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post #121 of 618
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Originally Posted by LVS View Post

Thanks Damian and Canton I will give it a try... yes, I have 3d projector. What are the advantages if any of ripping a 3d iso versus using SBS or TB when ripping with MKV?

If you want a lossless rip then 3D Iso or mvc mkv (via Makemkv, which I believe is a TB rip) is what you want to do. There are many other options out there to create 3D mkvs (half sbs, etc...) but many of them require encoding so you are altering the original source
post #122 of 618
I received my 600X over the weekend, but I didn't get to play with it until a few minutes late last night. I just plugged it in and changed a few settings. I am connecting an external hdd to the device and was testing out some 3d iso files, but they did not play. The screen would just go blank and when I hit the info button, it would display the audio and video as unknown but had the chapters, like 1/16 (etc.) along with the full time of the movie, but it did not play. I tested about 8-9 iso files but they did not play. However, I was finally able to get one to play and it was Paranorman. The only thing I can think of is that all of the other 3D movies I ripped to iso, I used AnyDVD HD, with the "Keep Protection" checked. I recall reading that people mentioned to have the keep protection on so that it is like a true 1-1 rip of the movie. For Paranorman, I believe since my trial version of AnyDVD was over, I used DVDFab to rip it to iso. I didn't notice a check box similar to AnyDVD with the 'Keep Protection' for DVDFab. So I am not sure what DVDFab's default settings are for the protection feature.

Does this mean I have to re-rip my 3D movies with the protection taken away, and if so, is this the default behavior for DVDFab? Can you remove the protection from an iso, or do you have to either re-rip the original disc or re-rip the protected iso into a non-protected iso? I did play around with hitting the 'F3' button to turn off BD menu but that did not work either.

Not sure if I am missing something but I was super duper tired last night while playing with the device for about 30 mins.

Thanks,
post #123 of 618
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Originally Posted by kikkoman View Post

I received my 600X over the weekend, but I didn't get to play with it until a few minutes late last night. I just plugged it in and changed a few settings. I am connecting an external hdd to the device and was testing out some 3d iso files, but they did not play. The screen would just go blank and when I hit the info button, it would display the audio and video as unknown but had the chapters, like 1/16 (etc.) along with the full time of the movie, but it did not play. I tested about 8-9 iso files but they did not play. However, I was finally able to get one to play and it was Paranorman. The only thing I can think of is that all of the other 3D movies I ripped to iso, I used AnyDVD HD, with the "Keep Protection" checked. I recall reading that people mentioned to have the keep protection on so that it is like a true 1-1 rip of the movie. For Paranorman, I believe since my trial version of AnyDVD was over, I used DVDFab to rip it to iso. I didn't notice a check box similar to AnyDVD with the 'Keep Protection' for DVDFab. So I am not sure what DVDFab's default settings are for the protection feature.

Does this mean I have to re-rip my 3D movies with the protection taken away, and if so, is this the default behavior for DVDFab? Can you remove the protection from an iso, or do you have to either re-rip the original disc or re-rip the protected iso into a non-protected iso? I did play around with hitting the 'F3' button to turn off BD menu but that did not work either.

Not sure if I am missing something but I was super duper tired last night while playing with the device for about 30 mins.

Thanks,

All my 3D BD ISO are rip with AnyDVD HD (With the "keep protection" not check). I have not test all my 3D ISO on the mede8er but the 6-7 titles I tested, they all play without any issues.
post #124 of 618
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Originally Posted by kikkoman View Post

