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post #7441 of 10143
For watching movies I have a soundbar with a passive subwoofer now. More I don´t need anymore (at the moment) smile.gif
post #7442 of 10143
Didn't mean to derail the thread into 2-channel vs. multiple. Just wanted some advice on the best 105 settings for what I will be trying to accomplish. (Frankly, when it comes to movies, I feel anything other than low end is gimmickry unless there's an image surrounding me along with the sound. But it's all a matter of taste, of course.)

So, anyone out there able to advise me on the stereo-only settings in the set-up I described? See post 7435. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post

Didn't mean to derail the thread into 2-channel vs. multiple. Just wanted some advice on the best 105 settings for what I will be trying to accomplish. (Frankly, when it comes to movies, I feel anything other than low end is gimmickry unless there's an image surrounding me along with the sound. But it's all a matter of taste, of course.)

So, anyone out there able to advise me on the stereo-only settings in the set-up I described? See post 7435. Thanks in advance.
For a simple setup just plug oppo hdmi 1 or 2 to your tv and analog out to your power amp (either the xlr or rca out).
Just make sure that oppo volume is turned down if you do not have any preamp in between because oppo volume is by default at 100%

Most of the other default are fine.
post #7444 of 10143
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Originally Posted by tranle View Post

2- center speaker as most of the dialg goes there, unless you front speaker that are perfect in the midrange.

What front speakers have perfect midrange?
post #7445 of 10143
Thanks. Was looking at the manual and it seemed as though defaults are the obvious place to start. Just need to either set up ARC or use an optical cable to feed audio that originates in the TV (Amazon, etc.) to the Oppo.
post #7446 of 10143
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ You only need the latest update. An update contains a few, separately installed parts, so those instructions simply insure that you've got all the parts of the single update. Usually one install pass will get you all you need.

The release notes for the firmware on OPPO's Support page for the 105, shows the version numbers for each of the parts. By checking in Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information you can satisfy yourself that the parts are all up to date after the install.

By the way, although that 0719 firmware you found is indeed the latest "Official" firmware for the 105, there's a newer, 0808B Public Beta firmware available from that same Support page which includes some additional bug fixes.

There have also been indications from OPPO that another firmware release will be out before the end of October.
--Bob

Thank you, Bob.


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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post

I'm expecting delivery tomorrow of my 105, and have a couple of questions re set-up. I've read through this and the 105 audio thread, and needless to say, my head is starting to spin.

Here goes:

My system is very simple: stereo-only, Adcom pre-amp; Carver power amp; "antique" ADS-Braun full-range bookshelf speakers filled out with a Carver subwoofer. Recently got a Vizio 60" TV. Comcast Xfinity STB.

I plan on running STB in native mode HDMI to 105 (STB audio set to LPCM); 105 HDMI 1 out to TV; dedicated 105 stereo out to Adcom preamp (no direct to amp for now--need to keep my turntable in system). Intend on ARC set up to access audio from TV internal Wifi apps/streaming and possibly audio from Wii.

I have no interest in expanding audio beyond my old-fashioned 2 channel stereo.

Assuming I keep my STB feeding LPCM audio, is there anything about this set-up I need to be wary of? Do I need to set up the 105 audio out to down-mix mode? Is there any advantage in my system to changing the STB audio mode and using a different setting in the 105??


FYI never even owned a Blu-Ray player before; intend on using the 105 for that purpose, DVD, SACD, CD, and some music streaming over my LAN. I'm an ex-recording engineer that prefers things simple and analog.


Thanks very much!

