AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Audio theory, Setup and Chat › any suggestions for cables?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

any suggestions for cables? - Page 5

post #121 of 873
12/13/12 at 5:47pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

I know my audio quest vodka HDMI cable simply blew every HDMI cable I ever tryed right out ta the wata!
It musta upgraded somadose zeros inta ones!

Craig
Reply
Reply

AVS Top Picks

post #122 of 873
12/13/12 at 7:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by craig john View Post

It musta upgraded somadose zeros inta ones!
Craig

Just better ones and zeroes. A refreshingly piquant slighty fruity taste withhints of almonds and a slightly obtuse tannic aftertaste. I give it a 92
Reply
Reply
post #123 of 873
12/13/12 at 8:07pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

None. Did I say that?  I can’t see where I did. Fact remains that putting great speakers in an untreated room is likely to make them sound like like crap.  OTOH, a properly treated room will make a good set of speakers sound as good as they can sound, and likely better than a better set of speakers in an echoey, reverberant, untreated room with modal issues and so on. I'm not going to argue this with you so if you disagree, I'd just let it go.
Hmmm. What I quoted from you said that "good" speakers will sound great with proper room treatment. Now you are saying that "great" speakers sound like crap in untreated room. They are two different things. A good speaker at best will sound well, good smile.gif. A room can deter from it, but it won't elevate it to greatness or we wouldn't have great speakers. As for great speakers sounding like crap in an untreated room, if they do, then they are not great speakers smile.gif. A room has its most influence below the transition frequency. If the sound you are hearing is crap, in a treated or untreated room, it means your speaker is not great. This is beside the point of if I asked what is a great speaker, likely there won't be a good answer for that either smile.gif.
Quote:
All rooms have modes. All rooms induce reflections. If you don't deal with that, then the sound is not going to be the best it can be, regardless of the equipment you use. 
Agreed that all rooms have modes. But there are powerful techniques for dealing with them that does not involve one ounce of fiberglass (see http://www.madronadigital.com/Library/BassOptimization.html). On reflections, they can be quite beneficial contrary to misconceptions assumed in forums. See this article for research on that: http://www.madronadigital.com/Library/RoomReflections.html.
Quote:
If you prefer to put a lot of expensive gear into an untreated room, that's your prerogative. Please feel free to believe anything you wish. Meantime, if you get the chance, check out any professional sound studio and if you find one that has no treatments, please post pictures and a link.
There is no one advocating "no treatment." I asked you to explain what you meant by "proper treatment." That question did not imply a position on my part.

To be abundantly clear, all rooms need to have enough absorption as to bring down the level of *late* reflections (echoey or reverbrant as you called them). We are in agreement on that. Where we might not agree is that this can be done through normal furnishing (read the start of the thread you were given for the science backing that). In dedicated rooms, acoustic treatment is necessary because the room would be too live otherwise. And there, if we have the space, we may also deploy low frequency products. We should not however shame people into turning every room into an anechoic chamber ignoring the effect of furnishings or confusing the use of absorption with application on early reflection.

As to following professionals, that is a mistake. They are using the room as a tool. Research shows that their hearing works different than you and I. It is a hard concept to swallow but that is what the research shows. Now if you still like to copy the pictures of those rooms despite countless listening tests otherwise, by all means do. But please don't say you are following the science. What you are following is the forum folklore created by companies selling fiberglass products....
Reply
Reply
post #124 of 873
12/13/12 at 10:01pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by amirm View Post

Hmmm. What I quoted from you said that "good" speakers will sound great with proper room treatment. Now you are saying that "great" speakers sound like crap in untreated room. They are two different things. A good speaker at best will sound well, good smile.gif. A room can deter from it, but it won't elevate it to greatness or we wouldn't have great speakers.
amirm, have you forgotten that he wrote:
Quote:
speakers that are just 'good' can sound great in a properly treated room.
Your dance move #4, "make things up as you go".
Quote:
Originally Posted by amirm View Post

As for great speakers sounding like crap in an untreated room, if they do, then they are not great speakers
Once again, your dance move #4, "make things up as you go".
Quote:
A room has its most influence below the transition frequency. If the sound you are hearing is crap, in a treated or untreated room, it means your speaker is not great. This is beside the point of if I asked what is a great speaker, likely there won't be a good answer for that either smile.gif.
Agreed that all rooms have modes.

