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Or my fav Magnolia

I've always thought the ending was kind of a letdown and silly. After all the characters have been through, did he really need to go with the frogs? ... Anyway, you just reminded me I need to buy this one asap!
post #32 of 109
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Quirky mentally ill characters DONE RIGHT = One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

One of my all time favourites! Seriously, it's in my top ten films.
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Or my fav Magnolia and Punch drunk Love both by PTA

I guess I should stay away from PTA. I couldn't stand Punch Drunk Love, and I haven't seen Magnolia. I did see The Master, which was beyond boring even though it featured some of the best performances of 2012.

With SLP, I actually liked the characters a lot and felt like I kind of related to their issues as an outsider. I enjoyed their brutal honesty and that the story was told rather brilliantly. For me, it's one of the best rom-coms I've ever seen, and like A Philadelphia Story and When Harry Met Sally, I'll revisit it many times over.

Different strokes, I guess.
post #33 of 109
What??? you're a film critic for NY media group and you haven't seen Magnolia... a film that was nominated for BP and best supp actor for Tom Cruise? Is this a joke...
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What??? you're a film critic for NY media group and you haven't seen Magnolia... a film that was nominated for BP and best supp actor for Tom Cruise? Is this a joke...

No joke. Just one of many films I never got around to seeing. Based on my experience so far with PTA, do you really think I should watch it? wink.gif I'll give it a chance one day soon. Trying my hardest to catch up on the many films I haven't seen, but should.

And that's YR Media Group. One day when I've seen Magnolia, they'll let me into the NY Media Group. tongue.gif
post #35 of 109
All this talk about Magnolia motivated me to watch my BD of the film again. It was just as wonderful as I had remembered, maybe more wonderful. What a great film with a sensational ensemble cast!
post #36 of 109
Time to get this movie back on the right track; it was very good. I wouldn’t put it in a greatest category, but very good. I agree about the excellent performances, especially Bradley Cooper. However, I wasn’t as blown away with Jennifer Lawrence’s performance as everyone else. She was very good, but (I haven’t seen the performance in Amour) my pick would be Jessica Chastain (it wouldn’t have been close between the two), or even Naomi Watts’ gritty performance in The Impossible. I just didn’t see an Oscar winning performance from Lawrence.

A nice bit of humor was thrown in to counter what could have been a depressing movie. I could easily watch this again, but it doesn’t have multiple repeats for me.

We were cracking up over DeNiro and his ritualistic obsession with the Eagles because I’m the same way with the Redskins. DeNiro nailed me. biggrin.gif

With all of the talk about Chris Tucker’s performance in TFE going on in the “Lucy” thread, I had to laugh when he made his first appearance.
post #37 of 109
There are 2 strikes against this film. Definitely not my type of movie but got BC and JL in it. Being a Giants fan, sure no fan of the Eagles.

The story took a while to develop, but the scripts and acting were excellent, definitely top rated. I still prefer JL from Winter's Bone, a much tougher and demanding role at her age. BC and DeNiro made a wonderful combination, again.

I do like the ending but does not do it for me; seemed a bit of stretch.
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Time to get this movie back on the right track; it was very good. I wouldn’t put it in a greatest category, but very good. I agree about the excellent performances, especially Bradley Cooper. However, I wasn’t as blown away with Jennifer Lawrence’s performance as everyone else. She was very good, but (I haven’t seen the performance in Amour) my pick would be Jessica Chastain (it wouldn’t have been close between the two), or even Naomi Watts’ gritty performance in The Impossible. I just didn’t see an Oscar winning performance from Lawrence.

You may not change your opinion, but the film needs to be seen a second time. Jessica Chastain's performance was more two dimensional, but upon initial screening at the theater, seemed to be quite impressive. A second viewing of ZDT at the theater and of the BR led me to what I thought of her performance. At first I thought that she was a shoe-in for Best Actress. But then there was the political fallout. Seeing JL's performance a second time at the theater made me realize the subtleties of her performance and was way beyond Winter's Bone. I did see Amour and was a lot less impressed with the film as well as Emmanuelle Riva's performance.
post #39 of 109
Pretty good. Loved Cooper and J-Law. Followed the Hollywood formula for the most part but the subject matter and performances made it enjoyable for me. I liked this movie better when it was less gooey and called Buffalo ’66. wink.gif
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I liked this movie better when it was less gooey and called Buffalo ’66. wink.gif
Agreed.
post #41 of 109
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You may not change your opinion, but the film needs to be seen a second time. Jessica Chastain's performance was more two dimensional, but upon initial screening at the theater, seemed to be quite impressive. A second viewing of ZDT at the theater and of the BR led me to what I thought of her performance. At first I thought that she was a shoe-in for Best Actress. But then there was the political fallout. Seeing JL's performance a second time at the theater made me realize the subtleties of her performance and was way beyond Winter's Bone. I did see Amour and was a lot less impressed with the film as well as Emmanuelle Riva's performance.

