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post #331 of 2210
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Whats a good OTA antenna?

I think for the money, a 4 bay UHF antenna is a great choice. Mine doens't even have an amplifier on it, and I get 112 channels in Los Angeles over a distance of about 50 miles from the transmitter. I just hang it on the side of my chimney. It's flat, so this works perfectly.

Michael
post #332 of 2210
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Hi All,
Just brought this TV home from my local Costco. They got 5 of them in on Tuesday. Got it for the sale price ($70 instant rebate) of 1879.99. My first hand experience with Vizio prompted me to take the extended warranty for another $99
Serial numbers starts with 48 and was loaded with 1.1.4 out of the box.
First impressions are great. Connected with my WiFi network with no issues. Tried Netflix and Amazon Prime both streamed with no problems. Iron Man 2 on Amazon looked great and showed streaming as HD on my FiOS 25/25 internet connection
Hooked up the PS3 and played a bit of Black Ops 2. Set the HDMI 2 input to Game mode. Didn't notice any lag or artifacts during the brief time I played.
I will say that i have issues with Audio Sync. I set iLip Sync to 1 as suggested here, which made it better but its still a bit noticeable. Anyone with a FiOS HD DVR box, care to comment, I would appreciate it.
Also what remote code are you using for the FiOS remote. i can get the volume and on/off to work, but not the mute. Any help here would be great.
Only spent about an hour playing around with it so far. i am going to adjust the picture settings (based on the feedback in the thread) and then fire up the Dark Knight Rises on Blu Ray (via the PS3) tonight. Should be able to then see if there are any screen issues.
I will update this post in a couple of days after I have had time to watch a few hours.
thanks
Ron

The sync issue can be resolved by changing audio output on your cable box to LPCM. The set has a problem communicating with some of them, there are pages of discussion about this in the E60 thread.
post #333 of 2210
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Originally Posted by RichardCarver View Post

The sync issue can be resolved by changing audio output on your cable box to LPCM. The set has a problem communicating with some of them, there are pages of discussion about this in the E60 thread.

I searched for that setting but have not been able to locate it on the FiOS HD DVR box that I am using. The audio section of the menu is pretty sparse.
I will search the E60 thread....thanks
Ron
post #334 of 2210
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

WOW!
That's a real find. That's what I love about these forums. I would never have thought of this. Is this a Vizio remote or an aftermarket one, and what is the model number?
I'll definitely have to try this out.
Michael
Yes this is an aftermarket remote. Here's the link to it on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vizio-Remote-Control-Replaces-VUR8-VUR8P-VUR9-VUR9P-/110640517360?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D4302924994435215411%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D110640517360%26
post #335 of 2210
If you have harmony remote, pick an old vizio tv which has PIP on remote, then add that as a 2nd TV. I an using PiP commands from the 2nd TV and other commands (such as VIA etc) from the main TV.
The second TV I am using is Vizio VF550M. It has all the PiP buttons.
post #336 of 2210
OK....so I originally purchased a M3D651SV. That set had a great picture out of the box, but had some banding and clouding issues. The screen was also a little to reflective for me. I returned it and purchased the E70 for about $250 more.

Out of the box picture was pretty poor, but there is no visible banding, and any clouding or flash-lighting is minimal and not a distraction at all. I've been playing with the settings for a couple of days and it looks quite good now. I'm very happy so far.

Here are a couple of images from a cable broadcast of Titanic. My cable generally sucks, and the photos were taken with a cheap camera.



post #337 of 2210
Is anyone experiencing severe and recurring stuttering issues with the HuluPlus app on this TV? It gets so bad it literally freezes the TV to the point that the I have to manually unplug the TV to restart it since the off switch both on the remote and on the TV won't even respond. Infuriating to no end -especially since Vizio blames Hulu and Hulu blames Vizio for the problems. All other apps work just fine its just Hulu that has problems....all other internet connected apps work perfectly.
post #338 of 2210
Btw: for you guys playing around with remotes/codes for PIP you may also be interested in the findings of a poster in I think the 60" thread wherein he discovered that pressing another Vizio remote's 3D button brought up a 3D sub menu. He had no 3D sources to see if it actually worked. He (or another poster?) chimed in that the set needed some physical layer on the screen for passive 3D... I can't speak to this but if any of you have a PS3 or other 3D capable BR player it'd be interesting to check out for giggles if nothing else.
post #339 of 2210
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Is anyone experiencing severe and recurring stuttering issues with the HuluPlus app on this TV? It gets so bad it literally freezes the TV to the point that the I have to manually unplug the TV to restart it since the off switch both on the remote and on the TV won't even respond. Infuriating to no end -especially since Vizio blames Hulu and Hulu blames Vizio for the problems. All other apps work just fine its just Hulu that has problems....all other internet connected apps work perfectly.