...

There is no one advocating "no treatment." I asked you to explain what you meant by "proper treatment." That question did not imply a position on my part.
To be abundantly clear, all rooms need to have enough absorption as to bring down the level of *late* reflections (echoey or reverbrant as you called them). We are in agreement on that. Where we might not agree is that this can be done through normal furnishing (read the start of the thread you were given for the science backing that). In dedicated rooms, acoustic treatment is necessary because the room would be too live otherwise. And there, if we have the space, we may also deploy low frequency products. We should not however shame people into turning every room into an anechoic chamber ignoring the effect of furnishings or confusing the use of absorption with application on early reflection.
As to following professionals, that is a mistake. They are using the room as a tool. Research shows that their hearing works different than you and I. It is a hard concept to swallow but that is what the research shows. Now if you still like to copy the pictures of those rooms despite countless listening tests otherwise, by all means do. But please don't say you are following the science. What you are following is the forum folklore created by companies selling fiberglass products....
Everyone, amirm is back to his dancing again, deflect, redirect, complain, make things up as you go... 1, 2, 3, 4... rolleyes.gif

kbarnes701, this is why people are telling you what they are telling you about amirm. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1413173/does-sound-sounds-better-in-a-room-full-of-furniture-and-stuff-or-without/840#post_22275122
Edited by diomania - 12/13/12 at 10:11pm
Reply
Reply
post #125 of 873
12/14/12 at 3:43am
Quote:
Originally Posted by craig john View Post

It musta upgraded somadose zeros inta ones!

Craig

 

Yuh, Craig, uh uh, I agree wid your analysis derhe. De eleckrons in the, ERRRR, special cabble recognise dat the, errr, cabble cost 1000 dollars 'n dey rearrange demselbes t' gibe betteh sound. If the, uh, eleckrons realise dey are in a cheap cabble, dey become verhy stubborn 'n refuse t' flow. It's the, ERRRR, same digg if the, errr, cabble is not 'direckional' too - dey dgust refuse t' flow de 'wrong' way at all 'n you get no sound.

Reply
Reply
post #126 of 873
12/14/12 at 3:45am
Quote:
Originally Posted by amirm View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

None. Did I say that?  I can’t see where I did. Fact remains that putting great speakers in an untreated room is likely to make them sound like like crap.  OTOH, a properly treated room will make a good set of speakers sound as good as they can sound, and likely better than a better set of speakers in an echoey, reverberant, untreated room with modal issues and so on. I'm not going to argue this with you so if you disagree, I'd just let it go.
Hmmm. What I quoted from you said that "good" speakers will sound great with proper room treatment. Now you are saying that "great" speakers sound like crap in untreated room. They are two different things. A good speaker at best will sound well, good smile.gif. A room can deter from it, but it won't elevate it to greatness or we wouldn't have great speakers. As for great speakers sounding like crap in an untreated room, if they do, then they are not great speakers smile.gif. A room has its most influence below the transition frequency. If the sound you are hearing is crap, in a treated or untreated room, it means your speaker is not great. This is beside the point of if I asked what is a great speaker, likely there won't be a good answer for that either smile.gif.
Quote:
All rooms have modes. All rooms induce reflections. If you don't deal with that, then the sound is not going to be the best it can be, regardless of the equipment you use. 
Agreed that all rooms have modes. But there are powerful techniques for dealing with them that does not involve one ounce of fiberglass (see http://www.madronadigital.com/Library/BassOptimization.html). On reflections, they can be quite beneficial contrary to misconceptions assumed in forums. See this article for research on that: http://www.madronadigital.com/Library/RoomReflections.html.
Quote:
If you prefer to put a lot of expensive gear into an untreated room, that's your prerogative. Please feel free to believe anything you wish. Meantime, if you get the chance, check out any professional sound studio and if you find one that has no treatments, please post pictures and a link.
There is no one advocating "no treatment." I asked you to explain what you meant by "proper treatment." That question did not imply a position on my part.

