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post #7501 of 10206
^ Bob, didn't Paul say the anomaly he's seeing goes away if he configures his STB to output 1080 instead of "native"? Isn't that a viable solution/resolution?
post #7502 of 10206
^ It's a workaround. But not a solution, since the idea is to get "native" to work.
--Bob
post #7503 of 10206
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ It's a workaround. But not a solution, since the idea is to get "native" to work.
--Bob

Yes, native is my goal. The fixed 1080p is my fallback while I go through the learning and experimentation process.

Bob, thanks very much for the information. There's so many permutations to try. Still not done....
post #7504 of 10206
Just noted this in the 95 thread, and thought audiophiles in this thread might be interested as well. OPPO has just added a new section to their web site:

http://www.oppodigital.com/future/

--Bob
post #7505 of 10206
^ Wow. Very cool future Oppo components. I wonder how planar magnetic headphones will sound like?

Oppo didn't mention if their headphone amp will support playback of digital media via a connected usb drive or smb/cifs via ethernet?

So their upcoming HA-1 Headphone amp will support DSD via the async usb dac interface. I wonder why Oppo won't add that support to the 105? It would just be a firmware update, along with some type of windows/mac os usb driver to handle dsd streams.
post #7506 of 10206
Thread Starter 
The BDP-105 uses an older version of the XMOS hardware, so it is not built into it. OPPO still hopes a software solution may be created, but likely this is a hardware limitation.
post #7507 of 10206
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Hi David,
Many kind people here have helped me to thrust through the thickets of ignorance and I am more than happy to return the favour when I can. If you need any more screenshots then just let me know.

As I said earlier, the main objective of my chosen file directory structure is to retain a clear connection to the original shiny disks. A coherent directory structure also facilitates browsing if you are using an SMB/CIFS connection to your media storage from the Oppo. Some people are happy to use SMB/CIFS but I much prefer a UPnP/DLNA connection, as it enables the exploitation of metadata tags. For my purposes, I find metadata-based browsing much more powerful than location-based browsing.

What approach are you planning to use for accessing your own media collection?

David

You are assuming I know the techno-babble you are referring to:)  ... I plan to access it using KooKaRoo Media from my laptop. And when I feel lazy and don't feel like firing up my laptop, I will access the Oppo directly. So which techno word would you use to refer to my setup?

Hi David,
Sorry about that smile.gif. I just made a wild stab in the dark at your current awareness of the technical gobbledegook that surrounds our shared interest in computer-based media solutions. Unfortunately, it is difficult to fully grasp all the many different options for audio and video storage and playback without resorting to such jargon.

Laird provided a good overview of SMB/CIFS versus UPnP/DLNA. Did that make sense to you? He also provided a brief introduction to metadata tags. Have you made a conscious effort to tag your music files in a consistent manner? The usefulness of DLNA software such as KooRaRoo Media is directly related to the quality of these tags.

I've never previously heard of KooRaRoo Media. However, a quick check shows that it is a Windows based "DLNA server and media organizer". As such, it is in competition with J River Media Center (JRMC), which is a long established heavyweight player in this market. It may be that KooRaRoo attracts you because it is simple to use but if you ever find yourself frustrated by things that it cannot do or does badly then I recommend that you check out JRMC.

Have you considered any form of DLNA 'Control Point' software? Such apps usually run on smart phones or tablets. If you have an Android device or an iPad then you could browse the media stored on your NAS from the comfort of your sofa and request it to be played on your Oppo. I find the media browsing interface provided by these apps is normally much slicker and more user friendly than using the Oppo remote to browse media on your television screen.

For music, I normally use BubbleUPnP on my Android phone in conjunction with MinimServer on my Synology NAS (no TV required). BubbleUPnP and MinimServer make a particularly good team for classical music. At present, I have to tell BubbleUPnP to send the music to JRMC on my PC, which is connected to the Oppo's USB DAC input. This bypasses the Oppo's current inability to support gapless playback via DLNA (JRMC has no such problem). When Oppo deliver on their promised firmware update to support gapless via DLNA then my music playback process will no longer require the PC to be switched on.

At present, I seldom use an Android control point for streaming video as such apps do not normally permit chapter navigation or selection of subtitle tracks or audio tracks (all of which are important to me but not to all users). These missing features are supported by Oppo's own MediaControlHD app on a iPad but MediaControlHD does not yet support DLNA (it only works via SMB/CIFS).

All these technologies are still evolving ...

