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post #61 of 76
11/23/12 at 6:28am
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Thanks All! I've got my final build. Ordered everything!

Case:
SilverStone Aluminum/Steel Micro ATX Media Center/HTPC Case ML03B (Black) - $53.99
Motherboard:
ASRock H77M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $59.99
Power Supply:
SeaSonic SSR-360GP 360W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $59.99
Processor:
Intel Core i3-3225 Dual-Core Processor 3.3 GHz 3 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80637i33225 - $136.99
SSD:
OCZ Technology 128GB Vertex 4 Series SATA 6Gb/s - $74.99
RAM:
Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX 8GB Desktop Memory Kit - DDR3, (2 x 4GB), PC3-12800, 1600MHz, CL9, Intel XMP Ready - $35.59
Optical Drive:
LG Electronics 10X Blu-Ray SATA Writer Drive with Software WH10LS30K (Black) - $74.99
Grand Total - $496.53

I have to pick my TV next. We move into our first house in 2 weeks from today.
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post #62 of 76
11/23/12 at 6:42am
Thats a great build for the money. Also check out the SiliconDust HDHomeRun Prime on Newegg for $130 if you want a cableCARD tuner.
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post #63 of 76
11/23/12 at 8:43am
I'd have gotten the 180gb Intel 330 for $100 over that SSD. OCZ scares me.

Edit: What brand and size TV are you looking to get?
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post #64 of 76
11/23/12 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by fifteenfeetoff View Post

I'd have gotten the 180gb Intel 330 for $100 over that SSD. OCZ scares me.
Edit: What brand and size TV are you looking to get?

Technically- The OCZ is a better reliability choice. This is validated by AnandTech and other professional review sites.

While you make dislike OCZ for personal reasons that's cool- but here is some facts:

OCZ has full 5 year Warranty.
OCZ Vertex 4 uses the same Marvel controller that everyone raves about as most reliable (same as Crucial M4 and many other popular SSDS)
OCZ uses the same sources NAND inside as most others
OCZ is faster, higher performance
OCZ is Cheaper

In comparision- The Sandforce controllers have been suspect in certain areas on performance and even with Intel. It seems the TRIM might not work properly because of the Sandforce design.

Sandforce controllers are still a great option and work well. I have over 10 of them.

But I thought I'd provide a more balanced opinion.

Saying you don't like a brand is fine. But assuming others share your same fear and then suggesting someone spend more on much less makes little sense to me.
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post #65 of 76
11/23/12 at 9:38am
Some more about Intel: Looks like the 320 has had some bugs of it's own.
http://communities.intel.com/message/133499
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4625/intel-testing-firmware-fix-for-ssd-320-8mb-power-bug
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Originally Posted by fifteenfeetoff View Post

I'd have gotten the 180gb Intel 330 for $100 over that SSD. OCZ scares me.
Edit: What brand and size TV are you looking to get?

More on this- What makes you think the Intel is more reliable than the OCZ?

Here's an interesting article I read today:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6107/corsair-force-series-gs-240gb-review
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Introduction to the TRIM Issue

TRIM in SandForce based SSDs has always been trickier than with other SSDs due to the fact that SandForce's way to deal with data is a lot more complicated. Instead of just writing the data to the NAND as other SSDs do, SandForce employs a real-time compression and de-duplication engine. When even your basic design is a lot more complex, there is a higher chance that something will go wrong. When other SSDs receive a TRIM command, they can simply clean the blocks with invalid data and that's it. SandForce, on the other hand, has to check if the data is used by something else (i.e. thanks to de-duplication). You don't want your SSD to erase data that can be crucial to your system's stability, do you?

As we have shown in dozens of reviews, TRIM doesn't work properly when dealing with incompressible data. It never has. That means when the drive is filled and tortured with incompressible data, it's put to a state where even TRIM does not fully restore performance. Since even Intel's own proprietary firmware didn't fix this, I believe the problem is so deep in the design that there is just no way to completely fix it. However, the TRIM issue we are dealing with today has nothing to do with incompressible data: now TRIM doesn't work properly with compressible data either.

All that aside- Intel is an excellent SSD choice and a good value at $99. I like Sandforce Drives and I like Intel.

My point is just that I saw no point in your post when the OP just posted he already bought and made a decision. Suggesting he made a mistake is not productive at that point, his decision had been made.

Personally I admit to everyone I hate Crucial SSD's and I often do post some feelings I have about how they are generally overated- But I try not to post that to someone who just bought one. It's just not polite.

