Pioneer SC-1222-K Anyone? - Page 9

RE: newegg - getting discount after order ...

Thought about chatting but I've heard newegg can be pretty firm on their no price matching policy - I thought I'd have better luck calling.

I don't remember if I was even given a name - so sorry.

Her first response was that they do not price match. The leverage I had was that I had not received my package. I did "ask" if it was correct that I could refuse delivery and then just re-order with the $20 bucks off . . . she then said that I could get the discount. Today I received email confirmation of the $20 credit.

I was very nice about it, it's only $20 and the 1222 at $549 already seemed like a good deal - or I wouldn't have bought it. If you have been a good newegg customer, it might help to bring that up and say that you will be much more likely to continue shopping there ... if you get the $20!

Good luck.

Actually it was pretty painless....I chatted with them this morning, they said no problem since the only reason I already got the item was because I was so close to them (NJ to CT is basically overnight shipping, even when only using ground).

They gave me a 20.00 gift card, it isnt quite 20.00 credit back on my credit card but Im sure I can use the 20.00 up pretty quickly.

Does anyone know if Airplay is supported in Zone 2? It says network and ipod is supported in the manual but I wasn't sure if airplay would work.

To get the $20 back, you just have to be very persistent and they'll yield.

I only do this if I have not received the items yet though.

Sent!

Got it, thanks!

This might be a question for the MCACC thread, but figured Id ask here: I noticed the Pioneer does a lot more "work" (i.e. different pulses, sounds, etc) during auto-correction than Audyssey did.

Is it in fact getting down to finer details than Audyssey did? I found it quite interesting how many sounds the Pioneer output from each speaker vs the 3 or 4 "whoop whoop whoops" from each speaker when Audyssey ran. The fact that Audyssey doesnt really show you what it did makes me wonder if its doing more/same/less work than MCACC is doing.

I agreed totally with you. Audessey does a couples of "Whoops" as you said!... That is called "Impulse Test". The MCACC does lot more impulse tests than Audesssy; plus also makes other tones for resonance. Which is best? I don't know but clearly mcacc shows a better audio calibration system than audessey. Wish if some experts really measure and perform real tests between both systems!.....

sorry for a repost. But the only thing stoping me from pulling the trigger is if zone 2 can support airplay. would make my outdoor setup much simplier if its supported

Does anyone know if zone 2 supports airplay?

Hey guys I'm seriously thinking about going with one of these tonight, but have an opportunity to pick up an SC-05. Would you guys take one of these with its features over an elite that's about $50 cheaper?

It's up to you. Do you need networking? 3D? ARC?

There is a thread about using REW to compare room correction algorithms but I dont think I saw MCACC in there. Only YPAO vs Audyssey.

If I had all the tools I could have done the comparo while I still had the Onkyo. Need to get a USB sound card for my laptop so I can use REW. Would be interesting to see the results.

The fact that MCACC seems to "do more work" makes me wonder if thats one of the reasons it doesnt calibrate the sub channel as well. Maybe so much processing going on for the rest of the speakers?

Finally, Id be curious to see how the Audyssey pro kit works differently (or the same) as Audyssey included in the receiver. Maybe Audyssey Pro uses many different tones similar to MCACC.

I have actually turned calibration off and manually adjusted the settings to my liking i.e. bass, brightness, levels etc. Audio is after all a very personal taste!

Airplay and built in Pandora does work on Zone 2. I use it all the time.

Just set it up today, it's a sexy receiver it is.

But am I the only one that smells a plastic burning smell from the receiver?

its the varnish/wax used in transformer coil....it'll go away after several days of use

Quick question. I only have a 5.1 setup, so do I use the Surround or Surround Back connections? Does it matter? I really didnt see just a 5.1 only setup in the MCACC calibration/System setup.

I'm interested in this receiver, but I plan on using it mostly to play mp3 files from my computer or USB device (I don't own any iOS device). I've seen here many posts on how easy it is to control this receiver using an iOS or Android app, but (again since I don't plan on using either of these) I'm very curious whether the same can be done from a regular PC through a wired network. This would be the first receiver I ever bought and I don't really have any experience with them.

Use Surround first.

