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post #121 of 187
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Not to start a flame war ... But it is actually possible for a PSU to be a good PSU without being MFG by Seasonic (Gasp) eek.gif

But realistically, If you can grab a Seasonic for a good price it's like a "no brainer"

My HTPC has an Antec Neo 400watt, and I paid $29 for it. This is the kind of HTPC PSU people should be looking for because you don't need tons of watts, or SLI power cables, modular design or anything like that.
The Seasonic actual brand or the other variants it makes other than the Neo are good choices. As is the MKII.

I'd say any 300-400 watt Seasonic Variant under $50 is the ultimate HTPC.

I'm prob gonna grab the Seasonic 650 for my server but I want modular so I can max SATA power. The alternative was the Rosewill (cause I like too)
post #122 of 187
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

Time for a fact check
What 80PLUS really means
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80plus
Corsair CX430 built by Channel Well, not Seasonic
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=214
http://www.cwt.com.tw/

I cracked up at the picture.. . lol
post #123 of 187
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Both statements are incorrect.
Efficiency rating doesn't really matter if you aren't running at at least 20% rated capacity (and really would need to be 50% to get max efficiency) which is extremely important when many/most HTPCs run at well under 50w. Its been stated and argued many times that a 80+ PSU is almost the same as Gold for HTPC purposes. If you did go with the added expense of Gold *and* were able to run at 50% rated capacity it would still take many years to recoup the added expense that usually comes with purchasing a "Gold" PSU.
Also Corsair used to be made by Seasonic but this is no longer the case. At least for their 400-430w PSUs which were popular for HTPC (I still have one).
Well it's always nice to learn something new now
So for a 750w psu that is not gold but still energy efficient and silent and not expensive what are my choices?
post #124 of 187
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Well it's always nice to learn something new now
So for a 750w psu that is not gold but still energy efficient and silent what are my choices?

That is what is great about these forums.

What components will you be using? That's where you want to start -- figuring out the power draw so you can size the PSU accordingly. Ideally you size it for 2x your normal load.

In ATX form, the smallest 80+ PSU you'll find is 300W.

It might be best to bring this outside this Black Friday/Cyber Monday thread.
post #125 of 187
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I cracked up at the picture.. . lol

You know it was for you, bro (the adding the picture to a reply, not the thumbs down) smile.gif.
post #126 of 187
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Not to start a flame war ... But it is actually possible for a PSU to be a good PSU without being MFG by Seasonic (Gasp) eek.gif
But realistically, If you can grab a Seasonic for a good price it's like a "no brainer"
My HTPC has an Antec Neo 400watt, and I paid $29 for it. This is the kind of HTPC PSU people should be looking for because you don't need tons of watts, or SLI power cables, modular design or anything like that.
The Seasonic actual brand or the other variants it makes other than the Neo are good choices. As is the MKII.
I'd say any 300-400 watt Seasonic Variant under $50 is the ultimate HTPC.
I'm prob gonna grab the Seasonic 650 for my server but I want modular so I can max SATA power. The alternative was the Rosewill (cause I like too)

If you want a Seasonic-built modular the PC Cooling MKII 400W is a good choice. It's still going to be overkill for an Intel/AMD HTPC not using a discrete GPU though but it's closer than a 750W PSU.

Delta makes decent PSUs, Antec uses them (e.g. EA380D).

FSP makes good PSUs too.
post #127 of 187
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

That is what is great about these forums.
What components will you be using? That's where you want to start -- figuring out the power draw so you can size the PSU accordingly. Ideally you size it for 2x your normal load.
In ATX form, the smallest 80+ PSU you'll find is 300W.
It might be best to bring this outside this Black Friday/Cyber Monday thread.

I need a 750W PSU for the SuperMicro Chassis with 24 bays, which will be used as a storage server. Now cos the server houses 24 3TB bays, i will need somethihng beefy and super energy efficient. I already have a HTPC/Gaming machine that will be connected to this Storage server which houses a i7 2600k, 16gb ram and a Corsair Gold AX850 PSU.

