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post #151 of 426
Even if he does pay 24.99 that doesn't make them thieves. It just makes him unlucky. That was the price when he bought it. That's just another case of these people who feel like they are owed something when they are not.
post #152 of 426
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

Amazon just dropped it to $19.99 for the blu ray. However I needed to cancel my original order in which they awere going to charge $24.99 (Amazon is a bunch of thieves).

Amazon is not a bunch thieves but you are jumping to conclusion.
post #153 of 426

Amazon has like the best customer service. Even if they charged the wrong price, Amazon would have credited him for the difference and issued additional $10 promotional credit for the inconvenience. I wish Amazon would over-charge me biggrin.gif

post #154 of 426
One of three things will happen with Amazon. First is that they will automatically drop your price before they ship. Second, they won't drop your price, but charge you the $24.99 and then issue you a credit in one of two days. The third and it's happened to me, is that they won't automatically drop the price, will increase the price before the release date, and charge you either the $24.99 or the new release day price. Even then, if you complain to customer service you're likely to get a credit between the lowest and what they charged you at release.

I personally always look to see if my order price has been adjusted if I see a price drop. If yes, no problem. If no, I cancel and just re-order because I just don't want to deal with credits on my card.

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Originally Posted by paul nyc View Post

No need to cancel the pre-order. Amazon will charge you the $19.99 when it ships (they don't charge your card until it ships). Are they still thieves, then?
post #155 of 426
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

Hate those folks at dvdworldusa.com
yes (and I don't care for posting my comment on-line here) dvdworldusa.com breaks the street date only to UK customers and not to US customers. I don't know how they get away with it. I hope the authorities seize them.
That's where everyone overseas is getting the early jump on bluray for Skyfall.
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/blu-ray-review-skyfall/14528

For those interested. One caveat: The disc menu graphics and art appears to be different than the Bond 50 set. I have no proof yet but it would appear that the physical blu ray disc's art will not match with the other 22 on the Bond 50 set. A real shame if true. Barbara Broccolli and Co. never learn how to treat the consumer right and apparently are still in a legal dispute with Sean Connery who I hope sticks it to them by not showing up for the 50th anniversary Bond segment in the upcoming Oscars telecast.
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

Amazon just dropped it to $19.99 for the blu ray. However I needed to cancel my original order in which they awere going to charge $24.99 (Amazon is a bunch of thieves).

LOL, this movie doesn't even street 'til next week and it appears to have given you more grief than a tax audit!
post #156 of 426
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Originally Posted by Partyslammer View Post



LOL, this movie doesn't even street 'til next week and it appears to have given you more grief than a tax audit!

Lmao at that, nice smile.gif

One of life's great pleasures, observing people shelving the planets real issues and focussing on 1st world problems lol.
post #157 of 426
Just found out from the IRS that my refund was approved and will be deposited in my bank account on the 12th. Same day as Skyfall's release. Quite good timing, I must say. biggrin.gif
post #158 of 426
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Originally Posted by Jdurg View Post

Just found out from the IRS that my refund was approved and will be deposited in my bank account on the 12th. Same day as Skyfall's release. Quite good timing, I must say. biggrin.gif

If you're counting on a tax refund to be able to justify the purchase of a $20 disc, you may want to re-prioritize a little.
post #159 of 426
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Originally Posted by spectator View Post

If you're counting on a tax refund to be able to justify the purchase of a $20 disc, you may want to re-prioritize a little.

Lol. biggrin.gif Yeah, upon re-reading what I wrote that didn't come across so great. biggrin.gif Probably should have also stated that the refund is allowing me to finally get new tires for my car so while I'm out doing that, I can go and pick up the Blu-Ray once the new tires are on.
post #160 of 426
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

Amazon just dropped it to $19.99 for the blu ray. However I needed to cancel my original order in which they awere going to charge $24.99 (Amazon is a bunch of thieves).

If you do preorder, don't you get a refund if the price drops?

I got a bunch of refunds when I preordered the Indy collection and The Game on BD.
post #161 of 426
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Originally Posted by Jdurg View Post

Lol. biggrin.gif Yeah, upon re-reading what I wrote that didn't come across so great. biggrin.gif Probably should have also stated that the refund is allowing me to finally get new tires for my car so while I'm out doing that, I can go and pick up the Blu-Ray once the new tires are on.
Forget him. 007 should be the first priority. smile.gif
post #162 of 426
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Originally Posted by coolscan View Post

And a complete idiot when it comes to choosing camera for such a big franchise shooting with a low resolution camera when he could have shot it with a camera three times the resolution.
Particularly when he knew beforehand it would be converted to IMAX and even up-converted to regular 4K.
Some people complained of Pixelation on the IMAX screen.

