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post #9121 of 10200
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

What speaker configuration do you have? 2.1, 5.1, 7.1...?

7.2
post #9122 of 10200
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Try the Beta 68-1225 Firmware

Remove the Wireless Dongle from the player and playback the same WAV files and see if the same issues occur.

Thanks for the advice.

Problem partly solved :

Native Instrument Traktor Pro software is adding some "tag" to every file that is analyzed and played... and that's what corrupted my library. There is a way to remove those tags and get the songs back "prior"state if it's also removed from the Traktor library. That bug is new as I wasn't getting any error before software version 2.6.7.

The good thing is now I can play em again on my Oppo 105 or via network.
post #9123 of 10200
Just wanted to know if i should get this player cuz right now im using my ps3 and my onkyo 809 will i notice a huge diffrence
post #9124 of 10200
Hi. Is it possible to use xlr analogs out for dedicated stereo cd playback and surround sound 3.1 setup (without the fl/fr output). Or different ways of asking. I have a pair of active monitors with only xlr balanced inputs and I would like to add the center, rear left, rear right and sub out for surround sound. Thank you in advance.
post #9125 of 10200
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Originally Posted by chriznatch View Post

5.1 for movies/TV; 2.1 for music.

This is the way I have mine setup. It works for me. These are just guidelines.

Make sure you are running the latest Firmware.

Connect all of your speakers to the Multi-Channel Analog Outputs. Go into the Setup Menu > Audio Processing > Speaker Configuration. Front Speaker to small, Subwoofer to On. You want to Down Mix to 5.1. Turn off the SBL and SBR speakers. That information will be downmixed into the SL and SR speakers. Exit the Speaker Configuration.

Now, set DRC to Off, DTS NEO:6 Mode Off, Output Volume Variable, Power On Volume Last, Max Volume to something below 100, Stereo Signal to Down-Mixed Stereo.
post #9126 of 10200
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Originally Posted by jaydee2008 View Post

Hi. Is it possible to use xlr analogs out for dedicated stereo cd playback and surround sound 3.1 setup (without the fl/fr output). Or different ways of asking. I have a pair of active monitors with only xlr balanced inputs and I would like to add the center, rear left, rear right and sub out for surround sound. Thank you in advance.

You can do that. But...

You will have to compensate for the XLR Outputs being +6db hotter than the RCA Outputs.
post #9127 of 10200
Thankyou for replying. My active speaker have sensitivity control so I could wind it down. So at what setting could I have both xlr stereo and/or surround sound. I read the manual and I could be wrong that I either hookup the stereo or the 5.1/7.1 output.
post #9128 of 10200
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Originally Posted by jaydee2008 View Post

Thankyou for replying. My active speaker have sensitivity control so I could wind it down. So at what setting could I have both xlr stereo and/or surround sound. I read the manual and I could be wrong that I either hookup the stereo or the 5.1/7.1 output.

I would suggest getting an SPL meter and calibrating all of your speakers to 75db at the Main Listening Position.

For your XLR mains, hook them up to the XLR Outputs from the 105. The other speakers will be hooked up to the 5.1 Audio Outputs.
Edited by Mongo171 - 2/10/14 at 7:34am
post #9129 of 10200
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Originally Posted by jaydee2008 View Post

Hi. Is it possible to use xlr analogs out for dedicated stereo cd playback and surround sound 3.1 setup (without the fl/fr output). Or different ways of asking. I have a pair of active monitors with only xlr balanced inputs and I would like to add the center, rear left, rear right and sub out for surround sound. Thank you in advance.
Adding a center, rear L/R, and sub to your Front L/R speakers is considered a 5.1 configuration. I am a little thrown off by your wording for what you want to achieve from the 105.......your front main speakers will always be active for all speaker configurations. I need to ask you a further question: do you want the sub to kick in on 2-channel, stereo audio? If yes, do you want just the lower frequencies to go to your sub, or do you want low frequencies to go to both your sub and your Front L/R speakers? Or do you just want to hear the full range audio from your Front L/R speakers without your sub for 2-ch audio?
Edited by DanF8500 - 2/10/14 at 8:28am
post #9130 of 10200
What are the steps for a Netflix into my 105

Will the settings for my two channel audio be effected (using XLR connections for 2 channel audio)

