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post #841 of 1187
2/22/13 at 9:10am
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Chad B is coming Monday. Cant wait to see what he can do to this set.

I am not 100% sure but I think he is the first pro ISF to touch this set.
Please take good notes: ie does he access the service menu (how) and if he does what is he doing in the service menu. My guess would be making his calibration the new default for that input. I would like to hear any comments good or bad about what he thinks of the TV. Thanks.
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post #842 of 1187
2/22/13 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by jjthenovice View Post

Please take good notes: ie does he access the service menu (how) and if he does what is he doing in the service menu. My guess would be making his calibration the new default for that input. I would like to hear any comments good or bad about what he thinks of the TV. Thanks.

I am sure Chad B would be thrilled to hear that you want to duplicate his settings without paying him for his services.rolleyes.gif
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post #843 of 1187
2/22/13 at 9:23am
which is exactly why I wont be posting them, just impressions.
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post #844 of 1187
2/22/13 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

which is exactly why I wont be posting them, just impressions.

I am more interested in your impressions. If you actually feel that the calibration actually made a difference. I have been on the fence for years about this. I feel picture quality, like sound is very subjective. What looks good to someone, may not look good to someone else. I am thrilled with my picture , but to someone else it may not look good. Eagerly awaiting your comments.
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post #845 of 1187
2/22/13 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

which is exactly why I wont be posting them, just impressions.

I think you should set up a hidden camera and post the entire process on you tube for the world to see.biggrin.gif
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post #846 of 1187
2/22/13 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

which is exactly why I wont be posting them, just impressions.

I can understand your point about not posting a members calibration data.

I would like the following data, which I don't believe crosses the above line.

Are there a set of factory presets that represent a good calibration? i.e. movie mode, with standard color.

Is the CNET calibration good?

Did you have to adjust any of the color offsets?

Does it still hold true that the best picture still comes form turning off all the video processing? SME etc

I think the above would provide the rest of us with good picture information without compromising your agreement with Chad B.

Hell, maybe Chad B would answer some of these questions for us.

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I think that having a professional calibration, and knowing for a fact that your settings are correct, would go a long way to how satisfied you are with your PQ.
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post #847 of 1187
2/22/13 at 10:10am
Chad pretty much always puts his calibration information (not settings) on his calibration page on another site many of us also visit.
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post #848 of 1187
2/22/13 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

Chad pretty much always puts his calibration information (not settings) on his calibration page on another site many of us also visit.
What site, can you post a link?
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post #849 of 1187
2/22/13 at 2:10pm
I don't think it's allowed here but it should be easy enough to google.
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post #850 of 1187
2/22/13 at 5:37pm
Which is better, the Costco square deal warranty or the vizio warranty?
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post #851 of 1187
2/22/13 at 6:05pm
My personal opinion is Costco. $99 gives you a total of 4 years in home warranty If you're a Costco member and do not buy from Costco. 5 years total if you buy from Costco.
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post #852 of 1187
2/22/13 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

My personal opinion is Costco. $99 gives you a total of 4 years in home warranty If you're a Costco member and do not buy from Costco. 5 years total if you buy from Costco.

I agree if purchased from Costco, But I think the Vizio is better, $ 150.00 for a total of 5 years if purchased anywhere other than Cosco.
Edited by blackssr - 2/22/13 at 7:09pm
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post #853 of 1187
2/22/13 at 7:00pm
Today Seko arrived to deliver a replacement Vizio e701i-A3 to me and as soon as I saw the serial number and the condition of the box, I refused the delivery. The Serial number was actually OLDER than the one I received previously. My first e701 was a serial LFTRNXAN47012XX and the replacement one was LFTRNXAN47001XX, both within the affected range of serial #'s. The box looked terrible and was dented on the front and right side and the bottom was scuffed up and had black marks all over the lower 1/3 of the box.

Now I'm back to my Vizio SV470XVT1A and it looks so darn small. Sam's is willing to replace the TV again, but I'm not so certain I'll get one that's newer and not in the affected range of serial #'s. It's getting quite old unboxing and reboxing these huge TV's, not to mention the tips I give the driver for his trouble, but that's my choice.

Maybe this is a sign to just wait for the 2013 E-Series later this year. Anyone else had a similar experience with Sam's, Costco or any other store that delivered their set?
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post #854 of 1187
2/22/13 at 7:31pm
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Originally Posted by bill875 View Post

Today Seko arrived to deliver a replacement Vizio e701i-A3 to me and as soon as I saw the serial number and the condition of the box, I refused the delivery. The Serial number was actually OLDER than the one I received previously. My first e701 was a serial LFTRNXAN47012XX and the replacement one was LFTRNXAN47001XX, both within the affected range of serial #'s. The box looked terrible and was dented on the front and right side and the bottom was scuffed up and had black marks all over the lower 1/3 of the box.