Now cos the 24 bay SuperMicro chassis is a budget build.. i dont want to be spending more than 50-60 bucks on the PSU.
The Chassis comes with two PSU's but i will be removing the redundant PSU, and the main PSU, and want to swap it with a better PSU
post #128 of 187
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If you want a Seasonic-built modular the PC Cooling MKII 400W is a good choice. It's still going to be overkill for an Intel/AMD HTPC not using a discrete GPU though but it's closer than a 750W PSU.
Delta makes decent PSUs, Antec uses them (e.g. EA380D).
FSP makes good PSUs too.

The Tom's list says the mk II is made by sirtec. Go for the mk III
post #129 of 187
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

The Tom's list says the mk II is made by sirtec. Go for the mk III

My bad, I didn't put enough Is. This is the one I am referring to: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5844/pc-power-cooling-silencer-mk-iii-400w

Which is out-of-stock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703034
post #130 of 187
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

I need a 750W PSU for the SuperMicro Chassis with 24 bays, which will be used as a storage server. Now cos the server houses 24 3TB bays, i will need somethihng beefy and super energy efficient. I already have a HTPC/Gaming machine that will be connected to this Storage server which houses a i7 2600k, 16gb ram and a Corsair Gold AX850 PSU.
Now cos the 24 bay SuperMicro chassis is a budget build.. i dont want to be spending more than 50-60 bucks on the PSU.
The Chassis comes with two PSU's but i will be removing the redundant PSU, and the main PSU, and want to swap it with a better PSU

This would be the ideal, a nice single rail Seasonic Gold power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

The only $60 750W PSU I could find on Newegg is this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817189025 no idea about it though.
post #131 of 187
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This would be the ideal, a nice single rail Seasonic Gold power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087
The only $60 750W PSU I could find on Newegg is this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817189025 no idea about it though.

That Seasonic is a great PSU. Can't go wrong with any of their X series.
post #132 of 187
So we are talking seasonic gold certified here... smile.gif
post #133 of 187
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You know it was for you, bro (the adding the picture to a reply, not the thumbs down) smile.gif.



BTW.. you like that Jets game on Thanksgiving ??
post #134 of 187
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My bad, I didn't put enough Is. This is the one I am referring to: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5844/pc-power-cooling-silencer-mk-iii-400w
Which is out-of-stock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703034

But... PC POWER AND COOLING is owned by... (GASP) .....


wait for it... .




wait....



OCZ! eek.gif

I thought it must be automatically bad biggrin.gif
post #135 of 187
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

But... PC POWER AND COOLING is owned by... (GASP) .....
wait for it... .
wait....
OCZ! eek.gif
I thought it must be automatically bad biggrin.gif

No, only if it's an SSD. biggrin.gif
post #136 of 187
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

So we are talking seasonic gold certified here... smile.gif

Yes. Good as gold, as long as you don't use it with an HTPC that uses only 40W to watch videos biggrin.gif
post #137 of 187
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Yes. Good as gold, as long as you don't use it with an HTPC that uses only 40W to watch videos biggrin.gif

Thanks you're suggestions were helpful. you should be here on the forum more often. tongue.gif
99 dollars for a seasonic x gold class 750w psu is a great deal. Brought it.
Edited by holyindian - 11/27/12 at 11:42pm
post #138 of 187
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Thanks you're suggestions were helpful. you should be here on the forum more often. tongue.gif
99 dollars for a seasonic x gold class 750w psu is a great deal. Brought it.

I dunno, I think I am on here too much smile.gif.

Congrats on your new Seasonic!
post #139 of 187
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I dunno, I think I am on here too much smile.gif.
Congrats on your new Seasonic!