I would like to use HDMI out to TV for Netflix

Also is it better to use wireless or wired
post #9131 of 10200
Thankyou Dan.
Let me explain what i got and going to buy and what i would like to achieve using the getting 105.
Small room 3x4m
90% stereo cd playback using active focal twin6be and active sub with level and xover control.
Would like to add 3 channels (rear and centre) surround sound setup via existing stereo and sub.
Will be buying 3x behringer 5A active speakers for the above.
Im trying to minimise the space and equipment hence NO pre,power or av receiver.
So what is the advice to have both with stereo and surround sound without having to connect the stereo pair to the surround FL/FR output.
Any advice would be much appriciated.
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My Oppo-105 is having problems playing back music from external hard drives connected through the USB port.  When I first got the Oppo, I connected a hard drive through one of the rear USB ports.  I could access and play the music, but the tracks would skip.  Three to four times per album, mid-song, the sound would go silent for 1-2 seconds, then the song would resume.  I can't really get into music when it skips like that, so I was pretty disappointed.

 

I thought maybe it was just an issue with the particular drive I was using, so I went out and bought a thumb drive.  I loaded up some songs, plugged it into the USB port on the back of the Oppo, and hit play.  This time the songs played just fine -- no skipping.  

 

No thumb drive will be able to store my music collection, so I went out and bought a Seagate 1 TB external storage drive.  I was hoping it would give me the storage capacity of the first hard drive I tried, but without the skipping.  But it turns out I have a completely new and different problem with this one.  I loaded it up with music and plugged it into the rear USB port.  Turned on the Oppo, and on the home screen it showed "USB" in the upper right-hand corner.  Went to the Music icon on the home page, opened the directory, and the drive didn't show up at all.  Instead, there's an entry for "EFI."  I opened EFI, but there was no music -- just an Oppo media info folder.  I opened that, and there was nothing in it.

 

Any ideas?  Does the Oppo not recognize hard drives formatted for Mac?  My Mac wouldn't let me transfer music to the drive until I formatted it for Mac.  But if that's the problem, I'm just out of luck, because I don't have a PC.  I've tried other playback solutions.  I hooked my Mac directly to the Oppo through the Asynchronous USB, but every time I hit play I get a loud burst of white noise through my speakers.  Oppo tech support confirmed that this is a "known observation" caused by some issue between their latest firmware and the Mac OS -- to be fixed in some future firmware update.  Who knows when though.  I guess I can stream from my Mac, but that's not an ideal solution because I was hoping to store my music on an external drive (my Mac hard drive is near full).  And anyway, all of the Oppo playback modes and connections should work -- whether for Mac or PC.  Maybe they do work, and I'm just doing something wrong again.  But if anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd really appreciate it.  Many thanks.

post #9133 of 10200
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Originally Posted by jaydee2008 View Post

Thankyou Dan.
Let me explain what i got and going to buy and what i would like to achieve using the getting 105.
Small room 3x4m
90% stereo cd playback using active focal twin6be and active sub with level and xover control.
Would like to add 3 channels (rear and centre) surround sound setup via existing stereo and sub.
Will be buying 3x behringer 5A active speakers for the above.
Im trying to minimise the space and equipment hence NO pre,power or av receiver.
So what is the advice to have both with stereo and surround sound without having to connect the stereo pair to the surround FL/FR output.
Any advice would be much appriciated.
Wow! I've never heard of anyone wanting to set up a surround sound home theater with all active speakers. I just can't even vision how this would look in your living area. It seems like it would be a big mess. I know you said you have a small room, but you'll need 6 power cables (one for each speaker), and 6 long rca/xlr cables.....Hey, but you won't need any speaker cables...biggrin.gif I would not recommend a setup like this, no matter how small a space you have. It's much easier and clean to run speaker cable instead of power cables and analog interconnects around your living area.
Edited by DanF8500 - 2/10/14 at 5:15pm
post #9134 of 10200
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Originally Posted by silveramp View Post

What are the steps for a Netflix into my 105

Will the settings for my two channel audio be effected (using XLR connections for 2 channel audio)

I would like to use HDMI out to TV for Netflix

Also is it better to use wireless or wired

Not quite sure on the questions. Netflix comes pre-loaded on the 105. You can access it on the Home Menu.

All depends how your system is configured. Sound will come out of the XLR Outputs. All Outputs are live on the 105.

I recommend HDMI 1 Out to your TV.