Now I'm back to my Vizio SV470XVT1A and it looks so darn small. Sam's is willing to replace the TV again, but I'm not so certain I'll get one that's newer and not in the affected range of serial #'s. It's getting quite old unboxing and reboxing these huge TV's, not to mention the tips I give the driver for his trouble, but that's my choice.

Maybe this is a sign to just wait for the 2013 E-Series later this year. Anyone else had a similar experience with Sam's, Costco or any other store that delivered their set?

I went to Best Buy... Picked my TV and took it home.
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post #855 of 1187
2/22/13 at 10:13pm
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Originally Posted by blackssr View Post

I agree if purchased from Costco, But I think the Vizio is better, $ 150.00 for a total of 5 years if purchased anywhere other than Cosco.
You think it worth another $51 for one extra year? $150 for 5 years vs $99 for 4 years.
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post #856 of 1187
2/23/13 at 12:27am
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Is the CNET calibration good?

It was Perfect for me ... the best in my opinion out of all settings I have seen posted in this thread so far.
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post #857 of 1187
2/23/13 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

You think it worth another $51 for one extra year? $150 for 5 years vs $99 for 4 years.
I think it is. With my luck I'll need service at 4 years and 1 day. For me it was only about $35.00 due to sales tax and surcharge for being a non Costco member.
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post #858 of 1187
2/23/13 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by french_guy View Post

OK, so I went to Costco and bought the 64" Samsung (Plasma)
I am very pleased with the PQ...
So I will try to do a real side by side comparison tomorrow (I have a HDMI switch and I will use it to switch from 1 set to the other)
Even though the Samsung is 6" smaller, price difference is substantial....(~$550)
So it will be a tough call..........!!!

OK, so I've put the 2 sets side by side, and hooked a WD TV Live on each set. Then, I have ripped a bluray (Fantastic 4 - The rise of the silver surfer) and put that rip on 2 USB sticks, 1 on each WD TV Live. So this is really a true side by side comparison

1st impressions:
The Samsung is MUCH "crisper" with great contrast and deep blacks
At the beginning of the movie, there is a scene with a planet in the dark space,with tons of stars....I could barely see those stars on the Vizio (movie mode) , and pushing the brightness was mostly bringing more "greyish" blacks
And at the very beginning, the texts from the credits were yellosih on the Vizio, and white/silver on the Samsung, which is I guess the real color
Globally, colors seem washed out on the Vizio and very "crisp" / "sharp" on the Samsung
I am not sure how to bring more natural white colors on the Vizio without turning the blacks into a greyish tint...?? Any recommendations?

I am sure a good calibration could help and improve things, but this is valid for both sets

So for now, the Samsung seems a keeper, unless somebody can give me some good parameters to have deeper blacks, and suppress this yellowish tint in the credit that are supposed to be silver...
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post #859 of 1187
2/23/13 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by french_guy View Post

OK, so I've put the 2 sets side by side, and hooked a WD TV Live on each set. Then, I have ripped a bluray (Fantastic 4 - The rise of the silver surfer) and put that rip on 2 USB sticks, 1 on each WD TV Live. So this is really a true side by side comparison

1st impressions:
The Samsung is MUCH "crisper" with great contrast and deep blacks
At the beginning of the movie, there is a scene with a planet in the dark space,with tons of stars....I could barely see those stars on the Vizio (movie mode) , and pushing the brightness was mostly bringing more "greyish" blacks
And at the very beginning, the texts from the credits were yellosih on the Vizio, and white/silver on the Samsung, which is I guess the real color
Globally, colors seem washed out on the Vizio and very "crisp" / "sharp" on the Samsung
I am not sure how to bring more natural white colors on the Vizio without turning the blacks into a greyish tint...?? Any recommendations?

I am sure a good calibration could help and improve things, but this is valid for both sets

So for now, the Samsung seems a keeper, unless somebody can give me some good parameters to have deeper blacks, and suppress this yellowish tint in the credit that are supposed to be silver...

I think it would be more fair for you to calibrate first and then do a comparison. If the Samsung's Initial settings are better than the Vizio initial settings, then a calibration may give Visio an opportunity to shine. Just my two cents.
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post #860 of 1187
2/23/13 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by Teletodd View Post

Which is better, the Costco square deal warranty or the vizio warranty?