I am not subscribed to huluplus, but just saw a sample video Cosmos, no stuttering or anything. Picture is decent, not HD quality. The remote buttons work, I can pause, fwd, resume, etc. I am at 1.1.3 FW. My TV starts with 46xxx serial number.
post #340 of 2210
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Originally Posted by anthonymoody View Post

Btw: for you guys playing around with remotes/codes for PIP you may also be interested in the findings of a poster in I think the 60" thread wherein he discovered that pressing another Vizio remote's 3D button brought up a 3D sub menu. He had no 3D sources to see if it actually worked. He (or another poster?) chimed in that the set needed some physical layer on the screen for passive 3D... I can't speak to this but if any of you have a PS3 or other 3D capable BR player it'd be interesting to check out for giggles if nothing else.

Now that would be a great undocumented feature!! Can anyone test this out?
post #341 of 2210
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Originally Posted by JohnTheDoe View Post

If you have harmony remote, pick an old vizio tv which has PIP on remote, then add that as a 2nd TV. I an using PiP commands from the 2nd TV and other commands (such as VIA etc) from the main TV.
The second TV I am using is Vizio VF550M. It has all the PiP buttons.

This is very interesting. Especially when there is now a 3D screen that pops up along with the PIP. Without the film for passive, I wonder if it means an active pair of glasses would work? (Assuming it does accept a 3D signal).

What harmony remote are you using? I've been wanting to get one for a while so that I can consolidate my hodgepodge of remotes. ..........comcast dvr, sound bar, tv, and now a second or third vizio tv wink.gif
post #342 of 2210
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Originally Posted by dpiantino View Post

This is very interesting. Especially when there is now a 3D screen that pops up along with the PIP. Without the film for passive, I wonder if it means an active pair of glasses would work? (Assuming it does accept a 3D signal).
What harmony remote are you using? I've been wanting to get one for a while so that I can consolidate my hodgepodge of remotes. ..........comcast dvr, sound bar, tv, and now a second or third vizio tv wink.gif

I have harmony one, bought it 2+ yrs back the day it was released for $100 brand new in frys.
post #343 of 2210
the CNET review is now posted.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-e701i-a3/4505-6482_7-35477664.html


i do have a question. how is the 'start' time for the TV. Is it really close to 30 seconds?
post #344 of 2210
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Originally Posted by Rugged1 View Post

the CNET review is now posted.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-e701i-a3/4505-6482_7-35477664.html
i do have a question. how is the 'start' time for the TV. Is it really close to 30 seconds?

I'm really disappointed with the review. Not because of what they said, but how it was written. If I stopped reading on the first page I would probably be returning my vizio for the 65" Panasonic plasma. It's written like they want to hate it, but it has some redeeming qualities theat keep it from being utter crap. then on the nest page it discusses some pretty good achievements with processing, being on par with more expensive sets, etc. The review of the 60" came across like it was a great tv, the 70" review like it is an ok tv, but they also say they are pretty much identical accept for size. In their defense I think they are talking about the tv priced at full retail of 2k. I think the black friday purchasers ($1499) got a heck of a deal.

Do they post the actual settings they use for the calibration results?

EDIT: I think my start time is much less than 30s, I haven't timed it, but I'm guessing 15-20s
post #345 of 2210
I had to set the power on time to 20seconds in my harmony setup, otherwise none of the post power on commands were being accepted by the TV (such as input/mite/etc)
post #346 of 2210
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Originally Posted by dpiantino View Post

I'm really disappointed with the review. Not because of what they said, but how it was written. If I stopped reading on the first page I would probably be returning my vizio for the 65" Panasonic plasma. It's written like they want to hate it, but it has some redeeming qualities theat keep it from being utter crap. then on the nest page it discusses some pretty good achievements with processing, being on par with more expensive sets, etc. The review of the 60" came across like it was a great tv, the 70" review like it is an ok tv, but they also say they are pretty much identical accept for size. In their defense I think they are talking about the tv priced at full retail of 2k. I think the black friday purchasers ($1499) got a heck of a deal.
Do they post the actual settings they use for the calibration results?
EDIT: I think my start time is much less than 30s, I haven't timed it, but I'm guessing 15-20s

They did post their settings but they are the same as they used on the E60 and come across as muddy and lifeless to me. There are a ton of settings on the E60 thread for the more adventurous among you. If you like clear and sharp with vibrant color my settings are on page 19 of that thread. No, no that's OK, you don't have to thank me. biggrin.gif
post #347 of 2210
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Originally Posted by RichardCarver View Post

They did post their settings but they are the same as they used on the E60 and come across as muddy and lifeless to me. There are a ton of settings on the E60 thread for the more adventurous among you. If you like clear and sharp with vibrant color my settings are on page 19 of that thread. No, no that's OK, you don't have to thank me. biggrin.gif

Sharpness is really the area that I wish I could set and forget, but find myself adjusting all the time. Answer this: If the incoming content is high quality and very "crisp"; Does it need any sharpness correction at all? The reason I ask is because some content seems very crisp with sharpness at 0, while other content looks very blurry with the sharpnes at zero.

