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post #121 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gsferry View Post

Okay, so I just got the E701-A3 at Costco, and its great except that it keeps doing the off/on thing (turning off randomly). It's not clear if it's actually rebooting, as the power cycle it fairly quick. I also have an older 32" Vizio, and it never does this. I'm hoping its just a matter of time before Vizio sends the proper firmware updates over the wire to get it functioning properly, but not sure how long this might take. Got a Blu-ray player and xbox 360 hooked up to it, and seems more reliable to use the xbox for apps, for example Netflix, as when the TV cycles power I don't lose my entire context. Anyone else experiencing the same issue? I will likely be contacting Costco or Vizio soon. Not sure a new set would make any difference, unless it's an issue with the power supply or related part of the board.

I've not have any issue with rebooting. I would check your power strip, outlet, etc. and if OK exchange it.

Michael
post #122 of 2220
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Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post

Looks like from these pics there may be some Banding in this set as well! I am looking into this tV

The camera was not synced correctly with the refresh of the panel so if was closer it actually captures the refresh of the panel.
post #123 of 2220
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Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post

Looks like from these pics there may be some Banding in this set as well! I am looking into this tV ... I have the 65" Vizio M650VSE and Love the TV but the slight banding it has kinda bugs me.
Can we get some more feedback on how this TV does with banding?
We would both like some more feedback on this issue.
Thanks
ALSO .... how is the power up time on this set? My 65" takes about 22-23 seconds from hitting the power button to picture .... how long does this take for that process?

I had to set power on delay to 19seconds in the harmony remote settings. Otherwise the TV wont switch inputs at boot time.
post #124 of 2220
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Originally Posted by JohnTheDoe View Post

I had to set power on delay to 19seconds in the harmony remote settings. Otherwise the TV wont switch inputs at boot time.

I had to do that with my Pioneer Kuro 5020 also. That was one of the only things that annoyed me about that TV.
post #125 of 2220
I Will be posting mounted pics afters a quick shower
post #126 of 2220
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Originally Posted by geant90 View Post

I Will be posting mounted pics afters a quick shower

Boy! This is a long shower!!
post #127 of 2220






Sorry got caught up with deciding on paint!
Don't mind the couch on the bottom its my first time hanging a LED. It is just a 2 day precaution lol
After adding legs on the bottom feet as my wall is not perfect (old apartment building) the tv at its thickest point from the wall should be 3.25"
( In Picture: Top:4.75" Bottom: 3.20")

Again the mount I am using is

Rosewill RHTB-11004 Low Profile Ultra Slim 37"-65" LCD LED TV Wall Mount
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021199 (20 bucks shipped is not a bad deal I will be doing a 5 star review on it soon)
I got mine during an hdmi combo for only 12 bucks ($18 shipped tax free to my house)
Max Load is 150LBs the tv is 78Lbs without stand.
Mount recommends 2 Studs for under 100 and 3 for over. I used 3 studs as the center of the room had center stud and 16 to each side, and is assised by 3 more screws since i have horizontal wood behind my sheet rock.
It is very simple and strong and mine came with an accurate level
The mount is such a low profile that you will need all straight cables and connect all cables before mounting
Buy a 10 Dollar Stud Finder and used 2 extra screws just in case (comes with 3 stud screws for sheetrock)
Edited by geant90 - 11/28/12 at 12:29pm
post #128 of 2220
Did you use 2 or 3 studs for mounting?
post #129 of 2220
3+ I revised my post read again
post #130 of 2220
Okay just took delivery, purchased from Amazon, and did a quick set up with Wow. Immediate thoughts:

-Delivery truck rolled with only one man so I had to do half the work. I will be calling amazon to see what if anything I can get them to do on that.

-Two of the three screws to attach the set to the stand were EXTREMELY difficult to get in. It seems like the holes were bored slightly off angle. It took a lot of sweat to carefully push and turn without stripping them but we finally got it.

-It's big.

-I have some windows behind the seating position and they have no curtains. I could certainly see some reflection though would call the screen semi matte. My attempt at calibrating was done as such. I will go back again tonight for another pass.

-I first turned off all the advanced picture setting stuff and sound stuff as I use my receiver and 7.1 system.

-I could not get it to connect to my WPA2 wifi network. It sees the network with strong signal but won't connect. I will try a wired connection some other time (like when there are reports of a reliable/important firmware update!) but won't bother now bc I use my PS3 for all apps.

-I calibrated in Normal not Movie. This starts the backlight very high...something like 90. I didn't play with that (for now) but I will revisit based on the fact that...

