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post #31 of 112
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Another bonus is this driver is made in the USA. The 18 HO is out of Taiwan. frown.gif

This is becoming more important to me everyday!

Hey, do these drivers come with their own mounting screws? Do all drivers come with their own mounting screws?
post #32 of 112
My HO's did not come with screws, and I'm guessing these do not either. I used SPAX #10 x 1.5" screws per others recommendation on here. They seem to work quite well.

http://www.amazon.com/Spax-4101010500406-2-Inch-Construction-1-Pound/dp/B000I651RS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354017198&sr=8-1&keywords=SPAX+%2310
post #33 of 112
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

A The 18 HO is out of Taiwan. frown.gif

Say what?? Oh man that kills my desire to upgrade to a pair of 18 HO's. I really dig that the DVC is made by Eminence in the USA. I've had good results with Eminence stuff.
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

Hey, do these drivers come with their own mounting screws?  Do all drivers come with their own mounting screws?

No, never seen sub that came w/ mounting screws. Drywall screws work in a pinch. For machine screws, I like to buying in bulk from mcmaster. Their stuff always shows up same day.
post #34 of 112
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

My HO's did not come with screws, and I'm guessing these do not either. I used SPAX #10 x 1.5" screws per others recommendation on here. They seem to work quite well.
http://www.amazon.com/Spax-4101010500406-2-Inch-Construction-1-Pound/dp/B000I651RS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354017198&sr=8-1&keywords=SPAX+%2310

Thanks man. How many come in a "one pound bag?" Enough for two dual opposed cabinets I presume? Is there enough to mount the other 4 drivers you are planning scooping up shortly?
post #35 of 112
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

Thanks man. How many come in a "one pound bag?" Enough for two dual opposed cabinets I presume? Is there enough to mount the other 4 drivers you are planning scooping up shortly?

There is a LOT of them in the one pound package. I think I have easily over half the package left after doing my 4 drivers, I can even count them when I get home on Thursday night though to be safe. biggrin.gif
post #36 of 112
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Originally Posted by nograveconcern View Post

No, never seen sub that came w/ mounting screws. Drywall screws work in a pinch. For machine screws, I like to buying in bulk from mcmaster. Their stuff always shows up same day.

LMS-U come with these screws.
post #37 of 112
I currently got 4x MFWs hooked up to an EP2500 (2 on each channel).

Can I add two more of these drivers to the EP2500? Or am I asking for too much from the amp?

If yes, how do I re-wire the connections? I guess the 4x MFWs would go to 1 channel, and the 2x DVC 15 go to the other?
post #38 of 112
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

I currently got 4x MFWs hooked up to an EP2500 (2 on each channel).

Can I add two more of these drivers to the EP2500? Or am I asking for too much from the amp?

If yes, how do I re-wire the connections? I guess the 4x MFWs would go to 1 channel, and the 2x DVC 15 go to the other?

You can hook up as many as you want as long as you keep the impedance within the amps tolerance. Just alternate series/parallel units. Im currently running six on my EP4000. You just divide wattage by number of drivers on circuit......

Some of my drivers see less than 200w but that means im pretty safe.

As far as how: Think of a pair of drivers in parallel= 2ohms=1 unit, now series 2 units(4drivers) for 4ohms load.

Divide amp wattage by 4 drivers.
post #39 of 112
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

I currently got 4x MFWs hooked up to an EP2500 (2 on each channel).
Can I add two more of these drivers to the EP2500? Or am I asking for too much from the amp?
If yes, how do I re-wire the connections? I guess the 4x MFWs would go to 1 channel, and the 2x DVC 15 go to the other?

I will send you a detailed PM elaborating on my position.
Edited by popalock - 11/27/12 at 10:22am
post #40 of 112
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

I currently got 4x MFWs hooked up to an EP2500 (2 on each channel).
Can I add two more of these drivers to the EP2500? Or am I asking for too much from the amp?
If yes, how do I re-wire the connections? I guess the 4x MFWs would go to 1 channel, and the 2x DVC 15 go to the other?

Yes. Hook three in series and then pair up the two triple sets in parallel for a 4ohm nominal load. smile.gif
post #41 of 112
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Yes. Hook three in series and then pair up the two triple sets in parallel for a 4ohm nominal load. smile.gif

The Dayton is dual 8 ohm which can be paralleled down to 4 ohm. The MFW are single 4 ohm correct?

Three 4 ohm drivers wired in series will make a 12 ohm load per set. Paralleling each set would make a 6 ohm load. Though not optimal, this is the best he could hope for if he is looking to implement two of these Dayton drivers.

However, he would lose amp efficiency would pretty much negate any potential gain from adding the additional drivers. Scott, how about a sim to confirm… =) lol…
post #42 of 112
That's their 'nominal' ohm rating though I know from many times looking at their T/S numbers that their Re is closer to 3ohm so you're looking at end result of near 4ohm for all six loaded on an ep2500. wink.gif However at 4ohm bridged the ep2500/4000 will only give you ~1,600w or so. Maybe more. You're not going to have a lot of power for all six drivers with this amp. You'll want/need something more powerful if that's what you're going for.

I could sim it but I don't need to. You're looking at about an extra 3dB of output potential with two more like drivers. Easy.
post #43 of 112
So get this guys...

Sale ends on 3 Dec. Price is going to jump up to $139.95.

I asked PE how many they had in stock and they told me that they, "can't divulge that information."

But they did say that they can let me know if they can fulfill my order. I told them I wanted 50 of them and they said they can accomodate. So they still have plenty in stock, but expect a 40% price hike on Monday!