I received my 600X over the weekend, but I didn't get to play with it until a few minutes late last night. I just plugged it in and changed a few settings. I am connecting an external hdd to the device and was testing out some 3d iso files, but they did not play. The screen would just go blank and when I hit the info button, it would display the audio and video as unknown but had the chapters, like 1/16 (etc.) along with the full time of the movie, but it did not play. I tested about 8-9 iso files but they did not play. However, I was finally able to get one to play and it was Paranorman. The only thing I can think of is that all of the other 3D movies I ripped to iso, I used AnyDVD HD, with the "Keep Protection" checked. I recall reading that people mentioned to have the keep protection on so that it is like a true 1-1 rip of the movie. For Paranorman, I believe since my trial version of AnyDVD was over, I used DVDFab to rip it to iso. I didn't notice a check box similar to AnyDVD with the 'Keep Protection' for DVDFab. So I am not sure what DVDFab's default settings are for the protection feature.
Does this mean I have to re-rip my 3D movies with the protection taken away, and if so, is this the default behavior for DVDFab? Can you remove the protection from an iso, or do you have to either re-rip the original disc or re-rip the protected iso into a non-protected iso? I did play around with hitting the 'F3' button to turn off BD menu but that did not work either.
Not sure if I am missing something but I was super duper tired last night while playing with the device for about 30 mins.
Thanks,

You need to remove the protection with AnyDVD.
post #125 of 618
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Originally Posted by RickAVManiac View Post

All my 3D BD ISO are rip with AnyDVD HD (With the "keep protection" not check). I have not test all my 3D ISO on the mede8er but the 6-7 titles I tested, they all play without any issues.
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

You need to remove the protection with AnyDVD.

Thanks RickAVManiac and robnix! Dang, that means I have to re-rip all my 3D movies, that's like 15 movies or so. So can you let me know what is the benefit of keeping the protection on the iso's then?
post #126 of 618
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Originally Posted by kikkoman View Post

Thanks RickAVManiac and robnix! Dang, that means I have to re-rip all my 3D movies, that's like 15 movies or so. So can you let me know what is the benefit of keeping the protection on the iso's then?

There is none. It's only there to keep 1 to 1 rips from being played by devices that haven't purchased a bluray license.
post #127 of 618
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

There is none. It's only there to keep 1 to 1 rips from being played by devices that haven't purchased a bluray license.

I see. Man, I wish I would've known that before ripping my 3D movies. I was trying to prep and have movies ripped before the 600X came in. I guess with the protected iso, you can just mount that as a drive and then use DVDFab to create a non-protected iso from it.

I know people mentioned that with PowerDVD and TMT, they have the Cinavia protection so that you won't be able to play your 3D iso files on the newer discs. Even though I don't use PowerDVD or TMT at this time, if you remove the protection from the iso files, will those programs play those files?

Thanks,
post #128 of 618
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Originally Posted by kikkoman View Post

I see. Man, I wish I would've known that before ripping my 3D movies. I was trying to prep and have movies ripped before the 600X came in. I guess with the protected iso, you can just mount that as a drive and then use DVDFab to create a non-protected iso from it.
I know people mentioned that with PowerDVD and TMT, they have the Cinavia protection so that you won't be able to play your 3D iso files on the newer discs. Even though I don't use PowerDVD or TMT at this time, if you remove the protection from the iso files, will those programs play those files?
Thanks,

Not the Cinavia protected ones.
post #129 of 618
Just got my 600X3D. Nice, small and almost exactly the same design as the 450X2. Will be eBay-ing my 1000X3D. I find the black color, small form factor and easier-to-access side USB ports worth it. But, if you need internal HDD and like the spaceship design, the 1000X3D is better. It has better build quality has well.
post #130 of 618
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

Just got my 600X3D. Nice, small and almost exactly the same design as the 450X2. Will be eBay-ing my 1000X3D. I find the black color, small form factor and easier-to-access side USB ports worth it. But, if you need internal HDD and like the spaceship design, the 1000X3D is better. It has better build quality has well.

Got my 1000X3D on Friday, it's black as well and sports the redesigned power adapter. smile.gif I could take or leave the spaceship design but I hate external drives (given I've had some issues in the past) and it gives it options for being repurposed in the future if I choose.
post #131 of 618
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Originally Posted by digitalanalogue View Post

Does anyone know if the 600x will take a 3d sbs or tb rip and output it as a framepacked 1080p signal? I've got a Benq w7000 projector and it seems like it's not very good at handling sbs content itself, whereas 3d bluray playback is perfect. I've used a TMT5 demo along with 3DTV Play, on my laptop to achieve this but for the price of 3DTV Play and TMT5 I could just get one of these media players and also avoid tying up my laptop for media playback duties.

