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post #121 of 192
12/3/12 at 6:58am
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

It was a question.
The jury is still out.

Yep, and the word "BEST" is going to get a lot of "discussion". The thing with "BEST" in technology is being tools it'll always depend on what you're using the tool for. Everyone will look at it from the perspective of how they will use it. That's one reason you get these long "discussions". So, whether or not you think it's "BEST" be prepared when you ask for a lot of heated discussion. IJS...
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post #122 of 192
12/3/12 at 10:37am
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I'm enjoying the discussion. tongue.gif
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post #123 of 192
12/3/12 at 10:41am
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PCI Express 2.0 gives you 500MB/s per lane, so a 8x can in theory do 4GB/s. I doubt a raid controller can even keep up with that.

I've seen some cool builds using RAID SSD's that's just mind blowing.

Here's a guy with Vertex4's in a COSMOS II case that's pretty slick.



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post #124 of 192
12/3/12 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

You should get 8 of them and raid 0 on that new card your getting


There was interesting Anandtech article on something like this: FYI.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6228/asrock-x79-extreme11-review-pcie-30-x16x16x16x16-and-lsi-8way-sassata/10



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post #125 of 192
12/3/12 at 12:20pm
Lol, carpet sliders

I still haven't gotten the casters that I plan on adding to the bottom of my full tower. I wants me some wheels (I think they should come this way, come on computer geeks carrying 60+ lbs???)
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post #126 of 192
12/3/12 at 12:55pm
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Lol, carpet sliders
I still haven't gotten the casters that I plan on adding to the bottom of my full tower. I wants me some wheels (I think they should come this way, come on computer geeks carrying 60+ lbs???)

Lol.

Agree.

My Desktop is near 100 pounds before I started taking out HDD's. The case was 60 before I built in it.

I guess I gotta start hitting the gym again... lol.


How much does a NORCO 4224 with 24 HDD's weight ?? More than a loaded COSMOS II ? (I have no idea)

My COSMOS II is on hardwood. Rollers would be cool. It's a pain getting behind it when I need too.

I'm rehauling my desktop when I do my server- I'll post some more recent pics.

I am jealous of the benchmarks on the newer RAID 0 SSD's... lol. My Slow old Vertex3's struggle to hit 1000MB/sec.
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post #127 of 192
12/3/12 at 6:43pm
The Fractal Design Define Mini build I mailed today was 36lbs and change. I like my 6lb mini-ITX ones better. biggrin.gif
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post #128 of 192
12/3/12 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

They are at least 50% more than relatively comparable SSDs .

The best of anything is always more expensive, by far, then the rest. Again, just look at cars to understand this.

For a man who says he gave up, you appear to be still in the fight to say others must believe as you demand. Most people do not need the BEST NEW SSD for 2013, but that does not magically mean the more expensive item is not the BEST NEW SSD for 2013.
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post #129 of 192
12/3/12 at 7:30pm
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Yep, and the word "BEST" is going to get a lot of "discussion". The thing with "BEST" in technology is being tools it'll always depend on what you're using the tool for. Everyone will look at it from the perspective of how they will use it. That's one reason you get these long "discussions". So, whether or not you think it's "BEST" be prepared when you ask for a lot of heated discussion. IJS...

True, there are a few meanings of the word best. When talking about SSDs, it is understood that slower and smaller are two items that push a product further and further away from being the best. SSDs are desired because they are fast - which is why sports cars make a great analogy. A faster sports car has a far better chance of being the best sports car than a slower one. Other things matter as well, such as reliability...but when talking about the best in a group of products, price is not a factor. When talking about a best buy, sure, but that is a different beast altogether.
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post #130 of 192
12/3/12 at 8:03pm
Yeah, but my slower 2.0T is better because I get 28MPG, it's all-wheel drive (good for the snow) and the top on my car goes down. I wouldn't trade that for a 300HP rear-wheel drive Camaro even if it has t-tops biggrin.gif My BIL thinks his 12-passenger van is the best. But, he has 9 kids.
Edited by StardogChampion - 12/3/12 at 9:27pm
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post #131 of 192
12/3/12 at 8:25pm
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http://www.avsforum.com/t/1443218/new-intel-cpu-looks-very-interesting-is-this-the-best-new-cpu-for-2013/0_40


I laughed but didn't bite.

Lol
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post #132 of 192
12/3/12 at 9:23pm
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http://www.avsforum.com/t/1443218/new-intel-cpu-looks-very-interesting-is-this-the-best-new-cpu-for-2013/0_40
I laughed but didn't bite.
Lol

What is this, the Overclockers forum?

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post #133 of 192
12/3/12 at 9:31pm
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What is this, the Overclockers forum?
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Question: I have an A10-5700 that uses too much power and runs too hot. So, I underclocked it. Does that mean I have to go to the Underclocker's Forum?
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post #134 of 192
12/3/12 at 10:35pm
Nah, that means you should've bought Intel. tongue.gif
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post #135 of 192
12/3/12 at 10:48pm
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Assassin thread clearly states you shoulda got a hexacore lga2011.

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post #136 of 192
12/3/12 at 11:30pm
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

The Fractal Design Define Mini build I mailed today was 36lbs and change. I like my 6lb mini-ITX ones better. biggrin.gif

I got my first Fractal Design (Arc Midi) on Black Friday and being used to Lian-Li and HD-Plex build quality, it does look a bit low end. The fan controller they include is definitely twenty years old technology. Haven't they heard about PWM and temperature control? But I am proceeding with the build. Obviously it has no wheels so it is on a home built computer dolly for now.