Yea thanks to you, i grabbed it when it was 99. Its 150 now. rolleyes.gif
post #140 of 187
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I'm gonna wait out this Black Friday. Not that I need anything critical, but I could pick up a few "nice to have" things.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this holiday season is gonna suck for the retailers, and we may see even lower prices by the end of the year. (And my suspicion is supported by the fact that the dollar's value has gone up almost 4% in ~ a month, and there are no signs of it slowing down).
But then....I do have "some" empty space left in the rack....tongue.giftongue.gif


I have not seen any good deals since black friday. Last week and this weekend are totally bust.

I am looking for a good PSU deal.
post #141 of 187
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I have not seen any good deals since black friday. Last week and this weekend are totally bust.
I am looking for a good PSU deal.

The seasonic X Gold series was a good one.. for both 650 and 750 watts, under 100. I brought the 750W for 99 bucks.
post #142 of 187
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The seasonic X Gold series was a good one.. for both 650 and 750 watts, under 100. I brought the 750W for 99 bucks.

I almost grabbed one but the X series seasonics now have really gone downhill.

Please no flamers.

They used to come with really nice sleeved cables but no more.
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Now the modular cables are cheap and pathetic. No more high quality connectors that you see in all the pics. These cords are anemic, not acceptable for the price. You get better quality in the cheapo Corsair builder units. To buoy margins, it appears we now must lower our expectations of the X-series going forward. No wonder why they've been on sale. Beware!
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I received mine yesterday also and noticed the same. The MB cable is like before and is all black, which is nice. The others are molded ribbon cables.

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Originally Posted by gdday4;34304094 
Photos

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdday4


I got scared away by thread here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=34304094#post34304094
Edited by Mfusick - 12/2/12 at 7:17pm
post #143 of 187
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I decided it wasn't worth 100$ or I could possibly do better.

The Rosewill platinum is that price normal price.

99$ for a 650 watt isn't that hard to find. I'm thinking I can grab a better variant for 20$ less if I keep my eyes out.

I've been watching a few.
post #144 of 187
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703036

15% and $20 off... 99 to $85 to 65$ AR.

Seems good price but still thinking it over. It's seasonic MFG.
post #145 of 187
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I got scared away by thread here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=34304094#post34304094

Looks like the people in that thread don't think its a really big deal.

Neither do I having used both sleeved and ribbon.
post #146 of 187
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Looks like the people in that thread don't think its a really big deal.
Neither do I having used both sleeved and ribbon.

That wasn't a total deal breaker just an added factor.

The mkIII is also $65 so given that I wasn't seeing the $99 as a good deal.

I felt I was simply paying for seasonic name.

I can buy a rebrand cheaper so if the quality of the seasonic is not superior I just second guessed it I guess.


It's not a huge deal. It's still a good PSU for $100.
post #147 of 187
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

That wasn't a total deal breaker just an added factor.
The mkIII is also $65 so given that I wasn't seeing the $99 as a good deal.
I felt I was simply paying for seasonic name.
I can buy a rebrand cheaper so if the quality of the seasonic is not superior I just second guessed it I guess.
It's not a huge deal. It's still a good PSU for $100.

Agreed.

The MKIII has ribbon cables as well though. You might want to edit your statement that Seasonic has "really gone downhill" though unless there is some other compelling reason for your statement.
post #148 of 187
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Agreed.
The MKIII has ribbon cables as well though. You might want to edit your statement that Seasonic has "really gone downhill" though unless there is some other compelling reason for your statement.

I don't agree. Seasonic used to come with nicer sleeved cables and now comes with cheaper ribbons.

It's always been more expensive.

I'm not choosing an MKIII cause its better quality than Seasonic. I'm choosing it cause its 45$ cheaper.

I feel they are about the same. I just want to keep the $45 extra.
post #149 of 187
I am install an MKIII in a Fractal Design Define Mini right now. It's a match made in heaven.
post #150 of 187
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I am install an MKIII in a Fractal Design Define Mini right now. It's a match made in heaven.

Where's the pictures man ? biggrin.gif
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