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post #9061 of 10150
I am not techi so I don't know the terminology. I choose network on my oppo player & play movies. I missed out on some info in my last thread- majority of movies will show the option of subtitle in English but even after selecting the language they still don't show any subs.
post #9062 of 10150
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Originally Posted by Keerthi View Post

I am not techi so I don't know the terminology. I choose network on my oppo player & play movies. I missed out on some info in my last thread- majority of movies will show the option of subtitle in English but even after selecting the language they still don't show any subs.

Do you want to fix this? It's going to require a little systematic diagnosis. We can't do anything without specific data.

Do some of your files show subtitles properly? Do those all have something in common? Like using embedded vs separate? Or do they have subtitles of a certain type, like SRT vs VOBSUB vs PGS?

Take some files that don't work properly and copy them to a USB device or optical disc and insert them into the player directly. What happens when you play each? Give us the details on each type of file.

-Bill
post #9063 of 10150
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Originally Posted by marky301067 View Post

All sorted now.

Is there a way to play SACD image files from the server through the media centre?
There's a way to play dff and dsf files, if that's what you're asking. With the current version of J River, you have to manually edit the file associations in their software:

C:\Program Files (x86)\J River\Media Center 19\Data\Default Resources\FileAssociations.xml

Add the following entries to the <Audio> section:

<Item Name="dff">audio/x-dff</Item>

<Item Name="dsf">audio/x-dsf</Item>


See this thread on the JRiver forum for more details. This will only work when using the Oppo's interface to browse the JRiver DLNA server for now. JRiver has a beta version that will work when using the Oppo as a renderer that will probably be available before too long.
post #9064 of 10150
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Originally Posted by Keerthi View Post

I am not techi so I don't know the terminology. I choose network on my oppo player & play movies. I missed out on some info in my last thread- majority of movies will show the option of subtitle in English but even after selecting the language they still don't show any subs.

Ok, fair enough.

If you are playing MKVs served over DLNA, the Oppo will ONLY support SUB subtitles in the MKV. Please note that this is ONLY if you use the Oppo's built in DLNA browser. It's ugly but gets the job done.

If you are playing MKVs via attached storage or via SMB (using the Oppo provided MediaController HD app from the Apple/Google app stores) then PGS subtitles will work; it's essentially just browsing files on your storage as if you were looking at them say in Windows or OS X directly. Nothing fancy, basic, but supports the standard bluray subtitle format, PGS.

In *ALL* cases, Oppo simply does not support "forced" subtitles, those subs that display regardless of whether you have subs enabled or not. Many titles use this; my workaround for those titles is to make the first subtitle track in the MKV the "forced" track, then add a "*" to the filename/movie name so that when I browse it and start playback, I know to enable the first subtitle track. I'm going to set up a macro on my Harmony remote for this just to save a step or two.

So what does all of that mean?

if you want to use DLNA to serve your content and you want subtitles for MKVs with PGS subtitles, then you need to use various free tools to do what is called "demuxing" to extract the PGS subtitle tracks, convert them to SUB format (you lose some things; it's not perfect; text subs work fine; graphical subs look terrible); then "remux" the converted subtitles back into the MKV file.

It's a laborious process and one that I decided to semi-automate via python program I cobbled together.

If you simply want to use SMB or attached storage to your Oppo, then your subs should work fine, PGS or SUB format.

Finally - if you use any fancy app to "push" content to the Oppo, then subs will not work at all at t his time. In every case the Oppo "sees" the subtitle tracks; selecting them however will not display them
Edited by frank_t - 2/8/14 at 11:12am
post #9065 of 10150
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Originally Posted by Keerthi View Post

I am not techi so I don't know the terminology. I choose network on my oppo player & play movies. I missed out on some info in my last thread- majority of movies will show the option of subtitle in English but even after selecting the language they still don't show any subs.

If you are using a MAC (OS X) there is a nice free utility in the app store called "Media Info". download it. open your MKV file(s) with it and it'll tell you exactly what type of subtitle tracks are in the file.

that can help you answer what type of subtitles you are working with.

