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post #31 of 2220
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Originally Posted by Frank_K View Post

I see that a few people have bought one of these 70 inches and have them in their home, but not one word yet on picture quality, black levels, motion handling, etc.
Come on guys and girls, give us your initials impressions.


EXACTLY. Instead, we get a detailed description of one's components and cabling scheme... wink.gif

TV impressions and tests folks? Thank you!
post #32 of 2220
I have a tv wall mount that says it holds up to 63" tv and 165 pound tv. Do u think i could get away with using this mount for this tv since tv only weighs like 78 pounds? Or should i buy a new one rated for up to 70" tv?
post #33 of 2220
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Originally Posted by nazird View Post

I bought an E701i yesterday for $1500 at Costco (replaces a 58 inch rear projection 10-yr old Pioneer Elite HDTV). Plus about $100 tax plus $30 rental for truck. Not bad. Saved about $120 compared w Amazon Prime. Before wall mounting I wanted to test out picture quality and all connections. What I would love to get advice on are the connections to my devices. I have some 10-12 yr old stereo equipment that is very good quality but does not have HDMI so here is how I was planning to connect my devices:
1. Verizon FIos TV---Video via HDMI to Vizio; Audio via digital optical to receiver (Integra DTR7.2). I have Totem speakers plus Totem surround sound
2. Rotel RDV-1080 CD player (plan to use only for music): RCA Red/white to Integra. Will forget about using Rotel for video as I have a Blu Ray (below)
3. Sony Blu-ray DVD player. Audio via digital optical to Receiver. Video via HDMI to Vizio
4. Apple Tv; video via HDMI to Vizio; audio via digital optical to Receiver
5. Hearing Aid Streamer connected to RCA Red/White output jack at receiver (I gave my age away!)
6 iPod connected via RCA Red/White to Receiver

.....Welcome thoughts.

I ordered a slighlty different model vizio, but otherwise in similar situation to you. Mine is also replacing an older 65inch RPCRT. I can cable mine similar to you, using RCA cables to my recvr and HDMI to the TV. But I also plan to run digital optical from the TV to my reciever, for OTA broadcasts. I've been woderning if I should simply run all of my audio through the TV since I'll have the dig opt out to my reciever.

One concern I had with running directly audio directly to the receiver is if that would increase potential for lip sync problems.

Good luck and let us know how your cabling works out.

Thanks
Rick
post #34 of 2220
Sanus LL11B is a great mount that has no problem holding my 80 inch sharp. Thinnest non tilt they make
post #35 of 2220
Have the 70 Vizio setup on a stand next to last years Black Friday deal (73" DLP)

I have not made any adjustments to the 70 LED yet.

Colors are more vivid on the LED, blacks are almost gray.
Blacks are blacker on the DLP.

I'm going to enter the suggested settings for the 70 LED right now.

post #36 of 2220
for those considering buying this set, highly suggest you view in person to see if the viewing angles will meet your need. Saw them in Costco yesterday, and in my opinion, the picture washes out and degrades quite quickly as you move off-center.
post #37 of 2220
Every one wants a picture of the TV, so I simply couldn't resist smile.gif
Hopefully today evening smile.gif

post #38 of 2220
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Originally Posted by scooter520 View Post

for those considering buying this set, highly suggest you view in person to see if the viewing angles will meet your need. Saw them in Costco yesterday, and in my opinion, the picture washes out and degrades quite quickly as you move off-center.

I'm not seeing that at all here at my house.

73 Mitsu DLP on the right which is sitting straight along the rear wall.

70 Vizio LED is sitting at an angle and it looks the same to me if I move over and look at it straight on.

post #39 of 2220
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Picture settings menu---
Picture Mode: Movie
Backlight: 53
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 75
Color: 51
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
---Size & Position submenu---
[no change]
some settings for the 60 which should apply to the 70
---Color Temperature submenu---
Colour temperature: Normal
Red Gain: 104
Green Gain: 115
Blue gain: 130
Red offset: 129
Green offset: 130
Blue offset: 132
--Advanced Picture submenu---
Smooth motion effect: Off
Real Cinema Mode: Smooth [grayed out]
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG NR: Off
Color Enhancement: Off
Adaptive Luma: Off
Film Mode: Auto
Backlight Control: Off
Ambient Light sensor: Off

Prior to trying these settings the blacks were the only thing that was better on my 73 mitsu DLP. Colors were more vivid on the Vizio.