I have the Zero Dark Thirty BD and have watched it a couple of times, after each of which I thought even more highly of Jessica Chastain's luminous performance than I had when I saw it in the theater. I really, really wanted Chastain to win the Best Actress Oscar. Although I was disappointed when she didn't win, I thought Jennifer Lawrence was a worthy choice.

I haven't seen Amour so can't comment on the quality of Emmanuelle Riva's performance. Because Amour was an obscure, art house, foreign language film, I didn't think that it should have been nominated for the Best Picture Oscar, nor did I think that Emmanuelle Riva should have been nominated for the Best Actress Oscar.
post #42 of 109
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No joke. Just one of many films I never got around to seeing. Based on my experience so far with PTA, do you really think I should watch it? wink.gif I'll give it a chance one day soon. Trying my hardest to catch up on the many films I haven't seen, but should.

And that's YR Media Group. One day when I've seen Magnolia, they'll let me into the NY Media Group. tongue.gif
Well amigo if you didn't like Punk Drunk love then prob you won't like Magnolia but be honest with ya I can't imagine anyone not finding something amazing in that film...Tom Cruise over the top Frank macky Daddy dating guru performance, William Macy's brilliant HILARIOUS Donny "whiz kid" Smith, Julianne Moore's naughty bad trophy wife character, Tom C Reily goofy doofess girl shy cop character, Philip Seymour Hoffman's caretaker, Alfred Molina as the hot head Arab boss short cameo, and of course last but not at all least the incredible performance of Melora Walters junkie. And not to be out done prob the most amazing haunting movie scores throughout the movie.

The frog raining scene I think was just a symbol of washing away everyone one's sins and starting over after storm and the sun clears. Anyone of those main amazing performance could have or should have won an Oscar.

Now if you watch that and tell me none of those star banging cast did nothing for you then I'm speechless. But some ppl just don't gravitate or appreciate certain work from any director regardless of the material...for me that would be Steven Soderberg, David O Russell, Chris Nolan, Darren Onorfsky, Terry Giiliam, M Knight, Matthew Vaugn, Tim Burton, to name a few...all wankers and whackers bringing nothing to the entertainment table. Just my opinion so YMMV
Edited by zoey67 - 5/3/13 at 4:13am
post #43 of 109
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No joke. Just one of many films I never got around to seeing. Based on my experience so far with PTA, do you really think I should watch it? wink.gif I'll give it a chance one day soon. Trying my hardest to catch up on the many films I haven't seen, but should.

And that's YR Media Group. One day when I've seen Magnolia, they'll let me into the NY Media Group. tongue.gif

For me, PTA is a classic case of starting strong (really strong) and sliding downhill ever since. Magnolia was his last watchable effort for me. I suggest Hard Eight (A.K.A. Sydney) and Boogie Nights, his early masterpieces. BN is worth it just for Cheadle (as Magnolia is worth it just for Melora Walters - she's also in BN.)
post #44 of 109
HOLY Toledo..maybe I should take the David O Russell back. Anyone seen this film American Hustle coming out the end of the year? sh1tfire that's big cast..

Cast:
Jennifer Lawrence
Bradley Cooper
Christian Bale ...
Robert De Niro
Amy Adams ...
Jeremy Renner
Michael Peña
Louis C.K.
Erica McDermott
Melvin Weinberg
post #45 of 109
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HOLY Toledo..maybe I should take the David O Russell back. Anyone seen this film American Hustle coming out the end of the year? sh1tfire that's big cast..

