New SVS SB1000 & PB1000 Subwoofers!! - Page 17

No, its euros so about 1.34 times that. 600+

Athanasios

thanks guys (i have SOOO many movies to try with this sub, i hope it doesn't let me down, and that it will be ok for my space). by the way i said less than 450 not 450

the stupid thing is that i have a guy teasing me! he is selling a pair of silver B&W LM1 almost brand new, never played. it was used as a display. they are very rare to find, and nice looking - good speakers. i already own a pair of them as my surround rear speakers, unfortunately i can't use this new pair as my surround back, because i don't have the space!!! (damn it). but i am still considering to buy them, because i know i will use them somehow... (forgot to mention the price... he is selling them for 130 euros, which i believe is not bad...)

Well,
i joined the SVS PB 1000 Bandwagon last Sunday evening. I had a personal Meeting with one of three german Retailers which lives in my vicinity.
Actually he is sold out on the PB 1000 - but he is waiting for another ten of them to come during this week. With a little luck i should have mine this friday :-)
And btw. i paid less than 450 Euros cos of some special discoutnt granted for paying in advance and picking the sub up by myself .

no, in europe the sub is paid in euro, so still more expensive than in us..got mine for 450 euro includig shipping, though

oh, sorry i missed the last page of this thread

450 including shipping? ok.... maybe you should share your information....

i paid 484 with shipping

If you are in for a friendly, experienced and reliable Retailer of SVS Subs in Germany i can handsdown recommend : klangimlot.com. Ask for Alberto. He`s the man with the plan ;-)

"Dear customer,

We would like to informe you that your order has now been shipped. "


(informe) - Anyway... it is coming! 1 week from now

Better late than never right :-D savor the wait!

I've really enjoyed the pb1000, it is my first "real" sub. I've found out with my Denon 1713 and multeqxt that I have to turn the knob gain on the sub to about 2 o'clock. Audyssey then sets it internally to 0dB.

It really shines in 4000+ cubic feet and I'm amazed

it will be my first real sub too. my avr has only 2EQ, so.....

any how, i hope it will fill my room nicely.

So, can you guess which is the PB1000 and which is the SB1000?









The SB1000 is tiny! I never realized just how small this thing is until I unboxed it.

The PB1000 seems pretty compact too

The width is fine, and the height isn't too bad either, but it's pretty deep for something with a 10" driver.

4th shot really shows the difference...the SB looks like all speaker!

Wow, that thing does look small but I am looking forward to your review Jim.

Actually the cube sort of looks like a 10 inch sub box I long ago had behind the seat of a '66 396ci Chevelle SS 2dr. Then everything was "stereo" but people listened more to how good your pipes sounded. Things have changed.

I like that all speaker look. I wonder what it would sound like in my car? LOL

For people for which WAF and sub size is a huge problem, two of those in a room sure would be nice

Nice-looking subs! The SB-1000 is a sweet little box (don't go there ) - I imagine that a couple of them in a medium-sized room would probably sound really good.

I do too it's much sexier imo. I ended up with the pb for room size, waf, and budget. My waf wouldn't care that it's smaller (oops!lol) but certainly doesn't want to see 2 black boxes.... (oops again....)

I had no idea this was rated forum.

Once you put the sub in the room, the native FR of the sub might be largely irrelevant since the room interactions take over and it could be a real roller coaster.

Secondly, in the case of many people who have room correction (e.g. Audyssey), this would help to reduce the variance in the FR.

I suspect in your case you just had the old sub way louder than the SVS.

Second explanation could be that the current location of the SVS is not optimal and there may be nulls or dips which is robbing the performance.

This simply just meant that you had your old sub's volume knob very high (perhaps too high). Remember, the higher the volume knob on your sub, the lower the trim set by Audyssey.

Following on from what I wrote above, this is simply because the volume knob on the SVS wasn't turned up as high. If you crank up the volume knob, Audyssey could set the trim at -12dB for the SVS (like with your old sub).

This means that the SVS was designed to reproduce the bass frequencies (within its range) at an even level, e.g. it would play 25Hz or 30Hz or 40Hz or 50Hz all at the same level. If you looked at the graph it would look pretty flat, as shown below:

jchong- Thanks for the graph, that definitely helps!

When I was comparing the performance of the mirage and SVS, I followed the way Audyessy instructs how to set it up, but I did tweak a little-

Audyssey stated (with volume at Noon, and hz at full)

mirage ps-8: -12db ( I adjusted to -8db and volume at 1:30)

svs: -6db (in which after the feedback from this forum, I have adjusted to 0db with volume at Noon to let it "loosen up")

Ok, another question out to all-

Do you have the power set to AUTO or Always ON? I ask, because I have it set to Auto, but it wont turn on until the volume on my receiver is louder than -40db.

Thank you all again for your feedback!

Jim can you do me a favor and measure the PB-1000 from that carpet to the very top. My wife spotted an all black plate plate glass table she thought would fit over the sub. It's a 1 piece wrap of glass and with no back and I am wondering if that's really a good idea around the sub. She has come along way on this stuff so I am trying to balance it out for her.

Did you do this adjustment manually yourself after running Audyssey?


Using Auto the sub will try to detect the signal before turning on. Perhaps at under -40dB volume (on the receiver) the signal is not strong enough for the sub to detect.

I know you asked Jim, but if I could offer up a measurement (my carpet looks similar and I just did this recently in my space) 18 5/8"

I'm getting within an 1/8" of your measurement, 18 1/2", so pretty much the same thing. Then there's the 1/2" rubber feet, but they pretty much sink completely into the carpet.

Sounds about right..... Depends on how hard you push the tape measure down into the carpet+padding

Thanks Jim.

Do you see any problem having 1/4" plate glass around the PB-100? The inside measurement of this unique one piece table is 23"W X 19 1/2" X 20" D. It can easily be lifted higher by 3/4" base pads. It very much fits in with the piano black accents on the Sinclair speakers. Great speakers by the way. They are impressive for the price.

I am still looking forward to your SW-1000 review though and impressions against the SB12-NSD . I showed them to my friend here last night on-line and he is very interested.

I do envision a potential issue, but you probably won't know the extent of it unless you try putting a sub inside the table; resonance. I'm having a hard time seeing how the table won't be vibrating and creating an unpleasant sound. It would have to be really sturdy for it not to produce sympathetic vibrations.


My review will be focusing strictly on the PB1000 and SB1000, but not the SB12. I've never had the opportunity to actually hear that one myself, so unfortunately I can't do much more then comment about what others have said.

jchong-

Yes, after running audyssey on the mirage, I wasn't feeling/hearing much bass, so I increased the level. Same with the svs, I ran audyssey and then increased the level to 0db, as I read others with this sub have done as well.
I am in the process of letting it 'break in' and will critique it a little more after that. I do want to like this sub, trust me I do! I am just wondering if maybe I got a (dare I say it) defective sub? My thought with that though is that I have not read anything about quality issues with these, I have just read outstanding reviews.

Again, thanks for all the input!