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post #31 of 1188
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

I certainly do appreciate the vote of confidence, but I very seriously doubt anyone can really do more then infer simply by looking.
The XTZ has tuning options that neither of the SVS subs have, which could prove beneficial. Want to choose between acoustic suspension or bass reflex? Rather have extension over output? Want to boost either the 25Hz or 50Hz range? The answer to all of those questions is 'yes' with the XTZ.
The SB1000 is tiny and inexpensive (relatively speaking). If it's anything like the other subs SVS sells it's probably quite nice. The numbers they quote certainly look solid, especially for what you're paying.
The SB12 is a proven winner, with a history of over-achieving. I'm not sure I've ever seen a negative post about that sub, which is extremely rare. That, alone, is a compelling argument.
It all boils down to what an individual is looking for I suppose. Want a "junior" SB12? The SB1000 seems like the ticket. Want something you can configure however you'd like? The XTZ would be the way to go. Want something deemed one of the best small subs being made? The SB12 is the best choice then.
I have a PB1000 on the way to me for review. It was supposed to be delivered today, but I guess FedEx decided I didn't really need it after all. I'll be doing a review on that one, which will be in the beginning of next year. I don't have an SB1000 scheduled though.

Hi Jim!

Awesome of you matey! As you know, I have two RELQ200E's which I will now be selling but really wanted the same sort of small form factor which is why the SB1000/SB12-NSD appeals! There is an XTZ 99W10.16 that I might be able to pick up at a reasonable price so am considering it even though it is bigger in height. If it helps, I have sold most of my Orbs & will be going down the Cambridge Audio Minx route (Min20's as Surrounds & Min21's for L/C/R) . 70% Movies/30% Music split & room size is 4m wide x 3.6m deep & 2.4m high - which one do you think will match the Min's best?

Really look forward to reading your review of the SB1000!

Bazzy!
post #32 of 1188
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Awesome of you matey! As you know, I have two RELQ200E's which I will now be selling but really wanted the same sort of small form factor which is why the SB1000/SB12-NSD appeals! There is an XTZ 99W10.16 that I might be able to pick up at a reasonable price so am considering it even though it is bigger in height. If it helps, I have sold most of my Orbs & will be going down the Cambridge Audio Minx route (Min20's as Surrounds & Min21's for L/C/R) . 70% Movies/30% Music split & room size is 4m wide x 3.6m deep & 2.4m high - which one do you think will match the Min's best?

I think either the 99W10.16 or SB12 would work with the CA speakers just fine, since both subwoofers have an upper 3dB range around 250Hz. However, the SB12 can probably play a little deeper, which is something that's important to me so I'd probably choose that one (unless the XTZ was very inexpensive).

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Really look forward to reading your review of the SB1000!

You may find yourself waiting for quite some time, because the review unit I'm getting is the PB1000 instead... tongue.gif
post #33 of 1188
I can't wait for PB1000 reviews.
post #34 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Ruben Z View Post

I can't wait for PB1000 reviews.

Looks like FedEx is working overtime - my PB1000 review unit was delivered at 6:50PM, so it's sitting here right now. It was heavier then I anticipated a budget-oriented sub with a single 10" driver would be.
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Looks like FedEx is working overtime - my PB1000 review unit was delivered at 6:50PM, so it's sitting here right now. It was heavier then I anticipated a budget-oriented sub with a single 10" driver would be.
Jim, what size room will you be trying it out in? My TV room is close to 2400cf but as I have a newborn and daughter who sleep light I won't be looking for loudness but more deeper notes that I feel and hear. I currently have a crappy onkyo HTIB sub.
post #36 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Ruben Z View Post

Jim, what size room will you be trying it out in? My TV room is close to 2400cf but as I have a newborn and daughter who sleep light I won't be looking for loudness but more deeper notes that I feel and hear. I currently have a crappy onkyo HTIB sub.

My room is 13x17x8, so less then 1800 cubic feet. Your room is about 1/3rd larger.
post #37 of 1188
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My room is 13x17x8, so less then 1800 cubic feet. Your room is about 1/3rd larger.
That's actually close enough. My room is close except I have 10ft ceilings. I look forward to your review
post #38 of 1188
Is this a sale price or regular price? I might get 2 of them for that price and free shipping..
post #39 of 1188
That appears to be the regular price. Whether it's only for an introductory time, I guess only SVS knows for certain. You just missed a sale (ended Nov. 30) which offered free return shipping - perfect for risk-free demo-ing.
post #40 of 1188
I just noticed that SonicBoomAudio.com has the PB-1000 and SB-1000 listed on their site...for $499/ea.! biggrin.gif

It's great that these SVS subs are now available in Canada, and it's great that they're available for the same price as in the U.S.

Nicely done, SVS and SBA! cool.gif
post #41 of 1188
The PB1000 looks pretty good in person. The finish is a deep black color, darker then most. It sounds pretty good too...

I have a few other subs to review before I can get to this one, but I wanted to hook it up for a little while to get an idea of what to expect. There's only about 3 hours on it thus far -- a little music and Monday Night football for the most part -- so it's tough to formulate much of an opinion, but from what I've heard up to this point I'd say SVS has done a fine job. One things for sure; I doubt too many people would walk into my house now and think I was using a sub with only a 10" driver.
post #42 of 1188
Thanks for posting your initial impressions on the PB-1000. smile.gif
post #43 of 1188
Hey guys. Just received my PB1000 last night and set it up as best I can for now. Unfortunately my thoughts on it won't be much of a review as I have very little experience with good subs and how to accurately portray their capabilities. I'll answer any questions to the best of my ability.