Back to the SSD topic, I have to find that installing WHS 2011 in less than 180GB article.
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post #137 of 192
12/3/12 at 11:34pm
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Originally Posted by dksc318 View Post

Back to the SSD topic, I have to find that installing WHS 2011 in less than 180GB article.

I had a couple threads on it.

Just google it.

There is two methods so if one don't work use other.
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post #138 of 192
12/3/12 at 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by dksc318 View Post

Back to the SSD topic, I have to find that installing WHS 2011 in less than 180GB article.

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Originally Posted by Jacob B View Post

Been there, done that, have the divorce

It apparantly does not work on all hardware configurations as advertised. I had to use a hack:

Thanks to esullivan here: http://forums.connecteddigitalworld....__20#entry3618

I actually had to combine the two things, i.e. insert the USB stick with the cfg.ini file in the root as well as alter the hardware min requirement file (I changed HDD from 160 to 30 Gb). One without the other did not work for me. It did not run as an unattended setup, but it started up without having to choose OS disk etc.

You might also try adding [InitialConfiguration] to the cfg.ini file, if just having the WinPE lines doesn't work. And, like said earlier, try ALL USB ports before giving up...:

[WinPE]
ConfigDisk=1
CheckReqs=0
WindowsPartitionSize=MAX

[InitialConfiguration]
Language=en-US
Locale=en-US
Country=US
Keyboard=00000409
AcceptEula=true
AcceptOEMEula=true
ServerName=SERVER
PlainTextPassword=Password
PasswordHint=Password hint
Settings=All

Make sure you save it as an .ini file and not a cfg.ini.txt file ;-)
You wrote you saved it as a notepad file. That is a .txt file unless you choose "all file types" before saving!

Another important requirement:
http://forums.connecteddigitalworld....0gb/#entry2963

Last, once you get it going, remember to remove the USB key when the installation restarts the machine the first time!

Good luck!



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This look right ?

It is still not working.

Should it be cfg.ini or just cfg and an .ini file ?

When I named it -t shows at cfg. If I change name it shows in properties as cfg.ini.ini and that seems wrong.



As soon as you are greeted with the screen asking if you want a new install or to repair a previous one push Shift + F10 to bring up cmd.

Type "notepad.exe" without quotes then click file open and browse to sources/SKU/SERVERHOMEPREMIUM.def (you may have to select all files at the bottom so you can see the .def file).

From inside here you can change your amount of ram, number of cpu cores, HDD space, and processor speed to suit your needs. Save and close notepad.

Type "wpshell.exe" without quotes and hit enter => setup will restart with the new parameters.


That above did it!!!!
Edited by Mfusick - 12/4/12 at 3:57pm
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post #139 of 192
12/4/12 at 12:11am
Thank you for the info.

Here is the front fan controller (beige board) facing the HDD rack in my new Fractal Design Arc Midi.

The white wire is fan RPM pass through to MB fan header.
The green dot in upper right is the thermistor touching a HDD. I reused the stock Fractal Design fan for HDD cooling.

This fan controller has three modes, high, low, and temperature control. I got some Rosewill 140mm PWM fans to replace standard Fractal fans in other positions in the case. The CPU is only a i3-2100T so heat should not be a problem. The RocketRaid 8 port cards do get hot and I used a similar fan controller on these cards.

The two HDD at top are Black Friday trophies. One is a WD green drive but it should be ok with the RR card since it will be used in JBOD mode.
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post #140 of 192
12/4/12 at 6:47am
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Cool. How's the noise on that case ?
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post #141 of 192
12/4/12 at 7:03am
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Assassin thread clearly states you shoulda got a hexacore lga2011.
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I think that might be the only thing I haven't built with yet. I wonder if they have LGA2011 mini-ITX motherboards and if it'll run off a 120W power supply. biggrin.gif
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post #142 of 192
12/4/12 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

I think that might be the only thing I haven't built with yet. I wonder if they have LGA2011 mini-ITX motherboards and if it'll run off a 120W power supply. biggrin.gif

Get that 1600 watt PSU and upgrade the circuit breakers in your home to use it.tongue.gif
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post #143 of 192
12/4/12 at 7:55am
LOL, I have a 7.2KW PV array but we only get full sun average 6 hours a day. Then I have to turn it off the other 18. They did upgrade the main feed, a higher gauge 6in wire, when they put the array in.
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post #144 of 192
12/4/12 at 1:21pm
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Huh ?
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post #145 of 192
12/4/12 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Huh ?

He pulls 7200 W from the sun for 6 hours a day

PV (photo-voltaic) array
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post #146 of 192
12/4/12 at 4:24pm
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post #147 of 192
12/5/12 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

Yeah, but my slower 2.0T is better because I get 28MPG, it's all-wheel drive (good for the snow) and the top on my car goes down. I wouldn't trade that for a 300HP rear-wheel drive Camaro even if it has t-tops biggrin.gif My BIL thinks his 12-passenger van is the best. But, he has 9 kids.

Those vehicles are not best, they cannot go hundreds of feet under the water and stay running like even a mid range submarine can do...

Context is king, when talking about best wrt SSD, it is understood that speed is the main criteria. This is why the sports car analogy works well.
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post #148 of 192
12/5/12 at 11:28am
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Speed is certainly an important aspect. If it wasn't we would all be using HDDs still.

How fast is needed is a subjective question. The answer is unique to each person and situation.
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post #149 of 192
12/5/12 at 12:24pm
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512GB X (6) = RAID 0 3TB SSD BOOT DRIVE.






512GB X (6) = RAID 0 3TB SSD BOOT DRIVE.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2285673
That is serious business.
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post #150 of 192
12/5/12 at 12:30pm
That would be soooooooo fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL, that guy's thread cracked me up
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