Just in case anyone is interested I've got a 600x now and can confirm it does output my sbs rips as framepacked, and thus fixes my problem with the projector. It's also much much convenient as all 3D mode switching on the projector is now automatic. Love it! Just struggling with the jukebox ....
post #132 of 618
Re: the movie jukebox, have you read Mede8er's user guide on their site? It's written fairly well.
post #133 of 618
Mede8er - Y2M - Movie Jukebox Online User Guide

http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_y2m_user_guide_V2.05a.html

Mede8er1
post #134 of 618
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Originally Posted by digitalanalogue View Post

Just in case anyone is interested I've got a 600x now and can confirm it does output my sbs rips as framepacked, and thus fixes my problem with the projector. It's also much much convenient as all 3D mode switching on the projector is now automatic. Love it! Just struggling with the jukebox ....


Glad to hear the 600x with your projector. Will it work with the BenQ w1070 automatically outputting sbs rips as framepacked?
post #135 of 618
Some feedback for Mede8er X3D users regarding the new V2 Firmware

Our engineers have almost completed the initial porting of the Mede8er code to the new SDK and we got an internal test release today. I must say that I was pleasantly surprised at how stable this beta is considering it is the first on the new SDK. So true 23.976 seems a reality and not a pipe dream and if we can fix the list of things that need attention we may well we in the Beta test phase by the weekend. This is not the only change and amongst other things is the all new flash based YouTUBE app ( Really Impressive smile.gif). We welcome any Mede8er X3D owner to join the X3D Beta Group and participate in the testing.

If you are interested pls send a mail to technical@Mede8er.com with your Mede8erforum.com user name and your location and list of equipment in your AV Setup.

Mede8er1
post #136 of 618
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Originally Posted by mede8er1 View Post

Some feedback for Mede8er X3D users regarding the new V2 Firmware
Our engineers have almost completed the initial porting of the Mede8er code to the new SDK and we got an internal test release today. I must say that I was pleasantly surprised at how stable this beta is considering it is the first on the new SDK. So true 23.976 seems a reality and not a pipe dream and if we can fix the list of things that need attention we may well we in the Beta test phase by the weekend. This is not the only change and amongst other things is the all new flash based YouTUBE app ( Really Impressive smile.gif). We welcome any Mede8er X3D owner to join the X3D Beta Group and participate in the testing.
If you are interested pls send a mail to technical@Mede8er.com with your Mede8erforum.com user name and your location and list of equipment in your AV Setup.
Mede8er1

Sweet. Sending email.

Thanks!
post #137 of 618
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Originally Posted by westmonk View Post

Glad to hear the 600x with your projector. Will it work with the BenQ w1070 automatically outputting sbs rips as framepacked?

Does the w1070 auto switch to 3D when you, for example, play a 3D blu ray? the w7000 does, whereas outputting sbs 3d from an hdmi 1.3 device, like the WDTV live, would require the user to manually select 3d on the projector and cycle through the different modes. Now with the Mede8er it's all automatic, provided the files stick to the naming convention, i.e. *.3DSBS.mkv or *.sbs.mkv.

I've sorted out the jukebox now, and it looks really cool probably time to retire the WDTV.
Edited by digitalanalogue - 12/20/12 at 6:00am
post #138 of 618
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Originally Posted by digitalanalogue View Post

Does the w1070 auto switch to 3D when you, for example, play a 3D blu ray? the w7000 does, whereas outputting sbs 3d from an hdmi 1.3 device, like the WDTV live, would require the user to manually select 3d on the projector and cycle through the different modes. Now with the Mede8er it's all automatic, provided the files stick to the naming convention, i.e. *.3DSBS.mkv or *.sbs.mkv.
I've sorted out the jukebox now, and it looks really cool probably time to retire the WDTV.

Many thanks for your reply. Expecting to receive the w1070 any day now, and hope to get the 600x3D later which is pretty costly when MediaConcept adds an additional $46 import charges (for importing to Canada???) plus $16 shipping.
post #139 of 618
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Originally Posted by westmonk View Post

Many thanks for your reply. Expecting to receive the w1070 any day now, and hope to get the 600x3D later which is pretty costly when MediaConcept adds an additional $46 import charges (for importing to Canada???) plus $16 shipping.