Surround back, I believe, is for 6.1 and I'm not even sure that many movies actually utilized it.

The remote is OK, but the app is another level of control.
You can always use an android emulator to run the app in your PC.

Regards

I am seriously considering this receiver over spending $150 more for a Denon 2313CI. I'd like to get a 3313CI but it is above my price range. Also, I have been fixated on needing Audyssey XT (for sub management) but, at $549 it's really hard to pass up for it's feature set.

I will be using this with Polk RTi A5 fronts, CSi A6 center, RTi A3's surrounds and a Klipsch RW-12d sub.

SC-1222-K Pros for me: class D amps, slightly higher wattage, 6th HDMI input on back which, i actually need.
Denon 2313CI pros for me: Audyssey XT and 4K (for possible future use).

Questions:
Is 63hz the only EQ adjustment point for the sub? What is this receiver doing to freqs below this point? I've read some people say (other sites) it is cutting them out which, I fail to believe.....
I see quite a few sites (including Newegg) saying this receiver has Neo:X. That is not correct, is it? Just Neo:6??
I've never had a rcvr with Audyssey XT. Can I make this receivers bass sound just as good through manual tweeking or, does Audyssey win out due to the limited EQ points of this rcvr?

Thanks,

habe

Audessey XT will NOT win over this receiver. The bass and sub from this receiver is really awesome after tweaking it. I can say better than my denon 3311 which has audessey xt. I own polks rtia7, a diy 15" sub and an emotiva xref 12. It has 3eq sub filter adjustments ranging from 63hz to 250z. You can select any freq between 63 and 250 and tweak it.

Not the expert here, however, I believe most bass issues occur below the 63hz point. It seems those adjustments would best serve satellite systems. Not speakers capable of 50hz or lower.

I tried this settings on full range speakers: Definitive Technologies BP7006 and my RtiA7 Polks. And even with the full range speakers setup crossover @ 50hz and EQing this freq really helps. Ultra Bass are below 20hz but any bass below 80hz should be manage by subs. So not necesarry those adjustments best serves only satellite systems. I found my 7006 works excellent when setting fronts as small and sw to yes or plus. Did same test settings fronts as large and they performs better when set as small.

I dont know how this Pioneer receivers handle everything below 63hz but it does an excellent job. Every Pioneer owner wish to have 24hz and 40hz Eq settings so we can manage better bass freq. An fw upgrade would be awesome but probably on next piomeer models.

Ok, I'm very interested in this feature of the receiver and I just wanted to make sure I understood this correctly: so you say that one can play the mp3 files from the PC on the receiver through the network? I would just like to be able to play a song from my computer on the audio system as if I was playing it on the laptop's speakers, without having to go through various menus on the TV screen. Maybe I'm asking too much from a receiver, but I find it somehow amazing that in this age in which you can buy a cheap tablet for $50, this is not as easy as it should be.

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Originally Posted by andrei60000

I'm interested in this receiver, but I plan on using it mostly to play mp3 files from my computer or USB device (I don't own any iOS device). I've seen here many posts on how easy it is to control this receiver using an iOS or Android app, but (again since I don't plan on using either of these) I'm very curious whether the same can be done from a regular PC through a wired network. This would be the first receiver I ever bought and I don't really have any experience with them.

The remote is OK, but the app is another level of control.
You can always use an android emulator to run the app in your PC.

Regards

just bought this receiver based on reviews in this thread.
it was this or the onkyo 818.
hope i made the right decision or someone's going to get hurt

In my personal opinion the 818 overall is a better buy if you can get it on sale. At full price not.

Thing that really kills the 818 for me is no gapless playback for flac/mp3 albums. It is good to see that Onkyo has finally fixed the 23.976fps bug though.....

Feature wise though, if you can get the 818 on a really good sale price, it is a killer receiver. THX, Neo:X.......

I could of gotten the 818 for $850

sounds like MCACC is not easy to use compared to Audassey?

Nope. It's very easy actually, there is an auto run MCACC that sets everything up and you'll be set after that.

But MCACC allows you to go in and fine tune it to your liking. Like enhancing the bass, or the mid-bass, or the treble, or whatever you want to. It's a little more customizable than Audyssey.