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post #7591 of 10098
^ Sometimes even a slight variation in HDMI signal timing can make the difference. With some other balky source devices, OPPO has found that they'll work through the front HDMI input when they don't work through the rear. That shouldn't be possible, but if the source is putting out weird stuff, anything can happen.
--bob
post #7592 of 10098
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Physically disconnect the HDMI outputs entirely at the back of the OPPO and try your CDs that way (Analog audio to your AVR). Do you still get the dropouts? If not, then there's an HDMI setup problem we'll need to ferret out.

(Come to think of it, it would probably be best to disconnect EVERYTHING from the OPPO -- Wifi dongle, Ethernet, attached drives, Optical/Coax, and anything connected to its Inputs. For this test, try the OPPO with JUST power and the Analog cables to your AVR.)

If you DO still get the dropouts -- again this is with NO HDMI CABLES attached to the OPPO -- then keep an eye on the time code in the front panel display when the dropout happens. Does the time code stall briefly during a dropout then jump ahead? If so then the laser head that reads the CD discs may need cleaning. It may have picked up a hair or some dust. I.e., your dropout is simply a disc read problem -- usually easy to resolve. I would have immediately jumped to this possibility except that you say you are having the same problem with content played from the Squeezebox.

CD and SD-DVD discs use a different laser lens than is used for Blu-ray discs.
--Bob
Thanks Bob, I will try your above suggestion. one other thing i forgot to mention. I also get these drop outs/ pauses when I switch inputs. I.E. when listening to a CD then switching from BD(HDMI) to CD (analog) . No sure if that's relevant.
post #7593 of 10098

Oppo BDP-105 lost Twonky but still sees network / PC - help?

I have been using Twonky for months with perfect results, including listening to some HD flacs at 24/196 just an hour ago.

Should have left well enough alone.

I read elsewhere that, in order to play DSD files over the network, I needed to use SMB instead of DLNA.
In order to turn on SMB, all I had to do is share the file folder on my PC and find it in my Oppo's Network settings.

As soon as I did that, my playback through Twonky stopped and Twonky disappeared from my Oppo's GUI on screen.

Instead, I now see my PC and I am forced to browse to a 'Music' folder which then asks me for a login ID and password, all in the Oppo GUI.

I did not set up a username or password, so I now have no way of accessing my music folder on the Oppo AND to top things off, my Twonky server is gone from the Oppo screen, even though the server is running on my PC.

What the eff just happened and how do I fix this?????

Thank you for your help.
post #7594 of 10098
The HDMI cables turn out to be AQ Carbon, suitable for high speed 1080p HDMI. I unplugged the DirecTV HD-DVR and shifted the Oppo output to HDMI-2 as GRS had suggested. I plugged the HD-DVR back in and brought up the projector. HBO and Showtime were displayed without problem. I moved the output back to HDMI-1, and still HBO and Showtime are displayed without problem. Tomorrow, I'll try to include HDMI-2 directly to the monitor. Not sure what produced the apparent fix, power cycling the HD-DVR or disconnecting and reconnecting the HDMI connections. Thanks for all the help.

db
post #7595 of 10098
^ Sometimes a "marginal cabling" problem is nothing more than the mechanical fit of plug in socket -- particular if anything (e.g., cable weight) is tugging on the plug. HDMI plugs are only friction fit, and it just takes a small shift of plug in socket to screw things up.

So reseating the plugs in the sockets may indeed be all it took to fix this! Anyway, if the problem recurs, and you can reach to where that plug sits in the socket, try gently pressing it straight into the socket, then give a gentle wiggle. If this "wiggle test" cures the fault, then you may need to support the weight of the cable where it is tugging on the plug in the socket.
--Bob
post #7596 of 10098
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Originally Posted by pvanosta View Post

I have been using Twonky for months with perfect results, including listening to some HD flacs at 24/196 just an hour ago.

Should have left well enough alone.

I read elsewhere that, in order to play DSD files over the network, I needed to use SMB instead of DLNA.
In order to turn on SMB, all I had to do is share the file folder on my PC and find it in my Oppo's Network settings.

As soon as I did that, my playback through Twonky stopped and Twonky disappeared from my Oppo's GUI on screen.