Hi, just to let you know that I ordered my 600 on the 13th and got it today (I'm in Canada as well). I bought from his eBay shop and had to pay those amounts, which correspond to provincial and federal sales tax, plus maybe a small brokerage fee. Pretty hard to avoid those for us Canadians! The good thing is that at least there are no surprises (like with UPS for example), you know in advance how much it will cost.
post #140 of 618
Just ordered a 600. Now to decide on what 3d projector to upgrade to... The mede8er was the easy decision smile.gif.
post #141 of 618
The Optoma HD33 (or 3300) is a terrific bargain. I was an early adopter and still love it. Using it with a 120" 16:9 screen.
post #142 of 618
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

The Optoma HD33 (or 3300) is a terrific bargain. I was an early adopter and still love it. Using it with a 120" 16:9 screen.

I was leaning more towards the w7000 myself. I am concerned about brightness in 3d.. I'm only pushing a 106" 1.0 gain screen so the w7000 might be too much for 2d, but I figure I can run it on eco. I'm a huge fan of DLP over lcd/lcos. I've been looking through forum posts and pictures from the reviews/owners and lcd and lcos just look downright blurry to me. I demand a sharp picture and no ghosting in 3d. I can live with slightly reduced black levels in 2d, that really doesn't stand out to me unless I saw it side by side with an lcd/lcos. However the lack of sharpness and any screen door effect would drive me crazy. I have a 5 year old mits hc1500 so I'm pretty sure any recent dlp would put it to shame and I was fairly happy with it minus the lack of 1080p and lower lumens.

I might have to demo some options though before deciding.. we shall see.
post #143 of 618
Hi all,

A few questions, as I've just installed my 600 this evening. Any help is appreciated.

- Every time I press enter on the remote, the " HDMI 1" is selected on my TV (Panasonic plasma) and thus "HDMI 1" is shown. A bit annoying... Is there a way to remove/prevent this?

- I'm coming from a WD TV and never used the motion smoother (or soap opera effect). It is "off" in my tv settings. But now with the mede8er, I notice a slight soap opera effect. Is this how 24p enabled looks? I guess my old WD TV did not support 24p. My picture settings are HDMI auto, 24hz on and Auto Frame Rate on. Or could it be my AVR (Pioneer 1121)? I did not change any AVR settings.

Thanks!
post #144 of 618
Now that I've had some time to play with the MED600X3D, I'm not really sure what to think. Seems the cons far outweigh the pros for me.

First off, the whole "double-click" remote thing that others have reported really bugs me. I don't understand why a bigger deal isn't being made of this.

The fact that it plays the DD5.1 track (even if it's director commentary) over raw FLAC (that is set as the default) is also annoying, but not necessarily a deal-breaker.

I noticed some judder on a few files. Not a consistent judder, but every once in a while on certain files. Not sure if it's something with my settings or my projector (Sony VPL-HW30). I tried auto frame rate both on and off. Not sure what the 1080p 24hz setting is for.

Just about everything about it is slow. From selecting folders to playing files, there is always a delay.

FF/RR is very clunky and basically not even worth using. I do like the skip forward/back buttons though.

The jukebox leaves a lot to be desired, at least compared to what I'm used to (XBMC). And I had gotten very used to the jukebox just updating automatically.

After using a HTPC with XBMC for so many years, it just seems like I've taken a step back and gone from DVD to VHS (or even Bluray to VHS). I was hoping to to simplify things and not have to deal with all of the hardware/software of a HTPC and have an "all-in-one" simple solution for both 2D and 3D, but it seems that solution just doesn't exist.

One thing I will say is I love the 3D on this thing. Much smoother and simpler than my HTPC solution (nVidia 3DVision/TMT). So I'm actually thinking about just going back to my HTPC w/XBMC for all 2D and just using the Mede8er for the one time a month I might view 3D.

