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post #481 of 840
Does the 600 or 1000 launch right into the Jukebox or do you have to navigate a few menus first?
post #482 of 840
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

The only reason keeping from buying a Mede8er is their jukebox lack of TV Show support and editing with the same program. Other than that is a good media player.


So you are saying it just doesn't understand how to pull data or display it for TV series that are ripped? So you end up clicking on words in a folder to make those play instead of having cover art, etc?


So core functionality, like error free Blu ray / MKV rip playing, quality FLAC playback (just sending digitally to preamp), subtitles, 3d playback, etc... is on par or better than the competitors. No glaring weakness that some competitor has "fixed"? For instance, I think I understand that the 600 does not (yet) support forced subtitles. Are there competitors that DO support them?

Thanks for the help! I am probably going to just bite the bullet and order.... I am coming from a world of either having to use an HTPC for flexibility or an Oppo 93 for hassle free flawless Blu Ray rip playback (but with a very boring interface).. so I am hoping this device can somewhat give me the best of both worlds. HTPC flexibility without the hassles.

The upcoming IPAD jukebox app will be a huge selling point for me.
post #483 of 840
Thread Starter 
i took some pictures, and some instructions, on how to use the new functionality of aggregate jukebox in mede8er firmware version 15 march v2.0.0

its so easy to use, give it a try.

AGGREGATE JUKEBOX in with Firmware 15 MARCH V2.0.0
post #484 of 840
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

Does the 600 or 1000 launch right into the Jukebox or do you have to navigate a few menus first?

there a option to start up from favorites, it requires one more click to full jukebox
post #485 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

So you are saying it just doesn't understand how to pull data or display it for TV series that are ripped? So you end up clicking on words in a folder to make those play instead of having cover art, etc?


So core functionality, like error free Blu ray / MKV rip playing, quality FLAC playback (just sending digitally to preamp), subtitles, 3d playback, etc... is on par or better than the competitors. No glaring weakness that some competitor has "fixed"? For instance, I think I understand that the 600 does not (yet) support forced subtitles. Are there competitors that DO support them?

Thanks for the help! I am probably going to just bite the bullet and order.... I am coming from a world of either having to use an HTPC for flexibility or an Oppo 93 for hassle free flawless Blu Ray rip playback (but with a very boring interface).. so I am hoping this device can somewhat give me the best of both worlds. HTPC flexibility without the hassles.

The upcoming IPAD jukebox app will be a huge selling point for me.

It has a jukebox program for movies Y2M and a separate program for TV Shows. I come from using Zappiti, which can do both and on the fly editing as well. So the Mede8er jukeboxes aren't acceptable to me.

There isn't one media player out there that can fully recognize forced subs. There are thing that you can do to make it possible though.

Mede8er has iPad app. I am not sure how good it is though. Damian did a review for this player though. I would suggest to read it.
post #486 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

So you are saying it just doesn't understand how to pull data or display it for TV series that are ripped? So you end up clicking on words in a folder to make those play instead of having cover art, etc?

So core functionality, like error free Blu ray / MKV rip playing, quality FLAC playback (just sending digitally to preamp), subtitles, 3d playback, etc... is on par or better than the competitors. No glaring weakness that some competitor has "fixed"? For instance, I think I understand that the 600 does not (yet) support forced subtitles. Are there competitors that DO support them?

Thanks for the help! I am probably going to just bite the bullet and order.... I am coming from a world of either having to use an HTPC for flexibility or an Oppo 93 for hassle free flawless Blu Ray rip playback (but with a very boring interface).. so I am hoping this device can somewhat give me the best of both worlds. HTPC flexibility without the hassles.

The upcoming IPAD jukebox app will be a huge selling point for me.

You can manually add icons/images and independent backgrounds for each folder.

I was using an Oppo 95 but the 1000X3D navigates and starts playing faster. Also nicer user definable user interface and better flac juke box. The 1000 also plays ISOs and all hi res audio formats.

I bought a 3Tb hard disc which makes it a portable self contained player I can move to my 2nd system in family room, or to my desktop PC to copy files or test UI changes using my HDMI/DVI computer screen.

I'm not using any network/server as I don't watch anything unless its via a 5.1 sound system and big TV or projector. Nothing to be gained for me using a server which must be left turned on and consumes energy 24/7. And you still need to have double storage as a backup anyway.