Also never understood that so many people hail him as the best DP in the world. Never seen a film he has shot that the cinematography made any special impression.
lol you have no idea about cameras do you? whats low resolution? its shot 2.7K RAW and Alexa's dynamic ranga is waayy better than film..Also i personally OWN RED cameras and 5K means (Higher RES) means nothing for some DP's they prefer to choose better color science and higher latitude.
What you ll get more if this movie being shot on Red Epic?(hence some parts in Turkey shot on Epic we rented camera for heli shots i filled imdb info) but he didnt like the Red and he wont never.He s an arri guy from the beginning.
there are many movies shot on 5K Red Epic and they looks like shi* on the bluray.
BTW go watch Assassination of Jesse James wink.gif
post #163 of 426
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Originally Posted by coolscan View Post

And a complete idiot when it comes to choosing camera for such a big franchise shooting with a low resolution camera when he could have shot it with a camera three times the resolution.
Particularly when he knew beforehand it would be converted to IMAX and even up-converted to regular 4K.
Some people complained of Pixelation on the IMAX screen.

Also never understood that so many people hail him as the best DP in the world. Never seen a film he has shot that the cinematography made any special impression.
lol you have no idea about cameras do you? whats low resolution? its shot 2.7K RAW and Alexa's dynamic ranga is waayy better than film..Also i personally OWN RED cameras and 5K means (Higher RES) means nothing for some DP's they prefer to choose better color science and higher latitude.
What you ll get more if this movie being shot on Red Epic?(hence some parts in Turkey shot on Epic we rented camera for heli shots i filled imdb info) but he didnt like the Red and he wont never.He s an arri guy from the beginning.
there are many movies shot on 5K Red Epic and they looks like shi* on the bluray.
BTW go watch Assassination of Jesse James wink.gif
Alexa's dynamic range is certainly not way better than film. They are about the same with advantage to Alexa in the shadows and advantage to film in the highlights. The first camera with (way) better dynamic range than film will be Red Epic with the new Dragon sensor.
Concerning looking like **** you can shoot your stuff with Alexa or Red Epic and it will look like **** on BD if you don't know what you are doing or great if you do. The relevant differences will be visible best at 4K, not 1080p, where Alexa with its half resolution is clearly soft compared to Red Epic.
post #164 of 426
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/8113/skyfall.html

Review is up. Time to test the limits (and neighbors patience) of the audio receiver this weekend. What's the loudest anyone heard a movie at home? -30db?
post #165 of 426
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Originally Posted by mhafner View Post

Alexa's dynamic range is certainly not way better than film. They are about the same with advantage to Alexa in the shadows and advantage to film in the highlights. The first camera with (way) better dynamic range than film will be Red Epic with the new Dragon sensor.
Concerning looking like **** you can shoot your stuff with Alexa or Red Epic and it will look like **** on BD if you don't know what you are doing or great if you do. The relevant differences will be visible best at 4K, not 1080p, where Alexa with its half resolution is clearly soft compared to Red Epic.

I think both the Arri and the Red are great cameras. Lots of films filmed on the Arri look great IE Avengers and Argo. So does films shot on Red IE Prometheus, District 9, Flight, and Total Recall.

I saw Avengers and Skyfall on a 4k projector and thought i looked pretty good! For some odd reason, I always have preferred the "Red" look for films with a lot of CGI like Prometheus and Total Recall while the Arri look for...I guess Dramas.
post #166 of 426
Just watched Skyfall and it was all I hoped it would be. One of the few blind buys I have ever made. Because of the answers to my questions by members here I pre-ordered this title. Thanks again to members here for answering my questions sometime back.
post #167 of 426
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

I think both the Arri and the Red are great cameras. Lots of films filmed on the Arri look great IE Avengers and Argo. So does films shot on Red IE Prometheus, District 9, Flight, and Total Recall.

I saw Avengers and Skyfall on a 4k projector and thought i looked pretty good! For some odd reason, I always have preferred the "Red" look for films with a lot of CGI like Prometheus and Total Recall while the Arri look for...I guess Dramas.

At some point we will need to ask ourselves when we should transition from "film look" (which is a product of the technology available for so long, along with its limitations) to "life-like" (with the new digital cameras).

It's sure going to look different, but then when 24p was introduced I was over the moon to finally be rid of pulldown judder and 120p presentation even reduced the inherent 24p judder.

I don't see the real world through a film of grain (well, not yet anyway).

Looking forward to receiving my copy of Skyfall.
post #168 of 426
The PQ of the BD of Skyfall is excellent....good depth and detail.
Needless to say, with Roger Deakins behind it, it is to be expected.wink.gif

The audio was good enough.
post #169 of 426
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

The PQ of the BD of Skyfall is excellent....good depth and detail.
Needless to say, with Roger Deakins behind it, it is to be expected.wink.gif

The audio was good enough.

Good to hear Oink im looking forward to it.
post #170 of 426
I finally saw this last night and thought it was 1 of the better looking and sounding BR's I've seen.

I can agree with some of the complaints about the movie. The ending though is my biggest issue.

And maybe I'm missing something but no one else seemed to have an issue with the following...?!?!
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
So Bond decides to take M to a big old house, out in the middle of a HUGE field, basically out in the middle of nowhere, where it would be just him, and that old guy, there to protect M against who knows how many bad guys? When I was watching that whole sequence, I just kept expecting M to say to Bond "What in the bloody hell were you thinking dragging me all the way out to this house out in the middle of nowhere you damn fool!!!" And then when the bad guys do show up, that first round of them were SOOOOOOOO easy to take out! Alot of the point of that last half hour or so seemed to be there to just give Bond a chance to showcase that old Bond car and to show where Bond grew up. 1 of the weakest ends to a movie I can ever remember seeing. frown.gif
post #171 of 426
Does anyone have any issues playing back "Skyfall"? I have a Pioneer BDP-09FD and BDP-05FD... Both players stop after the opening 20th Century Fox splash screen and then nothing...