I really wanted to like this little thing, but I guess it's just not for me.
post #145 of 618
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Originally Posted by feadin View Post

Hi all,
A few questions, as I've just installed my 600 this evening. Any help is appreciated.
- Every time I press enter on the remote, the " HDMI 1" is selected on my TV (Panasonic plasma) and thus "HDMI 1" is shown. A bit annoying... Is there a way to remove/prevent this?
- I'm coming from a WD TV and never used the motion smoother (or soap opera effect). It is "off" in my tv settings. But now with the mede8er, I notice a slight soap opera effect. Is this how 24p enabled looks? I guess my old WD TV did not support 24p. My picture settings are HDMI auto, 24hz on and Auto Frame Rate on. Or could it be my AVR (Pioneer 1121)? I did not change any AVR settings.
Thanks!

Ok... maybe I've answered my 24p question by doing a bit of research. I have a Panasonic plasma ST30.

Here are two excerpts I've found over other threads/forums:

- "The only thing I can think of is when feeding the ST50 (or any 2011/2012 Panny) a 24p source with your Panny set to 60Hz, there's some subtle motion smoothing. To remedy this, you'll need to set your player to output 60Hz. If you read through THIS (http://www.**************.com/showthread.php?11035-Panasonic-VT30-series-96Hz-processing-for-24p-Blu-ray#.UAHlbfXtLeA) thread, you'll see a few people notice it (including myself on my ST50). If that's what they were referring to, it's very subtle and it is removable. Not sure if the EUR models are any different."

- "To my eyes, the 24p 60Hz mode on the GT30 [similar to ST30] looks artificially smooth, as if frame interpolation is being used. No one has provided official confirmation of that theory though. For me, disabling 24p at the source results in an enjoyable film like picture. Just to reconfirm my thoughts on this, 10 minutes ago I looked at Dark Night with 24p enabled and then disabled. It looked "off" and distractingly smooth when in 24p. When 24p was disabled (on the PS3) it looked like a movie should look again."

So I might just disable the 1080p 24HZ function on the Mede8er (and perhaps play with the TV System setting) to remove the slight soap opera effect that I have detected. Will try this tomorrow.
Any thoughts?
post #146 of 618
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Originally Posted by ScoHo View Post

Now that I've had some time to play with the MED600X3D, I'm not really sure what to think. Seems the cons far outweigh the pros for me.
First off, the whole "double-click" remote thing that others have reported really bugs me. I don't understand why a bigger deal isn't being made of this.
Agree, but not everyone is so picky

The fact that it plays the DD5.1 track (even if it's director commentary) over raw FLAC (that is set as the default) is also annoying, but not necessarily a deal-breaker.
never experienced that, must be something with us movies version

I noticed some judder on a few files. Not a consistent judder, but every once in a while on certain files. Not sure if it's something with my settings or my projector (Sony VPL-HW30). I tried auto frame rate both on and off. Not sure what the 1080p 24hz setting is for.
Leave autoframe off its for european tv, with 25 and 50hz stuff and 1080p 24hz leave on


Just about everything about it is slow. From selecting folders to playing files, there is always a delay.
FF/RR is very clunky and basically not even worth using. I do like the skip forward/back buttons though.
Cant agree with that, the delay is that the GUI Is at 60hz, and the delay is your projector change to 24hz when you play a movie, th same to 25fps, 30fps, or 50fps , the signal change in hdmi x3 and send to receiver and projector that adjust in correct frame. in tvs are faster about 2 seconds, my pj has 4 seconds delay before movies start, thats the way technology works

about the FF/RR read the manual to learn how to handle the remote, you even have slow motion


The jukebox leaves a lot to be desired, at least compared to what I'm used to (XBMC). And I had gotten very used to the jukebox just updating automatically.
After using a HTPC with XBMC for so many years, it just seems like I've taken a step back and gone from DVD to VHS (or even Bluray to VHS). I was hoping to to simplify things and not have to deal with all of the hardware/software of a HTPC and have an "all-in-one" simple solution for both 2D and 3D, but it seems that solution just doesn't exist.
ive used xbmc, while the jukebox was nice, the buggy player leaves a lot to desire, i had plenty of movies in xbmc that was total mess, the x3 jukebox is perfectly fine