After using these settings all colors including blacks are more washed out on the Vizio.

So I will go back to the factory settings and try some different things from there.
post #40 of 2220
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Originally Posted by feeth View Post

Prior to trying these settings the blacks were the only thing that was better on my 73 mitsu DLP. Colors were more vivid on the Vizio.
After using these settings all colors including blacks are more washed out on the Vizio.
So I will go back to the factory settings and try some different things from there.

Vizio said that 70" tv is significantly better than 60", so my guess is that these settings for 60" will not work for 70" model.

Source: http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-e701i-a3/4505-6482_7-35477664.html
post #41 of 2220
and it has been said that the two models other than screen size are the same. There was a review of the 60 and updated with the 70 (trying to find it) where they confirm no real differences in pq other than they love both
post #42 of 2220
Does anyone know if this set supports IP control (i.e., control via ethernet)? I can't find any information about it.
post #43 of 2220
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

and it has been said that the two models other than screen size are the same. There was a review of the 60 and updated with the 70 (trying to find it) where they confirm no real differences in pq other than they love both

The 70inch review - http://hometheaterreview.com/vizio-e-series-70-inch-razor-led-smart-hdtv-reviewed/

It depends who you trust more CNet's news from Vizio or HTR review. Since CNet had the review of 70inch but they pulled it off, so I'd rather wait to find the official story.
In the meantime, may be some kind soul will get ISF Calib done this weekend and share with all of us.
post #44 of 2220
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Originally Posted by tadr View Post

Does anyone know if this set supports IP control (i.e., control via ethernet)? I can't find any information about it.

Unfortunately, Vizio doesn't spend any money in App development etc. They only offer cookie cutter apps and based on earlier reviews, only the Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Pandora are any good. All other apps are just average to junk. So dont expect any App friendliness or any significant app updates from them.
post #45 of 2220
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Originally Posted by feeth View Post

I'm not seeing that at all here at my house.
73 Mitsu DLP on the right which is sitting straight along the rear wall.
70 Vizio LED is sitting at an angle and it looks the same to me if I move over and look at it straight on.

Wow, we have (had) the same setup. I got rid of my 73" Mitsu DLP 73738 2 days before I got the 70" Vizio and I have no regrets. I think the blacks were better on the DLP, but you know, the Vizio seems brighter and the geometry is perfect whereas the DLP had some issues that even after calibration and tuning, could not resolve. And of course, its much quieter vs. the DLP. So far I think the picture is superb.

I used to be super anal and calibrate my TV (thats why I joined this forum). But in the end, only you people on this forum care. I just set it to the way I like to see my picture and thats good enough for me. I think TVs have come a long ways and most presettings are pretty decent. I do however turn off a lot of the electronic aids so the color/picture appears more natural. Now, the sound, I let the amp calibrate all that stuff for me. My ears are so shot that I can't tell anymore hahahah.
post #46 of 2220
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Originally Posted by pharmdogg View Post

Wow, we have (had) the same setup. I got rid of my 73" Mitsu DLP 73738 2 days before I got the 70" Vizio and I have no regrets. I think the blacks were better on the DLP, but you know, the Vizio seems brighter and the geometry is perfect whereas the DLP had some issues that even after calibration and tuning, could not resolve. And of course, its much quieter vs. the DLP. So far I think the picture is superb.
I used to be super anal and calibrate my TV (thats why I joined this forum). But in the end, only you people on this forum care. I just set it to the way I like to see my picture and thats good enough for me. I think TVs have come a long ways and most presettings are pretty decent. I do however turn off a lot of the electronic aids so the color/picture appears more natural. Now, the sound, I let the amp calibrate all that stuff for me. My ears are so shot that I can't tell anymore hahahah.

Very cool!

I'm going to try the stock settings again and then turn off the EAs.

Thanks for the advice!
post #47 of 2220
Last night I linked my Amazon prime account to the VIA and setup the ARC on the tv and onkyo tnx-r 808 and now everything works beautifully!! Initially the ARC and CEC control did not work and then I realized the hdmi cable was not 1.4 compliant so I switched it out Bam! Everything started working as it should!! I'm liking this TV more and more as I try out the Internet apps. I guess smart tv isn't as gimmicky as I thought.