Instead, I now see my PC and I am forced to browse to a 'Music' folder which then asks me for a login ID and password, all in the Oppo GUI.

I did not set up a username or password, so I now have no way of accessing my music folder on the Oppo AND to top things off, my Twonky server is gone from the Oppo screen, even though the server is running on my PC.

What the eff just happened and how do I fix this?????

Thank you for your help.

The player doesn't have the ability to kill Twonky on your PC, so something else happened on the PC side.

Are you sure Twonky is running? Have you tried stopping are restarting it? Tried restarting the player?

-Bill
post #7597 of 10098
Looking for advice...

I need to understand how to get the Oppo to update to changes on the PC I stream to it with.

Lately when I add files to my music folders, the Oppo does not update to the additional content.

I have tried turning the 105 on and off, rebooting the PC, refreshing the folder and resetting the wireless connection through the 105.

I have great signal strength and really do not know what to do.

Anybody in here encounter this and find a solution or two? I am reading through this thread, but there is a ton of information here and it is going to take days.

Thanks ahead of time.
post #7598 of 10098
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Originally Posted by SoundSmile View Post

Looking for advice...

I need to understand how to get the Oppo to update to changes on the PC I stream to it with.

Lately when I add files to my music folders, the Oppo does not update to the additional content.

Is this with DLNA or SMB? With DLNA, the server has to be told, or have an automatic feature, to see and present new content. What server are you using?

-Bill
post #7599 of 10098
Bill,
I am sure Twonky is running (The app is up on my desktop and I can browse the folders and it 'sees' the Oppo) and I agree the problem is on the PC. As soon as I fiddled with the Sharing of the music folder, is when Twonky disappeared on the Oppo and is when the login screen appeared on the Oppo.

I have undone the sharing and it has no effect on the Oppo side.

I have reset the Oppo to factory and reconfigured the network connection from scratch. I don't know what else to do at this stage.
post #7600 of 10098
I just returned the PC to a prior state (last save poin was 3 days ago and the problem with Twonly started yesterday) and everything is back to normal.

I just wish I knew what I did wrong.

I want to be able to run Twonky AND SMB...
post #7601 of 10098
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundSmile View Post

Looking for advice...

I need to understand how to get the Oppo to update to changes on the PC I stream to it with.

Lately when I add files to my music folders, the Oppo does not update to the additional content.

I have tried turning the 105 on and off, rebooting the PC, refreshing the folder and resetting the wireless connection through the 105.

I have great signal strength and really do not know what to do.

Anybody in here encounter this and find a solution or two? I am reading through this thread, but there is a ton of information here and it is going to take days.

Thanks ahead of time.
Is the Oppo in Energy Efficient or Quick Start mode? If it's in Quick Start mode, try switching to Energy Efficient and cycling power as that will force it to get a fresh list of content from the server.
post #7602 of 10098
Just a Win 7 x64 PC. It is not dedicated to media.

How would I go about doing what you indicated? I am more than a little comfortable around a PC, however using one as a media server is new territory to me.

Thanks by the way.
post #7603 of 10098
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Is the Oppo in Energy Efficient or Quick Start mode? If it's in Quick Start mode, try switching to Energy Efficient and cycling power as that will force it to get a fresh list of content from the server.

I will check on this. I am sure it is in QS mode. I will enable EE and try that. Does this mean every time I cycle power in EE mode it will refresh or only when I switch from QS to EE and then cycle power?

By cycle power you mean the button not the 120VAC correct?

Thanks!
post #7604 of 10098
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Originally Posted by SoundSmile View Post

I will check on this. I am sure it is in QS mode. I will enable EE and try that. Does this mean every time I cycle power in EE mode it will refresh or only when I switch from QS to EE and then cycle power?

By cycle power you mean the button not the 120VAC correct?

Thanks!
If the player is in Quick Start mode, the player boots up faster and also maintains the list of data it has received from the DLNA server in memory when you put it into standby. If it's in Energy Efficient mode, the player takes a bit longer to boot and discards that list when you put it into standby, so yes if you leave it in EE mode, it will refresh the list every time you go to use it. By cycle power, I mean use the remote or the power button on the front panel, there's no need to pull the power plug in the back.
post #7605 of 10098
Got it.

