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QUICK Question - epson 5010 (tw9000) 2d to 3d - curved edges!?? picture added

post #1 of 16
11/17/12 at 9:41am
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Hello. I'm not sure if my projector is a bit faulty. Look at the edges here in 2d to 3d mode (picture from computer). They are curved a bit as you can see.


Is my projector faulty??

Thanks for answers!
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post #2 of 16
11/17/12 at 9:52am
I think it would be better if you shot the images with a scoped lens view from the 3d glasses
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post #3 of 16
11/17/12 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by Deuteronomy31:6 View Post

I think it would be better if you shot the images with a scoped lens view from the 3d glasses
Okey I will try but can you see without glasses if edges should be bent like that? They are also more to one side as you can see.. Hmm
I don't have time to post the glasses image right now have to go someplace but answer if you can please with these images
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post #4 of 16
11/17/12 at 10:07am
Have you verified that the front of the projector is aligned with the screen?
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post #5 of 16
11/17/12 at 3:01pm
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Have you verified that the front of the projector is aligned with the screen?
We'll, I have and it is at least quite in the center. I even tested turning projector to right and left, aswell as moving lens shift to right and left, but the curved edges stay exactely the same.
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post #6 of 16
11/17/12 at 3:59pm
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I have now turned it all to the left, and to the right (one meter or many foot in each direction). Also shifted lens shift the same amount to either side.

Here is the screen inside the glasses (through glass on one side of glasses):

As you can see it really does look curved either side of folder. I am also noticing quite a lot of crosstalk in 3d movies I haven't seen before...

Do you think my projector in 3d is broken???
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post #7 of 16
11/18/12 at 8:48am
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post #8 of 16
11/18/12 at 9:20am
Put a white piece of paper about a foot or two away and see if the curve is there.
This should help determine if it the lens or a possible placement issue.
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post #9 of 16
11/18/12 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

Put a white piece of paper about a foot or two away and see if the curve is there.
This should help determine if it the lens or a possible placement issue.
Where should I put the piece of paper, in front of the lens so nothing hits the actual screen?
Thanks for the answer, appreciated!
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post #10 of 16
11/18/12 at 5:27pm
Yes, use the paper as the screen to project on.
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post #11 of 16
11/18/12 at 5:39pm
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Yes, use the paper as the screen to project on.
Yes, I just put in infront and it was fuzzy but I could still see the bent sides. So what do you think??

edit: I now also tested moving lens shift all the way up (horizontal lensshift centered like normal) and down, the edges bent to right (on both sides of screen) stay intact. I'm really beginning to think I have to send it for repairs or something.
Edited by maxfilm - 11/18/12 at 6:19pm
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post #12 of 16
11/18/12 at 8:17pm
Def not a lense shift or keystone problem. I would send it in and get a replacement. This isn't normal. I've never seen this before. You sold also try the pattern test to see if you have a convergence problem on 2 pd Picts. I'm willing to bet tht the lines will be distorted around the sides.
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post #13 of 16
11/19/12 at 4:34am
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Originally Posted by Deuteronomy31:6 View Post

Def not a lense shift or keystone problem. I would send it in and get a replacement. This isn't normal. I've never seen this before. You sold also try the pattern test to see if you have a convergence problem on 2 pd Picts. I'm willing to bet tht the lines will be distorted around the sides.
Okey thanks for help. Will contact epson support to fix it.
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post #14 of 16
1/12/13 at 6:27am
Mine does something similar without the glasses or if I look through one lense, but looking through both lenses the 3d looks normal and straight. Studying it, it seems this is Epsons way of producing the 2d to 3d effect by using this technique in the bottom 3rd of the image to give more of a 3d effect in the foreground. The effect is noticeable in scenes of space with stars such as Starwars.
If not then mine must be faulty too. Not that fussed though as it's only 2d to 3d and it looks fine and I don't really plan on using it as it's a gimmick anyway. Normal 3d viewing is fine.
Anyone else seen this effect?
Edited by ashyt16 - 1/12/13 at 9:52am
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post #15 of 16
1/22/13 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by ashyt16 View Post

Mine does something similar without the glasses or if I look through one lense, but looking through both lenses the 3d looks normal and straight. Studying it, it seems this is Epsons way of producing the 2d to 3d effect by using this technique in the bottom 3rd of the image to give more of a 3d effect in the foreground. The effect is noticeable in scenes of space with stars such as Starwars.
If not then mine must be faulty too. Not that fussed though as it's only 2d to 3d and it looks fine and I don't really plan on using it as it's a gimmick anyway. Normal 3d viewing is fine.
Anyone else seen this effect?
I got it back from repairs. The curved image is still there (although crosstalk is less irritating now). Also wondering if everybode has this with this projector.

Can you see any crosstalk at all in normal 3d movies and if so where do you get the crosstalk?
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post #16 of 16
2/11/13 at 1:31pm
Yes I see crosstalk in some 3d movies. Some are worse than others but most are OK with minimal crosstalk. Tbh I don't see how crosstalk can be completely eliminated when the glasses themselves are only 1000:1 contrast ratio as you can still see the image even when the glasses are fully dark.
I typically see Cross talk in objects very close in the foreground and strangely on darker not lighter objects.

Did you get an explanation from epson as to whether the 2d to 3d is normal?
Edited by ashyt16 - 2/12/13 at 12:20pm
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