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post #7231 of 10166
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Originally Posted by NW. View Post

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

DVD-R should play no differently than any other DVD.

How long is the pause? Are you saying the player locks up and has to be restarted?

Is this not happening with normal DVDs?

-Bill

It happened three times recently. The first time I tried various buttons on the remote, including >> and >>|, and the movie jumped ahead about a minute after some fiddling. The second time trying various things didn't do anything (I think I tried to open the drawer, but I don't have a clear memory of it right now) and after waiting a bit I was able to power off the machine using the "POWER" control on the remote. The third time - and this is when I advanced the movie to the same location it happened in the second time just mentioned - I did nothing and the movie resumed eventually (30/45/60 seconds?) without intervention.

I can't recall this happening with regular DVDs on the BD-105 and I've played many more regular DVDs that DVD-Rs. The power button did work in the second example I gave so the player wasn't totally locked up. The first two discs in the set played without problem and I've played at least one other set of DVD-Rs from Warner Brothers without problem.

To summarize, I needed to restart the BD-105 one of the times, but it didn't require a power cord pull. Also, I don't know what would have happened if I just did nothing. In the future I'll give it several minutes before I try to intervene.

This appears to be disc read error recovery. The player is searching forward trying to find something it can read. Since you are not seeing the problem on commercially recorded shiny discs it would appear the player is having trouble reading your recorded DVD-R discs.

Where are you getting these Made On Demand discs? I play a fair number of DVD-R MODs as rentals from ClassicFlix and have not had any problems. But if you are getting discs at a store that are burned in a machine "while you wait", the machine producing those may be screwing up the disc writing process (burning at too high a speed for example).
--Bob
post #7232 of 10166
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Originally Posted by patchesj View Post

I think I've discovered the one feature that prevents the 105 from becoming a full replacement to my prepro... 12v trigger out. Any thoughts? Manually flipping the power on all of those amps gets old.

I had the same concern when planning my system - powering up four different amps directly fed from the 105. But I found that many surge protectors that I was considering for my system (Furman, Panamax, etc) also included 12V trigger outputs along with delayed turn on. When I turn on my power center, some amps directly connected are powered on, others plugged into the high current outlets are turned on after a delay, and still others powered through a separate surge protector could use the 12V trigger output to turn on.

The other possibility is to use a sequencing device with audio inputs. My Parasound Scamp has audio input triggers with adjustable sensitivity and standard 12V trigger outputs - this would have no possible effect on audio quality and no current limiting concerns, but no surge protection either.eek.gif
post #7233 of 10166
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

That sounds like bad discs, but if you are seeing more than one or if the discs play on other players, then the player may need to be serviced. Contact OPPO support and see if they have diagnostic or cleaning recommendations. It might be just some fluff on the laser head.

-Bill


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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

This appears to be disc read error recovery. The player is searching forward trying to find something it can read. Since you are not seeing the problem on commercially recorded shiny discs it would appear the player is having trouble reading your recorded DVD-R discs.

Where are you getting these Made On Demand discs? I play a fair number of DVD-R MODs as rentals from ClassicFlix and have not had any problems. But if you are getting discs at a store that are burned in a machine "while you wait", the machine producing those may be screwing up the disc writing process (burning at too high a speed for example).
--Bob

I don't have a second machine set up, but I'll attach another player if I continue to have the problem. However, the only other players I have are DVD players.

I bought the set from Amazon ( http://www.amazon.com/Philo-Vance-Murder-Case-Collection/dp/B00BBI7EZY/ ). It's part of the Warner Archive program ( http://shop.warnerarchive.com/ ).

Can this kind of disc read recovery error cause a problem with the player? That is, is it at all harmful to wait for a couple of minutes when this happens to see if it fixes itself?
post #7234 of 10166
^ No it is not harmful. It's no more strain on the machine than normal playback. The player is just working through different strategies to try to find the next portion of the disc that's readable again.

If you get in touch with OPPO Tech Support, they may have some additional suggestions to try. They might also ask you to loan them the problem discs so they can try them in the lab and see what's up. Be sure to tell them what time code you are at when the disc reading starts to have problems. They'll return them of course. If they find the discs work in the lab, then they'll probably want to get your 105 back for Warranty repair.

Reading such discs on a DVD player is done differently than what happens on a Blu-ray player, but if you have a DVD player you can hook up as a test, by all means do so. If the discs fail to play on that as well then the odds are excellent you just got discs from a bad batch. Amazon will replace them. If the discs DO play on your DVD player they still might give a Blu-ray player fits. And that's what OPPO would likely want to check with your discs in their lab.

