Pioneer SC-1222-K Anyone? - Page 8

Thank you. I think the top model does volume over OSD (without requiring that proprietary connection anymore). I was hoping this model would.

Pioneer now supports HDMI-CEC, it is like a local area network through your HDMI connections so if your TV supports this standard you will have the OSD of your TV showing the volume change of your SC-1222. This standard tries to unify all your AV devices under a single user interface, single remote, single OSD, etc... I have a Samsung TV and works perfectly.

Regards
Edited by okibcn - 1/29/13 at 5:14pm

Thanks for the update, unfortunately this is true only if you have a Samsung TV. With my Panasonic plasma it doesn't work.

Very, very impressive given the price (on Newegg anyways, lol).
Edited by e_honda - 1/29/13 at 6:30pm

It sort of works with my Sharp TV. Instead of showing the +/- db volume setting, it shows the "TV volume" but is controlling the receiver's volume. However, the volume isn't scaled so for example, the TV volume is at 70, the receiver may only be at around -30db.

I have a Samsung un 7100 es and would like to have the volume OSD. I use a logitect remote to control my system. Are there some specific set up steps required for the 1222 and/or the Samsung to get this to work. I looked at the 1222 manual "control with HDMI function and it wasn't obvious. Any assistance is appreciated.

You probably have to enable CEC on the Samsung and Receiver.


Anyways, this dropped another $20 on Newegg to $529.99. And they won't give me a price adjustment. Sigh.

Yes, fight Newegg for a $20 price adjustment.

+ $20 off w/ promo code EMCYTZT2867, ends 1/31

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=pioneer+receiver&x=0&y=0

I plan on doing the same....not sure how receptive they will be but its worth a shot.

Man I'm really really torn between the 1222 and a Denon 3312. I can grab both for around the same price. Are the only difference between the two the 12v triggers and crossover abilities?

The Denon has 2 HDMI out, you can't go wrong with any of them.

MCACC vs Audyssey
Class D vs not.

i would order both and return one. i would probably never have picked the 1222 based on stats alone. you GOTTA hear it. end of story.

I prefer to lose the 12v trigger, and Individual CrossOver Vs Class D3 Amps!! Sound Quality on this receiver is AMAZING!. I own a Denon 3311 and prefer this 1222!!!!... MCACC vs Audessey; well to be honest if its Audessey XT32 then "MAYBE" I will choose Audessey; otherwise; Advanced MCACC is AWESOME!!.....

If your main speakers can really go low; around 20Hz then maybe you can select the Denon; so you can set low crossover at mains and high crossover at center/rears. If your main, center and rears can handle at least 80hz or even 100Hz; then do not care about the Global Crossover settings!.... The subwoofer will do the job of frequencies below 80hz.
Edited by javygonx - 1/30/13 at 9:22am

I like this AVR due to the inexpensive price. However, I am planning to get an external amp and more powerful for speakers so having 12 v triggers and discrete xover is a must. Yet I keep thinking about getting this one mainly due to price.

If your external amp will be plugged into the same area as the AVR, you can always look into a "smart" surge strip. Basically there is one outlet that senses a current draw and then flips on the other outlets. So if the AVR is plugged into that outlet, when the AVR starts drawing power (i.e. you turn it on) it would "flip on" the outlet the amp is plugged into.

Not the most elegant way, but it works.

Or you can bump up to the SC-61 and get your triggers Im still very curious if the trigger contacts are already onboard on the 1222.

You'll never know until you get your crowbar out.

Nope don't want to do that.

Debating on replacing this with my SC-25 at current price.

Heh, maybe after the 1 yr warranty is up.

Dunno what it is but everytime I use my crowbar I end up breaking something.....must just be coincidence(s)

Cant find the service manual either, that might tell a better story.

I like to know how this is done also. I have the sc1222 and a Samsung es7500 but the pioneer receiver seems to only want to control volume onscreen through it's TV input. When Cec is both on in the TV and receiver the receiver always automatically goes to TV input.

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I saw that newegg had this on sale for 529.00 again. I currently have an Onkyo tx-nr807 but am wondering if it would be much of an upgrade. Any suggestions?