Comcast DVR users: What do you set your DVR box sharpness? It has a setting between 1 and 5
post #348 of 2210
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Originally Posted by dpiantino View Post

Sharpness is really the area that I wish I could set and forget, but find myself adjusting all the time. Answer this: If the incoming content is high quality and very "crisp"; Does it need any sharpness correction at all? The reason I ask is because some content seems very crisp with sharpness at 0, while other content looks very blurry with the sharpnes at zero.
Comcast DVR users: What do you set your DVR box sharpness? It has a setting between 1 and 5

I haven't found it necessary to switch back and forth based on content. My current settings work well with cable, streaming and network. I have exactly one blu ray movie so that hasn't presented a huge problem although I didn't find it overly sharp (Alien 3). It's entirely possible you are more sensitive to output than I am. I spent a week tuning my picture and no longer give it any thought two months later.

I could see where you might want to tone it down for crisp input and you could set up one of the many modes for displaying that input, it would just take a second to change modes.
post #349 of 2210
The 60" and the 70" use different screens so I don't see how they could be almost identical. As far as sharpness, has anybody tried a Darbee Darblet yet. It works great with my Sony 60A3000. I also seem to remember some who like it with the 70" Sharps.
post #350 of 2210
Same screen except for the size.
post #351 of 2210
I set up my replacement tv last night. It's got the new firmware. Model number has a 47 in it. I immediately noticed the stand is different. It could be my mind playing tricks, but it seemed shorter from left to righ and longer from front to back. The tv definitely sits lower than the old one. I was able to rest my sound bar on the stand without obstructing the view on the old model, but not the case with the new one. I think it sits 1.5 to 2 inches lower. The color didn't seem as good out f the box. The new set seems to have a much more green tone. It was easily fixed. I also don't think the sharpness setting has as dramatic of an impact on the picture using the same numerical setting. Take this with a grain of salt as I'm comparing two sets with my eye that aren't side by side. My old picture settings don't seem to work with this set. I'm having to fine tune the brightness, contrast, and backlight again. I like the plasma "real" look, so my settings are on the darker side.

Changing the comcast dvr to LPCM solved the sound drop out issue with the earlier set, and I have had no issues in brief period of ownership using the new set.

The new set does not have the bad light bleed from the bottom right hand corner. There is still a little bleed, but I think this is typical of the type of set.

With regard to brightness and contrast when dialing the picture. Which setting should is better to leave at a higher value. I seem to be able to achieve the same look leaving one high and one low. I tend to leave backlight low to reduce bleed.
post #352 of 2210
anyone else having problems with audio becoming out of sync over time watching cable? It can just be my cable box because i flip the channel box and its back in sync
post #353 of 2210
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anyone else having problems with audio becoming out of sync over time watching cable? It can just be my cable box because i flip the channel box and its back in sync

Change your cable box audio output to LPCM, sync will magically disappear.
post #354 of 2210
I am stumped at all the different info I read on AVSFORUM and various pro reviewers . I am trying to deciede between the 70 inch E series and the 3d 65 inch M series . Some have said that each series uses the same screen . But then I read different info . The M series seems to have a glossy screen some don't like . But the 70 E seems to have more serious quality issues that can't be addressed by the owner . Any thoughts on which would be the better option in regard to quality ? As soon as I think I know which one I should take I read somthing that makes me reconsider .
post #355 of 2210
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Originally Posted by reaganday View Post

But the 70 E seems to have more serious quality issues that can't be addressed by the owner .

Can you elaborate on this? I may be in the market for a set and am considering the E701i-A3.
post #356 of 2210
I'm happy with my replacement set. I think the picture is a little better on the new set. A friend came over last not and he commented how nice the picture is. He has an older Sony 55", but it was one of the higher end models at the time. I think the performance of the set is great. I have not seen any issues while watching sports that I was afraid I would see on an LCD. My new set is very uniform. It does have a couple of very small dark feathers on the left and right side near the bottom. It's not worth returning it over because they are really only noticeable on a bright white screen. It seems that every manufacturer has issues here and there from their low end to their high end.