To be abundantly clear, all rooms need to have enough absorption as to bring down the level of *late* reflections (echoey or reverbrant as you called them). We are in agreement on that. Where we might not agree is that this can be done through normal furnishing (read the start of the thread you were given for the science backing that). In dedicated rooms, acoustic treatment is necessary because the room would be too live otherwise. And there, if we have the space, we may also deploy low frequency products. We should not however shame people into turning every room into an anechoic chamber ignoring the effect of furnishings or confusing the use of absorption with application on early reflection.

As to following professionals, that is a mistake. They are using the room as a tool. Research shows that their hearing works different than you and I. It is a hard concept to swallow but that is what the research shows. Now if you still like to copy the pictures of those rooms despite countless listening tests otherwise, by all means do. But please don't say you are following the science. What you are following is the forum folklore created by companies selling fiberglass products....

 

Like I said, I'm not going to argue with you endlessly on this. I have checked out your other posts and life is too short. Please believe what you believe and have a great day.

Reply
Reply
post #127 of 873
12/14/12 at 3:57am
Quote:
Originally Posted by diomania View Post
Everyone, amirm is back to his dancing again, deflect, redirect, complain, make things up as you go... 1, 2, 3, 4... rolleyes.gif

kbarnes701, this is why people are telling you what they are telling you about amirm. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1413173/does-sound-sounds-better-in-a-room-full-of-furniture-and-stuff-or-without/840#post_22275122

 

Yes, thanks diomania. I followed that link posted earlier and, as you will see above, I have disengaged. I did tell amirm before that I wasn't going to get into an endless discussion with him but he mustn't have read that bit of my post. 

 

I had a look at his website too and it is very impressive. One of his featured rooms is this:

 

 

1000

 

It does look very nice. What it sounds like, I have no idea....

Reply
Reply
post #128 of 873
12/14/12 at 3:57am
Quote:
Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Rex View Post

Diomania, this is one of the only forums on the internet where it is allowed for someone like yourself to preach their anti cable beliefs full time 24/7 without getting banned. Never two sides to the story because the swarm will smother out the "other side" as was done earlier in this thread. Motives for this? I can think of plenty at least in your case.
A shill? I could say the same, maybe you are on the payroll for a company/ies that would benefit from you convincing enthusiasts that higher end cables do nothing. The result being the customer now spends their money elsewhere in their systems and not on cables. Or are you merely a "professional hater" of the successfull cable company owners/engineers? You are clearly a hater of successfull people in general, and people who have expensive systems. It must be difficult listening to your home-theater-in a-box every night, after looking at the nice systems here on AVS. Oh, I forgot...maybe not because you believe that all cables, amps, processors, and avrs sound the same anyway. Denial is a very powerful thing...whatever gets you by.
A shill I am not. An ethusiast with an open mind and NO CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS I AM.
Once again, thank you for posting that link. I am sure it's wallpapered on your walls of your bedroom as you always keep it handy. That thread is an example that there can only be one view point on this forum and there is no room for a second. There are plenty of threads out there that show there are two sides to the glass or plastic toslink debate...just not on this forum.
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?fcabl&1313377625&openfrom&1&4#1
Two thumbs up!...I know my audio quest vodka HDMI cable simply blew every HDMI cable I ever tryed right out ta the wata!

if you had a grasp of even the basic fundamentals of how tmds "works", you'd realize that it's not possible for a hdmi cable blow another one "right out ta the wata"...

unless one of them is not "working" at all...

fwiw... my system, while far from the most indulgent here at avs, is far from "inexpensive"...

carry on...
Reply
Reply
post #129 of 873
12/14/12 at 4:27am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Two thumbs up!...I know my audio quest vodka HDMI cable simply blew every HDMI cable I ever tryed right out ta the wata!

if you had a grasp of even the basic fundamentals of how tmds "works", you'd realize that it's not possible for a hdmi cable blow another one "right out ta the wata"...

unless one of them is not "working" at all...

fwiw... my system, while far from the most indulgent here at avs, is far from "inexpensive"...

carry on...

