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post #121 of 1194
Will do Jim!
post #122 of 1194
Well I got the PB1000 hooked up and after a lot of testing and problem solving it looks like I got a lemon mad.gif I hooked it up to my external interface and had line outs from the sub going to my mains. The sub was barely noticeable at all but it did take out the low end frequencies on my studio monitors...with a little distortion and reduction in volume as well. Talked to Ed from SVS on the phone and he told me to get a 3.5 jack to RCA L/R and hook up my phone directly to the sub and see if it's the sub or my interface. After a trip to Radio Shack I found that at max volume on my phone, max volume on the sub, messing with the crossover, and several songs later, found out it was the sub. It sounded like my neighbor had the sub in his place, not in mine.

One other problem I noticed is when I tried to Y-split the signal from my external interface and have one go to the sub and the other go to my speakers, my speakers got super distorted with obvious cracking. This too was a problem from the sub. After detaching the sub from the Y-splitter, my studio monitors are back to normal and sounding great.

On a positive note, my experience with SVS support has been the best out of any company I've ever worked with. They really helped me identify the problems I was having and also said they'll send me a new sub first thing Monday, shipping included.

My question now is do I stay with SVS and get another - I really love their customer service and warranty - or do I spend an extra $100 and get the HSU VTF-2 MK4?
post #123 of 1194
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Originally Posted by Trace79 View Post

Well I got the PB1000 hooked up and after a lot of testing and problem solving it looks like I got a lemon mad.gif I hooked it up to my external interface and had line outs from the sub going to my mains. The sub was barely noticeable at all but it did take out the low end frequencies on my studio monitors...with a little distortion and reduction in volume as well. Talked to Ed from SVS on the phone and he told me to get a 3.5 jack to RCA L/R and hook up my phone directly to the sub and see if it's the sub or my interface. After a trip to Radio Shack I found that at max volume on my phone, max volume on the sub, messing with the crossover, and several songs later, found out it was the sub. It sounded like my neighbor had the sub in his place, not in mine.
One other problem I noticed is when I tried to Y-split the signal from my external interface and have one go to the sub and the other go to my speakers, my speakers got super distorted with obvious cracking. This too was a problem from the sub. After detaching the sub from the Y-splitter, my studio monitors are back to normal and sounding great.
On a positive note, my experience with SVS support has been the best out of any company I've ever worked with. They really helped me identify the problems I was having and also said they'll send me a new sub first thing Monday, shipping included.
My question now is do I stay with SVS and get another - I really love their customer service and warranty - or do I spend an extra $100 and get the HSU VTF-2 MK4?

Stay with SVS. They will stand behind you 100%.
post #124 of 1194
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Originally Posted by Trace79 View Post

On a positive note, my experience with SVS support has been the best out of any company I've ever worked with. They really helped me identify the problems I was having and also said they'll send me a new sub first thing Monday, shipping included.
My question now is do I stay with SVS and get another - I really love their customer service and warranty - or do I spend an extra $100 and get the HSU VTF-2 MK4?