-I have noticeable corner bright spots in the lower right and upper right corners. Absolutely not noticeable on full screen material, noticeable on 2.35:1 content but not badly so.

-The rest of the settings were close to ootb for Normal mode except Sharpness which I set to zero.

-A little DSE on pans during cable, but not too bad. None on blu ray (watched first 15 minutes of lotr:fotr ee. Haven't had a chance to see any sports to observe very fast motion.

-No observable banding.

-Good backlit uniformity except for the two corners noted above and...

-I have the two "feathers" in the two lower corners that have been observed by others. I see them on solid lit (but not black) screens like the PS3 menu screens. They are faint and I don't see them at all on regular programming.

-Blacks are "good" but not great. On pristine material like the BR I watched the picture is very very good though certainly falls short of the JHCHFS reaction when watching similar material on an Elite.

-Had to use my receiver to set a 125ms audio delay for all sources - cable, ps3, appletv. Have not had any opportunity to watch channel after channel, or for long periods, to observe any differences or drift.

-Knock on wood but I am extremely happy. I didn't expect an Elite, but also paid a small fraction of the price of the Elite. This set is classic 80/20 in action, an incredible value. Perfect to tide me over until 70" 4K OLED sets are $3000 smile.gif

-Am bracing for random shutdowns, restarts, and other issues observed by some others here to rear their head. Fingers crossed.

I have to go out tonight so won't likely be able to do a dark room observation until tomorrow night. I'll check then how the right corner hot spots are and if need be can recalibrate in Movie mode, or just lower the backlight in Normal and readjust other settings as needed.

I'm a very happy camper so far!

EDIT: Amazon just gave me a $50 credit bc only one guy showed up, making my actual price $1616 + tax (boo!). It was $1700 with 2% back, or $1666, prior. Even happier now smile.gif
Edited by anthonymoody - 11/28/12 at 1:33pm
post #131 of 2220
Congrats! I would say try running a 24 hr power test on yours i'm testing mine no shut downs or power cycle (that i've seen or heard) And no lines accross screen.
post #132 of 2220
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Originally Posted by geant90 View Post

Congrats! I would say try running a 24 hr power test on yours i'm testing mine no shut downs or power cycle (that i've seen or heard) And no lines accross screen.

Good idea. Will do thanks.

Just before heading out just now I set my kids up to watch Netflix (via ps3) and the backlight is much less even than I'd observed during the day. During the power on screen (first black with the Vizio logo, then plain black after the logo disappears) there was much more noticeable unevenness. I'd have to take a picture rather than describe the pattern, though it's definitely worst in the right upper and lower corners.

I would assume that turning the backlight down would help though I didn't get an opportunity to do that as my kids kicked me out immediately. I will say that once the PS3 screen came up, and then their program, I couldn't notice anything.
post #133 of 2220













The red is actually red its just my phones camera.
White is nice just my camera dose not pick it up (it is even all accross)
Black is not pure black but it is a nice black that is even except for my lower left corner which is barly noticable if your in a all black room. If there is any lighting in the room it is beautiful even with bars on the sceen.
post #134 of 2220
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Originally Posted by goodlucktj View Post

yikes...
so i have owned this television since black friday. until today everything was fine...
...then, as i was hanging out near the living room, i looked over at the television to see what song on pandora was playing, and i noticed this:


thick, horizontal white lines, running all along the television. additionally, it looks as if the resolution of the screen has died as well. all of the vizio menu graphics now look like they came from an ega computer monitor from the 80's.
naturally i called vizio immediately. after a few hoops (send in photos of the television, along with the receipt...also use an extension cord and plug it in elsewhere), vizio said they are expedition a service call to a service office called foxcon servicing - or something like that. anyway vizio is sending them another television and the technician will be arriving to swap out the units.
this foxcon company will be calling me within 3 to 7 days. in the meantime i figured i should give everyone the head's up. the vizio technicians i spoke with had zero idea what the problem could be. this is a new model, and the slate of problems consist of connectivity nonsense, nothing like this.
in case anyone is wondering, these lines persist, whether first turning on the unit, switching the inputs, etc.
this is my third vizio, and while i've never considered vizio to be even remotely high-end, there's certainly a reason i didn't hesitate to buy this unit at costco for $1500: their televisions are great midrange units, in my opinion.

while i was at work, this problem somehow fixed itself. according to my better half, she was watching the television on her day off (in spite of the terrible picture). the television went blank momentarily. when the picture returned, the lines were no longer evident.