Seems the developers are active in improving and fixing firmware which is very good.
post #487 of 840
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Originally Posted by HomerJau View Post

You can manually add icons/images and independent backgrounds for each folder.

I was using an Oppo 95 but the 1000X3D navigates and starts playing faster. Also nicer user definable user interface and better flac juke box. The 1000 also plays ISOs and all hi res audio formats.

I bought a 3Tb hard disc which makes it a portable self contained player I can move to my 2nd system in family room, or to my desktop PC to copy files or test UI changes using my HDMI/DVI computer screen.

I'm not using any network/server as I don't watch anything unless its via a 5.1 sound system and big TV or projector. Nothing to be gained for me using a server which must be left turned on and consumes energy 24/7. And you still need to have double storage as a backup anyway.

Seems the developers are active in improving and fixing firmware which is very good.

You don't need to buy double storage for back up. I built my own UnRaid server and uses one drive for parity. I use my other drives for storage. I turn it on when I need it. Only takes about 40 seconds to boot up. My electric bill hasn't really changed either.
post #488 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Is there a feature breakdown / comparison of this player to the Dune or PorcornHour somewhere? I am about to pull the trigger on this one but just want to be sure. I certainly do like the lightning fast firmware updates and the communication of Mede8er.

Anything it lacks that others have? If so, is that something that can be fixed with firmware?

Yes, I had PCH for years and was VERY disappointed on how they dropped support for the C-200 when in my opinion it was never complete. I had consistent issues with this device (my A110 seemed solid in comparison) and then a release of firmware (usually buggier than previous) would happen every 6+ months. I have never looked back and will never purchase a device from the PCH guys again. Primarily b/c of the lack of support, they sell devices on their site and then do not support it via software, end of life should mean they no longer sell the device and then I may understand them dropping or slowing down with software releases, but selling a device that isn't even complete and not supporting it anymore shows how they truly care for the customer and product. They seem to worry more about releasing new hardware and making all the money they can from that and dropping the old platforms that still have good hardware, just bad software.

So after my purchase of the Mede8er device, I have had constant updates (each better than previous with usually new features in each) and almost instant response (I never received from the PCH crew.) For the price, I don't feel you can beat them and would go for it..

BTW: The ONLY thing I do not like about my Mede8er is the lack of FTP. This in my opinion is VERY frustrating when transferring large files. Not having resume option in case of issues during transfer that FTP offers in itself is a reason I think they should have it and it obviously has the ability for it, but it is to my understanding paranoia plays a big part in this. Either way, if that keeps this device being supported and updated, I can deal without FTP.
post #489 of 840
So in essence, if I want 3d playback, the Mede8er is the way to go. Ditto for music playback where a jukebox on an ipad is required .. (just a "coming" feature I understand as we wait for third parties to develop).

However, no current device that plays 3d works correctly with forced subs or seamless branching, correct? So if I want a "buy it and it just works" for all Blu Ray isos, I should get an earlier Dune release, like the Smart series, but understand that there will be no 3d Blu Ray playback, correct?

Is the seamless branching and forced subs issues something that is truly EXPECTED to be fixed?
post #490 of 840
It has been mentioned, but bears repeating, that an Oppo BDP-93 with older firmware will play Blu ray ISO, and 3D Blu ray ISO flawlessly from an attached hard drive either via usb or esata This means no streaming from a NAS, nor from a server, it must be from an ATTACHED hard drive only. Once again, the player must have a specific firmware and that will also mean you will have a few problems with newer retail discs as the software on the oppo is older and some newer releases will not play properly (or at all). And yes, they are NOT cheap. But if you can live with the limitations and have 14TB and growing of 3D Blu ray ISO (like I do), there is currently NO PLAYER that can match the quality and ease of the Oppo.
post #491 of 840
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

It has been mentioned, but bears repeating, that an Oppo BDP-93 with older firmware will play Blu ray ISO, and 3D Blu ray ISO flawlessly from an attached hard drive either via usb or esata This means no streaming from a NAS, nor from a server, it must be from an ATTACHED hard drive only. Once again, the player must have a specific firmware and that will also mean you will have a few problems with newer retail discs as the software on the oppo is older and some newer releases will not play properly (or at all). And yes, they are NOT cheap. But if you can live with the limitations and have 14TB and growing of 3D Blu ray ISO (like I do), there is currently NO PLAYER that can match the quality and ease of the Oppo.