No, I'm not buying 50, just inquired to see if they had a decent amount in stock.
post #44 of 112
lol...call back and tell them you want 500.

that should give us a better idea how much they have in stock.
post #45 of 112
Anyone know what size hurricane nuts to use for this driver. I've always wanted to try the fancy ones that was highly recommend mentioned on another thread:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=081-1080

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=081-1082

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=081-1084
post #46 of 112
I used 8/32
post #47 of 112
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

So get this guys...
Sale ends on 3 Dec. Price is going to jump up to $139.95.
I asked PE how many they had in stock and they told me that they, "can't divulge that information."
But they did say that they can let me know if they can fulfill my order. I told them I wanted 50 of them and they said they can accomodate. So they still have plenty in stock, but expect a 40% price hike on Monday!
No, I'm not buying 50, just inquired to see if they had a decent amount in stock.


Keep adding them to your cart until it says insufficient stock, that will be how many they have. Last time I checked they still had >110 left
post #48 of 112
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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

Keep adding them to your cart until it says insufficient stock, that will be how many they have. Last time I checked they still had >110 left
That's no good. That's barely enough to cover 4 builds from people in this forum.
post #49 of 112
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Originally Posted by genesplitter View Post

Anyone know what size hurricane nuts to use for this driver. I've always wanted to try the fancy ones that was highly recommend mentioned on another thread:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=081-1080
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=081-1082
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=081-1084

1/4 is the biggest that will fit. Use #10 or 1/4. #8 is for little speakers. wink.gif
post #50 of 112
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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

Keep adding them to your cart until it says insufficient stock, that will be how many they have. Last time I checked they still had >110 left

Well played...
post #51 of 112
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

So get this guys...
Sale ends on 3 Dec. Price is going to jump up to $139.95.
I asked PE how many they had in stock and they told me that they, "can't divulge that information."
But they did say that they can let me know if they can fulfill my order. I told them I wanted 50 of them and they said they can accomodate. So they still have plenty in stock, but expect a 40% price hike on Monday!
No, I'm not buying 50, just inquired to see if they had a decent amount in stock.

Thanks for posting this, I ordered 4. Let the fun begin!
post #52 of 112
Just a warning, make sure to test you drivers.

I could not pass this deal up and ordered a pair. They got here today and I pulled them out to have a look. The foam gasket on the front of one of woofers had come loose in a couple spots, due to shipping I'm sure. That was an easy fix.

I started doing some free air testing to check for noise and such. First thing I noticed is that the tinsel leads seem to slap the back of the cone before reaching xmax. I pushed those off to the sides and down some which fixed that problem. Anyway I turn it up a little more (have it set on a 15hz sinewave) and I start to hear a soft clanking noise, hmm. I know I can't be at the mechanical limits yet, the cone only looks to be doing at most 1" peak to peak. If I turn it up the clanking gets louder. I switch over to the other driver and can push it much harder up closer to 2" peak to peak without any bad noises at all. I know something is wrong with the driver, I play around with it a little more and finally found the problem:



Looks like about 1/3 of it has cracked and come loose. Nice to find on a brand spanking new driver rolleyes.gif

So who's got an idea on what to use to glue that back down? I am thinking JB Weld but am open to other suggestions.
post #53 of 112
Thread Starter 
p.e. should replace it without question.
post #54 of 112
I know but I'm cheap and don't want to pay the shipping back biggrin.gif
post #55 of 112
Which part of the speaker is that exactly? I ordered one as well and I hope that doesn't happen to mine as it was $105 for shipping already...eek.gif
post #56 of 112
Basically the spider sits up on a plastic ring which gives it more clearance. It is that ring which has pulled away on one side.




I am going to try gluing mine back on and will post the results.
post #57 of 112
A couple of my MFW-15 woofers did that and Danny recommended that I use a 2 part epoxy. I did that and let it cure and never had an issue again. I tested all of them free air for like two days and all was fine.
post #58 of 112
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Originally Posted by louisdamani View Post

A couple of my MFW-15 woofers did that and Danny recommended that I use a 2 part epoxy. I did that and let it cure and never had an issue again. I tested all of them free air for like two days and all was fine.

I did the same with some of the MFW drivers and the epoxy works just fine.
post #59 of 112
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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

I switch over to the other driver and can push it much harder up closer to 2" peak to peak without any bad noises at all.

Are you using a two channel amplifier? If so, one important consideration is to test both subs on the same channel. So if one sub clearly performs better than the other, just make sure you try the other sub that is giving you problems on the same channel of amplification.

I say this speaking from experience because my dumb a$$ started a thread pretty much smack talking a sub manufacturer only to find out 1 one of my amp channels was the problem!

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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

I know something is wrong with the driver, I play around with it a little more and finally found the problem:
Looks like about 1/3 of it has cracked and come loose. Nice to find on a brand spanking new driver rolleyes.gif
So who's got an idea on what to use to glue that back down? I am thinking JB Weld but am open to other suggestions.

Don't glue it!!! Don't touch it... Contact PE immediately!

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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

I know but I'm cheap and don't want to pay the shipping back biggrin.gif

That is what sets PE apart from most other companies. Their customer service is top notch! They will send FedEx to pick the driver up from your house. You DO NOT have to pay for return shipping.
Edited by popalock - 11/30/12 at 12:57pm
post #60 of 112
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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

Basically the spider sits up on a plastic ring which gives it more clearance. It is that ring which has pulled away on one side.




I am going to try gluing mine back on and will post the results.

It prob happened during shipping, they are pretty brutal with stuff.

Bet it looks like this:



Thats what some MFWs I saw did during shipping. If PE will replace them I'd get that done, bc all bets are off if you start slapping epoxy in there. They might even tell you to keep em, in which case it should be an easy fix.
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