If you can get a strong signal from you home WiFi system, you can go wireless.
post #9135 of 10200
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Originally Posted by chriznatch View Post

My Oppo-105 is having problems playing back music from external hard drives connected through the USB port.  When I first got the Oppo, I connected a hard drive through one of the rear USB ports.  I could access and play the music, but the tracks would skip.  Three to four times per album, mid-song, the sound would go silent for 1-2 seconds, then the song would resume.  I can't really get into music when it skips like that, so I was pretty disappointed.

I thought maybe it was just an issue with the particular drive I was using, so I went out and bought a thumb drive.  I loaded up some songs, plugged it into the USB port on the back of the Oppo, and hit play.  This time the songs played just fine -- no skipping.  

No thumb drive will be able to store my music collection, so I went out and bought a Seagate 1 TB external storage drive.  I was hoping it would give me the storage capacity of the first hard drive I tried, but without the skipping.  But it turns out I have a completely new and different problem with this one.  I loaded it up with music and plugged it into the rear USB port.  Turned on the Oppo, and on the home screen it showed "USB" in the upper right-hand corner.  Went to the Music icon on the home page, opened the directory, and the drive didn't show up at all.  Instead, there's an entry for "EFI."  I opened EFI, but there was no music -- just an Oppo media info folder.  I opened that, and there was nothing in it.

Any ideas?  Does the Oppo not recognize hard drives formatted for Mac?  My Mac wouldn't let me transfer music to the drive until I formatted it for Mac.  But if that's the problem, I'm just out of luck, because I don't have a PC.  I've tried other playback solutions.  I hooked my Mac directly to the Oppo through the Asynchronous USB, but every time I hit play I get a loud burst of white noise through my speakers.  Oppo tech support confirmed that this is a "known observation" caused by some issue between their latest firmware and the Mac OS -- to be fixed in some future firmware update.  Who knows when though.  I guess I can stream from my Mac, but that's not an ideal solution because I was hoping to store my music on an external drive (my Mac hard drive is near full).  And anyway, all of the Oppo playback modes and connections should work -- whether for Mac or PC.  Maybe they do work, and I'm just doing something wrong again.  But if anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd really appreciate it.  Many thanks.

I use a 1TB Seagate, formatted by my Mac as FAT32. Copy music (finder copy...) to it from my computer, plays fine on my 105. I export selected music to folders from my iTunes library using an Applescript app.
post #9136 of 10200
Hi Dan. Thanks for the advice. Since i have not brought any new gears yet other than what i currently have is a rca variable out cd player with rca-XLR connected to active speakers. A spare avtive sub not used. What im thinking is replace the cdp with 105 and add surround sound on top of it. I might take Dans suggestion and adding a 3 channel amp driving the surround without compromise the dedicated stereo setup if its doable with the oppo. Cheers
post #9137 of 10200

Did you use a specific sector size when you formatted the usb jump drive using Fat32?  I am having similar problems.

post #9138 of 10200
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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post


I use a 1TB Seagate, formatted by my Mac as FAT32. Copy music (finder copy...) to it from my computer, plays fine on my 105. I export selected music to folders from my iTunes library using an Applescript app.

Thanks.  I guess this is an issue for Oppo technical support then.  I really love the way the Oppo sounds when it actually decides to play music.  More often than not, I can't make it do so without hours of trying to figure out how to set it up, what settings to use, why it will work with one drive and not the other, why it will stream certain file types but not others … the list goes on and on.  One headache after another.  I just want to listen to music without the constant hassle.  It's very frustrating.

post #9139 of 10200
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Wow! I've never heard of anyone wanting to set up a surround sound home theater with all active speakers. I just can't even vision how this would look in your living area. It seems like it would be a big mess. I know you said you have a small room, but you'll need 6 power cables (one for each speaker), and 6 long rca/xlr cables.....Hey, but you won't need any speaker cables...biggrin.gif I would not recommend a setup like this, no matter how small a space you have. It's much easier and clean to run speaker cable instead of power cables and analog interconnects around your living area.