while it's disappointing to get a lemon, it happens to the best of them....I've encountered defects with many goods, even very high end or premium luxury brands. The test of how they handle it after my purchase is my test on whether I should stay with them for future purchases, and it sounds like SVS came through with flying colors. The responsiveness of SVS/Ed and their ability to set things right above and beyond will keep me coming back
post #125 of 1194
Yeah, I realize that this can happen no matter what brand you buy and SVS has been amazing in their help and support so I'm staying with them. I should have a new one by Wednesday or Thursday. Time will tell if the new SB1000 and PB1000 are built with quality parts. Another reason I'm staying with SVS is their step-up program. If I'm not happy with the PB1000 There's always the SB12-NSD or the PB12-NSD for a little more cash.
post #126 of 1194
Sorry to hear you got a dud but to echo what's already been said they are taking care of you. I'd love to get HSU to compare but it's cost prohibitive up here - with no Canadian supplier you add about $300 to the price (or more) for shipping / duties etc. SVS has a distributor in Canada so it makes the decision a lot easier lol. Only issue I have is trying to get another sub in the house - my wife already thinks I'm crazy...... redface.gif
post #127 of 1194
Currently have 3 M&K V-76 12" Sealed Subs @ 75W Each ......2 in the Front and 1 in the Back......Looking at Replacing the 2 I have upfront with 2 PB-1000's ( they are both near identical in Dimensions ) Atleast with all the reading Ive been doing seems like this would be a Huge Upgrade.....Right?? LOL... Thanx for any responses
post #128 of 1194
I put the brakes on the PB1000 today. After reading through the forums I was questioning if it would deliver the output and punch that I want to hear. Plus I just didn't like that I got a broken one which has some psychological factor attributed of course. I also have been reading about the PB12-NSD and don't have any doubt that one will give my 2200 cubic feet everything I need and more. Even with the step-up program SVS offers I would still have to pay for shipping if I wanted to upgrade later on so that would be like a $400 difference. Might as well pull the trigger now and get the PB12-NSD I thought. Better to have too much than too little. So I called SVS and Doug picked up. When I told him I wanted the PB12 instead he made sure I knew what I was getting and even said the PB1000 will probably be enough, instead of jumping on the up-sell right away...very commendable. I made my decision before I called though. He suggested the cylinder PC12-NSD - being practically the exact same as the PB12 - because of the smaller footprint, and it's $20 cheaper. He even told me about military discount once he found out I was in the service saving me money. So all in all, I ended up spending $711 for the PC12-NSD and getting a full refund for the PB1000 with free shipping all around.

There may be slightly better subs out there in the $500 and $750 price range but I figure I'm also paying for the customer service and warranty that SVS offers...something that goes a really long way. If this product is as good as everyone has reviewed it - and I don't have any doubt - I will most likely be a SVS customer for life based on their support.
post #129 of 1194
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Originally Posted by 50Kuro80 View Post

Currently have 3 M&K V-76 12" Sealed Subs @ 75W Each ......2 in the Front and 1 in the Back......Looking at Replacing the 2 I have upfront with 2 PB-1000's ( they are both near identical in Dimensions ) Atleast with all the reading Ive been doing seems like this would be a Huge Upgrade.....Right?? LOL... Thanx for any responses

I'm curious what dual PB1000's will produce as well...specifically compared to a PB12-NSD or a PC12-NSD.
post #130 of 1194
Im a Firm believer in dual subs....I looked at the PB12-Nsd as well but its also $270 more, Times 2 thats $540 More than the 2 PB-1000's

Which ever Im looking to get its 2, but the biggest Problem right now is that there arent enough reviews on the PB-1000......I Firmly believe that 2 PB12-NSD will Destroy my 2 M&K V76 subs, Without Question

But will 2 PB-1000 Destroy as well or will they just sound Marginally better??
post #131 of 1194
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Originally Posted by 50Kuro80 View Post

Im a Firm believer in dual subs....I looked at the PB12-Nsd as well but its also $270 more, Times 2 thats $540 More than the 2 PB-1000's
Which ever Im looking to get its 2, but the biggest Problem right now is that there arent enough reviews on the PB-1000......I Firmly believe that 2 PB12-NSD will Destroy my 2 M&K V76 subs, Without Question
But will 2 PB-1000 Destroy as well or will they just sound Marginally better??

Your M&K's are sealed and only 75W each. I know I'm new but from everything I've been reading and learning the last few weeks, dual PB1000's should "destroy" those M&K's. Ported and 300W RMS up to 720W peak, plus 19Hz with reasonable output levels.

You could get dual PB1000 for $1000 or dual PC12-NSD for $1500...question is how much more bang does that extra $500 get you?
post #132 of 1194
Why not look at the dual SB12 NSD's at $1149.00? not as powerful as the PB series but still for only 150 bucks more than
dual PB 1000's your getting a better overall sub's. I plan on getting them when i save up the coin.

