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post #361 of 378
I just received my new and very first Sub today. I am excited to get the thing going. Any tips on connecting to the Pioneer SC-1222? Do I run the MCACC again. I am connecting a Bic F-12. It states the A/V must be set to Pro Logic mode for the crossovers to work. I anyone can give advise, I would sure appreciate it. I am a stone rookie when it comes to this and really need the help.
thanks!
post #362 of 378
ON the rear of the subwoofer the setting are for digital surround or pro logic. Which setting is the better option for the 1222k? I don
t have a clue.
post #363 of 378
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Originally Posted by jake48 View Post

ON the rear of the subwoofer the setting are for digital surround or pro logic. Which setting is the better option for the 1222k? I don
t have a clue.
Not sure about your subwoofers settings. But you'll need to run MCACC again. Also there's some good tips in this pdf if you're not happy with the bass output. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcvouknssbseg0m/MCACC_SUB_EQ_1_3.pdf
post #364 of 378
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Originally Posted by g4s View Post

Not sure about your subwoofers settings. But you'll need to run MCACC again. Also there's some good tips in this pdf if you're not happy with the bass output. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcvouknssbseg0m/MCACC_SUB_EQ_1_3.pdf

Interesting article, I will have to try it out.
post #365 of 378
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Interesting article, I will have to try it out.
Yeah. One thing I did that was different, instead of adjusting the standing wave trim, I raised the sub level. I guess because I'm not completely clear on what changing the standing wave trim does. Anyway this system has never sounded better.
post #366 of 378
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Yeah. One thing I did that was different, instead of adjusting the standing wave trim, I raised the sub level. I guess because I'm not completely clear on what changing the standing wave trim does. Anyway this system has never sounded better.

I adjusted the standing wave trim, it seems to sound great to me, not too much bass, just enough. I have a two sub setup.
Edited by red71rum - 5/13/13 at 8:43am
post #367 of 378
I have a weird problem that I cannot figure out........

in any source that is in stereo mode, or when I choose stereo mode, for music for example, the source is very muffled and sounds like a horrible recording. I cannot figure out why this is. If I listen to a any source and swap from stereo to some sort of enhanced or theater effect, it sounds normal again. But any feature that uses ONLY my two main speakers sounds awful and very muffled and wrong. I will say that I AM bi-amping the fronts, and the receiver detects everything OK when I run MCACC.

Anyone have any ideas on what this could be? I am thinking of just resetting the receiver? I already did the software update and it didn't help this issue. Speakers are set to small, and subwoofer and everything else works fine.

Any help would be very useful, this really sucks
post #368 of 378
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Originally Posted by ragincajun5220 View Post

I have a weird problem that I cannot figure out........

in any source that is in stereo mode, or when I choose stereo mode, for music for example, the source is very muffled and sounds like a horrible recording. I cannot figure out why this is. If I listen to a any source and swap from stereo to some sort of enhanced or theater effect, it sounds normal again. But any feature that uses ONLY my two main speakers sounds awful and very muffled and wrong. I will say that I AM bi-amping the fronts, and the receiver detects everything OK when I run MCACC.

Anyone have any ideas on what this could be? I am thinking of just resetting the receiver? I already did the software update and it didn't help this issue. Speakers are set to small, and subwoofer and everything else works fine.

Any help would be very useful, this really sucks

Try running a single amp for them and changing the speakers settings accordingly in set up. You do trek the receiver that you were bi-amping right?
post #369 of 378
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I adjusted the standing wave trim, it seems to sound great to me, not too much bass, just enough. I have a two sub setup.
Two subs here also. I'll have to experiment with that setting sometime. Can always change it back. One of the pluses of MCACC, "it's tweakable."
post #370 of 378
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Originally Posted by scoobdude View Post

Try running a single amp for them and changing the speakers settings accordingly in set up. You do trek the receiver that you were bi-amping right?

Thanks mate, and yes it is set up as "bi-amp" in the mcacc settings menu

I will try single setup and if this doesn't work I will swap out speakers to eliminate that as an issue

Edit : fixed it. Massively idiotic issue. Bi wiring was done by my installer (ran wires through walls etc) and he plugged into the "front wide" instead of the surround backs. So I swapped em out to the proper location and all is well.

Had to pull a bunch of stuff out and use a flashlight to see but can't believe that this was done like that. I even provided them with specific instructions on how to wire it lol.

Oh well, all fixed now
Edited by ragincajun5220 - 5/13/13 at 2:43pm
post #371 of 378
May be a bit late, but I stumbled on the SC 1222 after looking all over the place for the Elite SC-61 reviews. The SC1222 is a SC-61 ninja in disguise it seems! I can't believe that it's the SC-61 minus a few options and a few hundred bucks cheaper. So, after checking out Newegg, they are still offering it at the same price, BUT they also have a -$50 promotion upon checkout. I wasn't planning on getting the SC-61 until a few months from now after saving money, but at $500, it's stupid ridiculous not to buy this. For those of you who have been on the fence, now is the time folks.

Here's my order receipt from a few minutes ago.