I disagree, I think if you have power plugs at the right places you actually get a much cleaner look, plus long XLR cables are favorable over long speaker cables. In addition you don't need an amp wink.gif

One day I might just get seven FOCAL SOLO 6Be biggrin.gif
post #9140 of 10200
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

I disagree, I think if you have power plugs at the right places you actually get a much cleaner look, plus long XLR cables are favorable over long speaker cables. In addition you don't need an amp wink.gif

One day I might just get seven FOCAL SOLO 6Be biggrin.gif
I know you're joking...hahaha biggrin.gif You've got a great HT system!!
post #9141 of 10200
Hi to those long time avs blogger. Im quite new to this site. There are 305 pages in this article and i only ramdomly read a few pages here and there. Is there a search for this article for the words that will tell which pages to look up.
My concern is could the 105 redirect surround fl/fr to the stereo output and still keeping other surround channels active and all the above output with volume control.?
post #9142 of 10200
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Originally Posted by jaydee2008 View Post

Hi to those long time avs blogger. Im quite new to this site. There are 305 pages in this article and i only ramdomly read a few pages here and there. Is there a search for this article for the words that will tell which pages to look up.
My concern is could the 105 redirect surround fl/fr to the stereo output and still keeping other surround channels active and all the above output with volume control.?

I think what you are asking is?... Can the dedicated stereo output be in a downmixed configuration so that all channels are downmixed to the front L/R speakers?... the answer is YES.
AND... you also want the other analog channels to be active at the same time, and YES, that is possible too and YES, you can do it it all at the same time.
HOWEVER, if you want to do this, you will need to setup your cabling and amps so that you are using the stereo output totally separate from the other channels.
You will have to do a 2CH setup with the dedicated stereo output, then an additional (5.1/7.1) setup using the the other analog outputs.
(If you try to combine them in the downmix configuration, you will get surround info from both the surrounds AND from the front L/R,
and that wouldn't be a good thing, so that is why you would need 2 different setups to use both configurations)
post #9143 of 10200
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Originally Posted by jaydee2008 View Post

Hi to those long time avs blogger. Im quite new to this site. There are 305 pages in this article and i only ramdomly read a few pages here and there. Is there a search for this article for the words that will tell which pages to look up.
My concern is could the 105 redirect surround fl/fr to the stereo output and still keeping other surround channels active and all the above output with volume control.?
Sorry, I forgot to answer your questions earlier. The 105 has 2 analog sections...the multi-channel section and the dedicated stereo section.

The speaker configuration menu is for setting up the multi-ch analog section only. There's settings such as speaker size, distance, trim for each speaker in your home system, along with a down-mix setting....speaker size is important if you want to do bass management, and utilize a crossover for your sub...read the manual further for more info...

The dedicated stereo section is only affected by the "Stereo Signal" setting. The "Stereo Signal" can be either "down-mixed stereo" or "Front L/R". Down-mixed stereo is basic, full range 2-channel audio or multi-channel audio down-mixed to 2 channels. The "Front L/R" setting will take the FL and FR channels from the multi-ch analog section, and play them out the dedicated 2-channel output section. This is the setting you probably want and are asking about....

There's an audio processing mode on the 105 you might be interested in...it's called DTS NEO:6. It will expand original 2-ch audio sources to your multi-ch surround/center/sub channels also. I've never used this DSP feature before.
Edited by DanF8500 - 2/10/14 at 11:16pm
post #9144 of 10200
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View PostSorry, I forgot to answer your questions earlier. The 105 has 2 analog sections...the multi-channel section and the dedicated stereo section.

The speaker configuration menu is for setting up the multi-ch analog section only. There's settings such as speaker size, distance, trim for each speaker in your home system, along with a down-mix setting....speaker size is important if you want to do bass management, and utilize a crossover for your sub...read the manual further for more info...

The dedicated stereo section is only affected by the "Stereo Signal" setting. The "Stereo Signal" can be either "down-mixed stereo" or "Front L/R". Down-mixed stereo is basic, full range 2-channel audio or multi-channel audio down-mixed to 2 channels. The "Front L/R" setting will take the FL and FR channels from the multi-ch analog section, and play them out the dedicated 2-channel output section. This is the setting you probably want and are asking about....
Yes this would be a great upgrade for the next OPPO

Only multi-ch audio will play out of your surround speakers...the 105 doesn't create simulated channels/special effects from 2-channel audio. You'll need a pre-pro to do something like that.
post #9145 of 10200
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Yes this would be a great upgrade for the next OPPO

