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Vizio E500i-A1 ???

post #1 of 83
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http://store.vizio.com/e500ia1-1.html

I saw it at Costco, does anyone have it? I can't find a single thing about it online, other than the fact that it is sold out at amazon and walmart. The Vizio website is really lacking, and I'd like to know some more information on it.
post #2 of 83
So is this the same tv that comes in 60" and 70" variations? I haven't seen this 50" in the flesh yet.

Thanks,

-Guru
post #3 of 83
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Originally Posted by ListedGuru View Post

So is this the same tv that comes in 60" and 70" variations? I haven't seen this 50" in the flesh yet.
Thanks,
-Guru

Definitely not the same, at least cosmetically. I saw this model last weekend at costco and the panel had to be at least 3 inches thick. That could be a good thing as far as back lighting goes. I think it was $649. It looked like a solid tv from the brief time I saw it.
post #4 of 83
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Originally Posted by Sonyboy View Post

Definitely not the same, at least cosmetically. I saw this model last weekend at costco and the panel had to be at least 3 inches thick. That could be a good thing as far as back lighting goes. I think it was $649. It looked like a solid tv from the brief time I saw it.

Interesting. Thanks for the reply. I thought it might be the same as the design of the bezel is the same with Vizio located in the lower right hand quarter. I guess maybe this is their new design for all their new tv's. Maybe it's back light then if it's that thick. I'll have to pop into my local costco.

-Guru
post #5 of 83
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Definitely not the same, at least cosmetically. I saw this model last weekend at costco and the panel had to be at least 3 inches thick. That could be a good thing as far as back lighting goes. I think it was $649. It looked like a solid tv from the brief time I saw it.

It's thick because it is full array, but with local dimming.

post #6 of 83
It looked like a solid tv from the brief time I saw it.a116.jpg
post #7 of 83
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It's thick because it is full array, but with local dimming.

Are you sure it's full array and not direct-lit LED, i.e., back-lit with LED instead of CCFL?
post #8 of 83
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Are you sure it's full array and not direct-lit LED, i.e., back-lit with LED instead of CCFL?

I would be very surprised if it was full array led. I'm thinking it's direct-lit which isn't really bad either. Looking forward to seeing one of these in the flesh:)

-Guru
post #9 of 83
One other thing. How is the screen on this? Matte or shiny? That will make a difference to me.

Thanks,

-Guru
post #10 of 83
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One other thing. How is the screen on this? Matte or shiny? That will make a difference to me.
Thanks,
-Guru

I live chatted with support and asked, its Matte Finish.

 

Apparently the Vizio website is wrong because Tech Support was adamant about it being edge lit, but still with local dimming. The Vizio website lists it plainly as being LED but with a picture of a full array setup and not Razor LED. They had no information about the type of LCD, also the television doesn't support deep color and X.V.YCC. The 120 hz is non adjustable and always on.

 

I'm stuck between this and a panasonic TC-L47E50.

post #11 of 83
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Edited by jvw1 - 12/7/12 at 7:01pm
post #12 of 83
Quote:
Definitely not the same, at least cosmetically. I saw this model last weekend at costco and the panel had to be at least 3 inches thick. That could be a good thing as far as back lighting goes. I think it was $649. It looked like a solid tv from the brief time I saw it

I have been looking for this TV as well and was almost fooled by the display at Sams today. They had the E601i-a3 on one side of the display, then I walked over to the other side and saw a 50" E series Vizio TV and got excited for a bit. Only to realize it was the E502AR.
Edited by jvw1 - 1/23/13 at 6:27am
post #13 of 83
They are around but just not in retail stores as of yet. I just received mine December 4th from Dell.

FACT: This is a direct-lit led tv NOT edge lit and is deeper than the 60" and 70" by aprox two inches. Also the E500i-A1 does not come with the two sided remote with qwerty keyboard. The two sided qwerty remote that comes with the bigger models is remote XRT302 and can be found on ebay cheaper than anywhere at this time. I will report back if in fact it will work with the E500i-A1.
post #14 of 83
Just received the qwerty remote,

It works great! Check ebay for XRT302 remote. Documentation for it would be in the 60" or 70" inch models manual.
post #15 of 83
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Originally Posted by buildersboy View Post

They are around but just not in retail stores as of yet. I just received mine December 4th from Dell.
FACT: This is a direct-lit led tv NOT edge lit and is deeper than the 60" and 70" by aprox two inches. Also the E500i-A1 does not come with the two sided remote with qwerty keyboard. The two sided qwerty remote that comes with the bigger models is remote XRT302 and can be found on ebay cheaper than anywhere at this time. I will report back if in fact it will work with the E500i-A1.

So how is the tv? Any flashlighting? Motion issues? Soap opera effect?

-Guru
post #16 of 83
Absolutely not any of these issues in the E500i-A1. This tv is no comparison to the 60" or 70" models. Im just glad I did not take the bait on the 60". The E500i-A1 does not have the smooth motion feature, does have smart dimming. Definitely a backlit LED, trust me I have this tv. Very happy with it so far.
post #17 of 83
I just received my E500i-A1 and set it up. I have been using a Panasonic 50phd8uk plasma screen (professional video screen) as my home TV since 2005, and it is a definite change going to the LED. At first glance, I think I liked the plasma better.... the picture just seemed more crisp. Is this something others have experienced? Is it not better or worse but just different than a plasma?