This should settle the matter.

Hope it helps others also.

Refresh Update New Music New Files
post #7606 of 10098
Hi all:

So I am having some major audio drop outs. I rip files (mostly dsd rips and hdtracks) to a Drobo 5N. The Oppo hits them via SMB. Conceptually, it works perfect. The latest beta firmware even allows the SMB sorting to be alphabetical. Sound quality is awesome.

So here is the problem.....Every other or song or so just has these drop outs. It's as if the network is not fast enough for the high res files. I have both the Drobo and the Oppo connected to the same gig switch. The Drobo allows for me to play with frame rates and jumbo packets, but I don't see any advanced ethernet settings for the Oppo. Not even sure this is the right direction to rectify this.

Just got my hands on the HDTRacks ver of Dreamboat Annie and it is so sweet. Of course the songs pause, you wait like 15 seconds and it resumes. Your heart sinks...

Any suggestions?
post #7607 of 10098
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Originally Posted by bklynhowie View Post

Hi all:

So I am having some major audio drop outs. I rip files (mostly dsd rips and hdtracks) to a Drobo 5N. The Oppo hits them via SMB. Conceptually, it works perfect. The latest beta firmware even allows the SMB sorting to be alphabetical. Sound quality is awesome.

So here is the problem.....Every other or song or so just has these drop outs. It's as if the network is not fast enough for the high res files. I have both the Drobo and the Oppo connected to the same gig switch. The Drobo allows for me to play with frame rates and jumbo packets, but I don't see any advanced ethernet settings for the Oppo. Not even sure this is the right direction to rectify this.

Just got my hands on the HDTRacks ver of Dreamboat Annie and it is so sweet. Of course the songs pause, you wait like 15 seconds and it resumes. Your heart sinks...

Any suggestions?
Copy some sample files that you're seeing the issue with to a USB drive and hook it up direct to one of the Oppo's USB ports. If the dropouts still occur, then the problem is most likely with your files. If the dropouts don't occur, then you know that there's an issue with your Drobo, Network, or possibly the Oppo. As far as frame rates and jumbo frames go, the data rates involved for streaming even high res music files shouldn't require anything all that special (and the Oppo doesn't have gigabit networking anyway).
post #7608 of 10098
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Copy some sample files that you're seeing the issue with to a USB drive and hook it up direct to one of the Oppo's USB ports. If the dropouts still occur, then the problem is most likely with your files. If the dropouts don't occur, then you know that there's an issue with your Drobo, Network, or possibly the Oppo. As far as frame rates and jumbo frames go, the data rates involved for streaming even high res music files shouldn't require anything all that special (and the Oppo doesn't have gigabit networking anyway).

Thanks for the assist. Files play fine on usb. I will investigate further and report back.
post #7609 of 10098
I just received the Oppo BDP-105 and love it! However, I am having difficulty having the Oppo recognizing and connecting to my Iomega external hard drive which is attached to my mac mini. I have "shared" all the appropriate music folders in my mac mini, but when I goto Network on Oppo, it only recognizes the Shared Drives, not that actual external hard drive the USB cable is connected between the oppo and Iomega hard drive. I am also using the MediaControl HD app on my ipad and it wont even recognize the "source" and consequently is now working either. What am I doing wrong???? Help!!!
post #7610 of 10098
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Originally Posted by markpo69 View Post

I just received the Oppo BDP-105 and love it! However, I am having difficulty having the Oppo recognizing and connecting to my Iomega external hard drive which is attached to my mac mini. I have "shared" all the appropriate music folders in my mac mini, but when I goto Network on Oppo, it only recognizes the Shared Drives, not that actual external hard drive the USB cable is connected between the oppo and Iomega hard drive. I am also using the MediaControl HD app on my ipad and it wont even recognize the "source" and consequently is now working either. What am I doing wrong???? Help!!!

Check how the drive is formatted (Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility). See the FAQ (link at the top of the first post of this thread). Supported formats are FAT and NTFS. In particular MAC OS X Extended is not supported.