Only multi-ch audio will play out of your surround speakers...the 105 doesn't create simulated channels/special effects from 2-channel audio. You'll need a pre-pro to do something like that.
I know you would like that with your 7.2 config. I'm a purist.....if I'm listening to 2- channel audio, I only want to hear it from 2 channels....wink.gif
post #9146 of 10200
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Originally Posted by wse View Post


Actually, Oppo has DTS NEO 6 - which converts 2-channel into multi-channel music. However, it's very limited as you can't really control anything, such as depth or width. This is the only reason I've kept my McIntosh MX-119. It has Dolby Pro Logic IIx - which is great for turning 2-channel music into multi-channel since it allows controlling the fields.
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

I know you would like that with your 7.2 config. I'm a purist.....if I'm listening to 2- channel audio, I only want to hear it from 2 channels....wink.gif

I'm with Wes on this one. This is a highly personal and subjective preference. 90% of my listening is background while I'm working. Also, when having friends over and socializing, it's nice to have some music from all the speakers. I would like to see Oppo expand on this feature. Then I could get rid of my pre/pro!

But I understand your 2-channel preference. During critical listening, I prefer it too.
post #9147 of 10200
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

I know you would like that with your 7.2 config. I'm a purist.....if I'm listening to 2- channel audio, I only want to hear it from 2 channels....wink.gif

Me too, but every once in a while I like something different...
On an old avr I used to have it had what was called "6CH STEREO".
It would use your 7.1 system, but not use the center channel, and split the audio putting the left channel into the L/SL/SBL, and the right channel into the R/SR/SBR.
So it was still stereo, but if you sat in the middle of all the speakers, it sounded pretty cool. cool.gif
post #9148 of 10200
^^ Thanks for informing me of that DTS NEO:6 mode. Probably a setting I'll never use, but it's good to know it exists....
post #9149 of 10200
Thankyou for those answering my post.

I still dont think Im asking the right questions (English as my 2nd language) and the answers does not seems to be what I want.
Let me ask again

1. My primary is stereo listening via a 2 channel analogue output of the oppo 105 when listening to a typical CD. and like this setup untouch and wouldn't want any down mixed stuff.

2. I would like to connect my active sub via oppo 105 on top of the above.

3. Now I just like to be able to put in a Blu ray movie disc with DTS or dolby and have surround sound.
(assuming Im going to buy a 3 channel power amp and 3 speakers for rear L/R and centre)

Is it workable?

Or do I need to compromise my Stereo setup and connect my stereo speakers to the surround sound FL/FR to get a full 5.1 surround sound?

Im basically avoiding getting a preamp and HT receiver if Oppo can do the above. Because i always been using 1 single source that is my cdp and i was inform that oppo 105 can be used as a preamp.

Hope this will clear up what I want to accomplish. Thankyou
Edited by jaydee2008 - 2/11/14 at 12:00am
post #9150 of 10200
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Originally Posted by jaydee2008 View Post

Thankyou for those answering my post.

I still dont think Im asking the right questions (English as my 2nd language) and the answers does not seems to be what I want.
Let me ask again

1. My primary is stereo listening via a 2 channel analogue output of the oppo 105 when listening to a typical CD. and like this setup untouch and wouldn't want any down mixed stuff.

2. I would like to connect my active sub via oppo 105 on top of the above.

3. Now I just like to be able to put in a Blu ray movie disc with DTS or dolby and have surround sound.
(assuming Im going to buy a 3 channel power amp and 3 speakers for rear L/R and centre)

Is it workable?

Or do I need to compromise my Stereo setup and connect my stereo speakers to the surround sound FL/FR to get a full 5.1 surround sound?

Im basically avoiding getting a preamp and HT receiver if Oppo can do the above. Because i always been using 1 single source that is my cdp and i was inform that oppo 105 can be used as a preamp.

Hope this will clear up what I want to accomplish. Thankyou

1) Yes you can use the dedicated stereo analog output for 2 channel audio. That is what that output is for.
2) Yes, not a problem, you can use the built in frequency crossover to send what frequencies you want to the sub.
3) Yes, you can do that too. Just use the dedicated stereo output for the front L/R, and then connect the other channels on the RCA analog outputs.
If connected properly, you will be able to have all channels connected, and use the dedicated stereo output for both CDs and for Blu-ray/DVD.

You won't have to compromise your setup,. The BDP-105 can do all of that.
As you said also, the player can be used as a pre-amp too. You just connect the analog outputs directly to power amps.
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