It'll work with pretty much any media type, not just MKV
post #9066 of 10150
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

There's a way to play dff and dsf files, if that's what you're asking. With the current version of J River, you have to manually edit the file associations in their software:

C:\Program Files (x86)\J River\Media Center 19\Data\Default Resources\FileAssociations.xml

Add the following entries to the <Audio> section:

<Item Name="dff">audio/x-dff</Item>

<Item Name="dsf">audio/x-dsf</Item>


See this thread on the JRiver forum for more details. This will only work when using the Oppo's interface to browse the JRiver DLNA server for now. JRiver has a beta version that will work when using the Oppo as a renderer that will probably be available before too long.
Further update: It looks like JRMC build 114 has already modified the necessary audio mime-types in the "FileAssociations.xml" file (Windows based) for the Oppo players. dsf/dff files can now be played via DLNA (JRiver Media Server). Furthermore, the Oppo players (103/105) can act as a "Digital Media Player"(pull) or a "Digital Media Renderer"(push).....both methods work now!! JRiver says if your audio output for your DLNA server is set to "original" and the DoPE option is turned off, the dsf/dff file types will be sent to a "renderer" as is.

Good News!!
Edited by DanF8500 - 2/8/14 at 8:03am
post #9067 of 10150
I am currently using JRiver MC with the DLNA server and my Oppo 105 and it works ok so far but I have not been able to play files from my laptop connected to the USB audio in(the one going straight to the dac) on the back of the Oppo. Is there a setting a need to adjust? When I plug in the usb connection to my laptop nothing is detected. I am using Windows 8.1. Thanks for any input. Also, I am using the trial version of JRiver if that makes any difference.

Matt
post #9068 of 10150
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Originally Posted by mdanderson View Post

I am currently using JRiver MC with the DLNA server and my Oppo 105 and it works ok so far but I have not been able to play files from my laptop connected to the USB audio in on the back of the Oppo.
Ok - so those are two pretty-much entirely different things, so it is no surprise that one works and the other does not.
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Is there a setting a need to adjust? When I plug in the usb connection to my laptop nothing is detected. I am using Windows 8.1.
Have you installed the windows driver that lets windows use the Oppo as its "sound card"? You need that. No software on the PC, including JRiver, will play via the USB connection unless the USB driver for the Oppo is installed. Go here: http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-105/blu-ray-BDP-105-Support.aspx and follow the instructions for "Software Driver for USB Audio DAC:"
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Thanks for any input. Also, I am using the trial version of JRiver if that makes any difference.
That won't make any difference until 30 days from now when the temporary license times out.

Matt[/quote]
post #9069 of 10150
Hello,

My AV Pre-Pro has to go in for repair! So I need to plug in my amps straight to the BDP-105 ?

Any thing I should watch out for before I do that to make sure I don't fry my speakers or amps?

Also I assume I can use the L/R XLR and the five RCA remaining channels yes, or do I need to plug only the RCAs?

Thank you for the help
post #9070 of 10150
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Hello,

My AV Pre-Pro has to go in for repair! So I need to plug in my amps straight to the BDP-105 ?

Any thing I should watch out for before I do that to make sure I don't fry my speakers or amps?

Also I assume I can use the L/R XLR and the five RCA remaining channels yes, or do I need to plug only the RCAs?

Thank you for the help

Set the Max Volume on the 105 to something below 100.

Bad assumption. You can use the Dedicated RCA connectors, just not the XLR's. XLR's provide a +6db boost over the RCA's.
post #9071 of 10150
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Oppo has a serial driver for Windows based computers that needs to be installed on your pc. For Mac's, no usb driver is required. I definitely would go the DLNA route, since you have a NAS. I have a Synology also. I use Synology's embedded dlna media server in combination with an ios-based app called 8Player, I run on my iPad. This setup works great, with the added bonus that neither your pc or your tv need to be on. Once you're able to use dlna, you will forget about trying to use the usb dac input on the 105. For DSD file playback, you'll need to either use the SMB protocol or a usb attached drive with your DSD files loaded on it. In both of those options you have a choice of using either Oppo's ios-based MediaControlHD app or the 105's onscreen interface.

