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post #31 of 42
I really wanted to like Harmony. It's a beautiful device but the lag kills it for HTPC use. It is horrendous out of the box but can be tweaked such that most users won't notice it. Still, some lag will always be present due to hardware limitation and if you are a perfectionist like me it will annoy you!
My URC WR7 arrives this week so hoping for better luck. I will gladly sacrifice the nice PC interface for programming if the hardware is better. Fingers crossed!
post #32 of 42
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Originally Posted by chappy16775 View Post

I really wanted to like Harmony. It's a beautiful device but the lag kills it for HTPC use. It is horrendous out of the box but can be tweaked such that most users won't notice it. Still, some lag will always be present due to hardware limitation and if you are a perfectionist like me it will annoy you!
My URC WR7 arrives this week so hoping for better luck. I will gladly sacrifice the nice PC interface for programming if the hardware is better. Fingers crossed!

While my 550 has a little bit of lag (I think because it's going through an IR splitter), by 650 has absolutely no lag on my HTPC. Have you tried changing the interkey delay and/or the repeat number?
post #33 of 42
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Originally Posted by lockdown571 View Post

While my 550 has a little bit of lag (I think because it's going through an IR splitter), by 650 has absolutely no lag on my HTPC. Have you tried changing the interkey delay and/or the repeat number?

Yes I have changed those settings.
The key test is to scroll through a list. Using the Harmony 650 if you press the down key 10 times in quick succession it will keep scrolling for a short while after you stop. It does not do that on the original MCE remote (i.e. the remote is quick enough to "keep up with you").

What receiver are you using? I'm using the RC6 receiver which came with my MCE remote.


Thanks
Edited by chappy16775 - 11/20/12 at 9:28am
post #34 of 42
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Originally Posted by chappy16775 View Post

Yes I have changed those settings.
The key test is to scroll through a list. Using the Harmony 650 if you press the down key 10 times in quick succession it will keep scrolling for a short while after you stop. It does not do that on the original MCE remote.
What receiver are you using? I'm using the RC6 receiver which came with my MCE remote.
Thanks

I use the receiver that comes with this remote. I'm out of town so I can't do the scrolling test you described right now.
post #35 of 42
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Originally Posted by chappy16775 View Post

Yes I have changed those settings.
The key test is to scroll through a list. Using the Harmony 650 if you press the down key 10 times in quick succession it will keep scrolling for a short while after you stop. It does not do that on the original MCE remote.
What receiver are you using? I'm using the RC6 receiver which came with my MCE remote.
Thanks

I'm assuming it will until it reaches the item on the 10th key press. Why would you press it 10 times and expect it to stop at 7? confused.gif
post #36 of 42
I am using Harmony 610, and the "return" button, as well as some number buttons are not responding anymore. However, I have used it for 3 or 4 years, and had a newborn chew on it in that time. So, it is acceptable to me. Going to replace it with 650 that is going to be $39.99 on Black Friday.
post #37 of 42
We all use remotes differently. I try to avoid that situation by using page up/down for big skips instead of machine gunning the arrow buttons, but that's just me. Harmony does have a tiny lag as well as a buffer that you'll never get rid of. Simpler remotes like URC, UEI and OEM remotes always have zero lag. I'd trade a little lag for macro capability and ease of use any day. But I don't use harmony remotes either, for different reasons (cost, macro limitations, longevity).
post #38 of 42
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We all use remotes differently. I try to avoid that situation by using page up/down for big skips instead of machine gunning the arrow buttons, but that's just me. Harmony does have a tiny lag as well as a buffer that you'll never get rid of. Simpler remotes like URC, UEI and OEM remotes always have zero lag. I'd trade a little lag for macro capability and ease of use any day. But I don't use harmony remotes either, for different reasons (cost, macro limitations, longevity).

Exactly. The tiny lag with the Harmony is fine for some but not for others.
For me, I'm willing to trade ease of setup (which is theory is a one-time activity) for zero lag.

The good news is that there is something out there for everybody. Lots of choices.
post #39 of 42
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W7 on order, hopefully it will work as other have had good luck with it.
post #40 of 42
Thread Starter 
Got my W7 programmed. Awesome remote for $20, highly recommended. Dos just about everything my harmony did, although I did have to copy some custom commands to my W7 that I had set up on my Harmony.
post #41 of 42
Another vote for the WR7. We have 4 XBMC instances (a mix of OpenElec and Windows), 3 receivers, 3 flat panels, and a projector and each has its respective WR7 remote that works with everything. I also love the Harmony's, but with kids and tile floors, they are prohibitively expensive. With the WR7, I can afford to have a spare on hand.

In addition to the WR7, I also have been able to match up most of the DirecTV remote to keys to mirror the WR7. If the WR7 is missing or out of reach, the DTV remote will usually work.

If the WR7 had RF that could control the DTV, it would be perfect.
post #42 of 42
I've had reboot issues with my Harmony 600 and 650 as well. I also thought both were particularly hard on batteries since replacing batteries always seems to fix the problem for a month or two... I'd just moved to rechargeable and kept a pool of 8 or so dedicated to the remotes so I always have charged replacements on hand. I'll try the battery spring stretch and see if that helps. I have four (4) Harmony remotes around the house (models 900, 650, 600, and 200) and the battery drain issue on the 650/600 and a swollen battery on the 900 after about 2 years have been the only problems I've had. I'm about to pick up another 200 or 300 for use in the kids' room since adding a cable box. The 600, 650, and 900 are all used with HTPC (XBMC, Windows and OpenElec) and the 200 is used with an ATV2 (XBMC).
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