Maybe I don't have the right setting. What settings is everybody else using on their Vizio E500i-A1?
post #18 of 83
I just bought the the set and will be returning it promptly. Best buy received a shipment this week and was surprised to see them on the floor. I brought it home and set it up there is considerable banding over the entirety of the screen. I sit about ten feet away dead center on the screen and it appears to wash out toward the edge of the screen. The Standard and movie setting were the only remotely useful settings after using the WOW calibration disc. After lowering the backlight to around 35, Brightness:40 and contrast:51 the screen looked only slightly better. My parents own a Sony EX720 and my wife owns a Samsung D450 plasma and this set is worlds behind their performance. Vizio set's that I have owned in the past have had great motion performance with very little lag in gaming, but this cannot handle motion at all. I use Deadspace as test for shadow detail, black level performance and motion performance and sadly this failed on all accounts. I re-adjusted the in game brightness to about 75% before it would even show detail in any of the environments. Once I was able to see the detail I wished I hadn't, because once I moved Isaac in game I notice little bluish halos around many object and areas of black simply left black and bluish trails in their wake. I have tried game setting in picture settings, have set the TV to game mode all the usual culprits, but nothing has worked. I will be returning this set tonight.
post #19 of 83
So this set has full array with local dimming?
post #20 of 83
On cnet it says edge led with local dimming.

Yet some people say in this thread that its full aray / direct led with local dimming maybe because this tv is fat?

So what is it really?

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-e500i-a1/4505-6482_7-35546028.html
Edited by Dark_Planet - 12/23/12 at 7:19pm
post #21 of 83
cnet specs are wrong. I wrote the editor and they will be correcting them. Wal Mart has official vizio monitors that take questions about their tvs. The Wal Mart specs are correct and also review their question and answers. Many sites state its edge lit and some do not, some say it comes with the qwerty remote, it does not. On a totally black screen there is no flashlighting, or brightness at the edges. Vizio tech support also states it is direct lit, specs and description make no mention at all that the e500i-a1 is a "razor" model.

My only issue is the default color settings out of box, very washed out vs other vizios I have. I tweaked it to perfection and very pleased with it, Im not a gamer so cannot comment on that. Awesome tv period.
post #22 of 83
Thanks for responding........I have one more question.

While watching a movie at night time with smart dimming set to max.........Are black bars on letterbox movies pitch black?

This set is looking better than the sony hx750.
post #23 of 83
yes
post #24 of 83
I would like to try this set but things like this push me away from the vizio brand.

http://hdguru.com/disposable-tvs-vizio-tells-owners-their-sets-are-un-repairable/5485/
post #25 of 83
Ok I am seriously considering this T.V. but have some questions first..

How is the banding and light bleed/flashlighting on this set?

How is the motion? Does it suffer from the SOE?

Also how is the glare off the screen?

Any pictures would be much appreciated smile.gif

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!
post #26 of 83
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Originally Posted by Dark_Planet View Post

So this set has full array with local dimming?[/quote
It is a pseudo full array. Samsungs attempt to alleviate issues with uniformity by moving the LED arrays from the edge to the rear of the panel. It is very similar to how LCD with CCFL backlights did in the past.
Similar to this:
http://www.cybersharq.com/uploads/2011/08/d5de7a388fers2_11.jpg1.jpg
While it is called smart dimming it work the same way that Samsung's Standard Micro dimming feature works by dimming the entire screen, not zones. Since Vizio is simply an OEM manufacturer (not producing any of their own parts) you can usually find where the base unit started. In this case probably the Samsung EH5000 model.
post #27 of 83
How are the built in speakers on this set? I know that you would want to use a receiver with surround sound for movies/games but I usually just use the built in speakers when I'm watching the news or something like that and don't need superior sound quality. Would the built in speakers get the job done?
post #28 of 83
I have not tried the speakers much if at all. I use a Dolby Digital receiver 5.1 set up at all times. If it were just for news etc that you will use the tv speakers why would they not be ok to use? Kinda a dumb question. If you enjoy turning them off then on between use of a receiver or tv have at it, overall this is a waste of time.
post #29 of 83
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Originally Posted by buildersboy View Post

cnet specs are wrong. I wrote the editor and they will be correcting them. Wal Mart has official vizio monitors that take questions about their tvs. The Wal Mart specs are correct and also review their question and answers. Many sites state its edge lit and some do not, some say it comes with the qwerty remote, it does not. On a totally black screen there is no flashlighting, or brightness at the edges. Vizio tech support also states it is direct lit, specs and description make no mention at all that the e500i-a1 is a "razor" model.
My only issue is the default color settings out of box, very washed out vs other vizios I have. I tweaked it to perfection and very pleased with it, Im not a gamer so cannot comment on that. Awesome tv period.

Hello buildersboy.

Can you share all of your color settings you use for the Vizio? There are so many settings in the menu that I sometimes feel like I'm going in circles.
Thanks!
post #30 of 83
Crank the color up to about 67 with the contrast around 57 the backlight at 25 and the brightness at 40 and the sharpness at 10
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