i have no idea what happened or how it happened. i still have a scheduled service call to have it replaced, but i'm not sure what is going on.

p.s. - ignore that plant at the bottom right of the picture. sorry.
post #135 of 2220
LOL nice plant but man screw that anyway you can have it exchanged it could easily come right back.
post #136 of 2220
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Originally Posted by geant90 View Post

LOL nice plant but man screw that anyway you can have it exchanged it could easily come right back.

haha blame the wife, man. it's a fake plant in a vase, i'll be cutting that **** down on my day off tomorrow.

do you have some proper tweaking settings for me geant?
post #137 of 2220
other than what i mentioned earlier with the quick settings other than it being sort of bright they have been reproducing colors accurately. Tomorrow or maybe even later on tonight i will tweak the settings until i feel good. Its not bright for everyone but me I have sensitive eyes i guess but i like to try and not go blind lol
post #138 of 2220
How do all of you that set the sharpness to zero stand it? Mine gets very tblurry on zero. I admit that the halo is gone at zero, noticeable at 4, but the jump in clarity from 4 to 5 seems worth the little bit of halo on the dark edges.

With the picture values set to:

backlight 50
brightness 45
contrast 56
color 51
tint 0
sharpness 6

smooth motion on low, real cinema on precision, everything else on zero.

A 720p version of Finding Nemo looked incredible. I couldn't believe it. It was the closest to a 3D image I have seen on a 2D tv. The main issue I am seeing is that there doesn't seem to be one set of settings that is superb for all content. non HD, HD, BluRay, animated, etc They all seem like they need something a little different.

What is "Game Mode" supposed to do. I keep toggling back and forth, but don't really see a difference. I've got it set to on right now. With normal TV viewing I have the contrast turned up to 74 and contrast down to 5. I try to turn the contrast down below 4, but always find I prefer it at 5 or 6.


Hurry and post your settings Geant90! smile.gif
post #139 of 2220
I've had this set for four days now, and can't take my eyes off of it. It really has a great picture. The only problem is I am losing a lot of sleep.smile.gif

I was up until 1:30am (way too late) putting up test patterns, and Windows screens on it. I wouldn't say it is as sharp as a computer monitor, but pretty good. I ran my 4:4:4 color test, essentially a one pixel wide magenta circle on a black background. In Game Mode it nearly passes, but not quite. You can still see green pixels firing on the vertical sections. Out of Game Mode, the color is more heavily down sampled. Also turning the Sharpness to "0" improves the color sampling in Game Mode quite a bit.

Michael
post #140 of 2220
Turned the backlight down to 50. So now in standard I am:

Backlight 50
Brightness 50
Contrast 78
Color 54
Tint 1
Sharpness 0

Everything else off. All the other color,tweaks left in defaults from standard for now.

Much better both in a dark room and with low light on at night but still,want to play with it.

It he backlighting was much more even but still has noticeable issues on black screens and white text on black background credit scenes. Much better than with the backlight cranked as prior, but it's still there. I may play with backing it down further though I have to balance things for some daytime viewing as well.

Watched Argo just now and the filmic period look was really nice and easy on the eyes.

More tomorrow.
post #141 of 2220
Any familiar with what Banding is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yzYtAsrKPA

I have the new 65" Vizio M650VSE and it has a small case of banding that is kinda hard for me to handle.

Saw this TV at Costco today and read the review from a page or so back and I'm interested but would LOVE to get some feedback on how much banding this TV has if any (but most all of them have Some sort of banding it's just how bad.

Thanks for any feedback on this issue.
post #142 of 2220
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Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post

Any familiar with what Banding is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yzYtAsrKPA
I have the new 65" Vizio M650VSE and it has a small case of banding that is kinda hard for me to handle.
Saw this TV at Costco today and read the review from a page or so back and I'm interested but would LOVE to get some feedback on how much banding this TV has if any (but most all of them have Some sort of banding it's just how bad.
Thanks for any feedback on this issue.

Mine has no perceptible banding BUT it does have pretty easily noticeable uneven backlighting. It's a lot better now that I've backed it down to 50 or so, though I still see it on an all black screen and a little with some credits on a black screen. With just about any real content - including 2.35:1 - I don't see it. Haven't tried shadow/dark torture tests like Master and Commander yet.

I may play with going still lower on the backlight. If it holds up as bright enough for daytime viewing I would happily take it lower.

