Die Hard 25th Anniversary Edition - Page 2

Ahhh; then I'll likely wait to see what we're getting with the 25th Ann editions; (I've see the individual discs on blu going for $5 here though, sometimes at best buy with a dvd trade in)

Looks like it will be the old master:

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluray-disc.de%2Fblu-ray-news%2Ffilme%2F39939-neuauflagen-der-stirb-langsam-reihe-ab-sofort-auf-blu-ray-disc-vorbestellbar&act=url

Quote: "According to Fox the same master will be used, so there won't be any change in image quality."

Disappointing, but not in the least surprising!

Congratulations to Fox for locking up the Most Pointless Release of 2013 early!

No buy. **** you, Fox.

Unsubscribing from thread.

I'm still hoping for the unrated Die Hard 4. Any news on that?

And.... I'm out.

Have fun, guys.

"Because you guys are are in the the ever shrinking minority of people who actually pay for physical copies of our movies, we will reward you with this lump of coal. Merry Christmas - 20th Century Fox
PS. Please don't steal out movies, that's not cool, also be sure to catch Die Hard 5 in theatres next year, it'll be rad"

Those of you that do Vudu, take your theatrical BD to Walmart and give them $2 to own the unrated version of DH4. If you have the DVD, it will be $5 for the HDX version.

It ain't half bad quality, considering.

Vudu does have the HDX version of Live free or Die Hard, but it's not listed in their disc to digital program as a possible trade up. Tried searching for it under Die Hard, and Live free or die hard, nothin.

Wow, you are right. I didn't check that before posting, but I had actually bought the HDX some time ago so did not even look to see if this was on the conversion list.

And I see that the HDX is up to $22.99. I paid $19.99 some time ago.

That sucks almost as much as Fox not releasing this version in a new box set.

HDX uses a higher bitrate, around 9/10 mbits I think...

Actually Vudu can stream close to 20 megs with HDX. Blu-Ray has a maximum bit rate of about 35 megs, although I have yet to find one that is higher then about 25.



Ian

If I remember correctly (and it's been a few years since I looked into Vudu,) the HDX streams can peak as high as 20 Mbps, but that's not the average (which is closer to 9 or 10 Mbps.)

Your numbers for BD are off as well, as it has a maximum video bitrate of 40 Mbps (48 Mbps for both audio and video.) Bottom line is that Vudu can't come close to touching the a/v quality of BD.

I have to say, between this and the bogus info about the rental version of Snow White, correcting your inaccurate information is becoming steady work.

The maximum video bitrates are even higher than 40 Mbps for Blu-ray. Many early encodes for Blu-ray were topping out at the 48 Mbps mark; studios reined that in to more mundane levels because some of the cheaper standalone players couldn't handle it that well. I know many modern AVC hardware encoders are capped at 40 Mbps for video, solely because of compatibility issues with the earliest Blu-ray players. Players like the PS3 can easily handle 48 Mbps for video encodes on Blu-ray.

I'm tempted to buy the HDX version as well, I have $5.99 in credit I could put toward it at the moment, I might rent it, but I hate to waste it if I like it tons mor than the theatrical.

How does the quality compare to the Blu Ray?

Never said it could. Nor was I quoting averages. If you still have a problem with my numbers, file a complaint with PC World, Mark Waldrep, President/Chief Engineer of AIX Media Group, and Ross Rubin, an analyst with NPD:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/241215/video_format_war_blu_ray_vs_streaming.html





If you read my post correctly about Snow White, it was in reference to another member's comment from the subwoofer forum and the Netflix disc HE rented. I appreciate your correction since you still had the same BD, however, as a long time member of AVS like yourself, I don't appreciate your comments about the authenticity of my postings. If you continue to have issues with my contributions to this forum, I'll be glad to put you on my ignore list, and you can do the same.



Ian
Edited by mailiang - 12/9/12 at 8:23am

VUDU's "HD" files are 720p. "HDX" is 1080p with higher bit rate.

Not quite as sharp or have the very fine level of detail that you can get with good BD masters, but it is also well above even a very good DVD. Audio quality is akin to DVD, which is to say, not bad but certainly not DTS-HD MA.

All things considered, IMO, this version of the movie is worth the compromise.

BTW, to those talking bit rates for HDX, I can't say the exact bit rates, but I use a LG BD690 BD player for Vudu which has a built in hard drive (I upgraded to a TB). The file sizes of HDX movies run from the low 6 GB to a little over 9 GB for a movie file. The master used is what really dictates the overall image quality. I have seen HDX movies that look really very good, especially considering the bit rate, and I have also seen upscaled DVD quality, and barely DVD quality at that.

Vudu offers a 2 minute preview. I always use that before buying even the low priced Walmart conversions. If it is no better than the DVD I already have, no point in paying another $5 for it.

Can't wait for the 5th film to rob my childhood some more like the 4th one did.

I still refuse to own any other Die Hard movie after the first one. The rest were just...dumb to say the least. To me there's only one real Die Hard.