It plays back fine on a Oppo and a Sony player...
post #172 of 426
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Originally Posted by Jon S View Post

Does anyone have any issues playing back "Skyfall"?.

Sorry you are having problems with your Pioneers. Played fine on a Panasonic DMP-BDT220.
post #173 of 426
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

I think both the Arri and the Red are great cameras. Lots of films filmed on the Arri look great IE Avengers and Argo. So does films shot on Red IE Prometheus, District 9, Flight, and Total Recall.

I saw Avengers and Skyfall on a 4k projector and thought i looked pretty good! For some odd reason, I always have preferred the "Red" look for films with a lot of CGI like Prometheus and Total Recall while the Arri look for...I guess Dramas.

Funny. For me it's the other way around. I like Arri more than Red. Red has a flat digital look to it. Arri is digital but it has film like qualities.
post #174 of 426
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Originally Posted by saprano View Post

Red has a flat digital look to it. Arri is digital but it has film like qualities.
Exactly. Too bad Fincher didn't shoot The Social Network and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo on Alexa. The cinematography is great in both these films, but they have this flat, depthless look, also medium shots are not so impressive when it comes to facial detail.

Alexa is wonderful in my opinion, at least in Roger Deakins hands. I can't wait to see what he does next with that camera.
post #175 of 426
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Originally Posted by Johnny Vertigo View Post

Alexa is wonderful in my opinion, at least in Roger Deakins hands. I can't wait to see what he does next with that camera.
Personally I'm more interested in what the Sony F65 can do. Uncompressed true 4K from an 8K sensor, 14 stops of dynamic range... should make for some lovely IMAX blowups.
Never been a big fan of movies shot on the Red cameras. There's something about the way it renders colors...
post #176 of 426
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Opinions on the movie are one thing, but this just doesn't make any sense at all to me. You must have seen an exceptionally poor theatrical presentation.

That's quite possible seeing as how we only have average multiplexes in the area with basic DLP projection systems. However, I may not like the modern, heavily stylized digital IP "look" and modern amber/teal color timing in general. Give me real 65mm any day. The cinematographic work of Ron Fricke, who normally shoots with large-format film and custom cameras, is breathtaking and far more natural than the work of today's Hollywood DP.

Wasn't Arri supposed to be coming out with a 4k capture and workflow version of the Alexa to compete with Sony, RED, etc.?

It'll be interesting to see what Panavision comes up with in the 4k and 8k arena, seeing as how their Genesis camera wasn't all that great and very video-ish.
post #177 of 426
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Originally Posted by yadfgp View Post

And maybe I'm missing something but no one else seemed to have an issue with the following...?!?!
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
So Bond decides to take M to a big old house, out in the middle of a HUGE field, basically out in the middle of nowhere, where it would be just him, and that old guy, there to protect M against who knows how many bad guys? When I was watching that whole sequence, I just kept expecting M to say to Bond "What in the bloody hell were you thinking dragging me all the way out to this house out in the middle of nowhere you damn fool!!!" And then when the bad guys do show up, that first round of them were SOOOOOOOO easy to take out! Alot of the point of that last half hour or so seemed to be there to just give Bond a chance to showcase that old Bond car and to show where Bond grew up. 1 of the weakest ends to a movie I can ever remember seeing. frown.gif
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Bond couldn't take M to a police station, government factility or safe house because Silva had agents working in those places and would easily be able to track and get to her. Bond had to take her off the grid, to a remote location that he could defend on his own. The location of the manor in a wide open field meant that it was impossible for anyone to sneak up on the house.

This is all very clearly explained in the movie.
post #178 of 426
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Bond couldn't take M to a police station, government factility or safe house because Silva had agents working in those places and would easily be able to track and get to her. Bond had to take her off the grid, to a remote location that he could defend on his own. The location of the manor in a wide open field meant that it was impossible for anyone to sneak up on the house.

This is all very clearly explained in the movie.

I know that. You missed my point...
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
It's just Bond and that old guy! Bond's a helluva tough guy but come on, the odds are gonna clearly be stacked up against them. Just seemed like a stupid plan. M ends up dying anyways so it clearly wasn't a very good plan.
post #179 of 426
Come on, it's just a movie. Compared to based on magical coincidences Silva's plan, Bond's strategy was masterful.
post #180 of 426
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Originally Posted by Johnny Vertigo View Post

Come on, it's just a movie. Compared to based on magical coincidences Silva's plan, Bond's strategy was masterful.

If it was so masterful why did it end up being a complete failure?

I guess if you mean you liked the way it made the story unfold and how it added to your overall enjoyment of the movie than that's fine.

I think if I was M I'd be pretty PO'd at Bond for being put in that situation.
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