs in the $500-$15k range to determine where the Oppo fits with differing priced dacs.
3. Compare a variety of amps with differing input impedance to determine whether it is a "true preamp". Despite the "theory" it should work, this needs real life testing as I've had mixed results in the past.
I hope other people post their comparisons on the above items as well so we can get a feel of where the 105 ranks in the grand scheme of things.
I've also found this unit needs quite a bit of burn in time. I've been burning this in 24/7 since I got it and it took a long time to settle down. Plugging it in on arrival and then firing off a review after an hour or so is doing this unit a disservice in my opinion.....

Originally Posted by pete6737 

Hello All,
Second, On my SACD Goodbye Yellow Brick Road I cannot access the hi rez tracks. The Oppo only shows CD, not SACD. I tried all other SACDs I own and this is the only one that won't find the SACD tracks...what can I do? Thanks

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Originally Posted by ehlarson 

Sure it matters. It must not drop packets. Otherwise you are good to go. Monoprice has Cat 5e cables starting at 55 cents depending on your required length that should comfortably fit this requirement. If you need something more than 100 meters then you might need something fancier.
Or you could go with one of the Denon AKDL1 cables. I strongly recommend reading the reviews of this cable on Amazon. The properties it possesses are truly mind boggling.

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau 


What's that ya say? Speak up! SPEAK UP!

Kid's today! Always MUMBLING!

And don't you kids go dissing Pauline. That gal had pluck! "Don't get it"? Sheesh! How could you not recognize probably the most iconic of the cliffhanger, movie serials? And now Secrets of Home Theater has brought back the serial genre in the guise of a player review! The 105 is strapped to the test bench. The mad scientists cackle gleefully as they approach with outstretched probes! How will OPPO survive? Be sure to see the next exciting episode!
--Bob

Originally Posted by ss3740 

Hello, I just ordered a OPPO 105 today, and I am wondering something on this " Burn In".. I was a mechanic for 25 years, and the "breaking in" of an internal combustion engine had as much to do with heat cycles, as it did run time. So I ask,
1)Exactly what burns them in?
2) Just powering them on?
3) Or do they have to be playing material?
4)Do they have to be "cycled" to burn them in. (Can you put a disk in them, put them on repeat and let them run for a week?) Or will you get the same outcome just leaving them powered on.

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau 

OPPO UK has now posted the PDF File Download link for the new, Hi-Fi News Magazine review of the BDP-105EU:

http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/UserFiles/Docs/PDF/HFN_Oppo%20BDP-105EU.pdf

AWARDED: Hi-Fi News Outstanding Product

HEADLINE: Blu-ray picture quality is stunning and SACDs a revelation in clarity


For subscribers, please note the comment in the Lab Report section stating that the full gamut of test results is available from the Magazine's download service. If we have any subscribers posting here who have access to that, please do report if you find any interesting nuggets!
--Bob

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau 

What's that ya say? Speak up! SPEAK UP!
Kid's today! Always MUMBLING!
And don't you kids go dissing Pauline. That gal had pluck! "Don't get it"? Sheesh! How could you not recognize probably the most iconic of the cliffhanger, movie serials? And now Secrets of Home Theater has brought back the serial genre in the guise of a player review! The 105 is strapped to the test bench. The mad scientists cackle gleefully as they approach with outstretched probes! How will OPPO survive? Be sure to see the next exciting episode!
--Bob

Originally Posted by ACabral 

Hello, I am new to this Forum.
I have a Pioneer BDP LX91 and O!play HD2 (to play high quality video files, mostly H.264 at 20-25Mbps). I want to upgrade the image quality of the O!play HD2 so I am considering buying the OPPO BDP-105 due to its file playing capability. Can anyone comment on the following comparissons:
1. The O!play vs the OPPO 105 for playing files
2. The Pioneer LX91 vs OPPO 105 for playing blue-ray
3. The Pioneer LX91 vs OPPO 105 for playing DVD
Thanks. Armando

Originally Posted by dmusoke 

Interesting that the reviewer gave the 105 a sound quality rating of 87 out of 100. The BDP-95 received an 85 rating. So, in his mind, its 2% better than the 95?

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau 

OPPO UK has now posted the PDF File Download link for the new, Hi-Fi News Magazine review of the BDP-105EU: http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/UserFiles/Docs/PDF/HFN_Oppo%20BDP-105EU.pdf AWARDED: Hi-Fi News Outstanding Product HEADLINE: Blu-ray picture quality is stunning and SACDs a revelation in clarity. For subscribers, please note the comment in the Lab Report section stating that the full gamut of test results is available from the Magazine's download service. If we have any subscribers posting here who have access to that, please do report if you find any interesting nuggets!--Bob

Originally Posted by wse 


Evaluating audio through the hdmi output is not any different from the hdmi audio output of the bdp-103.

What makes the bdp-105 special (and more expensive) is the use use of the ESS 9018 Sabre DACs which are used when using the analog outs. Especially the balanced XLR outs. Otherwise, the sound quality your are hearing is that of your sound processor doing the D/A conversion, not the Oppo.

The hdmi board and digital passthrough of signals is the same for both units, they only differ in their analog audio components.

Did anyone evaluate the sound quality produced by internal DACs of the bdp-105.

Originally Posted by wse 


Thank you for the link, interesting they give it 87% in sound quality! Not that great, so what receives 100% if anything?

Can you post the graphs

Originally Posted by Donloz 

Cat 5 or Cat 6, is only good up to 90 meters or 300 feet. After that you need to use fiber optics.

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau 

^ Don't be too hard on them. It looks like things got delayed by 2 days (based on Crutchfield in the US). And import processing delays into Canada are also kind of unpredictable.
--Bob