I did note that if I turned the backlight setting down to zero that pretty much took away the uneven backlight biggrin.gif

Seriously I am very happy with this set. My expectations were reasonable and so far they have been exceeded. An incredible buy for the price.
post #143 of 2220
Anyone one have this tv hooked up to a soundbar? Does it fix the voice synch issue?
post #144 of 2220
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

Any banding evident on these sets?
The fog scenes in Master and Commander will suss out any banding. It is a torture test for banding.
Thank you.
Haven't heard from you in awhile. Can you comment on the screen Vizio is using? I read that it was not the latest version from Sharp. If not, can you compare the two screens. Thanks
post #145 of 2220
I have mine hooked up to a sound bar. Optic cable from tv to vizio sound bar. I have not had the voice sync issue. I did have it it drop out the sound when I switched between inputs once. I turned the tv off, then back on and everything was fine.
post #146 of 2220
Vizio E701i-A3
Menu> Picture:

Hey Guys so I spent a decent amount of time and here are my settings:

Remember that each sets back-light LED's and LCD panel is different and colors may not correspond but give it a try and tweak it.

These settings were placed in mind for all around use and I'll explain what should be changed depending on your settings and the colors/brightness was set to be bright enough not to irritate your eyes due to color vibrancy in day light/house light and no light.

PICTURE MODE: Custom
BACK-LIGHT 50
BRIGHTNESS 50
CONTRAST 56
COLOR 50
TINT 0
SHARPNESS 8

MORE

COLOR TEMPERATURE CUSTOM

RED GAIN 125
GREEN GAIN 120
BLUE GAIN 115
RED OFFSET 128
GREEN OFFSET 128
BLUE OFFSET 128

ADVANCED PICTURE

SMOOTH MOTION HIGH
REAL CINEMA MODE SMOOTH
NOISE REDUCTION HIGH
MPEG NR HIGH
COLOR ENHANCEMENT OFF
ADAPTIVE LUMA OFF
FILM MODE AUTO
BACK-LIGHT CONTROL OFF
AMBIENT LIGHT SENSOR OFF

Settings Game Mode Off

Audio Settings

Audio mode Flat
Balance 0
Lip sync 0
SRS StudioSound HD standard
SRS Truvolume off

Now for your console HDMI input of course enable gaming mode and turn off all the smooth motion and those settings.
In Picture settings Sharpness: This should be changed according to input media. I left mine in the middle as it seems to be just about right for every input. If your going to use this as a PC monitor i would set sharpness all the way up as each pixel would be as the source. Decreasing this value is more for when your lower resolution inputs such as 720p content or SD content or bluray 1080p rips If your using it for BluRay player then set sharpness all the way up to 16 as well. This helps pixilation for non SD content when setting it lower but leaving it on 8 gives you a setting thats all around goodenough for everything. For PC gaming i would set it all the way up to 16 if you have AA enabled.
post #147 of 2220
Also You could make all back light bleeding on the bottom left corner if you set the tv at the right high and have a good viewing angle for example:

The very base of my Vizio E701i-A3 on my wall is: 34.75"
The distance from my set and my viewingposition (Edge of couch): 113"
Height of viewing position(Seat): 16"
post #148 of 2220
@geant between those smoothing processing settings and your sharpness setting I guess we couldn't have more divergent tastes in picture.

I can't stand the look imparted by the motion stuff at all. And any sharpness above zero introduces visible pixel ringing (first green then red) as edge artifacts. Unacceptable to my eyes.

Or sets may be different but there's no way I could watch with those settings.
post #149 of 2220
geant90:

What do you mean by "console HDMI input"? I have everything connected via HDMI. Comcast HDDVR, PS3, and Xbox360
post #150 of 2220
@anthonymoody: What is your source? I calibrated by PC then verified by 1080p 24p BluRay rips and blurays its self. If it was not for my 10TB+ of bluray mkvs i would keep my sharpness @ 16 for untouched blurays but since these are compressed .mkvs i leave the sharpness @ 8 and you never see any pixelation caused by compression with the assistance of noise and mpeg reduction. If your watching SD quality content only then should you have sharpness at 0 but all my movies are 1080p and my cablebox is 1080i. The smoothing processing (120HZ) should ONLY be used on 24p content. I was also the perfect distance away from the screen and have 20/20 vision.

I also disable all smoothing process for my cable input as I only like it during bluray 24p

@dpiantino:

You can set each HDMI input differently under settings: Like gaming mode: so where i have my 360/PS3 lets say HDMI 3 and 4 i would enable gaming mode for those HDMI inputs.
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