I wonder if I could attach my MacBook Pro and Huey Pro color calibrator? Any thoughts?
post #48 of 2220
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Originally Posted by feeth View Post

Prior to trying these settings the blacks were the only thing that was better on my 73 mitsu DLP. Colors were more vivid on the Vizio.
After using these settings all colors including blacks are more washed out on the Vizio.
So I will go back to the factory settings and try some different things from there.

Did you ever find settings that appealed to you? I've been playing with mine, but I have also noticed that the cnet settings for the 60" don't seem to work well on my set. Mine looks much better with the sharpness set somewhere between 6 and 9.
post #49 of 2220
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Originally Posted by JohnTheDoe View Post

Vizio said that 70" tv is significantly better than 60", so my guess is that these settings for 60" will not work for 70" model.
Source: http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-e701i-a3/4505-6482_7-35477664.html

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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

and it has been said that the two models other than screen size are the same. There was a review of the 60 and updated with the 70 (trying to find it) where they confirm no real differences in pq other than they love both

One thing I observed in the HTR review where he observed no difference (and counted that as a positive for the 70") was that it does not seem that he took any measurements to compare. He may have, and not mentioned it, but it seemed a more casual review IMO. And who knows what the minds eye tells you when you aren't measuring and also not comparing the sets side by side.

Not that I consider Katzmeier the end all over at CNet either...but he is certainly fairly rigorous in his measurements and evaluations.

All said another way, we have reason to believe the sets are at least equivalent, and the possibility still remains that the 70" will measure superior in some way (other than size!)

I just ordered the wow BR and should take delivery of my set some time soon. I will speak with the shipping company tomorrow and let you guys know.

EDIT: btw Amazon now showing out of stock on the 70
post #50 of 2220


The TV is beautiful !! Watching ATL vs TB. Simply amazing, didnt see any 2-3 footballs, no ghosting, all angles are OK. This is with the default settings. No changes made.
The photo taken from iphone, so probably crappy. I upgraded from 50" Pana DLP I bought in 2004 from amazon (mentioned in AVSForum that time) and was very happy with the purchase since then.
Touchwood, still on the original bulb !! But it was overheating last yr, had to take coveroff, clean the dust and put an external fan in summer.

Coming from 50" Pana DLP 720P, this is like huge improvement and look ma, no fan sound!!!!!
post #51 of 2220
yeah, the fan sound was the most annoying part of owning a DLP IMO. Now I should go back and recalibrate my sound system with the Audysse without the fan noise and see if there is any improvement.
post #52 of 2220
The only change I made so far is the turn down the backlight to 70. The default is 95+ or something and its too harsh, colors getting washed off when watching NFL being played in bright sunlight.
post #53 of 2220
I have been enjoying this TV for a couple days now. The movie mode was the best starting point for me, since I like plasma type realism. The other modes have the colors too blown out for my tastes. I see why Vivid looks so awful. It sets the color to 100%. I can't believe people watch TV like that. eek.gif I experimented with the Sharpness, and have it set to 4 (default for Movie mode). Setting it to zero, softened the picture a bit much, so it almost appears "4" is about neutral. Overally, the sharpness is very good.

I am very surprised how good the motion handling of this TV is for being an LCD. I have watched two football games on it now, and it did a great job. I didn't see any ghosting, and the football was visible in all fast motion. Clarity was even retained on pans.

I have seen some judder on movie pans. I am not sure if that is my Dish receiver or the TV at this point. I haven't played around much with the Motion Smoother either. I'll do some more testing.

It appears the bottom of the LCD panel mounting is putting pressure on four areas. There is some flashlight darkening at the bottom corners, and at two points at the bottom of panel. This is only noticeable on very bright scenes. It seems like something Vizio could fix on an update. On the positive side, I see no clouding, and backlighting seems fairly even.

Black levels are pretty good as long as you are not the type of viewer that has their brightness cranked to the max. I have mine at lower levels, and during the day blacks are black, and at night are only slightly lit.

At 45 degrees, there is some washout of the picture, but better than many LCDs I have seen. It is fairly gradual, so you don't get huge differences between the left and right sides of the screen when viewing off angle.