Yeah... that's what I use now as well.... but the wife wants a jukebox view of the movies... so that's why I am looking at media devices. ... and I also want a music jukebox to play FLAC files that I can select via an ipad interface.
post #492 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

So you are saying it just doesn't understand how to pull data or display it for TV series that are ripped? So you end up clicking on words in a folder to make those play instead of having cover art, etc?


So core functionality, like error free Blu ray / MKV rip playing, quality FLAC playback (just sending digitally to preamp), subtitles, 3d playback, etc... is on par or better than the competitors. No glaring weakness that some competitor has "fixed"? For instance, I think I understand that the 600 does not (yet) support forced subtitles. Are there competitors that DO support them?

Thanks for the help! I am probably going to just bite the bullet and order.... I am coming from a world of either having to use an HTPC for flexibility or an Oppo 93 for hassle free flawless Blu Ray rip playback (but with a very boring interface).. so I am hoping this device can somewhat give me the best of both worlds. HTPC flexibility without the hassles.

The upcoming IPAD jukebox app will be a huge selling point for me.

If you are coming from the OPPO you will be disappointed in just about every other player for quality and ease of use. I will be I have tried nearly more streamers than almost anyone here (except maybe dbone) and they all have various quirks and quibbles. just my 2 cents... And yes, the Oppo interface is a huge yawn but what it does, it does with no equal..
post #493 of 840
Yeah - lol ... that is what I am worried about.... I actually have an unused Oppo 93 updated to the last firmware before ISO removal in a box in case mine dies! smile.gif I was going to compare whatever I get to see if the video is negatively affected. Guess you say it is?

Maybe I will just stick to getting one of these streamers for the music capability. They seem to still be cheaper than systems like Sonos, which still dont give me what I want in regards to connecting USB music, etc. Sonos does have a nice app, though!
post #494 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Yeah - lol ... that is what I am worried about.... I actually have an unused Oppo 93 updated to the last firmware before ISO removal in a box in case mine dies! smile.gif I was going to compare whatever I get to see if the video is negatively affected. Guess you say it is?

Maybe I will just stick to getting one of these streamers for the music capability. They seem to still be cheaper than systems like Sonos, which still dont give me what I want in regards to connecting USB music, etc. Sonos does have a nice app, though!

I thought I was the only sicko with a spare oppo in the box... :-) Currently got you beat though as I also have a spare 95..but am selling that one shortly..
:-)
post #495 of 840
Lol - nice!
post #496 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

So in essence, if I want 3d playback, the Mede8er is the way to go. Ditto for music playback where a jukebox on an ipad is required .. (just a "coming" feature I understand as we wait for third parties to develop).

However, no current device that plays 3d works correctly with forced subs or seamless branching, correct? So if I want a "buy it and it just works" for all Blu Ray isos, I should get an earlier Dune release, like the Smart series, but understand that there will be no 3d Blu Ray playback, correct?

Is the seamless branching and forced subs issues something that is truly EXPECTED to be fixed?

I've tried everything possible players, media center software etc...- the best playback experience I've found for 3D and Bluray to get forced subs and seamless branching to work is TMT with Mediabrowser. Works GREAT. I get full 3D from the ISO, forced subs work like they should, and our Pixar discs play properly.

I'm really looking forward to MB3 now.
post #497 of 840
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

I've tried everything possible players, media center software etc...- the best playback experience I've found for 3D and Bluray to get forced subs and seamless branching to work is TMT with Mediabrowser. Works GREAT. I get full 3D from the ISO, forced subs work like they should, and our Pixar discs play properly.

I'm really looking forward to MB3 now.

To each his own...That involves a lot of extra work. For me my Oppo (then my Dune) are my go to players. Never an issue with 3D or seamless branching playback on the Oppo. Passes all HD audio formats as well. (a must for me)The biggest hurdle is that it has to be from attached hard drive. for some that is a deal breaker...
Now funny story, I bought your old MEDE*er player awhile ago and still have not found a place for it! And I see you are selling another one! :-)
post #498 of 840
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

To each his own...That involves a lot of extra work. For me my Oppo (then my Dune) are my go to players. Never an issue with 3D or seamless branching playback on the Oppo. Passes all HD audio formats as well. (a must for me)The biggest hurdle is that it has to be from attached hard drive. for some that is a deal breaker...
Now funny story, I bought your old MEDE*er player awhile ago and still have not found a place for it! And I see you are selling another one! :-)

Once windows was installed it took a few minutes to install MB, VirtualDrive, and TMT, then about 5 minutes to configure it. wink.gif I really like the mediabrowser configurator.