If you intend to listen to DSD from one of your SACDs then you'll need to make sure you don't have an active HDMI connection to a device that can't handle DSD. In my case I have HDMI1 connected to my TV. Since I generally listen to Blu-ray and DVD sound through my TV I have HDMI sound on. In this case I can only get PCM from the SACD. To get DSD I need to set HDMI sound off (Setup Menu-->Audio Format Setup-->HDMI Audio-->Off) and set SACD Output to DSD (but if HDMI sound isn't off in my setup PCM will be out put overriding the DSD setting). Opinions vary as to whether DSD is better than PCM. Also on the Audio Format Setup menu is HDCD Decoding. If you have any HDCDs you will want to set this to On.
post #7447 of 10143
I have the 103 with HDMI2 going to my Integra DHC80.3 and HDMI1 to my Sony TV. When I play SACDs they show up as DSD and I have made no settings in the Oppo.
post #7448 of 10143
what's current stance on the region free 105's being sold?
post #7449 of 10143
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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post

Thanks. Was looking at the manual and it seemed as though defaults are the obvious place to start. Just need to either set up ARC or use an optical cable to feed audio that originates in the TV (Amazon, etc.) to the Oppo.

paul54, I asked very similar questions starting at post 7358 and got some very good advice.  I have a similar setup to you.

 

Colin

post #7450 of 10143
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Originally Posted by frederick184 View Post

paul54, I asked very similar questions starting at post 7358 and got some very good advice.  I have a similar setup to you.

Colin

Colin,

Thanks. Just went back and re-read the relevant posts. That will help. Did you change your setting to Stereo Down Mix in the "correct" menu for stereo use? Did it change the way the system sounded?



FYI I have also noticed that my cable box has a setting that "equalizes" (as in makes the same volume, not as in applying frequency-specific distortion) the different Dolby cable outputs. Not sure (yet) if this will have any affect if I am set to pass-through on the box rather than stereo or auto. Of course, I'm going to try to have the Oppo do as much of the work as possible.

Tonight I'll try to get things set up and running...
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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post


Colin,

Thanks. Just went back and re-read the relevant posts. That will help. Did you change your setting to Stereo Down Mix in the "correct" menu for stereo use? Did it change the way the system sounded?



FYI I have also noticed that my cable box has a setting that "equalizes" (as in makes the same volume, not as in applying frequency-specific distortion) the different Dolby cable outputs. Not sure (yet) if this will have any affect if I am set to pass-through on the box rather than stereo or auto. Of course, I'm going to try to have the Oppo do as much of the work as possible.

Tonight I'll try to get things set up and running...

I did change the setting in the correct menu and the sound became fuller but I gotta say it still sounds a little thin.  I think I may try taking the optical or spdif out of the cable box instead of using hdmi for audio and see if that makes a difference.  I too would prefer that the Oppo do as much of the work as possible.  

 

Colin

post #7452 of 10143
Hey guys I have a question about flacs,

when I connect hard drive to oppo it reads and plays nicely but I'm not able to see it while browsing from NAS drive,

I can only see MP3s.

Please advice me because most of my collection is on NAS.

Thanks
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Thread Starter 
Make sure you are trying to access the NAS using SMB and not something like DLNA. DLNA may be hiding the file types due to MIME settings.
post #7454 of 10143
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Originally Posted by filjosh View Post

Hey guys I have a question about flacs,

when I connect hard drive to oppo it reads and plays nicely but I'm not able to see it while browsing from NAS drive,

I can only see MP3s.

Please advice me because most of my collection is on NAS.

Thanks

To add to the response from Neuromancer, I have just noticed that DSM (the operating system for my Synology NAS) allows for customised MIME settings in case a DLNA renderer struggles with DSM's default MIME settings and needs some help in identifying file formats. I don't have any need to use this as my Oppo has no problem accessing FLAC files stored on my Synology NAS via DLNA but perhaps your NAS is different and could benefit from customised MIME settings.

David
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Soon new update for the BDP-105?

post #7456 of 10143
David what model Synology do you have? It works really well with the Oppo?
post #7457 of 10143
Did one of the firmware updates change the 105's 3D behavior? Last night I put in Star Trek Into Darkness 3D and received a message that my system wasn't capable of 3D. Tried the few other 3D discs I have with the same result. My setup is splitAV, with HDMI PCM audio into an older (non-3D) Denon receiver and HDMI video direct to a 3D-compatible JVC projector. Previously (maybe 6 months ago) I was able to play 3D with the 105 in "Auto" 3D mode. Last night I had to select "Forced" 3D mode to make it work. Also had to play a bit with audio settings to get audio from the receiver in "Forced" mode (believe blanking HDMI video for the 105's HDMI Out to the receiver was the step that got the audio working).