Receiver: Yamaha RXV-1800
Infinity Beta 40, C360, and ES250 surrounds
Previous sub: JBL 125a HTIB (aka crap)
Room size: 18x20 - 8' ceilings
Crossover set to 80hz
I ran through the receivers YPAO calibration once I hooked up the sub and adjust speaker levels with an SPL meter

Only thing I was really able to try was Tron Legacy on Blu-Ray. Wasn't able to finish the film yet, but the bass from the flying machines sounded great. Not "boomy" like my previous sub that was very bad about that. One thing I really liked was before I adjusted the sub level correctly I wasn't sure it was working right, and had left the room to startup the movie disc. The fireworks at the beginning of the disc were extremely loud, but sounded great. I actually heard it very well in the next room. I also felt the vibrations during the movie, where I never had before.
post #44 of 1188
Congrats on the new sub! And good initial comments, BTW: Lack of boominess is always a good sign with a sub. Looking forward to more thoughts/comments on the PB-1000. smile.gif
post #45 of 1188
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Room size: 18x20 - 8' ceilings

You have just one PB1000 in a room that's almost 2900 cubic feet? I'm impressed - that's a lot of space for a single 10" driver. What do you have the gain on the sub set for? Are you running it "hot" (over 0db) from the AVR?

BTW, for those that don't know... SVS included a feature that I wish every sub manufacturer would; a gain knob with detents! This should be done on every sub, not the rare one. to SVS for that.
post #46 of 1188
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

You have just one PB1000 in a room that's almost 2900 cubic feet? I'm impressed - that's a lot of space for a single 10" driver. What do you have the gain on the sub set for? Are you running it "hot" (over 0db) from the AVR?
BTW, for those that don't know... SVS included a feature that I wish every sub manufacturer would; a gain knob with detents! This should be done on every sub, not the rare one. to SVS for that.

Sub gain is set to roughly 65% IIRC. Phase is 0. It's set to 2.0 on the receiver. I can turn it up quite a bit more, but I don't know if it will sound as good at that level.

If you think that a lot of space for this sub imagine my old 8" 75w down firing HTIB sub in the same space. lmao
post #47 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Ub3r-L33ch View Post

Sub gain is set to roughly 65% IIRC. Phase is 0. It's set to 2.0 on the receiver. I can turn it up quite a bit more, but I don't know if it will sound as good at that level.

No issues there - that's almost identical to how I have mine set.
post #48 of 1188
just ordered a pb-1000 to replace my crappy old TSC 10" sub. my buddy also just got a epik legend from their holiday sale, so we'll be doing some comparisons of the two.
post #49 of 1188
I ordered an SB1000 last night for my bedroom 2.1 setup, I had been looking at a HSU since I already have one of their subs in my home theater and love it but I decided to try something different. Thanks to the 45 day money back offer, I'll be trying out my first SVS sub and it will also be my first sealed subwoofer so I'll be sure to post a review since I'm sure a lot of people are curious about these new subs.
post #50 of 1188
Am looking at the SB 12 NSD ( actually 2 of them). Also checking Emotiva SB. Not really interested in an 80-100 pound beast sittting in the room. Any comments re these two?
post #51 of 1188
The X-Ref 12 has good output and is reputed to be very good for music, but IIRC it rolls off sharply below 30Hz and above 80Hz. The SB12-NSD may not play as loud, but it should be comparably "musical", and because it will dig deeper than the X-Ref, it will be more useful for movies.

Although it's currently $50 more - rather than $50 less - than the X-Ref 12, I'd get the SB12-NSD.
post #52 of 1188
Mahalo

Thats kind of what I picked up from the reviews. SVS for two at 1150 is not a bad price
post #53 of 1188
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SVS for two at 1150 is not a bad price
No, it's not bad at all! smile.gif
post #54 of 1188
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Mahalo
Thats kind of what I picked up from the reviews. SVS for two at 1150 is not a bad price

Hi,

Damn, it costs pretty much that just for ONE SB-12NSD in my country (UK) - well pissed off.

Bazzy!
post #55 of 1188
I have to unhook the PB1000 now so I can review some of the other subs that I received before it, but I can say this much; SVS must have hidden a larger driver in this cabinet someplace, because a 10" subwoofer should not be able to do what this one can. Thus far what I'm hearing is pretty impressive for 500 dollars, that's for sure.
post #56 of 1188
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... SVS must have hidden a larger driver in this cabinet someplace, because a 10" subwoofer should not be able to do what this one can.
Cool... cool.gif
post #57 of 1188
I know it's a bit early to ask this question but would 2x PB-1000, one placed behind about 5-6' behind the couch and one on the front wall in the corner be better than 2x LFM-1 Plus 5-6' behind the couch and one next to the couch?

My problem is space for the second subwoofer, I currently have a LFM-1 Plus and was looking to add another until this SVS came along. The smaller cabinet size would be nice and would allow for more placement options; room is around 3600 cu. ft.
post #58 of 1188
Not so sure I'd consider your placement ideal, but I'd probably opt for another Plus in your case. You already have the one, and it's often easier to integrate like-for-like then two different makes and models.
post #59 of 1188
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Not so sure I'd consider your placement ideal, but I'd probably opt for another Plus in your case. You already have the one, and it's often easier to integrate like-for-like then two different makes and models.

Appreciate the response

Placement has always been a bit of a problem here, room is a bit oddly shaped and the only available options are back of the room, side of the couch and maybe the front wall if I shift stuff around for the Outlaw.

I'm just hoping a 2nd sub will fix a lot of the room problems because right now I'm not 100% happy with the one subwoofer.
post #60 of 1188
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Hi Jim,

Any chance you will also be getting an SB1000 to test soon? It would be cool if you could test it at the same time as the PB1000 & read about how the two perform against each other!

Bazzy!
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