If you can try them on another Blu-ray player that also plays DVD-R discs (perhaps at a friend's house), that would be the best way to check if the purchased disc's are just flat-out unreadable.
--Bob
post #7235 of 10166
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Originally Posted by NW. View Post

Can this kind of disc read recovery error cause a problem with the player? That is, is it at all harmful to wait for a couple of minutes when this happens to see if it fixes itself?

Not at all.
If you have a DVD burner in your PC, there's the option of trying to burn a fresh copy of the problem disc. You can also sometimes diagnose reading issues on a PC drive by doing what's called a transfer rate test.

The Oppo is reasonably forgiving of poorly burned recordable discs, but when it does have problems it tends to drop the ball pretty spectacularly. Your situation is an example.
post #7236 of 10166
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Originally Posted by NW. View Post

Can this kind of disc read recovery error cause a problem with the player? That is, is it at all harmful to wait for a couple of minutes when this happens to see if it fixes itself?

I have one of the Warner Archive discs you are having problems with and it plays fine on my 105. Check first to see if there are thumbprints or dirt on the disc. Often just cleaning a disc will eliminate such problems. If that doesn't do it, contact Oppo. As already stated your player may need service.
post #7237 of 10166
Thank you Bill, Bob, JazzGuyy, and rdgrimes. I've examined the disc and there seems to be some sort of scuff mark arc on it. I'll see if I can remove it and then try replaying the disc. If I have the same problem I'll take the disc to a friend's house and try it in a different Blu-ray player. Meanwhile, I guess I should take a look at the other DVD-R sets I bought at the same time when the price went down.


I'll start looking at my CDs, DVDs, and Blu-rays more carefully before playing them. Sometimes I give them glance, but I mostly just pop them in and play them.
post #7238 of 10166
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Originally Posted by patchesj View Post

In the past I have adjusted the gains on my amplifiers to produce ref level sound in the room at -0. I don't think I've ever actually listened to anything that loud.. I should be able to acheive the same sound levels with the oppo by making the same setup, right?

For music, my main speakers can handle full range just fine so I'm not worried about losing crossover. The front 3 are also set within an inch or so distance wise from my main listening position, delay shouldn't be a problem either, except for the rears. I'm not sure what the "standard" distance adjustment would be in a mulitchannel SACD recording. In any case, most of the disks I listen to just have background information in the rear channel. When I listen to SACD on my current setup, the PR-SC885P in direct mode skips all crossover/delay adjustments as well.

My top concern is the dreaded DSD to PCM conversion, and it sounds like the ES9018 has some magic smoke in there to allow for DSD level control without PCM.


I tried using the BDP-105 as the central hub for my system. I would love to simplify. The audio using XLR's direct to power amplifiers was great. The volume control worked in a reasonable range.

I found the setup unacceptable however for several reasons:

I was also trying to use the BDP-105 to handle HDMI inputs for video and connect to my TV. The BDP-105 had a lip-sync issue which made this setup unsuccessful. I guess the issue has been fixed but it lasted for many months and I gave up.

At least in the past, resetting the BDP-105 to factory defaults changed the volume level to 100%. OPPO warns of this but it is still very dangerous for one's speakers since it is far to easy to forget that the volume has changed.

The BDP-105 really isn't flexible enough to replace a pre/pro. For example, it wouldn't retain which HDMI input I had selected when I turned it off. I finally decided I was dreaming and purchased a Marantz AV8801 which I like very well. I use the XLR outputs from the BDP-105 through the Marantz using Direct or Pure Direct and the sound is great. The BDP-105 is worth the money just for the quality of its DAC's and analog outputs.
post #7239 of 10166
Hi everyone

I was wondering if anybody is having the same odd issue with their BDP-105 that I have just come across.

I have my 105 directly connected to power amps.

I only use analog connections. HDMI output for sound is disabled.

I listen to a lot of SACD. If playing a stereo SACD or the stereo layer of a stereo/multichannel SACD I have the 105 in DSD mode.

I have downloaded a few stereo dsf and dff files and when I play them with the same settings (with all the power amps on) I get sound from the left front, right front and the right rear (the right rear channel seems to be the same as the right fore channel)

I have also recently purchased an early model PS3 and have been playing around with it (and get the same result with stereo dsf and dff fles) from it (sound from 3 channels)

If I change the 105 settings to PCM mode I get sound from left and right front channels (and not the right rear)

Listening to stereo SACDs in either mode I get sound in the 2 front channels and not the right rear as well

I prefer to use the 105 in DSD mode for stereo (but I do use PCM mode for multichannel to use base management).

