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post #691 of 840
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I take it one would not need a large sd card for this?

The smallest card out there should work just fine.

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I wonder where that stores its info also?

Files are stored in the directory where the movie is stored

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Also I just read on an amazon review that divx was removed, please tell me this is not true!

This is true, but there is software available that will convert your divx files into a playable format.
post #692 of 840
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

The smallest card out there should work just fine.
Files are stored in the directory where the movie is stored
This is true, but there is software available that will convert your divx files into a playable format.

Thank You!!

luckily I don't have many, but it does suck.

But on a great note, I received it yesterday and tested 3d .mkv sbs movies on both my panny plasma and sony led tv

On a scale of 1%-100%, 1% being no crosstalk, and 100% being lots of crosstalk.

Thru the sony 46nx810 (The movies going thru the TV's hardware to decode them) (retailed for over $2000) 240hz refresh was a huge disappointment at I would say 50%-60% crosstalk. Now a Blu-ray Disc 3D movie, ps3 to the Sony was at 15%-25%, just throwing this out there, as I found this strange, tho most likely being SONY destroying the playback of SBS files on purpose.

Thru the 600x3d to the sony (The movies going thru the 600x3d hardware to decode them), 3D was 30% crosstalk with lots of adjustments played with on both the sony and 600. What a huge disappointment, and conclusion for me that led/lcd just can not cut it, or SONY SUCKS AT 3D!! I personally think its the latter.

Now the Panasonic 55ut50 plasma (The movies going thru the TV's hardware to decode them), 3D movies played thru the panny plasma was I thought at a great 10%-20% crosstalk, almost as good as the imax that I go to quite often. Now a Blu-ray Disc 3D movie, ps3 to the panny was at 10%-20% also.

Now before I say my results for the panny, let me tell you all about my wife, she got headaches within minutes watching 3D on either TV and therefore would not watch 3D movies with me, unless at imax that she never got the headaches.

Thru the 600xd to the panny plasma (The movies going thru the 600x3d hardware to decode them), now I would say 3D is 1% crosstalk(as good as the best possible), as good as imax!!!!!!!!!!!! AND my wife watched a 3D movie with me last night with no headaches !!!!!smile.gifbiggrin.gif

These boxes are worth their cost and all I can say is WOW WOW WOW!!!!!!!!

Now this is all my opinion, no test equipment used, just my eyes and my OCD on 3D.

Thank You all for reading!!
Edited by dfran1 - 8/22/13 at 6:03pm
post #693 of 840


ChangeLog V3.0.0 - 23 Aug2013
1. new - Movie Scraper App
2. new - TV Series Scraper App
3, new - Built in Subtitle Downloader
4. new - IP Stream App
5. new - WOL (Wake on LAN)
6. new - HTML5 Browser
7. Fixed - Arabic srt Subtitles
8. Fixed - MP3 UFT8 embedded text
9. Fixed . Fixed IP of Wireless not working
9. Dev - Nav Up / Down moves srt subtiles up/down
10. Dev - Added support for external subtitle language naming
11. Dev: added grey color for subtitle
11. General bug fixes

Read more http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,12035.msg78744.html#msg78744

Mede8er1
post #694 of 840
What does the subtitle downloaded do? Anything to help it play forced subs?
post #695 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

What does the subtitle downloaded do? Anything to help it play forced subs?

It downloads .srt subs from opensubtitle.org, it doesn't do anything for forced subs. However, if you have the option to play external subs only, then you can download subs that match what the forced subs would be and play those.
post #696 of 840
So I updated to V 3.0 today and had ZERO luck installing the Movie Scraper App.
Can the app scrap blu ray ISO files?

When I get the pop-up screen to install the app I press yes but then I get the "busy" spinning circle that spins for hours. When I reboot and try I again to install the app I don't get installation pop up window. Only way to see the installation pop-up window again is to reinstall the Firmware again.

My movie folder structure seems to be correct... example listed below.

Movies \ Avatar (2009) \ Avatar (2009).iso

I tried using the step by step up guide on Mede8er forum without any luck.