Athanasios
post #133 of 1194
I agree, Dual PB-1000's should Destroy...Just wish there were more Real World Reviews on them....
post #134 of 1194
I did talk with Ed and Doug and they both Recommend Ported for Home theater.......Not to say the SB-12 wouldnt sound great though.....
Edited by 50Kuro80 - 12/16/12 at 8:29pm
post #135 of 1194
Hey guys newb here. i just picked up a pb1000 on friday from sonic boom audio (Canadian distributer) and this thing is awesome! I'm waiting on a longer cable to do the sub crawl but ran the EQ and this thing is loud, rattles the whole house (smaller bungalow) and the wife to be said she could hear from the driveway! She wasn't impressed on how big it is though, it can't fit under her table like the old 8" because it bigger than the table, so sad:rolleyes:

Like I said though I'm new to this kind of performance. I'm upgrading my system since my Onkyo HTIB reciever crapped out on me. Bought a Denon AVR 1913 and this sub thanks to everyones feedback on here about SVS great performance and customer service. I have been playing around with it for a bit and have ran the EQ and set it up at 120Hz, Phase set to 0 and a single RCA in (was told from SVS Ying it in would make it louder:eek:) speakers set to small and 80Hz. Any tips would be appreciated but I have been trying to read everything I can find. Can't wait to upgrade the speakers next!


FYI to all Canadians the guys at sonic boom told me starting in the new yer shipping will be free so thats good news for anyone thinking of ordering one.
post #136 of 1194
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Originally Posted by Rob1987 View Post

Hey guys newb here. i just picked up a pb1000 on friday from sonic boom audio (Canadian distributer) and this thing is awesome! I'm waiting on a longer cable to do the sub crawl but ran the EQ and this thing is loud, rattles the whole house (smaller bungalow) and the wife to be said she could hear from the driveway! She wasn't impressed on how big it is though, it can't fit under her table like the old 8" because it bigger than the table, so sad:rolleyes:
Like I said though I'm new to this kind of performance. I'm upgrading my system since my Onkyo HTIB reciever crapped out on me. Bought a Denon AVR 1913 and this sub thanks to everyones feedback on here about SVS great performance and customer service. I have been playing around with it for a bit and have ran the EQ and set it up at 120Hz, Phase set to 0 and a single RCA in (was told from SVS Ying it in would make it louder:eek:) speakers set to small and 80Hz. Any tips would be appreciated but I have been trying to read everything I can find. Can't wait to upgrade the speakers next!
FYI to all Canadians the guys at sonic boom told me starting in the new yer shipping will be free so thats good news for anyone thinking of ordering one.

Glad you are happy with it smile.gif . What size room is it in?
post #137 of 1194
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Originally Posted by Rob1987 View Post

Hey guys newb here. i just picked up a pb1000 on friday from sonic boom audio (Canadian distributer) and this thing is awesome! I'm waiting on a longer cable to do the sub crawl but ran the EQ and this thing is loud, rattles the whole house (smaller bungalow) and the wife to be said she could hear from the driveway! She wasn't impressed on how big it is though, it can't fit under her table like the old 8" because it bigger than the table, so sad:rolleyes:
Like I said though I'm new to this kind of performance. I'm upgrading my system since my Onkyo HTIB reciever crapped out on me. Bought a Denon AVR 1913 and this sub thanks to everyones feedback on here about SVS great performance and customer service. I have been playing around with it for a bit and have ran the EQ and set it up at 120Hz, Phase set to 0 and a single RCA in (was told from SVS Ying it in would make it louder:eek:) speakers set to small and 80Hz. Any tips would be appreciated but I have been trying to read everything I can find. Can't wait to upgrade the speakers next!
FYI to all Canadians the guys at sonic boom told me starting in the new yer shipping will be free so thats good news for anyone thinking of ordering one.

