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If you know how to use HCFR - any benefit to going to chromapure or calman?

post #1 of 12
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I have an i1pro and have HCFR that I did a calibration on a UN60ES7100. The results were good with a flat color temp, RGB graphs and good gamma. I've gotten somewhat proficient at HCFR and really don't need the guides anymore.

I wanted to buy Calman (used to have V3 when I had a i1 display 2 years ago) but in order to get support for my i1pro I have to step up to the middle calman that costs 299. Chromapure is much cheaper at 180.

I've seen threads and review sites that compare calman, hcfr, and chromapure and other than workflows and a more intuitive interface assuming you know HCFR will you get a better calibration using the other two?

The data is the same data right?
post #2 of 12
If you're going to stick with that one meter (or meters that HCFR supports), and don't need workflows and reports and are content with what you're getting from HCFR, than you don't really "need" the paid calibration software. There are other benefits, of course, such as access to their support network (as opposed to waiting for an answer on a forum), support for more meters and/or as they become available, auto-calibration, and profiled meters among other things (though the latter not needed in your case).

I think you'll find many of the users of the paid calibration software started with HCFR before moving on; in my case, I made the switch to Chromapure when the HCFR devs went on a long hiatus. I like my software to just get out of the way, and Chromapure is like that for me with its ease of use. Anyway, you won't go wrong with Chromapure/Calman if you decide to go that route.
post #3 of 12
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Thanks Greg...

I'm happy with HCFR so far, all I'm doing is calibrating a pair of TVs at home and a friends set.

I wish I could have a demo that would let me compare the calibrations from software to software and don't want to fork over a couple hundred bux to do so...

It would be nice to have updated software though.

Thanks again for the feedback...

Regards,
M
post #4 of 12

 

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Originally Posted by maliclipse View Post
It would be nice to have updated software though.
 

 Is this newer than what you have? http://www.avsforum.com/t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed

post #5 of 12
You can download CalMAN and play around with the app and see how it works.

It has a simulated meter to show you what it looks like when it's working, but you'll need to purchase the software to use it with your meter.
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I wanted to buy Calman (used to have V3 when I had a i1 display 2 years ago) but in order to get support for my i1pro I have to step up to the middle calman that costs 299. Chromapure is much cheaper at 180.

Also that comparison isn't entirely fair, the $299 price for us also includes pattern generator automation (http://www.shop.chromapure.com/ChromaPure-Plus-CPPLus.htm) and AutoCal for supported devices (http://www.shop.chromapure.com/Auto-Calibrate-Add-on-auto.htm).

Granted we don't have something between our Basic license and Control that would support the i1 Pro, but our basic package has support for everything right up to the i1 Pro (i1D2, i1D3, spyders, ect...) for $150.
post #6 of 12
I think Calman offers some sort of evaluation version of their software (though without allowing you to use a meter), but I'm not a Calman user so Im not aware of the specifics and apologize in advance if that's incorrect.

[EDIT: See Sotti's response above]

The Chromapure website contains videos/tutorials of it in action, enough to get an idea of how the software works.

Take a gander at both and decide, or if you don't have a need you can always get one later.
Edited by Greg1981 - 11/20/12 at 1:57pm
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

 Is this newer than what you have? http://www.avsforum.com/t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed

When I made my comment what I was refering too is having software that is up to date with current operating platforms like Windows 7 / 8 64 bit etc.

What I had to do to get HCFR running properly was to initially make a virtual machine in OSX using a hypervisor and installing a 32 bit version of windows xp as a virtual machine. Then for whatever reason I didn't trust it so dug up an old IBM T60 thinkpad from my garage and installed a fresh version of Windows XP to make sure there weren't any usb conversion issues between 64 bit host and 32 bit guest os's.
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

You can download CalMAN and play around with the app and see how it works.
It has a simulated meter to show you what it looks like when it's working, but you'll need to purchase the software to use it with your meter.
Also that comparison isn't entirely fair, the $299 price for us also includes pattern generator automation (http://www.shop.chromapure.com/ChromaPure-Plus-CPPLus.htm) and AutoCal for supported devices (http://www.shop.chromapure.com/Auto-Calibrate-Add-on-auto.htm).
Granted we don't have something between our Basic license and Control that would support the i1 Pro, but our basic package has support for everything right up to the i1 Pro (i1D2, i1D3, spyders, ect...) for $150.

Oh I know you can do calman or chroma eval's using their simulated meters - I understand that, what I was trying to say is that it would be nice to have a 7 day eval that would allow me to use my meter, specifically the i1pro to compare the calibration results between calman or chromapure and HCFR.

The comparison is kind of fair because the base chromapure license supports my meter and the base calman at 149 does not. I have to step up to the 299 version to get support for my meter because its not a colorometer. I'm happy using DVE or the AVS 709 disc and its a bummer I'd have to pay double to get my meter supported and features I won't use.
post #9 of 12
It's hard to make a business case for an eval license for home users.

Many people would put one good calibration on their display and call it good for a year+.
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by maliclipse View Post
When I made my comment what I was refering too is having software that is up to date with current operating platforms like Windows 7 / 8 64 bit etc.

The Mac version is awful, anyway, so you're better off.

post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

It's hard to make a business case for an eval license for home users.
Many people would put one good calibration on their display and call it good for a year+.

Calman has a rental program that they give you a meter and the software for 14 days. I'd be more than happy to pay 20-40$ for a 14 day license and use my meter.... wink.gif
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by maliclipse View Post

Calman has a rental program that they give you a meter and the software for 14 days. I'd be more than happy to pay 20-40$ for a 14 day license and use my meter.... wink.gif

Last time I checked it's $99 dollars to rent their equipment for 14 days. Unless they changed it.
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