Cast:
Jennifer Lawrence
Bradley Cooper
Christian Bale ...
Robert De Niro
Amy Adams ...
Jeremy Renner
Michael Peña
Louis C.K.
Erica McDermott
Melvin Weinberg

You had me at "Jennifer"... wink.gif ....Very impressive cast indeed!
post #46 of 109
From Cracked.com:

#3. Dr. Patel in Silver Linings Playbook Does a Dangerous Experiment for No Reason

Silver Linings Playbook is about a man named Pat (Bradley Cooper) who is suffering from bipolar disorder and his romance with the equally screwed-up Tiffany (Jennifer Lawrence). Guiding Pat through his recovery is his court-ordered psychiatrist, Dr. Patel, who, true to Hollywood doctor tradition, likes to use methods that are a little outside the box.

Early in the film, Pat has just gotten out of a mental hospital and goes to see the psychiatrist. When he gets to the waiting room, he hears Stevie Wonder's "My Cherie Amour" playing over the sound system. He frantically searches for where the music is coming from, knocking over some furniture and scaring the living hell out of the other people in the waiting room.

Why would that song freak him out? It was the song that was playing when he discovered that his wife was having an affair, triggering a mental breakdown that prompted him to beat the other man nearly to death. That's when he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and the court ordered him to stay in a psych ward for eight months. Since then, "My Cherie Amour" has become his personal trigger for anger and anxiety. Sometimes he even hears it when it's not actually playing.

We then find out that Pat's doctor actually arranged for that song to be playing when Pat walked in. Patel explains, "I just wanted to see if it was still a trigger for you."


But Wait a Minute ...

You know what would've been another way to find out if that song was still a trigger for Pat? He could've said, "Hey, Pat, is that one Stevie Wonder song still a trigger for you?" What reason would Pat have to not tell him the truth? At the very least Patel could've waited until Pat got into his office and given him a heads up that he was going to play the song to gauge his reaction.

Instead, Patel turned this into some kind of weird, informal psych experiment. In a profession where establishing trust with your patient is key, he forced Pat to question his grip on reality (since he's had auditory hallucinations of this song in the past) without Pat's consent, in front of strangers. Moreover, Patel subjected his other patients in the waiting room to the volatile reaction that he forced out of an ill, unmedicated, extremely dangerous guy whose previous violent behavior nearly killed a man.
post #47 of 109
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You know what would've been another way to find out if that song was still a trigger for Pat? He could've said, "Hey, Pat, is that one Stevie Wonder song still a trigger for you?" What reason would Pat have to not tell him the truth? At the very least Patel could've waited until Pat got into his office and given him a heads up that he was going to play the song to gauge his reaction.

and Pat could have said "no, no, I'm fine, I'm better now, see?".... not even suspecting he was, in fact, not fine. The trigger is the song itself, not the idea of it. He was able to talk about it without going nuts, the real test was to hear it.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
...What ultimately made him better isn't the meds of course (or certainly not just them), it's the love and attention he gave to her, even in spite of himself (since he was at first fooling himself about getting back to his wife), and the feeling of being loved by someone else. Which was desperately missing in his life - and in both their lives.

Now go and see this movie again dammit! wink.giftongue.gif
post #48 of 109
Not as "dangerous" as Melfi hanging the picture of the old barn in her waiting room for Tony to find.
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Time to get this movie back on the right track; it was very good. I wouldn’t put it in a greatest category, but very good. I agree about the excellent performances, especially Bradley Cooper. However, I wasn’t as blown away with Jennifer Lawrence’s performance as everyone else. She was very good, but (I haven’t seen the performance in Amour) my pick would be Jessica Chastain (it wouldn’t have been close between the two), or even Naomi Watts’ gritty performance in The Impossible. I just didn’t see an Oscar winning performance from Lawrence.

A nice bit of humor was thrown in to counter what could have been a depressing movie. I could easily watch this again, but it doesn’t have multiple repeats for me.

We were cracking up over DeNiro and his ritualistic obsession with the Eagles because I’m the same way with the Redskins. DeNiro nailed me. biggrin.gif

With all of the talk about Chris Tucker’s performance in TFE going on in the “Lucy” thread, I had to laugh when he made his first appearance.

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I have the Zero Dark Thirty BD and have watched it a couple of times, after each of which I thought even more highly of Jessica Chastain's luminous performance than I had when I saw it in the theater. I really, really wanted Chastain to win the Best Actress Oscar. Although I was disappointed when she didn't win, I thought Jennifer Lawrence was a worthy choice.

I haven't seen Amour so can't comment on the quality of Emmanuelle Riva's performance. Because Amour was an obscure, art house, foreign language film, I didn't think that it should have been nominated for the Best Picture Oscar, nor did I think that Emmanuelle Riva should have been nominated for the Best Actress Oscar.