Awesome News Rob - thanks so much for passing that tidbit on!!!!!!! I am looking at getting the SB1000 for my two channel setup (that i never seem to get a chance to listen too anymore - I have a Macintosh Universal DVD player with a Tube amp - I use the sub out on the player to my cheap Yamaha servo yST100 subwoofer and Totem Hawk mains - I need a good sub to replace that Yammy that isn't too big (bedroom system).

That free shipping - now I'll wait till the new year.

BTW - I have a PB 13 Ultra and and PB12 - NSD already -both awesome subwoofers. SVS makes great subs - ruler flat FR and priced very very competitively in our market (Canadian). Now with free shipping I"m sure that will keep Mason et al very busy in the new year.
post #138 of 1194
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Please do, I'm sure others will benefit from your insight. Make sure it's fully broken in and calibrated before you do too much critical listening though.

Well by let you know what I think, I didn't mean give a full audiophile quality review. Haha.
So maybe I'm wasting my breath by saying anything...but...

I haven't had time to break it in sufficiently or calibrate my setup since I just moved to a new place and have to experiment with the dynamics of the room and placement....

With only minor adjustments (just for fun) I lined the SB1000 up with a line of subs I had around.
(and yes I expected it to sound better than these, and yes I'm a collector of barely mediocre subs haha)
M-Audio Sbx10, an old Samsung HTIB sub of some sort, and an Energy ESW-M8 which is not mine.
I might not be a an audiophile but I have had past experience with with plenty of better subs than I currently own.. spent some time with a friends adams sub-12 and a few others.

Played a few subby clips from movies and some electronic music / rock. Anyway My initial impression is favorable. It's not breaking any laws of physics but for being a small sub it fills my room (Maybe 15 x 25 or 30? wonky rectangle... Not huge, sitting position is across from it short ways)better than I would have thought for the size (but nothing crazy), and the bass sounds far cleaner and pleasing than any sub I've been able to afford or the subs I switched between which is obvious because even though I've spent time with better subs I've only been able to afford lower priced subs.

For being only a little higher than entry level pricing, and the awesome compact size I think I'll be quite happy with it.
I was considering going with the SB12NSD and judging from my initial impression I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the SB1000. Plus I can now build a sort of flexy rack idea I had over it I wouldn't have been able to swing with the extra inch on the SB12nsd in that space.

Anyway perhaps in a few weeks when I've broken it in more and calibrated the speakers, maybe I'll take some readings if I have time (I'm still unpacking from my move I mentioned) and give it a more useful review, though I suspect someone else will have by then.

I just wanted to convey that out of the box and turned on, so far I'm giving it a solid alright, pretty cool man, pretty cool type nod....with maybe a little eye squinting and a raised eyebrow.
I do wish I could hear it next to an SB12NSD just for kicks though.

I don't mean to waste anyone's time with my post but you know... sometimes an I like it or don't like it is better than nothing.

:-)
post #139 of 1194
Trace- the room is 2100 cubic feet and the HT is set up in one half of it.

Krunch- mason actually offered me free shipping last weds but I want it for the weekend so I went over myself. Not sure when there going to start offering it so I would just about it when your looking to buy.
post #140 of 1194
Hi guys -

Thanks for the great feedback on the 1000-series! I've seen a few comments about max output of the 1000-series. Relative to their NSD counterparts, the 1000-series has similar mid/upper bass max output - the 1000 drivers are light mass and high sensitivity and really rip nicely with 300 watts from the new Sledge STA-300D platform. In the deep bass regions the NSDs do have about 40-50% more max output on average. So yes - a pair of PB-1000s will outgun a single PB12-NSD, and a pair of SB-1000s will outgun a single SB12-NSD - and they should of course, considering the price for a pair.
post #141 of 1194
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Originally Posted by Grenade01 View Post

Well by let you know what I think, I didn't mean give a full audiophile quality review. Haha. So maybe I'm wasting my breath by saying anything...but...