 

Good heavens. The cheapest price for the Audioquest Vodka cable on Amazon is $248.99 (2m length).  I tell you, Chris, if I had paid 250 bucks for a cable, I'd darn well want it to blow the others right out ta the wata too (to use a technical phrase). 

 

I think I have about 10 HDMI cables in my setup so that'd be close to $2,500 spent on cables alone. Hmmm... that's more than double the money I spent on treating my room!

 

The tragedy of the mistaken idea that a $250 HDMI cable will 'sound' better than a decent Monoprice cable (their equivalent is well under $10 for 24 AWG) is that the $2,500 could have been spent instead on something that actually does make a difference - eg treatments or better speakers or better sub(s).

 

I kinda feel sorry for the guys who are taken in by the snake oil merchants and the audiofools and the pseudo-scientists - they are being conned out of substantial amounts of money and getting precisely nothing in return for it.

Reply
Reply
post #130 of 873
12/14/12 at 4:31am
^^^

or a submersive hp... wink.gif

i only feel sorry for the ones who haven't stumbled across avs (or one of the few other sites that aren't faith based)... for those that have found avs, they have only themselves to blame...
Reply
Reply
post #131 of 873
12/14/12 at 5:12am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

or a submersive hp... wink.gif

 

 

Quite. And change!

 

Quote:
i only feel sorry for the ones who haven't stumbled across avs (or one of the few other sites that aren't faith based)... for those that have found avs, they have only themselves to blame...

 

That is true, but faith is a powerful thing (I am told it can move mountains, but have seen no independent corroboration). Once someone becomes a believer, it is very difficult to change their mind. No matter how much scientific evidence and proof you put before them, their faith generally prevails. Even the results of double blind tests won't convince them ("I know what I hear... the test is flawed.. all I need is my ears... there are audible differences that can't be measured" etc etc). They have only themselves to blame but I still feel sorry for them because they are spending hard-earned money where it can make no difference, when they could be spending the same money and getting a terrific difference/improvement. It is a pity that they miss out on genuine improvements to their SQ in favour of perceived improvements which we know and can prove are not real.

 

The sheer number of threads and posts on AVS on this very topic show how entrenched these beliefs are. I doubt we will ever persuade anyone to change their mind. At the end of the day it's their money I guess and they can spend waste it in any way they choose. 

Reply
Reply
post #132 of 873
12/14/12 at 6:57am
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post


Quite. And change!


That is true, but faith is a powerful thing (I am told it can move mountains, but have seen no independent corroboration). Once someone becomes a believer, it is very difficult to change their mind. No matter how much scientific evidence and proof you put before them, their faith generally prevails. Even the results of double blind tests won't convince them ("I know what I hear... the test is flawed.. all I need is my ears... there are audible differences that can't be measured" etc etc). They have only themselves to blame but I still feel sorry for them because they are spending hard-earned money where it can make no difference, when they could be spending the same money and getting a terrific difference/improvement. It is a pity that they miss out on genuine improvements to their SQ in favour of perceived improvements which we know and can prove are not real.

The sheer number of threads and posts on AVS on this very topic show how entrenched these beliefs are. I doubt we will ever persuade anyone to change their mind. At the end of the day it's their money I guess and they can spend waste it in any way they choose. 
The only way to convince a "believer" is to have them actually *participate* in a double-blind test. When they see how poorly they perform at identifying the "upgraded" DUT, they begin to question their own beliefs. Nonetheless, a subset of the believers will still try to demonize the test, or minimize it's usefulness, rather than question their beliefs.

On a lighter note, I only have 4 months until my new Grim Reaper power cord comes in. I've been saving my pennies so I can afford the $200,000. I don't want to have to take out a 2nd mortgage on my house to pay for it. Once I get it, I plan to do a double-blind test, (i.e., I'll listen with both eyes closed.) I am certain I'll be able to tell the difference between it and the stock power cord. However, if I can't, I'll open one eye and see if I can tell with a "single-blind" test.

Craig
Reply
Reply
post #133 of 873
12/14/12 at 7:07am
Quote:
Originally Posted by craig john View Post

 
On a lighter note, I only have 4 months until my new Grim Reaper power cord comes in. I've been saving my pennies so I can afford the $200,000. I don't want to have to take out a 2nd mortgage on my house to pay for it. Once I get it, I plan to do a double-blind test, (i.e., I'll listen with both eyes closed.) I am certain I'll be able to tell the difference between it and the stock power cord. However, if I can't, I'll open one eye and see if I can tell with a "single-blind" test.