Is this a bug with the 105? Is it processing these files wierdly? Or is there something wrong with my dsf and dff files?

I am in Australia, and on firmware 10XAU-58-0719

Any help is appreciated


Tony
post #7240 of 10166
Got the oppo 105 player this morning. I had to go into the office so I didn't get to play with it to much. 2 things I noticed right away.

The roku stick that came with it didn't turn on when plugged into the back. Is there something I need to set so it works thru the back or it just won't. Worked in the front. I had the extension from my chromecast so I sorta tucked it under the box so it doesn't stick out.

Also the roku stick color looked really off. Netflix thru the oppo looked great. Netflix thru the roku stick wasn't nearly as good. Do I need to calibrate the hdmi inputs? or is the roku stick just not as good as my old roku?

Also when I selected inputs I saw that the hdmi outs where on the input list. So does this mean I can use one of the outputs as a input. Be great to plug my xbox into it.

Thanks in advance and I will be spending the weekend setting it up.
post #7241 of 10166
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Originally Posted by turboman808 View Post

...Also when I selected inputs I saw that the hdmi outs where on the input list. So does this mean I can use one of the outputs as a input. Be great to plug my xbox into it.

Thanks in advance and I will be spending the weekend setting it up.
The hdmi outs are on the list for the ARC (audio return channel) functionality. Not for the selection of output video. The 105's outputs are always active. You can, however, turn off hdmi audio on the 105 if you desire.
Edited by DanF8500 - 9/20/13 at 10:26am
post #7242 of 10166
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Originally Posted by turboman808 View Post

Got the oppo 105 player this morning. I had to go into the office so I didn't get to play with it to much. 2 things I noticed right away.

The roku stick that came with it didn't turn on when plugged into the back. Is there something I need to set so it works thru the back or it just won't. Worked in the front. I had the extension from my chromecast so I sorta tucked it under the box so it doesn't stick out.
Only the front HDMI input is MHL capable, so the Roku Stick has to go in the front.
post #7243 of 10166

So Oppo is releasing an OPPO BDP-103D but no BDP-105D :(

 

I hope they offer an upgrade path, send them an email if interested

 

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/darbeevision-licenses-visual-presence-to-world-class-blu-ray-maker-1831029.htm

post #7244 of 10166
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

So Oppo is releasing an OPPO BDP-103D but no BDP-105D frown.gif

OPPO has not said one word about what they are or are not going to do.

-Bill
post #7245 of 10166
Quick Q: Has anyone else found they cannot exit the YouTube app - once in it? I just fired up my new 105 today for the first time - updated to the latest firmware and started trying out a few things. For the heck of it - I sparked up the YouTube app and once inside of it - there was no way (or remote key) to get back to Home...had to power the unit right off to get out.

Am I missing something?

VP
post #7246 of 10166
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Originally Posted by Vocalpoint View Post

Quick Q: Has anyone else found they cannot exit the YouTube app - once in it? I just fired up my new 105 today for the first time - updated to the latest firmware and started trying out a few things. For the heck of it - I sparked up the YouTube app and once inside of it - there was no way (or remote key) to get back to Home...had to power the unit right off to get out.

Am I missing something?

VP

The Return key and then the Home key on the remote works for me.

David
post #7247 of 10166
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Originally Posted by haggis999 View Post

The Return key and then the Home key on the remote works for me.David

I Hit Return like 20 times and went nowhere...will try Return + Home as see what happens...

Next Q: Anyone using the 105 with a Harmony Touch remote - or any Harmony Remote - I am struggling with which entry in the Logitech database is the one that actually works with this remote.

Cheers,

VP
post #7248 of 10166
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Originally Posted by Vocalpoint View Post

I Hit Return like 20 times and went nowhere...will try Return + Home as see what happens...

Return only gets you back to the first YouTube screen. You then have to click the Home button.

David
post #7249 of 10166
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

OPPO has not said one word about what they are or are not going to do.

-Bill

No upgrade path ;( that's a bummer!

Hopefully the BDP-115 will have darbee + DIRAC with HDMi 2.0
post #7250 of 10166
^ You are too quickly bummed out. Why don't you wait for OPPO to actually announce something instead of getting all frustrated based on no information from them at all?