David
Edited by haggis999 - 10/20/13 at 4:35am
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The BDP-105 uses an older version of the XMOS hardware, so it is not built into it. OPPO still hopes a software solution may be created, but likely this is a hardware limitation.
Bad news. I think for some of us they released the Oppo 105 one year too early. My solution now is the Matrix X-Sabre DAC. Same Sabre chip but newer XMOS hardware. Works well with the Squeezebox Touch (with the EDO app). The Matrix + Oppo BDP-103 = "DSD/DoP-ready Oppo 105" cool.gif (and gapless playback thanks to the SBT)
post #7509 of 10206
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ It's a workaround. But not a solution, since the idea is to get "native" to work.
--Bob

Well, I kind of found "the answer" in something I should have tried long ago. HDMI 2 Output works fine! So for now I have to trade off the QDEO processing for the Oppo's upscaling and "plane-Jane" processing. Initially, I think I like the QDEO/1080p better than the non-QDEO native STB image. I'll continue to experiment...

Tried HDMI 1 in "Source Direct" and the resolution handshakes work but are noisy affairs, without the trash being blacked out. But still lose the QDEO this way...
Edited by paul54 - 10/20/13 at 8:13am
post #7510 of 10206
Oppo is getting into the lucrative business of head sets! Let't hope they are priced reasonably?

Also I seriously hope that the next OPPO Blu Ray player includes major enhancements! Like integrating DIRAC or ROOM PERFECT, plus may be offering Dolby ATMOS if it become available. I really would like to see OPPO have 7 balanced connections that would be really nice!

Then I can remove my pre/ pro
post #7511 of 10206
OPPO is coming out with a Headphone Amp and Headphones.

http://canadahifi.com/oppo-pm-1-planar-headpones-and-ha-1-headphone-amp/
http://www.oppodigital.com/future/
Edited by Donloz - 10/20/13 at 8:19am
post #7512 of 10206
So....
post #7513 of 10206
So what? biggrin.gif
post #7514 of 10206
... o/ A needle pulling thread! o/
post #7515 of 10206
Haven't come across many pics of the Silver BDP-105, so I figured I'd post one of mine. If anyone out there is on the fence as to going with the silver edition v. the black one, I'd say silver is the better-looking of the two.

post #7516 of 10206
Hi everybody

I am a new comer here and I recently bought an oppo105. I used the input of 'optical in' for AAC decoding. Can the decoded AAC signals be out through HDMI cable (HDMI output 2)? Or can it be out through the multi-channel RCA output?

Thank you in advance.

Tony
post #7517 of 10206
^ Yes to both.
--Bob
post #7518 of 10206
Greetings! Well as of last Saturday I became an OPPO BDP-105 owner. The tracking said it wouldn't be here until Tuesday but I got a knock on the door late in the afternoon and there it was sitting on the porch. biggrin.gif I'm still waiting for my copy of Disney WoW to arrive so I won't be doing any critical setting up until I get that. I'm slowly working my way through the 250+ pages of this tome but I would like to ask a question. Sorry if it is covered someplace in this thread. Does anyone have any set up tips or suggestions for me with my system which is listed below? Right now I'm running HDMI from the DVR to the OPPO and 2 HDMI lines from the OPPO to the monitor for video. For audio I'm coming out of the analog 2 channel of the OPPO to the Citation. The Citation will be replaced the near future by either a Anthem AVM30 or AVM50. This system is only used for video. I have a separate 2 ch set up for music. Thanks…smile.gif

Sources: Oppo BDP-105 & Dish VIP722k DVR
AV Processor: Citation 7.0 THX
Amp: ATI 2505
Speakers: all Magnepan > front MG1.5 QR / Center MGCC3 / rear MG1.0 imp
Subwoofer: REL Britannia B2
Monitor: Panasonic TC-P50V10
post #7519 of 10206
^ You should be using the 105 for 2 ch audio too...It's dacs emit tone from heaven. smile.gif
post #7520 of 10206
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

^ You should be using the 105 for 2 ch audio too...It's dacs emit tone from heaven. smile.gif

In my 2 ch set up I've got a Wadia 121 handling all of the d to a stuff while being fed from a McIntosh MCD751 transport. It all sounds pretty good as it emanates from my Magnestand MG12's. biggrin.gif

I agree though with everything I've read it would make a pretty nice player in a dedicated 2 ch setup. Who knows, maybe down the road...
post #7521 of 10206
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Originally Posted by maggy_man View Post

In my 2 ch set up I've got a Wadia 121 handling all of the d to a stuff while being fed from a McIntosh MCD751 transport. It all sounds pretty good as it emanates from my Magnestand MG12's. biggrin.gif

I agree though with everything I've read it would make a pretty nice player in a dedicated 2 ch setup. Who knows, maybe down the road...