Hey Dan,

I was curious exactly which synology device you are using? Seems like a very clean setup.
post #9072 of 10150
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Originally Posted by Slinkee View Post

Hey Dan,

I was curious exactly which synology device you are using? Seems like a very clean setup.
Slinkee, any of the Synology NAS home systems should work fine,. I'm using an older 2-bay Synology NAS (DS211j) running their current released software (DSM 4.3). You'll have to install their embedded dlna media server package (free), then all you'll need is a control app to utilize the dlna server. I mentioned 8Player, but I just discovered that the newest version of Synology's free ios app, DS Audio, will also work perfectly, and will push media files to an Oppo player.
post #9073 of 10150
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Slinkee, any of the Synology NAS home systems should work fine,. I'm using an older 2-bay Synology NAS (DS211j) running their current released software (DSM 4.3). You'll have to install their embedded dlna media server package (free), then all you'll need is a control app to utilize the dlna server. I mentioned 8Player, but I just discovered that the newest version of Synology's free ios app, DS Audio, will also work perfectly, and will push media files to an Oppo player.

What are your thoughts on push vs pull with the oppo and a server.
post #9074 of 10150
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Originally Posted by Slinkee View Post

What are your thoughts on push vs pull with the oppo and a server.
I'd much rather "push" a media file to an Oppo player than "pull" from a dlna server. You have to use Oppo's onscreen interface to "pull" media files from a dlna server. I don't like having my tv on when playing music, and I also think the Oppo onscreen interface is "clunky". "Pushing" files is the way to go. You then don't need your tv on, and if you can find an embedded dlna server (i.e. Synology media server), you won't even need your pc running. An ios or android app running on your portable electronic device (iPhone, iPad, etc) can attach to an active dlna media server on your home network and "push" files to your Oppo player.

I think it's fantastic that I can "push" dsd audio files (dsf/dff) to an Oppo player using the JRiver Media server now (first time today I can do that). I'm trying to find a way to push dsd audio to the Oppo using the Synology Media Server, but so far no go....
Edited by DanF8500 - 2/8/14 at 12:50pm
post #9075 of 10150
Thanks Dan!
post #9076 of 10150
Will the 105 be able to support 60hz on 4k with a HDMI 2.0 cable? or would I have to buy a whole new blu-ray player for that..
post #9077 of 10150
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Originally Posted by LairdWilliams View Post

Ok - so those are two pretty-much entirely different things, so it is no surprise that one works and the other does not.
Have you installed the windows driver that lets windows use the Oppo as its "sound card"? You need that. No software on the PC, including JRiver, will play via the USB connection unless the USB driver for the Oppo is installed. Go here: http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-105/blu-ray-BDP-105-Support.aspx and follow the instructions for "Software Driver for USB Audio DAC:"
That won't make any difference until 30 days from now when the temporary license times out.

Matt
[/quote]

Thanks for the information and the link for the drivers. I will try that and thanks again for the response.
post #9078 of 10150
I know this has been covered before so please forgive me for this question but I am just not for sure why this is happening. I decided to try hooking my Oppo 105 directly to a 2 channel amp that I am using on my front speakers. I am using the XLR dedicated stereo outs on the 105 and the sound is fantastic but I am not getting any bass from my subs. I do have the stereo signal set to Front Left/Right but no sound from the subs.

Bob Pariseau has been a big help on this subject. I also have the unbalanced stereo outs of the 105 going to the same amp and the bass from the subs is there. I just wanted to see how connecting directly to the amp would sound and it is really does make a difference. Very detailed and clean sound is evident. Thanks for any help.
post #9079 of 10150
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Set the Max Volume on the 105 to something below 100.

Bad assumption. You can use the Dedicated RCA connectors, just not the XLR's. XLR's provide a +6db boost over the RCA's.

Why not the XLR it would be nice to use all the DACs?
post #9080 of 10150
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Why not the XLR it would be nice to use all the DACs?