Now you also say you have the drive connected by USB to the OPPO, but also to the Mac Mini. If you really meant to say you have it cabled to both, then it is likely the drive won't support simultaneous connections -- i.e., only one will be live at a time.
--Bob
post #7611 of 10098
Thanks Bob! Yes I meant the USB cable is connected between the Oppo and the Iomega external hard drive only. I will check out the format and advise. Thanks again!
post #7612 of 10098
^ And just to eliminate the obvious, the hard drive's USB cable should be plugged into one of the 3, thin rectangular USB peripheral device sockets on the 105 (one in front and two in back).

It should NOT be plugged into the square shaped Asynchronous USB DAC Input socket on the back panel.
--Bob
post #7613 of 10098
Oops! I have it plugged into the DAC USB port on the Oppo. I wanted to take advantage of the DAC by connecting to this port vs the other USB ports. Is that why it's not recognizing the hard drive? And of course I got a more expensive usb a/b cable! I also discovered my hard drive is OS expanded formatted. Even if I use standard usb cable between the Iomega and Oppo 2.0 USB port, will it still not recognize it? Thanks again for your help!
post #7614 of 10098
^ Different port entirely. The thin rectangular USB sockets are for connecting peripheral devices: Hard drives, the Wifi dongle, a USB keyboard…

When a properly formatted hard drive is attached, the OPPO can find and play media files.

The Asynchronous USB DAC Input is for connecting a computer to the 105, so that you can use the 105 as the "sound card" for the computer instead of using whatever sound card is built into the computer.

When a computer is attached that way (and the computer is set up to use it), any audio the computer itself might generate (i.e., by using a music playing program on the computer) gets played by the OPPO itself instead of through the computers own speakers -- Stereo digital audio -- LPCM up to 192KHz 24-bit.
--Bob
post #7615 of 10098
Why is it that if I burn my cds to flac onto my Western Digital hard drive and I put them all in order by numbers, the Oppo show some of them in a row and some completely out of order?eek.gif
post #7616 of 10098
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Originally Posted by luismanrara View Post

Why is it that if I burn my cds to flac onto my Western Digital hard drive and I put them all in order by numbers, the Oppo show some of them in a row and some completely out of order?eek.gif

Are you running current firmware?

Are you numbering them by alpha sorting? You need this:

01-title
02-title
...
10-title


...not this:

1-title
2-title
10-title

-Bill
post #7617 of 10098
I see that some months ago there was an issue with bursts of a type of white or pink noise occurring during playback of audio from USB sources (not the asynchronous input).

I have had this issue recently with my 105. It started with FLAC files on a thumb drive. Then I tried a different thumb drive and thought I'd found a solution, but then the problem appeared again. I then tried a 1TB hard drive with FLAC, ALAC, and AAC files, and went for a couple hours of playback without an issue…then a couple of bursts. All drives were FAT or FAT32, and it doesn't matter whether I use the front or rear inputs, or to be limited to only one file type. I use only the dedicated audio outputs, if that matters. Also, I'm using the latest beta firmware.

There didn't seem to be a resolution the last time this was discussed (or at least not one that I've been able to find--apologies if my searching skills have let me down).

Anything new on this front? (I plan on calling Oppo tomorrow…)
post #7618 of 10098
^ Nothing new. Give OPPO a call and they'll help you sort this out. It's possible your 105 needs warranty service, but there are other things to try first.

It would be helpful if you have a reliable way to reproduce the problem so you can feel confident that a suggested fix has actually worked.
--Bob
post #7619 of 10098
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Nothing new. Give OPPO a call and they'll help you sort this out. It's possible your 105 needs warranty service, but there are other things to try first.

It would be helpful if you have a reliable way to reproduce the problem so you can feel confident that a suggested fix has actually worked.
--Bob

I understand the need, but that's gonna be tough eek.gif

I've already tried…but I'll keep at it.
post #7620 of 10098
^ Well get in touch with them, anyway, as they may have additional suggestions for how to ferret this out. I can tell you that noise bursts like you are reporting are NOT normal, so there's definitely something the needs to hunted down and shot.

Be sure to let them know which firmware you are using in the 105: Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information > Main firmware version number.
--Bob
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