At least give it a try. I'm using McIntosh power and was using a Cambridge Audio 840C. The 105 is just better. You may be surprised in your setup too. It is also fabulous via DVD/Bluray via analog two-channel for movies as well.
post #7522 of 10206

Guys, Hope you can help.

 

I'm interested to know about the Oppo 105's headphone amp, is it any good, is it comparable to a stand alone headphone amp etc?

 

Also I'd like to know about the balanced outlets at the rear of the 105. If I connect L+R to the RCA outlets, can I still utilize the balanced outlets separately?  

 

Looking forward to your replies, thank you in advance.

 

illusion58.

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Originally Posted by illusion58 View Post

Guys, Hope you can help.

I'm interested to know about the Oppo 105's headphone amp, is it any good, is it comparable to a stand alone headphone amp etc?

Also I'd like to know about the balanced outlets at the rear of the 105. If I connect L+R to the RCA outlets, can I still utilize the balanced outlets separately?  

Looking forward to your replies, thank you in advance.

illusion58.

I'm not a headphones guy, but I had a friend bring over his Sennheiser HD580 last night and we gave it a whirl. While it doesn't sound as good as the $1500 tube based headphone amps I've played with (obviously), it was shockingly good. IMHO, it's like getting a free audiophile headphone amp with purchase of your Blu-ray player! You could do better, but it's practically free stuff, and no slouch for sure!

As for the balanced and RCA, yes, I believe two channels of the DAC are dedicated to *each* the RCA, and Balanced pairs.

For a nice 2.1 setup, you can also run a sub-woofer off the 7.1 analog out and set the crossover to mate up with your two channel speakers appropriately.
post #7524 of 10206
Perhaps already answered on the Forum, sorry, but how would the quality/musicality of DACs in Oppo 105 compare to those found in Marantz AV7701 pre-pro? Want to find out if extra cost of 105 would be warranted and rewarded with a substantial sound improvement. I would of course use the analog outputs into the 7701, not merely the HDMI. Thanks!
post #7525 of 10206
OK, my previous question fell flat - so how about this.

My Oppo is connected to my HT via HDMI - my HT has a projector that I'd rather not turn on and burn hours on the lamp, just for two channel listening.

I'd like to figure out a "portable" screen solution I could run off to the Oppo HDMI 2 so I can see the menus when I'm doing two channel listening.

Is there a way to get wireless/portable viewing of those menus? Maybe via tablet?
post #7526 of 10206
wirelessN adapter so i would imagine yes.
post #7527 of 10206
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wirelessN adapter so i would imagine yes.

Can you be more specific?
post #7528 of 10206
^ There's other options for 2-ch listening on the 105 that don't require needing your tv/projector on. Having a dlna server, along with media control sw running on your pc, you can keep your display off. Also, if you have an iPad/iPhone, you can use Oppo's MediaControlHD app and access your music library from your tablet/phone without the need of turning your display on.
post #7529 of 10206
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

^ There's other options for 2-ch listening on the 105 that don't require needing your tv/projector on. Having a dlna server, along with media control sw running on your pc, you can keep your display off. Also, if you have an iPad/iPhone, you can use Oppo's MediaControlHD app and access your music library from your tablet/phone without the need of turning your display on.

If I'm using Media Control Software, doesn't that use the DAC in the computer vs using the DAC from the Oppo? Or did I misread that?

I'm an Android user thankfully. .
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Originally Posted by Lonely Raven View Post

If I'm using Media Control Software, doesn't that use the DAC in the computer vs using the DAC from the Oppo? Or did I misread that?

I'm an Android user thankfully. .

Nope. The DAC -- Digital to Analog Converter -- comes into play as the last step, where the digital audio format is converted to Analog for output on the Dedicated Stereo or Multi-channel Analog jacks.

There are no Analog INPUTS on the 105. However you end up playing media files from your computer, the data going between the computer and the 105 is Digital.

If you are playing media files from an attached hard drive, or pulled across the network from disks on an SMB server, or pulled/pushed across the network from disks on a DLNA server, then what's being transferred digitally is media files. The 105 renders those media files into digital audio and passes that result to its DACs for output.

If you are playing media files on your computer and using the Asynchronous USB DAC Input or the HDMI Inputs or the Optical/Coax Inputs, then the computer is rendering those files into digital audio, but again what goes to the OPPO is still digital audio, and the DACs in the OPPO still do the final step of conversion to Analog for output.

NOTE: OPPO's own MediaControlHD app is currently only available for iOS iPad users -- not Android.
--Bob
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