You can use the XLR outputs with a 2 - channel amp.
post #9081 of 10150
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Originally Posted by mdanderson View Post

I know this has been covered before so please forgive me for this question but I am just not for sure why this is happening. I decided to try hooking my Oppo 105 directly to a 2 channel amp that I am using on my front speakers. I am using the XLR dedicated stereo outs on the 105 and the sound is fantastic but I am not getting any bass from my subs. I do have the stereo signal set to Front Left/Right but no sound from the subs.

Bob Pariseau has been a big help on this subject. I also have the unbalanced stereo outs of the 105 going to the same amp and the bass from the subs is there. I just wanted to see how connecting directly to the amp would sound and it is really does make a difference. Very detailed and clean sound is evident. Thanks for any help.
https://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=15&ProdID=BDP-95
post #9082 of 10150

Thanks for the link. It turns out my front speakers were set to large for some reason. I changed them to small but still no bass from the subs. I will keep working on it. Thanks again.
post #9083 of 10150
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Originally Posted by mdanderson View Post

Thanks for the link. It turns out my front speakers were set to large for some reason. I changed them to small but still no bass from the subs. I will keep working on it. Thanks again.
Once you set your speakers to small, you're going to need +15 db of gain on your subwoofer to bring it up to he same level as your other speakers. And if you're using the 105's xlr stereo outs, you'll need an additional 6 db of gain, for a total of 21 db of gain applied to your sub.
post #9084 of 10150
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Once you set your speakers to small, you're going to need +15 db of gain on your subwoofer to bring it up to he same level as your other speakers. And if you're using the 105's xlr stereo outs, you'll need an additional 6 db of gain, for a total of 21 db of gain applied to your sub.

Thanks for that additional info.
post #9085 of 10150
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Any thing I should watch out for before I do that to make sure I don't fry my speakers or amps?

 

Yes.  Every time you power up, check your volume control is at a reasonable setting before playing anything.

post #9086 of 10150
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Hello,

My AV Pre-Pro has to go in for repair! So I need to plug in my amps straight to the BDP-105 ?

Any thing I should watch out for before I do that to make sure I don't fry my speakers or amps?

Also I assume I can use the L/R XLR and the five RCA remaining channels yes, or do I need to plug only the RCAs?

Thank you for the help

To be completely safe:

  1. Power off your amp
  2. Enter the Oppo Setup
  3. Change the Audio Processing Settings | Output Volume (Page 73) to Variable
  4. Set the Power On Volume and Max Volume as desired.
  5. Exit Setup
  6. Check your current volume
  7. Power on your amp


You are good to go.

- Rich
post #9087 of 10150
Okay, I have an interesting situation. OPPO connected to B&K ref 50s2 via multi-channel analog out to multi-channel analog in. While setting the speaker trim levels I found the test tones from the OPPO work fine and respond to the trim adjustments. However, when I try to make trim adjustments while playing the PentatTone multi-channel SACD, none of the channels respond to any adjustments. The various channels do respond to trim adjustments when playing other material such as Joe Bonamassa. I can easily hear the change in volume on each channel. Yet, when I go back to the PentaTone disk - no response. I'm still waiting for the AIX calibration disk to arrive. Probably user error some how but I'm at a loss for now. Any thoughts?

Chuck


Possibly related to SACD??
Edited by CHHill - 2/8/14 at 5:00pm
post #9088 of 10150
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

To be completely safe:

  1. Power off your amp
  2. Enter the Oppo Setup
  3. Change the Audio Processing Settings | Output Volume (Page 73) to Variable
  4. Set the Power On Volume and Max Volume as desired.
  5. Exit Setup
  6. Check your current volume
  7. Power on your amp


You are good to go.

- Rich

Great thank you all!
post #9089 of 10150
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

You can use the XLR outputs with a 2 - channel amp.

I have monoblocks in the front three Classe CA-M600
post #9090 of 10150
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

I have monoblocks in the front three Classe CA-M600
If you use the XLR outputs, you'll just need to compensate for those channels being 6dB louder than the other channels.
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