I thought Jennifer Lawrence's performance was top notch and easily oscar worthy, as was mr. Cooper's and de niro's, but outside of the weight of political correctness and the red/blue polarization of our country, Jessica Chastain provided us with sheer brilliance in zdt. Not only was it the best femaile performance of a startlingly special year of outstanding performances as well as movies. ZDT, IMHO, was the clear unrecognized best movie of the year



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From Cracked.com:

#3. Dr. Patel in Silver Linings Playbook Does a Dangerous Experiment for No Reason

Silver Linings Playbook is about a man named Pat (Bradley Cooper) who is suffering from bipolar disorder and his romance with the equally screwed-up Tiffany (Jennifer Lawrence). Guiding Pat through his recovery is his court-ordered psychiatrist, Dr. Patel, who, true to Hollywood doctor tradition, likes to use methods that are a little outside the box.

Early in the film, Pat has just gotten out of a mental hospital and goes to see the psychiatrist. When he gets to the waiting room, he hears Stevie Wonder's "My Cherie Amour" playing over the sound system. He frantically searches for where the music is coming from, knocking over some furniture and scaring the living hell out of the other people in the waiting room.

Why would that song freak him out? It was the song that was playing when he discovered that his wife was having an affair, triggering a mental breakdown that prompted him to beat the other man nearly to death. That's when he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and the court ordered him to stay in a psych ward for eight months. Since then, "My Cherie Amour" has become his personal trigger for anger and anxiety. Sometimes he even hears it when it's not actually playing.

We then find out that Pat's doctor actually arranged for that song to be playing when Pat walked in. Patel explains, "I just wanted to see if it was still a trigger for you."


But Wait a Minute ...

You know what would've been another way to find out if that song was still a trigger for Pat? He could've said, "Hey, Pat, is that one Stevie Wonder song still a trigger for you?" What reason would Pat have to not tell him the truth? At the very least Patel could've waited until Pat got into his office and given him a heads up that he was going to play the song to gauge his reaction.

Instead, Patel turned this into some kind of weird, informal psych experiment. In a profession where establishing trust with your patient is key, he forced Pat to question his grip on reality (since he's had auditory hallucinations of this song in the past) without Pat's consent, in front of strangers. Moreover, Patel subjected his other patients in the waiting room to the volatile reaction that he forced out of an ill, unmedicated, extremely dangerous guy whose previous violent behavior nearly killed a man.


Well not only did dr. Patel engage in some questionable clinical practices, he also had difficultieses maintaining proper ethical requirements with his mentally ill patients.

He shows up at the saltano household after the fight at the eagles game and was at the dance.

Well I know it's hollywood license to do this stuff, and I really don't care cause the movie worked so well, but ........l






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post #50 of 109
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I have the Zero Dark Thirty BD and have watched it a couple of times, after each of which I thought even more highly of Jessica Chastain's luminous performance than I had when I saw it in the theater. I really, really wanted Chastain to win the Best Actress Oscar. Although I was disappointed when she didn't win, I thought Jennifer Lawrence was a worthy choice.

I haven't seen Amour so can't comment on the quality of Emmanuelle Riva's performance. Because Amour was an obscure, art house, foreign language film, I didn't think that it should have been nominated for the Best Picture Oscar, nor did I think that Emmanuelle Riva should have been nominated for the Best Actress Oscar.

There was no doubt in my mind that Emmanuelle Riva deserved the Best Actress Oscar and I thought choice #2 was Jessica Chastain. I didn't think Jennifer Lawrence should have even been nominated for Best Actress. Don't get me wrong. I thought she was delightful and charming in SLP (and the one worthwhile thing in the movie even though her role was bizarre). It just wasn't a role where there was any coherent acting in. Frankly, I thought that SLP was a complete and utter mess with no real center and no real idea of what it was about or the nature of the mental disabilities. Each actor had their "scene" which were basically substituted for plotline. SLP and Argo were both vastly overrated.
post #51 of 109
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There was no doubt in my mind that Emmanuelle Riva deserved the Best Actress Oscar and I thought choice #2 was Jessica Chastain. I didn't think Jennifer Lawrence should have even been nominated for Best Actress. Don't get me wrong. I thought she was delightful and charming in SLP (and the one worthwhile thing in the movie even though her role was bizarre). It just wasn't a role where there was any coherent acting in. