New Vector SSD looks very interesting. Is this the BEST NEW SSD for 2013 ? - Page 2

Personally I'd run out of room with only 128GB as a scratch disc. I'd need much bigger which makes SSD a bad choice for.

I am curious if I could use Intel SSD cache and use a spare 60GB Vertex2 I have laying around to boost my HDD speeds... and run it on a RAID0 array.

Anyone know if you can boost a RAID0 drive array with Intel SSD cache ???

Another review up on Tomshardware:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vector-ssd-review,3358-10.html

Right. As the speed of the overall system increases- and the demands of the end user increase it's much more of an issue.

The Vector being at the performance level it's at is appropriate for a high end build. It's more expensive than a cheapo SSD drive so it's not appropriate for a budget build.

In the context of this forum and average $500 HTPC's -it's probable overkill and under appreciated.

In the context of say an i7 based performance desktop, gaming rig, or workstation- I think it's highly appropriate and it's advantages are more appreciated.

It seems like the Vector is approaching on the limitations of the SATA interface. That's impressive. I am wondering if there with be a SATA4 coming out soon ????

I agree that on a budget build- or a basic use PC it's not a big deal. However- There is plenty of people with very high end PC's and even high end HTPC's that might want it's performance benefits.

It's sometimes hard to judge these things from and outside perspective because I think everyone puts their own personal situation into the mix and individuals are all different.

If I was very wealthy- I wouldn't think twice about spending a little extra on one of these bad boys just to make sure I have a very high level of performance. Flip side- If I was budget constrained I'd quickly and easily look for a lower performance and cheaper alternative.

It's interesting to me to see the negative reaction of many folks here towards this new drive- seemingly because it's "too good" or viewed as "overkill" and "not needed"- as well as the idea of it not being significantly noticeable real world in a basic HTPC environment. To me- I think if anything drives like this are great because it's going to push the bar higher on general SSD performance and it's going to make cheaper the less SSD's and limit the price premium commanded at retail. I think the greatest side effect of this drive, and the SamsungPro- are that they are going to be pushing down the prices of lesser SSD's- which are more applicable in a basic HTPC budget build.

I'll sign up all day to be able to purchase 128GB SSD's that now cost $100 for $59 in a couple months. Your going to see drives like Vertex4, CrucialM4, Samsung840, dropping further in price I think. Why would you buy one if you can get a 128GB Vector for near the price and a longer 5 year warranty ??? Only logical answer would be a personal distrust of OCZ or a preference for another brand. That might make sense on individual levels. Other than that- There isn't one. So it's almost obvious to me the positive benefits of SSDs like the new Samsung840Pro and the Vector are two fold. First- They will increase the general performance level of SSD's and force other MFG to improve their products to keep up AND/OR secondly cause the other MFG's to decrease prices of their lesser drives to provide a reasonable value proposition for the consumer and maintain sales.

Love it or hate it-- I think it's good news for SSD's in general. The negative reaction surprises me as there is clear benefits in it's existence beyond simply owning one personally.

For my desktop I am looking at this one possibly next year and also possibly the Samsung840Pro. There has been a few threads about the Samsung840's dieing or failing at overclockers and Anandtech- so I'll keep an eye out on that. Also keep an eye out on how the reliability of this new Vector turns out. Assuming no other new entries into the market- it's going to be the decision between these two I will make next year when I upgrade I think.
Edited by Mfusick - 11/28/12 at 9:31am

Whats the point in buying a corvette when the speed limit is 65?

How come people build hot rod cars with 600 horsepower when you don't need that?

I spend a good deal of my free time on my PC as an enthusiast. I surf the net while doing other stuff. Right now AVS is on my left 23" monitor, but behind that there is two sessions of MakeMKV running ripping blu rays to my Hitachi HDD. On my right monitor i am unzipping a few winrars- and running handbrake to convert a disney movie for my wifes Iphone. I will probably open a game of Command and Conquer in a second while these processes complete in the background before I return to AVS.

The way I use a PC- I can tell a difference. I can certainly tell a difference between my work PC (Asus LGA775 Core2 Duo E8500 3.16ghz, 4 GB DDR2 800mhz, Sata3 120GB SSD) and my i7 desktop at home. It's very obvious.

I am a super impatient personality type- and the faster PC allows me to do more and get off it faster. Waiting is an unbearable thing for me. Clicking a program - I want it instantly to do what I want it to do. Any lag is simply unacceptable. I am jealous of people that don't know better and sit and watch and wait patiently for the PC to do the task. Personally I can't operate a HDD based OS PC. I just go nuts.

I've built 25 PC's this year of various prices and levels of performance. While perhaps in a basic HTPC an ordinary user might not not notice much difference, I can assure you I certainly can tell a difference.

I was blown away by the speed improvement in RAID0 SSD array. If I could have figured out TRIM on my Z68 I would have kept it. It was black and white faster to me.

There is a difference between an ordinary user and an enthusiast.

If all I did was surf the web and play back movies-- I probably would not notice either.

I use chrome with Firefox simultaneously... on dual screens. Both are good.

Your right about the memory thing.

I notice the speed most in high multitasking, launching games, and encoding... I guess is the short answer.

And ... Certainly no offense taken

I am not the sensitive type.

Very interesting.

Thanks for this excellent post.

Interesting Article on OCZ today:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/29/us-ocztechnology-interview-idUSBRE8AS0KQ20121129?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews&rpc=76

Stock also popped 30% up..

I remember saying something earlier about it being possibly a good opportunity...

Still 30% pop the day after I said it is mildly worth an "I told you so"

lol.

I could not help myself.

Actually there isn't many 30% pops because the increase was smaller percentage since the stocks total price was greater.

It might have increased more... but percent gain was smaller. regardless I said yesterday it could possibly be a good move... so a 30% pop the next day was funny to me.

I think we all agreed OCZ was at the bottom. That article I linked explained why. Mostly warning on earnings and accounting discrepancy. That scared the crap out of investors.

Yup. I think Samsung will be the go to choice on low end as time goes.. Unless Crucial actually steps up with a better product.

I said from the first post it's interesting to see the SSD MFG's that make their own controllers dominating the performance segment. OCZ and Samsung.

That leaves Sandforce and Marvel drives like Crucial M4 or the Mushkin to battle out the price war at the bottom. OCZ has long been a strong player in the price wars... so I'll be sad to see them go.

But the higher performance drives should price down the older and lower performance drives. That's a good thing for HTPC builders.

I'm getting to the point where most of my builds are coming from hand me downs... I'd rather replace my desktop SSD with a better and use that for a cheaper build vs just buying a cheap one new.

My drive has 99% life left on it according to my bench- so I guess it lasts a long time. It's only a year old in February.