Did any of you guys had luck installing and running the app? If yes, can you post step by step instructions.

Thanks in advance!
post #697 of 840
It worked for me and there was no special instructions, after agreeing to the terms it proceeded to scraping the folders. ISO really shouldn't matter, it relies on the folder name first and then the filename...not even sure it cares about extensions. Have you tried any of the internet apps to verify your internet connection through the Med is working? Do you have write permissions enabled on your share?
post #698 of 840
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Originally Posted by KlDesigns View Post

When I reboot and try I again to install the app I don't get installation pop up window. Only way to see the installation pop-up window again is to reinstall the Firmware again.

You don't need to reinstall firmware.

Go to Setup menu and select "restore default". After that, you must activate "jukebox view" and "auto view" again (+ WiFi or lan to have an internet connection). Go back to your favorites and scan the folder. .The agreement screen to install the TMDB app will be there again. After app installation, you have to scan the folder a second time and it will scrape your movies.
Edited by inikad - 8/26/13 at 11:16pm
post #699 of 840
Thanks all. I did get it to work. Have no idea why it took 30 minutes to scrape 1 movie. When I added a second film to the folder in only took 10 seconds.

I'm only able to see English backdrop wallpapers for my movies. How do I change settings to see No Language backdrops for the movies?
Edited by KlDesigns - 8/27/13 at 6:03am
post #700 of 840
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Originally Posted by KlDesigns View Post

So I updated to V 3.0 today and had ZERO luck installing the Movie Scraper App.
Can the app scrap blu ray ISO files?

When I get the pop-up screen to install the app I press yes but then I get the "busy" spinning circle that spins for hours. When I reboot and try I again to install the app I don't get installation pop up window. Only way to see the installation pop-up window again is to reinstall the Firmware again.

My movie folder structure seems to be correct... example listed below.

Movies \ Avatar (2009) \ Avatar (2009).iso

I tried using the step by step up guide on Mede8er forum without any luck.

Did any of you guys had luck installing and running the app? If yes, can you post step by step instructions.

Thanks in advance!

Does the root folder have to be named "Movies" for this to work? I never got the XML search working with My Movies building the XML file, so maybe that is the issue for me?

Thanks.

Mark
post #701 of 840
So what do most people do to get forced subs to play on this? I don't fully understand what the current workarounds, if any, are and how they are accomplished. Thanks for any help!
post #702 of 840
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

Does the root folder have to be named "Movies" for this to work? I never got the XML search working with My Movies building the XML file, so maybe that is the issue for me?

Thanks.

Mark

No, the folder with all your movies inside doesn't need to be named "movies". You can name it as you want.
post #703 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

So what do most people do to get forced subs to play on this? I don't fully understand what the current workarounds, if any, are and how they are accomplished. Thanks for any help!
I don't have one of these, yet, but from my research and planning, if you rip your own subs, mark the forced subs as the primary stream then just turn on subtitles while watching. Since the forced text should only be during certain scenes, you shouldn't see anything else until needed.
post #704 of 840
I have only been doing full rips to ISO so far, so I am just learning about MakeMKV. I have been researching how to rip properly with MakleMKV but I think I am more confused now than when i started. I popped in the Return of the Jedi Blu Ray and am presented with multiple selections that all say they are 50 chapters and 39GB, and also the English subtitles have multiple selections and all of them have a forced selection as well.

So I would choose just one of the 39GB boxes and also just one of the subtitle selections, leaving the forced box checked and not selecting the box next to the generic English subtitles?

Or is it even more complicated than that?

I found the link to what movies have forced titles and where, but I didn't really get what it meant. For Return of the Jedi, for instance, it said:

"3 forced sub tracks, 39 is the movie. Subs are really high from the bottom"

I don't know what that means... I need to select all the tracks marked forced?
post #705 of 840
You might want to check out the Blu-Ray rippingthread as they'd have more information on MakeMKV. I've been using ClownBD.
post #706 of 840
Ok great ill go through that thread, thanks! Is ClownBD generally "easier" / more intuitive? Or is it a crapshoot?
post #707 of 840
Hi all,

I think I know the answer but I have to ask, is this the best device to use for streaming 3D .iso files? I'll be streaming using 1Gb internal network with the files stored on 5TB of hard drive space inside my computer.