There will be plenty of time to vent your frustration AFTER OPPO announces whatever they are going to do next. Doing it now, before they've said ANYTHING, seems rather pointless.
--Bob
post #7251 of 10166
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Originally Posted by Vocalpoint View Post

Quick Q: Has anyone else found they cannot exit the YouTube app - once in it? I just fired up my new 105 today for the first time - updated to the latest firmware and started trying out a few things. For the heck of it - I sparked up the YouTube app and once inside of it - there was no way (or remote key) to get back to Home...had to power the unit right off to get out.

Am I missing something?

VP

The normal way to exit the Internet apps is Home Button.

For most of the apps, Return will only take you up as far as the top level UI of the app itself, to keep you from accidentally exiting the app if you press Return one time too many.

For the Roku Streaming Stick, Home Button takes you to the top level of the Stick's UI (its Channel List). Do that to exit whatever Roku streaming you might be doing in whatever Channel you are viewing, then use the Input button to select Blu-Ray Player to exit the Roku entirely.
--Bob
post #7252 of 10166
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ You are too quickly bummed out. Why don't you wait for OPPO to actually announce something instead of getting all frustrated based on no information from them at all? There will be plenty of time to vent your frustration AFTER OPPO announces whatever they are going to do next. Doing it now, before they've said ANYTHING, seems rather pointless.
--Bob

Good point, I just feel like I just purchased the BDP-105 and already it is outdated so that is very frustrating!

I don't mind replacing the OPPO every two years but very six months leaves a bad taste in my mouth that' s all ;(
post #7253 of 10166
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Good point, I just feel like I just purchased the BDP-105 and already it is outdated so that is very frustrating!

I don't mind replacing the OPPO every two years but very six months leaves a bad taste in my mouth that' s all ;(

LOL - I was just thinking...crap I don't even have it paid off yet, and it's already being phased out!?

It's cool, this is the *best* sounding player I've ever had. *very* happy with it.

Technology moves quickly...if you wait for the next best thing to come out, you'll never enjoy what's right here in front of you.
post #7254 of 10166
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Good point, I just feel like I just purchased the BDP-105 and already it is outdated so that is very frustrating!

I don't mind replacing the OPPO every two years but very six months leaves a bad taste in my mouth that' s all ;(
Welcome to the world of consumer electronics. With regards to the 105....isn't it almost 1 year old? The big tv companies (samsung, panasonic, etc..) put out new tv's every year. Apple is creating new smartphones/pc's/iPads even faster. Why can't a blu-ray/media player company do the same?
Edited by DanF8500 - 9/21/13 at 8:36pm
post #7255 of 10166
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Good point, I just feel like I just purchased the BDP-105 and already it is outdated so that is very frustrating!

I don't mind replacing the OPPO every two years but very six months leaves a bad taste in my mouth that' s all ;(

I love the 105 and I won't be replacing mine until the next disc format comes out - it does everything that I want it to except maybe Dolby Pro Logic II and that might come in a firmware upgrade.
post #7256 of 10166
Seems like the stand alone Darbee would work the same and provide enhancement to all sources that are fed to it. If you already have the Darbee I see this upgrade as not needed. I'll wait for the next major update.
post #7257 of 10166

Next major upgrade for the BDP-105 hopefully will include

 

- Darbee

- DIRAC

- 4K Blu Ray

- HDMi 2.0

- Aluminum Drawer

- Support for Dolby ATMOS....

post #7258 of 10166
Best AVRs for Oppo105?

I want to upgrade to the 105 but my current AVR does not have any analog Inputs. SO I will need to upgrade my AVR. Please suggest any AVRs which are good matches. Oh and if it is allowed, please mention any AVRs to avoid...
Thank you.
post #7259 of 10166
Can't make any specific recommendations but a lot of AVRs these days have no analog inputs. You generally have to get into the $1000+ ones for analog inputs to be present and be decent. You probably want to look at AVRs like the better Denons, Pioneers, Yamahas and maybe Onkyos and the Cambridge Audio, Anthem and NAD units, if your budget goes that far.
post #7260 of 10166
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Originally Posted by Nuro View Post

Best AVRs for Oppo105?

I want to upgrade to the 105 but my current AVR does not have any analog Inputs. SO I will need to upgrade my AVR. Please suggest any AVRs which are good matches. Oh and if it is allowed, please mention any AVRs to avoid...
Thank you.

My $0.02:
If you're buying a new AVR, skip the 105 and get a 103 then use the extra money to get a better AVR and maybe upgrade speakers too.
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