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post #61 of 74
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posting question on main vpl thread.
post #62 of 74
Probably too late to chime in here - but I have a VW95ES and I find it much too dim for 3D - even at 110".

Another thread over on the 3D Display Forum provided a spreadsheet which implied that I wouldn't get any additional
impact from a Dalite High Power screen since the screen I'm presently using (an old Stewart Firehawk with 1.3 gain)
maintains polarization to the point where I'm actually getting more gain from the Stewart than from the Dalite.
(I don't really understand any of this; I just have to trust the numbers.)

Anyone care to convince me that the spreadsheet calculations are incorrect and that the High Power screen WOULD make a difference? (I have a small sample and the image projected on this sample DOES look brighter than the rest of the picture. The rest of the picture also looks gray in comparison to the High Power (which I would expect from a gray screen designed to increase perceived contrast from low contrast projectors like the Infocus 7200 which I was using when I purchased the screen.)
Edited by DTGallagher - 12/18/12 at 10:22am
post #63 of 74
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Probably too late to chime in here - but I have a VW95ES and I find it much too dim for 3D - even at 110".

Another thread over on the 3D Display Forum provided a spreadsheet which implied that I wouldn't get any additional
impact from a Dalite High Power screen since the screen I'm presently using (an old Stewart Firehawk with 1.3 gain)
maintains polarization to the point where I'm actually getting more gain from the Stewart than from the Dalite.
(I don't really understand any of this; I just have to trust the numbers.)


I'm getting my screen on Thursday. Will let you know how 3D looks on it at 110". How dark is your room????
Also can you provide link to spreadsheet from 3D forum.
post #64 of 74
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Originally Posted by DTGallagher View Post

Probably too late to chime in here - but I have a VW95ES and I find it much too dim for 3D - even at 110".
Another thread over on the 3D Display Forum provided a spreadsheet which implied that I wouldn't get any additional
impact from a Dalite High Power screen since the screen I'm presently using (an old Stewart Firehawk with 1.3 gain)
maintains polarization to the point where I'm actually getting more gain from the Stewart than from the Dalite.
(I don't really understand any of this; I just have to trust the numbers.)
Anyone care to convince me that the spreadsheet calculations are incorrect and that the High Power screen WOULD make a difference? (I have a small sample and the image projected on this sample DOES look brighter than the rest of the picture. The rest of the picture also looks gray in comparison to the High Power (which I would expect from a gray screen designed to increase perceived contrast from low contrast projectors like the Infocus 7200 which I was using when I purchased the screen.)

I can't comment on the Stewart Screen but the closer you mount the Dalite HP screen to eye level the more gain you get. The easiest way to determine if it makes the picture brighter is to call Dalite and ask for a screen sample. I would request a 12x12 sample otherwise you'll get a much smaller sample.
post #65 of 74
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Originally Posted by DTGallagher View Post

Probably too late to chime in here - but I have a VW95ES and I find it much too dim for 3D - even at 110".
Another thread over on the 3D Display Forum provided a spreadsheet which implied that I wouldn't get any additional
impact from a Dalite High Power screen since the screen I'm presently using (an old Stewart Firehawk with 1.3 gain)
maintains polarization to the point where I'm actually getting more gain from the Stewart than from the Dalite.
(I don't really understand any of this; I just have to trust the numbers.)
Anyone care to convince me that the spreadsheet calculations are incorrect and that the High Power screen WOULD make a difference? (I have a small sample and the image projected on this sample DOES look brighter than the rest of the picture. The rest of the picture also looks gray in comparison to the High Power (which I would expect from a gray screen designed to increase perceived contrast from low contrast projectors like the Infocus 7200 which I was using when I purchased the screen.)

You only get an effective gain boost for 3D from a screen that retains significant polarization if the 3D projector has all 3 colors with the same polarization orientation. This is the case for JVC projectors, but not Sony SXRD projectors (e.g., your VW95). As for the Da-lite high power, it can potentially give high gain (eg., near its rated 2.4 gain), but only if it is mounted near eye level or only a modest distance above eye level.
post #66 of 74
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How dark is your room????

Fairly dark but not bat cave dark. I have dark side walls but keep a couple of wall sconces on at low level.

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Also can you provide link to spreadsheet from 3D forum.


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1300238/discussion-screens-for-3d-projection

Zip file is included at the end of the initial post in the thread.
Edited by DTGallagher - 12/18/12 at 5:24pm
post #67 of 74
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Originally Posted by Ron Jones View Post

You only get an effective gain boost for 3D from a screen that retains significant polarization if the 3D projector has all 3 colors with the same polarization orientation. This is the case for JVC projectors, but not Sony SXRD projectors (e.g., your VW95). As for the Da-lite high power, it can potentially give high gain (eg., near its rated 2.4 gain), but only if it is mounted near eye level or only a modest distance above eye level.

I see that you're the originator of the 3d projection screens thread - and I assume of the speadsheet I referenced. I entered a screen gain adjustment of 60% based upon the percent of polarization maintained by the
Stewart screen cited in the initial post of the thread. Are you saying this number doesn't apply based upon the type of projector I'm using? This is much too complicated.

I believe the type of glasses is also factored into the mix. I'm using mostly PS3 glasses since they're relatively cheap.
(I have one pair of Monsters but consider them more trouble than they're worth having some difficulty turning them on and syncing them
with the projector.)

If the polarizatiion adjustment is actually "0" for the Sony/Stewart combination I'm back to considering the High Power screen since it should give me a brightness
of 10.6 fL versus 7.2 for the newly calculated Sony/Stewart combo.
post #68 of 74
i can't say that it will be bright enough for YOU, but i have a 133" 16x9 Hi Power 2.4 screen. My VW95 is mounted about 4 feet above my head, at mid throw, 15 feet. The pic is plenty bright for me in 3D. No complaints. But maybe you want your picture much brighter, i'm not sure. But my setup works wonders for me.
post #69 of 74
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I saw Hugo 3D on my 130" Steward screen with my wife and then later another friend. None of us felt that the screen was dark. Put it this way. If I didn't know that people are having issues with darkness in 3D over 100" size, I wouldn't know of this issue by just looking at my screen. My projector is mounted at 18 ft from screen.

And my I say that it completely blew my mind away. The 3D was amazingggggggggggggggggg. I couldn't believe it. I read in many forums that 3D is good but didn't expect to be this awesome.
And 2D. Well for me it couldn't get any better. So far only my wife and one of my friend have seen it and they both said that the quality is even better than of theater.

I couldn't ask for more. Yesssssssssssssssssssss.
post #70 of 74
Excellent Sheraz! Get "Under The Sea 3D" for a great, quick, 3D demo for guests.
Movies on the 95es is definitely better than most theaters I've seen. Glad you're enjoying it.
post #71 of 74
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Excellent Sheraz! Get "Under The Sea 3D" for a great, quick, 3D demo for guests.
Movies on the 95es is definitely better than most theaters I've seen. Glad you're enjoying it.

Is it downloadable from somewhere or I'd need to buy it?
post #72 of 74
Blu Ray is $18 at Amazon. I've never downloaded 3D material.
post #73 of 74
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Graet thx. By the way it's taking me a while to get used to of wearing thes 3D glasses. I feel they are heavy. I wonder if Monster glasses are lighter than these?
post #74 of 74
I already wear glasses. I don't feel that much difference in weight between the standard Sony or the Monster glasses. Some like the Monsters a lot more, but they perform pretty similarly for me. My daughter actually prefers the cheapest PS3 3D glasses
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