AB to D3 class is always an upgrade, a very noticeable upgrade. But it always depend on what is important for you. God luck with your decision. I am really happy with the SC-1222.

Regards

For everyone here lamenting the lack of 12v triggers, couldn't you just add something like the Audiocontrol LC2i that I use in my car? It has the advantage of being cheaper than springing for the next model up also.

What does that do? From my Googling it, it appears to only manage bass. Not turning equipment on and off.

I ordered the 1222 from newegg Sunday ($549) - should arrive tomorrow. Just talked with newegg - got the $20 off! I don't know what they'll do if you already have it but if you are like me, just point out that you can refuse delivery and re-order with the promo code. Worked for me.

Did you call them or just chat online?

Remember who you talked to by any chance?

Thanks.

I set mine up last night but not completely (school night = no time to run the room correction, test movies, etc).

A few initial thoughts:

The UI isnt *that* bad. Its not quite as polished as the Onkyo 809 I had before, but functionality-wise its pretty much the same. Now, the avr itself is missing a few neat features that the Onkyo had (you could +/-db depending on input format [DD, DTS, etc] on the Onkyo, you could also specify a default format per input)

HDMI pass through works differently (and better) than the Onkyo: the Onkyo seems to have left the HDMI board "lit up" regardless of if there was an incoming signal and/or if the TV was on. The Pio seems to only leave the HDMI board active if there is an incoming signal. It also runs a LOT cooler than the Onkyo did: the case stays cold even with passthrough on and a signal coming in. The Onkyo would get warm enough to feel it....probably not a huge issue, but if left on 24/7 who knows. Im assuming the Pio is using less power too.

HDMI source switching and bootup time is faster than the Onkyo. The Pio let me see exactly what happens when I boot cold: the HDMI signal is at the receiver immediately, but when the TV comes on the signal drops from the AVR then comes back on. I assume this is the TV handshaking/syncing with the AVR. This is part of the reason it was so slow on the Onkyo, only the Onkyo didnt "show" what was happening. Either way its still 5-10 seconds faster on a cold boot than the Onkyo was. Source switching is about 10 to 15 seconds faster.

I noticed a lot of complaints in the Google Play Store about Pioneers android app. Well, I installed it, it found my receiver and every thing I tried with it worked just fine. Not quite sure what all the complaints are about. The only "issue" would be if you dont have network standby enabled, the app cant see the avr until its powered up. Its not an issue with the app, I'm not sure why anyone would expect something that is essentially unplugged to be found on the network. Im also curious to try the VSX Remote app, which seems to have a LOT more functionality than the Pioneer app, but costs 3.00. The developer told me that it should be compatible with the 1222K. I used the basic version to confirm I can connect to it, switch inputs, etc but the full version gives you access to a ton of stuff.

I know, the most important part is the audio but I havent gotten there yet. Hopefully this weekend Ill get to play with it. Will post back my results.

-Chris

Nice!.... Let me know your bass performance!

Also, if your setup seems too bright, use X-curve feature to fine tune it...instead of manually messing with the equalizer.

Thanks. You have your setup guide handy? id like to give it a shot!

Thanks for this as well.

I just ran the Auto MCACC then watched the Dark Knight. Have to say the automatic MCACC didnt do a half bad job. It doesnt seem too bright, I think it lacks a little bass but not much. Compared to the Onkyo I had it "feels" about the same. I've also moved my subwoofer to a different spot (was in a corner before, but not anymore) so I know I lost some "free" bass from moving it out of the corner.

I jumped around the movie to try and find the loudest passages and I couldnt believe how cool the avr is after I was done. Score one for Class D!

I actually wanna use the MCACC s/w and check out the graphs it came up with. I know I cant have it correct the sub channel but Im wondering if I can do some basic correction myself with those graphs and an SPL meter.

BTW, it correctly chose SMALL for all my speaker sizes and set the x-over to 80Hz by itself. I guess it "ignored" the surrounds, since they can only handle 150 and higher? Not sure. I know Audyssey picked them out as 150.