One thing I will say is I love the 3D on this thing. Much smoother and simpler than my HTPC solution (nVidia 3DVision/TMT). So I'm actually thinking about just going back to my HTPC w/XBMC for all 2D and just using the Mede8er for the one time a month I might view 3D.
I really wanted to like this little thing, but I guess it's just not for me.
good luck with xbmc, just let me no how you play some movies in xbmc like hugo cabret 2d that 7 minutes is missing in final, or the subtitles dissapear in certain movies along with other stuff.

my fanless power supply (PSU Seasonic X 400 FL ) was the price of one MED600x3D

thanks for sharing
Edited by canton160 - 12/22/12 at 6:10am
post #147 of 618
I agree, a htpc with comparable playback and features, will kill the pocketbook, and still need maint. Even openelec needed decent hardware but less maint.
If it had 3d I may have stayed with openelec, it is the best way for xbmc to me. Way less hassle. But I really like the mede8er, if they had a jukebox like xbmc wow I would really love it. It is kind of a pain but once you get used to it not to bad. Yadis is far easier, once they use HTML in the folders I am switching to that. Mede8er is the only company I will go to for streamers, they are always working to make them better, with responses on issues very fast. Popcorn hour?.. Not so much, micca? Been down that road as well. Netgear, Wd, etc. nothing has this level of functionality that works for the most part.
Now I do have a issue if anyone can help. I haves posted on the other forum but I cannot be the only one with this problem.
These are mostly handbrake with the atv 3 preset, but I changed to fixed fps 23.976 still not working.
Got my med 1000x3d yesterday, Love what has been done since the launch, a lot of issues fixed. Much better NSF performance, even smb seems better. The stutters I used to have before are gone.mi do have issues with mp4 files, I thought it was a variable frame rate issue, but I just did a new encode at fixed 23.976 and still have the issue? If I start the video file I have 5.1 Dolby digital playing and displayed on info in the player, but no video? If I change to the 2 channel audio the video comes on without a issue? I have 100 or more handbrake files for my Apple TV that I would like to play. Any ideas? I love this player, and am in for good this time. Hopefully I can figure out this issue, thanks for any help!
post #148 of 618
The fact is anyone coming from an HTPC will be let down somewhat at first (I know I was very hesitant to make the switch at the time). I definitely miss the fliexibility and wow factor of HTPCs. However, the main reason I made the switch away from HTPCs is reliability, especially since my wife uses as much as me for our boys. I no longer get those "angry wife" calls at work since making the switch biggrin.gif
post #149 of 618
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

The fact is anyone coming from an HTPC will be let down somewhat at first (I know I was very hesitant to make the switch at the time). I definitely miss the fliexibility and wow factor of HTPCs. However, the main reason I made the switch away from HTPCs is reliability, especially since my wife uses as much as me for our boys. I no longer get those "angry wife" calls at work since making the switch biggrin.gif

See, I'm surprised you still don't get the angry wife calls just from that remote problem alone. Within 30 seconds of using it my wife was pretty much fed up with it from the "down" and "up" buttons going down or up two lines instead of one.

As I said, I'll keep the Mede8er...at least for 3D. Just not sure I'm ready to make it my dedicated media streamer. But I'll continue to give it a chance and keep up to date on this thread to see if some of these issues get resolved.
post #150 of 618
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Originally Posted by ScoHo View Post

See, I'm surprised you still don't get the angry wife calls just from that remote problem alone. Within 30 seconds of using it my wife was pretty much fed up with it from the "down" and "up" buttons going down or up two lines instead of one.
As I said, I'll keep the Mede8er...at least for 3D. Just not sure I'm ready to make it my dedicated media streamer. But I'll continue to give it a chance and keep up to date on this thread to see if some of these issues get resolved.

Well, first I don't consider the remote problems to be angry wife calling worthy (the angry calls were "HTPC did not come out of standby", HTPC Froze, Video is playing not at full screen, video is playing in background, etc..., all what I would consider Angry worthy). The remote issues is just an inconvenience.

Now that being said, my wife doesn't really use the Mede8er. The two rooms which are the main rooms for viewing I have 2 Dunes (full/proper jukebox is mandatory for family, etc...). In our playroom and spare room is where I have the Mede8ers (mostly used by me, this is where I lock myself in to watch shows/movies when I can't get alone time smile.gif )
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