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MCACC problems with sub

post #1 of 15
11/25/12 at 10:33am
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Hey

I using a small kef 3005 5.1 setup now, and then i run mcacc, the sub was messed. It sounds to muddle, distorton and sounds very boomy.

I also have a set of floorstanders, and then i run mcacc with them and no sub it sounds perfect, so it seems to me that the mcacc dont calbrate the subs.

I have also owned a receiver with audyssy xt and didnt have any problems with the subs after the calibration.

That said it was in a different room

Any help plz?

Thanks in advance
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post #2 of 15
11/25/12 at 10:37am
MCACC doesn't eq the subwoofer, that's the problem. You need a receiver with Audyssey MultEQ or higher.
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post #3 of 15
11/25/12 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

MCACC doesn't eq the subwoofer, that's the problem. You need a receiver with Audyssey MultEQ or higher.

Thanks for replying

Seems your right, but i realy expect better from an flagship receiver
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post #4 of 15
11/25/12 at 2:51pm
why? mcacc has been that way since day 1...
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post #5 of 15
11/25/12 at 3:55pm
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why? mcacc has been that way since day 1...

Well maybe its time they develop their system. MCACC is very good if you DONT have sub, atleast in my room
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post #6 of 15
11/25/12 at 4:09pm
they have a new advanced MCACC on the higher end Pioneer receivers like the SC-68. Maybe that version will eq the subwoofer. haven't seen it or tried it myself though.


http://www.hometheater.com/content/pioneer-elite-sc-68-av-receiver
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post #7 of 15
11/25/12 at 4:11pm
^^^

nope... still not there...

it's one of the big reasons why i'm no longer a pioneer fanboy and am now a denon ho'... smile.gif
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post #8 of 15
11/25/12 at 4:12pm
Nope, still no sub EQ on any Pio model current or previous.

Sounds like the main problem is the room, but a sub EQ unit lile a miniDSP or Antimode might help. I would try doing the sub crawl (do a search) first and move the sub around to see if you can find a better spot.
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post #9 of 15
11/25/12 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

they have a new advanced MCACC on the higher end Pioneer receivers like the SC-68. Maybe that version will eq the subwoofer. haven't seen it or tried it myself though.
http://www.hometheater.com/content/pioneer-elite-sc-68-av-receiver

I have the last years Pioneer LX 85, think its SC 57 in US, and the mcacc in 57 and 68 is just the same as i understand
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post #10 of 15
11/25/12 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

Nope, still no sub EQ on any Pio model current or previous.
Sounds like the main problem is the room, but a sub EQ unit lile a miniDSP or Antimode might help. I would try doing the sub crawl (do a search) first and move the sub around to see if you can find a better spot.

Thanks for your advice

The room is very small and akward/difficoult, and my cable to the sub is very short so i dont have much options to change the position.

Thinking much on Audyssey multi xt32 WITH EQ sub:rolleyes:
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post #11 of 15
11/25/12 at 4:49pm
^^^

well, you can always get a longer cable... wink.gif they are dirt cheap...

the antimode don mentioned is a good "plug and play" device... i used one both with mcacc and with audyssey xt units... i found that even with xt, the antimode helped...

that's a good thought process to have... wink.gif no need for antimode there...
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post #12 of 15
11/25/12 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
well, you can always get a longer cable... wink.gif they are dirt cheap...
the antimode don mentioned is a good "plug and play" device... i used one both with mcacc and with audyssey xt units... i found that even with xt, the antimode helped...
that's a good thought process to have... wink.gif no need for antimode there...

Yes cable is cheap:), but maybe my problem is the exuse i need to buy a receiver with XT32. I mean if i go for Onkyo i have flexible crossover and the new crossover network with biamping +++biggrin.gif
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post #13 of 15
11/25/12 at 5:09pm
^^^

won't do you any good unless you also remove the passive xover from your speakers... wink.gif

but i won't talk you out of a xt32 avr... imo, xt32 is the real killer app these days... i know i'm very pleased with the results....

of course, then we'll drag you into getting a pro kit, measuring tools, and spending hours tweaking and fiddling... tongue.gif
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post #14 of 15
11/25/12 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
won't do you any good unless you also remove the passive xover from your speakers... wink.gif
but i won't talk you out of a xt32 avr... imo, xt32 is the real killer app these days... i know i'm very pleased with the results....
of course, then we'll drag you into getting a pro kit, measuring tools, and spending hours tweaking and fiddling... tongue.gif

And how do you remove the passive xover from the speakers then?eek.gif.

I hope you didnt think i would biamp the little kef eggs:p
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post #15 of 15
11/25/12 at 6:08pm
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An article about crossover network...interesting stuff

http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CD0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.intl.onkyo.com%2Fpromotion%2Fdigitalcrossover%2Findex.html&ei=gs2yUOKSK7La4QS5noGQBA&usg=AFQjCNGOosvIyj0JTw29S7f4IJazvbJDzw
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