Not a waste of breath. I appreciate you posting your initial thoughts. When you've had the opportunity to break it in be sure to come back and update your post.
post #142 of 1194
Too many choices, and lots of great reviews. I have a 13 wide x 8 high x 27 long room with seating at 16' for a 120" projected screen (advice on seating distance?). With this space should i definitely be considering two subs, or one good one? My usage will be 50/50 gaming and movies, a little sports (hockey), and no music. Haven't purchased my receiver or speakers yet, leaning on Onkyo 818 ($680) with no clue on speakers (bipolar? leaning on 5.2). $3K budget.

Which of the following should I get?

Outlaw LFM-1 EX for $649 + $90 for delivery = $739
Outlaw LFM-1 Plus for $499 + $90 del.= $589
PB-1000 or SB-1000 $499, free delivery
SB12-NSD $649, free delivery
HSU VTF-2 MK4 $549 + $99 delivered = $648
HSU VTF-3 Mk 4 $649 (holiday sale) + del = $748
Others?

Your advice is priceless and appreciated, thank you.
post #143 of 1194
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Originally Posted by todecoulter View Post

Which of the following should I get?
Outlaw LFM-1 EX for $649 + $90 for delivery = $739
Outlaw LFM-1 Plus for $499 + $90 del.= $589
PB-1000 or SB-1000 $499, free delivery
SB12-NSD $649, free delivery
HSU VTF-2 MK4 $549 + $99 delivered = $648
HSU VTF-3 Mk 4 $649 (holiday sale) + del = $748
Others?
Your advice is priceless and appreciated, thank you.

This thread was created for the new SVS subwoofers, so the posts should really be geared strictly to those. Since you're looking for general advice it's probably better to start a new thread dedicated just to your situation. That way all the answers will be specifically addressing your needs.
post #144 of 1194
Just sold my SVS PB12 NSD today. Making changes to my room and it was just too big for my plans, loved it in everyway. My only choice would be the new SB1000 since it is the only sub in the SVS line that will fit into my system.

I am guessing the SB1000 will still ad some punch to my new Paradigm Signature 2's?
post #145 of 1194
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

I am guessing the SB1000 will still ad some punch to my new Paradigm Signature 2's?

I would think so. You might want to consider the SB12-NSD instead though. Those are some pretty nice speakers, they deserve an equivalent sub. The SB1000 is probably solid, but the SB12 would more then likely complete the S2's better.
post #146 of 1194
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

I would think so. You might want to consider the SB12-NSD instead though. Those are some pretty nice speakers, they deserve an equivalent sub. The SB1000 is probably solid, but the SB12 would more then likely complete the S2's better.

I will check it out. As long as it is about the same size.
post #147 of 1194
It's a 14 inch cube
post #148 of 1194
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

It's a 14 inch cube

Heck i could do twins at that size.
post #149 of 1194
Here is a stupid question. I used to have a DIY subwoofer in my car and that has been the best bass I had:.

Sub:
Cadence TXW12-4S 4 ohms sub (http://www.elektronik.gr/eshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7985&zenid=a55147f734d4cfa3d533989dd706d28b)

Amp:
TXA 300.2 amp.

Enclosure - hand made by a forum member:
- 14"H x 20"W x 12"D, 1.405^3ft gross vol. After all displacement, 1.155^3ft net
- built from 3/4"UL-MDF seams matched and double sealed
- dado cut end caps
- seams fastened with tite bond glue and counter sunk drywall screws
- walls fully braced and tied in with hardwood bracing for zero wall flex
- 45 degree boards in the corners to kill standing sound waves.

So... I am about to purchase my first HT sub and I am wondering if the PB-1000 would sound as good/better than my car sub. What worries me that the PB-1000 is a 10" sub.
post #150 of 1194
Trying out some music today with the PB-1000. Good for finding all the loosely attached things throughout the front of the house. May need to consider taping certain things down.
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