I was able to get it all working after fiddling around with settings for a while, but I am curious why the auto 3D setting no longer appears to operate as it used to.

Cheers,

Mike
post #7458 of 10143
Hi Lotus00,
I have a couple of Synology DS412+ NAS boxes. One is my media server and works perfectly with my Oppo. The other NAS simply backs up the media NAS and is located in my garage, which is a separate building from my house and thus a separate fire zone. I'm a bit paranoid about backup!

David
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David;

 

I have the DS1812+ NAS and being new to this box, I'm at a loss on how to effectively setup my music and movie directory file structure on the NAS. How are you set up on your NAS?

 

David

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Anyone enabled the Widows Media streaming? So far I'm seeing my HD track files , Media monkey and have tested a few tracks on the 105 and sounds good. I'm no streaming expert and I believe its for windows 7 and if this includes dff files I'm not sure and the experts can take a look , but feel its worth a look. wink.gif
post #7461 of 10143
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

David;

I have the DS1812+ NAS and being new to this box, I'm at a loss on how to effectively setup my music and movie directory file structure on the NAS. How are you set up on your NAS?

David

Hi David,
That's a big NAS. You must already possess or plan to rip a lot more movie files than I would ever find time to watch!

If you are asking me whether the use of a NAS makes a difference to the directory structure for your media files then my answer would be no. I originally stored my music files on the disks fitted to my desktop PC and this structure was simply copied to my NAS under the 'music' shared folder. I can provide the exact details of this music folder structure if you want but it can be summarised as being focused on filing by composer name for classical CDs devoted to a single composer or under the heading of 'Classical compilations' for multiple composer CDs. Non-classical CDs are filed under the artist or band name. If I had any non-classical compilation CDs featuring a range of different artists then I would create a top level folder for that category. Under these high level folders, everything is stored within dedicated album folders (multiple disk albums are stored under a single album folder).

My MKV rips of DVDs and Blu-rays are stored within dedicated folders for each movie. These folders are either stored under 'Movies' or 'Music videos' and those two high level folders sit within the 'video' shared folder. The common theme in my choice of file directory structure for both music and video is to retain a clear connection to the original shiny disk.

The serving of the media files from my NAS is done using Synology's own Media Server app for video and MinimServer for music. I think I just used the default settings for Media Server but MinimServer (which has many benefits for classical music) requires a bit more initial work to get the best out of it. I have a proper metadata tag process in place for all my music (with these tags stored in the FLAC files) but have not yet fully developed a tagging scheme for my video files. I only bought my NAS boxes a few weeks ago and most of my video collection has still to be ripped.

I won't say any more until it is clearer which part of the process you are struggling with. Overall, this can be a very confusing topic and this forum has proved invaluable for clearing the fog from my own head!

David
Edited by haggis999 - 10/15/13 at 2:39am
post #7462 of 10143
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Anyone enabled the Widows Media streaming? So far I'm seeing my HD track files , Media monkey and have tested a few tracks on the 105 and sounds good. I'm no streaming expert and I believe its for windows 7 and if this includes dff files I'm not sure and the experts can take a look , but feel its worth a look. wink.gif
Windows media streaming is actually just a low-end DNLA server which won't offer any files that are not supported by Windows Media Player. There are far better choices for DNLA servers, and direct file sharing is also supported by the player.
post #7463 of 10143
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Soon new update for the BDP-105?

I've heard by the end of this month.
post #7464 of 10143
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Originally Posted by tranle View Post

Stereo is usually fine for music. If you are watching movies following thing are upgrade requirement:
1- subwoofer as most of the special effect (explosion, loud noise, scary low frequency effect) go there.
2- center speaker as most of the dialg goes there, unless you front speaker that are perfect in the midrange.
3- active room correction (audissey or anthem-arc) unless you have a dedicated listening/view room and nobody mind you moving furniture out of it.