Thanks
Edited by squigly1 - 8/28/13 at 7:30pm
post #708 of 840
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Originally Posted by squigly1 View Post

Hi all,

I think I know the answer but I have to ask, is this the best device to use for streaming 3D .iso files? I'll be streaming using 1Gb internal network with the files stored on 5GB of hard drive space inside my computer.

Thanks

For 3D yes. 5 GB of HDD space isn't much. You can't even fit half a BD movie with that.
post #709 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Ok great ill go through that thread, thanks! Is ClownBD generally "easier" / more intuitive? Or is it a crapshoot?
I'm using it more for folder structure and mt2s files than MKVs.
post #710 of 840
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

For 3D yes. 5 GB of HDD space isn't much. You can't even fit half a BD movie with that.

Oops. Edited post to read TB.

Anything new/better on the near horizon that we know of or just get this and be happy?

Thanks
post #711 of 840
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Originally Posted by squigly1 View Post

Oops. Edited post to read TB.

Anything new/better on the near horizon that we know of or just get this and be happy?

Thanks

Nothing yet. Dune is supposed to come out with a new media player supporting XBMC, but who knows when that is going to happen.
post #712 of 840
Not happening from dune.Another failed to materialize.
See reply 426

http://www.avforums.com/forums/streamers-network-media-players/1758442-dune-hd-base-3d-part-2-a-15.html
post #713 of 840
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Originally Posted by squigly1 View Post

Hi all,

I think I know the answer but I have to ask, is this the best device to use for streaming 3D .iso files? I'll be streaming using 1Gb internal network with the files stored on 5TB of hard drive space inside my computer.

Thanks

I will be interested to hear how things go for you. This is no fault of the Mede8er, but I was unable to sucessfully stream 3DBD .ISO files from a Netgear ReadyNAS Ultra 4+ on a gigabit wired network. I experienced stuttering audio, but when I transcoded the 3DBD .ISO files to MKV MVC, the streaming worked fine. I have no problem with regular BD .ISO files.

Caveats: I installed the wired network myself in 2007, and only used Belden Cat 5e cable, so the cable is not an issue. However, maybe I screwed up the terminations, but I don't think so; I am pretty careful about that stuff. I do have a 45-foot long HDMI cable (Blue Jeans Cable Belden series, Category 1, 74.5 MHz) that may be the cause of the limitation, but I found a solution in MKV, and have moved on.

Mark
post #714 of 840
Going through that BD ripping thread, as suggested, I came across this post that is copied below. Is this still a valid / best practice method? Again, I have only been ripping to ISO for the last few years, but am interested in MKV or M2TS file for greater compatibility with seamless branching and forced subs. Basically I am looking for the ripping method that works best with the Mede8er. Any downside to the below? I assume the audio and video quality is 1:1 identical to what is on the BD source?

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Ripping workflow is such a personal and situational choice. I don't think there is a single best way. One reads what others do then picks and chooses to suit one's hardware situation. After many iterations of my ripping workflow I have settled on Clown_BD myself as a preferred tool. In my case I use DVD Fab to rip the full BD to my HDD, then use Clown_BD to extract the main title, HD audio and English subtitle track to a native BD.m2ts file. I just transfer the BD.m2ts file to my NAS for playback -- absolute minimum space. I use DVD Fab because that is what I have. I do a full disk rip because my 8+ yr old PC can do that the quickest and I prefer using Clown_BD for the rest -- DVD Fab can't do what Clown_BD does. The things I like about the Clown_BD approach:
It makes main_title selection much simpler than using main_title mode of DVD Fab.
It assembles seamless branching titles into a single BD.m2ts file and does so without the audio getting out of synch as the movie plays. That overcomes the limitations of players that don't support playback of seamless branching titles.
It extracts and creates a separate forced subtitle track from the full subtitle track and muxes it first in line. That makes it easy to enable display of forced subtitles with players that don't provide automatic support.
For titles with multiple English subtitle tracks, it is very fast and simple to just demux those sub tracks so I can quickly identify which one I want in the final rip.
It supports a batch mode for overnight unattended operation.
Why BD.m2ts? A situational necessity. It works the best (and flawlessly) with my hardware. BD.m2ts is supported by DLNA. Using DLNA I can perfectly stream the highest full bitrate titles (Startrek, Transformers, Avatar, etc.) to my player through a pair of AV200 powerline adapters. That makes it the best (only) format for me. The only thing I lose using BD.m2ts vs. a main_title BD.iso is the chapter skip points in the playlist. I've always found them to be arbitrary, anyway and prefer my players predictable 10 min skip instead.
post #715 of 840
I prefer to do ClownBD + mkvmerge. If there are forced subs you can add in, and if you want the Mede8er to display automatically though you need to set them as default (setting as forced won't work). Granted, this is only a good option if you will only ever have subs in your rips if they are forced
post #716 of 840
Ok thanks... and yeah I never want any other subs, only forced. Ok sounds like I need to read a tutorial on both ClownBD and Mkvmerge.