Craig

 

:)  At least you are going into this with your eyes wide open. Er..... 

Reply
Reply
post #134 of 873
12/14/12 at 11:19am
One day, someone is going to write a very interesting book on how the "audiophile" cable companies developed and executed their product marketing.

They've managed to get a large segment of the market to abandon all reason (and science) - pretty impressive when you think about it.
Reply
Reply
post #135 of 873
12/14/12 at 1:41pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by craig john View Post

It musta upgraded somadose zeros inta ones!
Craig
Haha...not all those zeros and ones are created equally!.. Don't knock it till ya try it..promise you will Neva go back!
Reply
Reply
post #136 of 873
12/14/12 at 1:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Haha...not all those zeros and ones are created equally!.. Don't knock it till ya try it..promise you will Neva go back!
Oops....sorry wrong thread...its my money..my system...my ears....I know there is a diffrence''some may be slight..some not..I'm sure you all think amps and DACs and everything else sounds the same also!..well if this was true..then all of us would just have a alia boom box and all of us would be happy...cya!...carry on enjoy your systems and have a very merry Xmas!
Reply
Reply
post #137 of 873
12/14/12 at 2:51pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyyoung749 View Post

H, guys im planning to get b&w cm1 speakers with amps,dac. I know i have to buy rca cables,speaker cable and usb cables for my pcfi. I already reached my maximum budget so im looking for best audio cable for low budget. Im looking forward to spent high quality cables in the future but now i need all the cables for about 100 dollars. Can you guys give me recommendation? Thank you.

Speaker cables is way beyond too tough in my experience and opinion.

Not that I'm disinterested in speaker cables. smile.gif

But interconnect cable is somewhat easier.

So my own *best value* for analog/digital RCA interconnect cable is...

Easy, it's 1st rate Canare RCA connectors together with RG-6 video type cable ((solid center copper) with foil/braid shielding).

Best (in my 1st hand experience as a pleased customer) is to buy from Blue Jean Cable web site, but I see that they seem to be gone; meaning out of business?
Reply
Reply
post #138 of 873
12/14/12 at 3:28pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfreedma View Post

One day, someone is going to write a very interesting book on how the "audiophile" cable companies developed and executed their product marketing.
They've managed to get a large segment of the market to abandon all reason (and science) - pretty impressive when you think about it.

How is it different from other consumer marketplace. One only have to look at all those claims out there like homeopathic remedies, balance bracelets, psychics, magnetic rings for wine bottles, and on it goes. wink.gifbiggrin.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Haha...not all those zeros and ones are created equally!.. ..!

How are they and do they become different???
Quote:
Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Oops....sorry wrong thread...its my money..my system...my ears....I know there is a diffrence''some may be slight..some not..I'm sure you all think amps and DACs and everything else sounds the same also!..well if this was true..then all of us would just have a alia boom box and all of us would be happy...cya!...carry on enjoy your systems and have a very merry Xmas!

Know? How do you know??? One can suppose, perceive, imagine, think, but how do you know???
Reply
Reply
post #139 of 873
12/14/12 at 5:07pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by OtherSongs View Post


Best (in my 1st hand experience as a pleased customer) is to buy from Blue Jean Cable web site, but I see that they seem to be gone; meaning out of business?

nah, you probably didn't pluralize "Jean". The website only appears when the "s" is included. I always forget if it's "jeans" or "jean" too, not to mention, "cable" or "cables" in their website address. biggrin.gif
Reply
Reply
post #140 of 873
12/14/12 at 5:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJ View Post


Know? How do you know??? One can suppose, perceive, imagine, think, but how do you know???