I'd have overlooked your post more I agreed and felt there was some valid reasons to your point. But my common sense showed me 5 years warranty vs 3 years warranty- Faster performance specs- and $25 cheaper- Plus no Sandforce Controller inside... It all just adds up with my math to a better choice. Vertex4 > Intel 320
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post #66 of 76
11/23/12 at 9:51am
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I won't sweat my decisions. The SSD won't be important for storing video permanently. Mainly running the os, and streaming. I'll back up my config on my main computer.

I haven't decided on the TV. I was seriously looking at the Vizio M3D550KD but it is now more expensive on Amazon. I'm going to have to do a lot more research now that that one is out of the picture. I refuse to go to BestBuy today. They had tape on the floor around the store designating lines.
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post #67 of 76
11/23/12 at 10:10am
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Anyone's thoughts on this one?

Samsung 55 Inch 1080p 120Hz
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post #68 of 76
11/23/12 at 10:21am
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033


http://www.amazon.com/Antec-EarthWatts-EA-380D-BRONZE-Supply/dp/B002UOR17Y/ref=pd_sim_e_1


I really like these PSU's, saves you a little money.

earthwatts 380W
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post #69 of 76
11/23/12 at 10:22am
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Originally Posted by elliscs View Post

Anyone's thoughts on this one?
Samsung 55 Inch 1080p 120Hz

My dad has a samsung 55" from a couple of years ago, its got a great picture.
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post #70 of 76
11/23/12 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by elliscs View Post

Thanks All! I've got my final build. Ordered everything!
Case:
SilverStone Aluminum/Steel Micro ATX Media Center/HTPC Case ML03B (Black) - $53.99
Motherboard:
ASRock H77M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $59.99
Power Supply:
SeaSonic SSR-360GP 360W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $59.99
Processor:
Intel Core i3-3225 Dual-Core Processor 3.3 GHz 3 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80637i33225 - $136.99
SSD:
OCZ Technology 128GB Vertex 4 Series SATA 6Gb/s - $74.99
RAM:
Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX 8GB Desktop Memory Kit - DDR3, (2 x 4GB), PC3-12800, 1600MHz, CL9, Intel XMP Ready - $35.59
Optical Drive:
LG Electronics 10X Blu-Ray SATA Writer Drive with Software WH10LS30K (Black) - $74.99
Grand Total - $496.53
I have to pick my TV next. We move into our first house in 2 weeks from today.

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Originally Posted by jeffkro View Post

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
I really like these PSU's, saves you a little money.
earthwatts 380W

Already bought one, but thanks though.
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post #71 of 76
11/23/12 at 10:32am
I bought an LG 55LM7600 a couple of months ago an I love it. Beautiful picture and a thin bezel. Other features it has that I don't use are reasonably good sounding speakers, "magic" motion sensing remote, smart TV apps, and 2D to 3D conversion. Amazon had a deal where you got the TV, 12 pairs of glasses and a LG BluRay player for $1,400.
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post #72 of 76
11/23/12 at 10:45am
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I bought an LG 55LM7600 a couple of months ago an I love it. Beautiful picture and a thin bezel. Other features it has that I don't use are reasonably good sounding speakers, "magic" motion sensing remote, smart TV apps, and 2D to 3D conversion. Amazon had a deal where you got the TV, 12 pairs of glasses and a LG BluRay player for $1,400.

Looks like a great deal. How does the 2D to 3D conversion look? I had seen that mentioned, but figure it was above my budget. I was looking around the $1000 mark. I have some money to work with, but this is our first house and we have tons of other stuff to buy as well. (Fridge, dining table, shovel, and other nonsense)
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post #73 of 76
11/23/12 at 1:34pm
I think the conversion is kind of cool but very dependent on what your watching. I haven't tried video games yet but I think it would look pretty good.
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post #74 of 76
11/23/12 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Compare:
- WH14NS40: the latest model, 165mm deep
- WH10LS30K: 3-year old, 172mm deep
I strongly recommend WH14NS40 (OEM) or BH14NS40 (retail, that comes with a bunch of software including PowerDVD 10 [not the latest version]).
The space between PSU and ODD is small and sleeved cables may be difficult to handle. But don't complain to me. smile.gif
I don't think you need case fans. The system runs pretty cool.

Just realized I never updated to the WH14NS40, do you think it will be a problem?
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post #75 of 76
11/23/12 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by elliscs View Post

Just realized I never updated to the WH14NS40, do you think it will be a problem?

Ordered this through Amazon, asked for a cancellation. Will see if they give it to me. If they do I'm definitely going with the other one. *Facepalm*
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post #76 of 76
11/27/12 at 5:29pm
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Got the PSU and case today. Rest should come tomorrow.
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