I'm wondering this myself. I am also concerned about what happens if you by an exteended warranty & have a problem in the first year. I have read that while Vizio has in home warranty service, rarely can they fix the problem & then it's on me to ship the TV to California. I hate to think how much headache & $$ it would be to do that. Any insight would be appreciated.
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post #861 of 1187
2/23/13 at 10:27am
Who told you this? All large screen TVs are fixed in the home. It is absurd to think you would have to ship the TV to the West Coast for repair.
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post #862 of 1187
2/23/13 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by lankadragon View Post

I think it would be more fair for you to calibrate first and then do a comparison. If the Samsung's Initial settings are better than the Vizio initial settings, then a calibration may give Visio an opportunity to shine. Just my two cents.
Yes, probably...But I do not have the WOW calibration disc. Any good parameters to recommend?
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post #863 of 1187
2/23/13 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by french_guy View Post

OK, so I've put the 2 sets side by side, and hooked a WD TV Live on each set. Then, I have ripped a bluray (Fantastic 4 - The rise of the silver surfer) and put that rip on 2 USB sticks, 1 on each WD TV Live. So this is really a true side by side comparison

1st impressions:
The Samsung is MUCH "crisper" with great contrast and deep blacks
At the beginning of the movie, there is a scene with a planet in the dark space,with tons of stars....I could barely see those stars on the Vizio (movie mode) , and pushing the brightness was mostly bringing more "greyish" blacks
And at the very beginning, the texts from the credits were yellosih on the Vizio, and white/silver on the Samsung, which is I guess the real color
Globally, colors seem washed out on the Vizio and very "crisp" / "sharp" on the Samsung
I am not sure how to bring more natural white colors on the Vizio without turning the blacks into a greyish tint...?? Any recommendations?

I am sure a good calibration could help and improve things, but this is valid for both sets

So for now, the Samsung seems a keeper, unless somebody can give me some good parameters to have deeper blacks, and suppress this yellowish tint in the credit that are supposed to be silver...

No one can sway you either way.. PQ is subjective..keep the one that looks good to you and call it a day.
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post #864 of 1187
2/23/13 at 10:32am
http://www.amazon.com/Wow-Blu-ray-Artist-Not-Provided/dp/B00462PTDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361644345&sr=8-1&keywords=wow+calibration


I just got this last week.
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post #865 of 1187
2/23/13 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by french_guy View Post

Yes, probably...But I do not have the WOW calibration disc. Any good parameters to recommend?

If you look in the AVS calibration forum, they have what they call the 709 Patterns calibration set that you can download and use.

Thanks!
Rick
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post #866 of 1187
2/23/13 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by blackssr View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Wow-Blu-ray-Artist-Not-Provided/dp/B00462PTDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361644345&sr=8-1&keywords=wow+calibration


I just got this last week.
Have yo used it yet?Any settings you can share?
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post #867 of 1187
2/23/13 at 3:47pm
Calibration, Bah, Humbug

Downloaded firmware 1.1.5.1 which adds the following canned setting "Hockey" biggrin.gif
Seriously, I have experimented with settings and now have a GREAT picture. Watched a Flyers game today, looked great. watched a blu ray movie last night & it was great too as are the HD shows I watch on cable.
I couldn't be happier with the picture, I can't say that everything will look good with these settings but I will see. I'd be surprised if a formal calibration would be magnitudes above what I've got now
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post #868 of 1187
2/23/13 at 4:02pm
OK, so I ended up returning the Vizio.....It was not an easy decision though!!!
I think price difference was part of the decision ($1,050 vs $1,550). And on top of it, I am leaving next week on a business trip and the wife did't want to have the 2 TV laying around in the family room

I found the colors to be too fade and yellowish on the Vizio, and crisper and more accurate on the Samsung. But I also found the picture more "detailed" on the Vizio...go figure!!!

So, I kept the Samsung, and I will order the WOW bluray (Disney calibration disc) to play with the settings
Since I have 3 months to return the TV, I will see how it goes with several discs (blurays and DVD)

I am pretty sure Costco (or Sam's club) will keep their prices (or make another discount) in the next coming months on the Vizio (or another model, who knows....)
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post #869 of 1187
2/23/13 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by indept View Post

Calibration, Bah, Humbug

Downloaded firmware 1.1.5.1 which adds the following canned setting "Hockey" biggrin.gif
Seriously, I have experimented with settings and now have a GREAT picture. Watched a Flyers game today, looked great. watched a blu ray movie last night & it was great too as are the HD shows I watch on cable.
I couldn't be happier with the picture, I can't say that everything will look good with these settings but I will see. I'd be surprised if a formal calibration would be magnitudes above what I've got now
Did you download this or did the TV automatically detect an update? If you downloaded it, where did you download it from?
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post #870 of 1187
2/24/13 at 12:09am
Sorry, it was a sarcastic joke, I am a hockey fan and they include options for all sports except hockey (they even have a golf setting) As far as downloading firmware updates, connect it to your network either by cable or wireless & the updates (the real ones which 1.1.5 is the latest) will download. AND as an update, my wife & I watched the latest Sherlock Holmes movie, Game of Shadows on cable and the picture was awesome, I love this TV.
Edited by indept - 2/24/13 at 12:15am
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