Is your guide linked from the BD ripping thread the best place to start?

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/wiki/index.php/Clown_BD


And thanks!!!
post #717 of 840
Most of the media players in the market don't even have gigabit Ethernet ports. It should not be required anyway as the maximum bandwidth required by blu-rays should be fine with 100mbps Ethernet.
Could it be a bad termination or cable... Yes. Could it a bad or inefficient switch... yes. The best way to find out would be to do a test on your NAS to your terminating connector using a laptop. There are freeware apps that you can use or simply drag a file from your NAS to your laptop using the same type of network protocol ie Samba (most common in NASs). Find out what is transfer speed on your MKV files (one large file will behave differently than many smaller files). Blu-rays top close to 50mbps.
IMHO the reason behind the choppiness is in the decoding process the actual unit. Some media players can't cope with the amount of data or have a buggy implementation of the decoding process. Typically these issues are corrected thru firmware updates, hence it is good to buy a unit that is well supported. It may be the case that the meede8r doesn't handle properly 3D ISOs. As for myself I haven't had any issues with 3D MKVs with exception of Avatar that has the highest bit rate I've seen; again it is not the network, more so the processing or lack of processing the large amount of data.
post #718 of 840
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Ok thanks... and yeah I never want any other subs, only forced. Ok sounds like I need to read a tutorial on both ClownBD and Mkvmerge.

Is your guide linked from the BD ripping thread the best place to start?

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/wiki/index.php/Clown_BD


And thanks!!!

You can look at this as well (the part you can skip is bdsup2sub)

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/03/31/mkv-mania-clown_bd-mkvmerge/
post #719 of 840
I've been using makemkv. No issues to report. I do agree that choosing the main title is sometimes tricky, but it has never been a problem.
post #720 of 840
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I will be interested to hear how things go for you. This is no fault of the Mede8er, but I was unable to sucessfully stream 3DBD .ISO files from a Netgear ReadyNAS Ultra 4+ on a gigabit wired network. I experienced stuttering audio, but when I transcoded the 3DBD .ISO files to MKV MVC, the streaming worked fine. I have no problem with regular BD .ISO files.

Caveats: I installed the wired network myself in 2007, and only used Belden Cat 5e cable, so the cable is not an issue. However, maybe I screwed up the terminations, but I don't think so; I am pretty careful about that stuff. I do have a 45-foot long HDMI cable (Blue Jeans Cable Belden series, Category 1, 74.5 MHz) that may be the cause of the limitation, but I found a solution in MKV, and have moved on.

Mark

I don't have a Mede8er or a 3D display to view yet. Projector on it's way. I have been streaming from my computer, via ethernet, non 3D .mkv to my Oppo via TVersity and watching on an old RPTV and using Serviio to stream to my Samsung TV. I'm now thinking that once I get 3D maybe I forego Mede8er and just create .mkv or something like .m2ts and use TVersity or Serviio to stream 3D to the Oppo and display via projector. I believe that will work but not sure and figure to try it before spending almost $300CDN on the Mede8er
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