On a side note: Someone hurry and look into the 3D submenu. I'm curious if this tv is the deal of the year. Assuming it displayed 3D content, would you need active or passive glasses? I'm assuming active.
post #357 of 2210
I'm trying to do a little research into this potential 3D capability. Sharp displays use active 3D technology, but I'm wondering if the semi-matte finish on the screen is an FPR coating. on the other hand it could just be the type of sharp panel. There had been some discussion that this tv is using the sharp ASV panel. This vizio also has a fairly good viewing angle and 10bit color processing.

Advanced Super View Technology


Billion Color Panel — One of the evolutionary features of the Advanced Super View panel is its ability to display 10 bits of data per red, blue, and green sub-pixel. This results in a panel that can reproduce over 1 billion colors. Most LCD panels currently available have only 8-bit/primary display capability and some have only 6-bit/primary drivers.
Anti-Glare/Anti-Reflection (AGAR) — Reflection and glare are the bane of every computer display. A display that looks great in a dark room can become almost illegible in normal office lighting because the ambient light reflects from the screen and compromises the contrast ratio. AGAR is a screen coating which forms a quarter-wavelength filter. Incident light is reflected back from front and rear surfaces 180° out of phase, thus canceling reflection rather diffusing it as others do. A diffusion coating also diffuses the image created by the LCD whereas AGAR permits light to pass through uncorrupted. The result is an image with blacker blacks.

Ultra-wide Viewing Angles for Crystal Clear Images from Any Direction

This specification has been one of the major shortcomings of an LCD monitor when compared with a CRT monitor. The viewing angle of a CRT approaches 180° (colors and brightness remain the same as directly on axis). Different technologies have been used to improve the off-axis visibility of LCD displays but they typically compromised the video response time. The Advanced Super View panel is the first to achieve wide viewing angles (170° both horizontal and vertical) without chroma shift and still provide rise and fall times necessary to display moving images. The Advanced Super View LCD is an advanced LCD module for use in monitors and TVs that utilizes technology, developed by Sharp, that give a full 170° viewing angle from all directions. The latest generations TV panels have a response time approaching 15ms with a contrast ratio of 800:1 using OS Drive technology.

Does Vizio buy complete panels and then modify them i.e. add an FPR coating? Do they have the OEM create a panel to their specifications? OR do they just buy the panels that the OEM are using in there own brand and install them as is?

After doing a bit more research it would seem that as long as the Vizio set can accept the proper 3D format, then the users just need something that can output a 3D signal, and a way to trigger the active 3D glasses.
post #358 of 2210
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Originally Posted by dpiantino View Post

After doing a bit more research it would seem that as long as the Vizio set can accept the proper 3D format, then the users just need something that can output a 3D signal, and a way to trigger the active 3D glasses.
I believe that the Vizios that do 3D use passive glasses.
post #359 of 2210
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Originally Posted by rstambo View Post

Hi Azure Chicken,
Just curious...if you spoke to 3 reps that said it was a defect, why didn't they process the warranty? Just wondering...
also, since you still have both TV's what is the manufacturing date of the first one and the new one? Also curious if its a new batch, and exactly how new....
thanks and good luck with the second one....
Ron


Ron, here's what happened after being asked by Vizio to send in a picture of the problem:


REP 1: "Oh wow, that looks really bad. I don't know what that might be, but that definitely doesn't look right. We're going to need more photos though. Can you send a photo of a dark scene?"

REP 2: "Yeah, I can see the light problem you're talking about on dark scenes. I imagine it's pretty bad on black bars like you said. We need more photos though. Can you send in another photo of a lighter scene?"

REP 3: "Hey, yeah, I think that area looks a bit lighter. But we need more pictures so we know exactly what the problem is. Can you send in a picture of the set with a really bright, full screen? Like an HD newscast?"

REP 4: "Got all your photos. It's normal. We're not going to do anything. That's the nature of LED televisions (proceeds on long spiel about how edge lit LEDs work). Thanks for choosing Vizio."


Annoying, but at least Walmart processed an exchange without hassle.


It's possible that I was being too picky, but I'll let you decide. Here's the original photo I sent in to Vizio:


post #360 of 2210
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Originally Posted by rstambo View Post

also, since you still have both TV's what is the manufacturing date of the first one and the new one? Also curious if its a new batch, and exactly how new....
thanks and good luck with the second one....
Ron


Ron, forgot your other question. The other set was shipped a few days ago, so I can't do a comparison. Sorry. I will say that the new set is pretty sweet--and I'm replacing a Kuro.
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