Doesn't matter how. He knows what he knows because he knows it!!!
Reply
Reply
post #141 of 873
12/14/12 at 6:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJ View Post

How is it different from other consumer marketplace. One only have to look at all those claims out there like homeopathic remedies, balance bracelets, psychics, magnetic rings for wine bottles, and on it goes. wink.gifbiggrin.gif
How are they and do they become different???
Know? How do you know??? One can suppose, perceive, imagine, think, but how do you know???
BECUSE I..repeat I..KNOW..that's how...I suppose ya probably don't believe in Santa Claus either..do ya?
I Know and that is all that matters!..have a wonderful weekend!
Reply
Reply
post #142 of 873
12/14/12 at 6:11pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

Doesn't matter how. He knows what he knows because he knows it!!!
Thank you cruelinventions!
Reply
Reply
post #143 of 873
12/14/12 at 6:20pm
Congrats, it appears you've managed to squeeze every last ounce of edumacation from your Yale experience!
Reply
Reply
post #144 of 873
12/14/12 at 6:33pm
Hey..I'm not here to argue over what I hear or think..that's not up to you to tell me 'I'm imagining' what I KNOW I hear and see..we are all here because we share a love for good music and great gear..maybe my senses are above average..I don't know...what I DO KNOW is that I have tryed many many diff. Cables in my system and I have heard diffrences..some good some great some bad...but its up to ME to decide that...not you!..hi-if is my passion...I own very nice gear..parasound halo amps..paradigm studio speakers..hi end DACs..etc..and yes very good cables including all upgraded power cords...I am just posting on this thread..that is called..suggestions for cables,...so what's the problem here?
If ya wanna take some fishing line and wrap it in alluminum foil and use it for speaker wire..cool whatever!
Reply
Reply
post #145 of 873
12/14/12 at 6:35pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

nah, you probably didn't pluralize "Jean". The website only appears when the "s" is included. I always forget if it's "jeans" or "jean" too, not to mention, "cable" or "cables" in their website address. biggrin.gif

Thanks very much!

So Blue Jeans Cable still exists!!

So there is hope!

The site that I wanted to reference for RCA interconnects is: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/digital-audio/index.htm

Which has the title of "Digital Audio Cables" and features Canare RCAP RCA connectors and quality RG-6 wire.

A far better description is "Very Very High Quality RCA Audio Cables" (VVHQRCAAC) biggrin.gif
Reply
Reply
post #146 of 873
12/14/12 at 6:48pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

Congrats, it appears you've managed to squeeze every last ounce of edumacation from your Yale experience!
????...so you do not agree with me?
Reply
Reply
post #147 of 873
12/14/12 at 7:09pm
.. I have no idea when you are being serious or posting with thumb-your-nose style sarcastic glee anymore. Now I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever posted with gleeful sarcasm. Which frightens me to contemplate.
Reply
Reply
post #148 of 873
12/14/12 at 8:38pm
Amazing, just amazing. This silly subject keeps coming back. Too bad the guys who fall for the BS hook, line, sinker, and bank account have abvsolutely NO CLUE about the, connectors, patch pays, 10.00 paqtch cables, balancing transformers, miles of cable, racks of duping gear, layers of processing and effects running unbalanced signals etc that are used in RECORDING all the music.
Reply
Reply
post #149 of 873
12/14/12 at 8:50pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

.. I have no idea when you are being serious or posting with thumb-your-nose style sarcastic glee anymore. Now I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever posted with gleeful sarcasm. Which frightens me to contemplate.
I'm not being sarcastic at all..I'm totally serious with this!..I just really can not understand why a majority of people here do not agree that cables ..speaker or interconnects do not make a difference..I'm serious! No sarcasm!
Reply
Reply
post #150 of 873
12/14/12 at 9:19pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

if you had a grasp of even the basic fundamentals of how tmds "works", you'd realize that it's not possible for a hdmi cable blow another one "right out ta the wata"...
unless one of them is not "working" at all...
fwiw... my system, while far from the most indulgent here at avs, is far from "inexpensive"...
carry on...
Sooo..I went and bought a 8$ HDMI cable from general dollar..took out my audio quest..and omg!..the blacks were gray..the color was way off and the audio did not match up with the video!
Put my audioquest back in and it was like the moon going down and the sun coming up..you can not tell me all HDMI cables are identical!
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat

AVS Top Picks

AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Audio theory, Setup and Chat › any suggestions for cables?