I keep hoping that there will be a plug and point player that has:
  • Forced subs in at least MKV format support
  • A proper jukebox with TV series and Boxset support
  • 3D support
  • HD audio codec support
  • A decent performing jukebox that can handle at least 1000 individual movie titles
  • Eye candy - no WAF without it

The mede8er 600/1000 come so close. The UI performance is excellent compared to at least the a400, and the playback performance is much better. It's the poor jukebox and the lack of forced sub detection that kills the deal. I'd like to try out the Dune or Zappiti players, but the only company that sells them in the US uses FedEx ground, the amount of grief FedEx ground has caused me is another thread entirely.

So I have the 600, maybe someone will buy it, maybe not. Maybe mede8er will find a way to deliver a better jukebox and forced sub support beforehand too tongue.gif Heck - if that happens I'll buy at least one more.
post #499 of 840
Where is the best site to buy this player? I am in the USA. Thanks.
post #500 of 840
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Originally Posted by Vancomycin View Post

Where is the best site to buy this player? I am in the USA. Thanks.

Probably the only place available in the USA. If you were to go to the Mede8er website it will tell you were to look.

http://www.mediaconceptusa.com/mede8er.html
post #501 of 840
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

Once windows was installed it took a few minutes to install MB, VirtualDrive, and TMT, then about 5 minutes to configure it. wink.gif I really like the mediabrowser configurator.

I keep hoping that there will be a plug and point player that has:
  • Forced subs in at least MKV format support
  • A proper jukebox with TV series and Boxset support
  • 3D support
  • HD audio codec support
  • A decent performing jukebox that can handle at least 1000 individual movie titles
  • Eye candy - no WAF without it

The mede8er 600/1000 come so close. The UI performance is excellent compared to at least the a400, and the playback performance is much better. It's the poor jukebox and the lack of forced sub detection that kills the deal. I'd like to try out the Dune or Zappiti players, but the only company that sells them in the US uses FedEx ground, the amount of grief FedEx ground has caused me is another thread entirely.

So I have the 600, maybe someone will buy it, maybe not. Maybe mede8er will find a way to deliver a better jukebox and forced sub support beforehand too tongue.gif Heck - if that happens I'll buy at least one more.


Yeah I agree the HTPC and MediaBrowser / TMT can be nice. I used this system for a couple of years - still do in the family room, since I like WMC for ClearQam tuning of local channels... just makes it easy to also have a movie jukebox for kids shows on the same computer with all their crap...

BUT... in the theater... the HTPC always leaves a nagging suspicion in my mind that black levels, or gamma, or colors, or audio, or 24hz playback, or something is getting screwed up in the myriad of settings that interact with each other, even when it seems to be working. I just cant get around the simplicity of KNOWING its accurate with the Oppo (realizing this isnt a thread about the Oppo smile.gif) . I wish I could!!
post #502 of 840
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

I've tried everything possible players, media center software etc...- the best playback experience I've found for 3D and Bluray to get forced subs and seamless branching to work is TMT with Mediabrowser. Works GREAT. I get full 3D from the ISO, forced subs work like they should, and our Pixar discs play properly.

I'm really looking forward to MB3 now.

No issues with cinavia being inside TMT? or are you running an old version
post #503 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

BUT... in the theater... the HTPC always leaves a nagging suspicion in my mind that black levels, or gamma, or colors, or audio, or 24hz playback, or something is getting screwed up in the myriad of settings that interact with each other, even when it seems to be working. I just cant get around the simplicity of KNOWING its accurate with the Oppo (realizing this isnt a thread about the Oppo smile.gif) . I wish I could!!