+ $50 off w/ promo code EMCYTZT3419, ends 5/14

Pioneer SC-1222-K 7.2-Channel Network Ready AV Receiver
Item #: N82E16882117412
Standard Return Policy
$1,099.99
$549.99
Subtotal $549.99
Tax $0.00
Newegg 3 Business Days $1.99
Promo Code -$50.00
Order Total $501.98

This made my day!!!biggrin.gif
post #372 of 378
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Originally Posted by mangamonster View Post

May be a bit late, but I stumbled on the SC 1222 after looking all over the place for the Elite SC-61 reviews. The SC1222 is a SC-61 ninja in disguise it seems! I can't believe that it's the SC-61 minus a few options and a few hundred bucks cheaper. So, after checking out Newegg, they are still offering it at the same price, BUT they also have a -$50 promotion upon checkout. I wasn't planning on getting the SC-61 until a few months from now after saving money, but at $500, it's stupid ridiculous not to buy this. For those of you who have been on the fence, now is the time folks.

Here's my order receipt from a few minutes ago.

+ $50 off w/ promo code EMCYTZT3419, ends 5/14

Pioneer SC-1222-K 7.2-Channel Network Ready AV Receiver
Item #: N82E16882117412
Standard Return Policy
$1,099.99
$549.99
Subtotal $549.99
Tax $0.00
Newegg 3 Business Days $1.99
Promo Code -$50.00
Order Total $501.98

This made my day!!!biggrin.gif

Or you can get the SC-1522 at Costco for $599.99.
post #373 of 378
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Or you can get the SC-1522 at Costco for $599.99.

Hmm, I have a 5.1 system. Are there any real benefits by getting the 1522 over the 1222? My fronts and surrounds are capped at 100 watts each. But, I want room for upgrading my speakers down the road. My theater room is smallish, so I can't go too big should I choose to upgrade. Also, I would have to pay taxes at Costco which would be around $650 at checkout.
post #374 of 378
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Originally Posted by mangamonster View Post

Hmm, I have a 5.1 system. Are there any real benefits by getting the 1522 over the 1222? My fronts and surrounds are capped at 100 watts each. But, I want room for upgrading my speakers down the road. My theater room is smallish, so I can't go too big should I choose to upgrade. Also, I would have to pay taxes at Costco which would be around $650 at checkout.

I had the SC-1222 and returned it and got the SC-1522 due to having 12v triggers for external amp.
post #375 of 378
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Originally Posted by mangamonster View Post

Hmm, I have a 5.1 system. Are there any real benefits by getting the 1522 over the 1222? My fronts and surrounds are capped at 100 watts each. But, I want room for upgrading my speakers down the road. My theater room is smallish, so I can't go too big should I choose to upgrade. Also, I would have to pay taxes at Costco which would be around $650 at checkout.

It will cut down on your upgrade-itis for a bit longer :P

Plus you can always add heights or rears or wides later or if you play video games on a ps3 you can use an extra set as speaker b to get music from another source while still having 7.1
post #376 of 378
Would this work with my SC1222 as an Ethernet bridge?: http://1saleaday.com/main/

I can connect my receiver via cat5 cable, but was interested if the above was a viable option considering it was a decent price and much cheaper than the official Pioneer version.


Edit: I bought it, looks like it will work fine.
Edited by red71rum - 5/15/13 at 1:46pm
post #377 of 378
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Originally Posted by red71rum View Post

Would this work with my SC1222 as an Ethernet bridge?: http://1saleaday.com/main/

I can connect my receiver via cat5 cable, but was interested if the above was a viable option considering it was a decent price and much cheaper than the official Pioneer version.


Edit: I bought it, looks like it will work fine.

Nice find, but it doesn't actually say it's a true universal bridge (that can used with anything with a wired port). If you can handle the setup complexity, bridges are usually better than a single-use host controlled dongle.

 

That said ... if you can run a wire, my experience is that it's always better (especially if doing video or un-compressed audio). Wireless has higher latency and speed is not guaranteed but wired pretty much is. Wired gigabit (1000) backbone (Cat-6 or better) is what I install these days. Even old Cat-5 (running at 100 full duplex) is better than most wireless. If you must, you can install a $15 5-port 100 speed desktop switch at the end of a single 1000 run, and it will handle multiple 100 streams.

 

Edit: If running new (permanent) cable or buying patch cords ... get Cat-6 or better (Cat-6a or Cat-6e). You can run gigabit/1000 over older (pre-installed) Cat-5e ... just don't push the length limit. For most residential installs, you should be fine. 


Edited by Tesla1856 - 5/15/13 at 3:33pm
post #378 of 378
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Nice find, but it doesn't actually say it's a true universal bridge (that can used with anything with a wired port). If you can handle the setup complexity, bridges are usually better than a single-use host controlled dongle.

That said ... if you can run a wire, my experience is that it's always better (especially if doing video or un-compressed audio). Wireless has higher latency and speed is not guaranteed but wired pretty much is. Wired gigabit (1000) backbone (Cat-6 or better) is what I install these days. Even old Cat-5 (running at 100 full duplex) is better than most wireless. If you must, you can install a $15 5-port 100 speed desktop switch at the end of a single 1000 run, and it will handle multiple 100 streams.

Edit: If running new (permanent) cable or buying patch cords ... get Cat-6 or better (Cat-6a or Cat-6e). You can run gigabit/1000 over older (pre-installed) Cat-5e ... just don't push the length limit. For most residential installs, you should be fine. 

I saw that users were using this with their Yamaha receivers, etc.. I would not be using this for streaming, just for the AVcontrol app and so on. I watch blu-rays because the sound via streaming is never as good.
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