Overall, I am very happy with the A701i-A3. I am looking forward to calibrating it.

Michael
Edited by Michael2000 - 11/25/12 at 2:57pm
post #54 of 2220
please do share your calibration numbers for us fellow owners smile.gif
post #55 of 2220
I am also one of the individuals that generally prefers plasma. It was going to be this or the pany 65" ST30. I like the energy savings with the LCD, and I believe that plasma is a dying breed. I think that OLED will eventually give everything to everyone.

Back on track:

I've lowered the brightness and turned off all of the things that are supposed to "improve" the PQ. It seems that the more features you turn on, it requires more processing power and actually starts to degrade fast moving scenes. It may just be an issue of readjusting the sharpness and brightness to accommodate the motion smoothing. This is my first LCD set so I'm a little lost with respect to the settings. I dislike the soap opera look for movies and general tv viewing.

I ended up reducing my sharpness to 5. While 9 looked better on still images; I could see a moving fuzziness that appears when the sharpness is increased beyond 6.

Posted settings from more advanced users than myself would be appreciated.

Thanks
post #56 of 2220
Any banding evident on these sets?

The fog scenes in Master and Commander will suss out any banding. It is a torture test for banding.

Thank you.
post #57 of 2220
Posting here as well.

Hello All. Just picked up this TV as well from Costco like most of you have as well. So far I'm pretty impressed with the unit. Have watched football most of this sunday and the colors look good. The blacks do lighten up when you view from either angle but its not that bad.

Haven't noticed the darkening on the lower left and right hand corners like was mentioned earlier on this thread.

It definiately isn't a Samsung, but well you're also not paying $3000+ for the unit.

I have heard lots of people mentioning turning off the processing, what does this entail exactly? How do you do this? As I mentioned before the color and quality seem great out of the box, but if there is a way to improve I am more than willing to listen and try it out.

When you watch people move/walk/talk on some high end HDTV's they almost seem to glide on the big screen. Not sure what that is called or what causes that, I'm guessing you see this phenomenom with TV's that are 240Hz or higher?? Maybe just my guess. This TV upon inital review does not do that.

Tried out the YouTube ap. Works pretty good.

Looking to get the best picture out of this screen, so any help will be greatly appreciated. Especially with turning off the processing as mentioned earlier. Also what does that do to the tv? Gonna go play some black ops then come back.. Hopefully to some responses.

Ohh yes and something not really mentioned is the sound quality. I think its great. Definately lots of sound pumping out of the speakers.
post #58 of 2220
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Originally Posted by pharmdogg View Post

yeah, the fan sound was the most annoying part of owning a DLP IMO. Now I should go back and recalibrate my sound system with the Audysse without the fan noise and see if there is any improvement.
I had a Mitsubishi 65" 65C9 DLP and never remember hearing the fan at all except when I turned the sound off and then turned the TV off and stood right next to it while it did the cool down thing.
post #59 of 2220
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Originally Posted by JohnTheDoe View Post

Unfortunately, Vizio doesn't spend any money in App development etc. They only offer cookie cutter apps and based on earlier reviews, only the Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Pandora are any good. All other apps are just average to junk. So dont expect any App friendliness or any significant app updates from them.

To be clear, I'm not talking about apps available on the TV (i.e., smart TV features). I am asking about the protocol (if any) to control this tv over ethernet or wireless (IP). For example, the ability to send it a TCP packet with a command for "Off" or "Video 2" or "channel up", etc. This is a very useful feature for those of us looking to integrate the TV with other components, home automation, etc.

For example, Samsung has an app that you can use to control the TV and you can write your own app to send the same commands and control the TV. I'm trying to figure out if Vizio has something similar. A lot of people used to accomplish this with RS-232 (serial), when this was more common on TVs.
post #60 of 2220
vizio 70inch lcd for 1700 on sale or the panasonic 65st50 plasma for 2048, which should i get? I'm totally stuck on this decision, will be in a medium lit room during the day, but most viewing occurs at night, mostly blu rays and hd cable and streaming on this set, no gaming, i dont care about 3d, doesnt work for me but the girlfriend likes it.. please guys help me make up my mind..lol

I have a 55 panasonic non 3d in another room and like it, want to go bigger in this other room
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