I know the feeling.... that's why I keep looking for a Jukebox player that has the right fit for my needs.
post #504 of 840
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Originally Posted by halfelite View Post

No issues with cinavia being inside TMT? or are you running an old version

Anydvd can now block a few of the software players from detecting Cinavia.
post #505 of 840
Thread Starter 
new firmware 20 and 22 march

Install X3D_Series_V2BETA_22March2013
Install using the Emergency Procedure


Changelog V2.0.0 - 22March 2013
1. Dev: net api, use async mode to start audio playback to avoid crashing...
2. Dev: net api, play command added support for multiple tags musicdir and moviedir.
3. Dev: adjust the position of options in MENU for "Add to Jukebox+" and "Add to Favorites".
3. Dev: will keep in movie jukebox view when discreet off.
4. Dev: dutch strings updated.
5. Dev: added option "Empty" to clear the content of Jukebox+.

Changelog V2.0.0 - 20March 2013
1. Fixed - crash on id3tag of mp3 file.
2. Fixed - Lock movie in JukeBox Plus
3. Fixed - Play Music Folder functionality
4. Fixed - Black Bar on Flickr screensaver.
5. Fixed - FAT 32 USB drive/partition names are shown with a ÿ-character in front of the drive name.
6. Fixed - in X3_GUI.xml does not change the text colour of Favourites.
7. Fixed - Play music folder in net api crash.
8. Dev - JukeBox Plus not added to NET API
9. Dev - 'Add to JukeBox' will now copy .t and .folder.locked files to JukeBox Plus folder.
10. Dev - Added string for ADD_TO_MUSIC_JUKEBOX.
11. Dev - when doing a discreet off command X3D will firstly return to Home Screen and then action the command.
12. Dev - net api, when play single music file, will try to list all the music files inside the folder.
13. Dev - net api, enabled normal share in favorites.
14. Dev - net api, added support for time jump in movie playback.
15. Dev - net api, added new param for command status: movietime, musictime, musicinfo, musiclist.
post #506 of 840
I am new to the forum and looking for advice please.I have recently purchased the med600x3d.
I wish to play a 3d movie that was ripped from 2 separate discs.If I use makemkv to make mvc mkvs from their iso's discs can I play both back seamlessly or do I have to join them with mkvmerge.If i do that will I lose quality?
Edited by Voodooguru - 3/23/13 at 9:00pm
post #507 of 840
Thread Starter 
new firmware version

Changelog V2.0.0 - 26March 2013
1. Fixed - net api, rc menu is not working correctly in favorites/ jukebox.
2. Fixed - BDMV folder would not be added to JukeBox +.
3. Fixed - ext subtitle when playing filelink of BDMV folder.
4. Dev - added setup option "Multiple Video Play".
5. Dev - separated the settings for "Show Movie Info" in FileManager and MovieJukebox.
6. Dev: added OSD language ENGLISH(US).
7. Dev: improved the subtitle outline display.
8. Dev: net api, added a thumb node in music jukebox json file for each folder.

http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,10949.0.html
post #508 of 840
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Originally Posted by Voodooguru View Post

I am new to the forum and looking for advice please.I have recently purchased the med600x3d.
I wish to play a 3d movie that was ripped from 2 separate discs.If I use makemkv to make mvc mkvs from their iso's discs can I play both back seamlessly or do I have to join them with mkvmerge.If i do that will I lose quality?

No problem merging both files together. I'm doing that for Hobbits 3D that split into 2 disc.
post #509 of 840
Finally got around to updating to v2 last night. Immediately turned on the 23.976 fps setting and watched Skyfall stutter-free. Even on my HTPC, I would always get some kind of sporadic stutter on most video files. It actually makes me wonder if most people don't even notice the stutter like I do because I was always surprised there weren't more complaints about it. I'm very optimistic that Mede8er has finally solved the problem (not sure why it was so difficult).

Haven't messed with the jukebox stuff yet. As an XBMC user I'm afraid to because I know I'll hate it.

Didn't like how it reset my settings every time I updated the firmware. First when I installed the bootloader (which seemed to also update to v2), and then again when I updated to the latest Beta from 3/26. Is that something I will have to deal with every time I update?
post #510 of 840
What do you guys do to get forced subtitles to play on your Mede8er? I just ripped The Hobbit via MakeMKV. When MakeMKV pulls up the contents of the disc, it shows English Subtitles, with a sub-line underneath it that says "Forced Only". So I checked only that sub-line. After it finished ripping, when I pull it up in MKVMerge, it doesn't show any subtitles. Then I tried ripping again, and this time I checked both English subtitle main line and the "Forced Only" sub-line. After that ripped, when I pull it up in MKVMerge I only see one subtitle.
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