1. Unless your main speakers are truly full range, a sub will benefit stereo listening as well - even some "regular" (non-pipe organ) instruments like the kick drum and bass can go as low as 40Hz - 50Hz. Most bookshelf and some large floorstanding speakers are -3dB in this range and can benefit the addition of a sub. If you do have truly full range mains, the Oppo will add LFE to the mains when they are set to "large" and sub "off".

2. Even if your mains have very good midrange, a center channel anchors dialog to the screen even when sitting outside of the sweet spot and more importantly will make dialog more intelligible than a "phantom" center channel - agreed, it is the most important speaker for HT

3. Room EQ is also important for stereo music listening - especially in the bass frequencies where room interaction plays a big role in how those frequencies are reproduced. Maybe Oppo will include 2 channel bass management and room EQ for the sub output in a future BDP?
post #7465 of 10143
I finally got around to trying my Generic powered 20 ft (or so) USB 2.0 cable with the BDP-105.
Works like a charm.

- Rich
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Originally Posted by mtn-tech View Post


3. Room EQ is also important for stereo music listening - especially in the bass frequencies where room interaction plays a big role in how those frequencies are reproduced. Maybe Oppo will include 2 channel bass management and room EQ for the sub output in a future BDP?

That would have me upgrading!
post #7467 of 10143
Thanks for the responses. Got my 105 last evening and I'm extremely satisfied so far, and haven't even run it in (obviously) or listened to any hi res audio yet. But my iTunes library never sounded so good (both via my Airport Express optical out, or from my iMac as networked server), and my cable STB run native through HDMI-IN looks considerably better with the Oppo than directly to the TV. Setting up the ARC channel was less than intuitive (took me a while to figure out CEC had to be enabled on my TV) but got it working so I can access audio from my TV's built-in streaming apps. I found no lip-sync issues on a variety of sources (I updated to the latest public firmware release as soon as I powered it up and got on my network). Frankly I was a bit concerned that I wouldn't think that the 105 was a good value. I've barely scratched its surface and my concern is gone biggrin.gif

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Regarding CEC...all that seems to work is that my TV (Vizio M-Series) remote turns off the Oppo when I turn the TV off, but no other function seems to carry though. Is there some magic to CEC functionality that anyone can help me with (or is the answer just a multi-function third-party remote)? I'm thinking of just getting an el-cheapo learning remote for the family to use for very basic functions only--power, input, channel, volume, and transport controls for STB, TV and 105 as needed--any recommendations?
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I finally got around to trying my Generic powered 20 ft (or so) USB 2.0 cable with the BDP-105.
Works like a charm.

- Rich

Hi Rich,
The StarTech 10 metre (~ 33 ft) active USB 2.0 cable I bought a few weeks ago has also been working fine when connected to my Oppo's USB DAC input. This is a well constructed cable but cost me less than £16 GBP. I think it is probably safe to assume that the Oppo is quite happy to accept input via any active USB cable.

David
post #7469 of 10143
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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post

I'm thinking of just getting an el-cheapo learning remote for the family to use for very basic functions only--power, input, channel, volume, and transport controls for STB, TV and 105 as needed--any recommendations?

The Harmony One remote may not qualify as "cheap", but it is easy to set up (once you understand the quirks of the process) and the Harmony database holds the key-codes for most TV/player/tuner/etc models in the real world.
post #7470 of 10143
Question for you guys,

When I watch movies, using the Oppo's DAC's, I sometimes can hear what seems to be distortion through my center channel speaker. This doesn't seem to happen when I use Audyssey through my receiver. And when I listen to music, it doesn't seem to happen either when I use the DAC's on the Oppo or the Audyssey through my receiver, so long as I have the center channel turned down a little on the Oppo. Any thoughts on that? Is my center channel not powerful enough?

A Marantz SR6007 is my receiver, 7.1 setup with Atlantic Technology 2200 speakers. On my Oppo, the left and right speakers are -4db and the center is -8db, with the surrounds at 0db.

One other question in terms of bass,
I have my Marantz up the bass for movies at 10db and for concerts 15db when using the Oppo. Is that too much? Or does that over amplify or distort anything? Would it be better to crank up the sub amplifier itself more instead?

Thanks! biggrin.gif
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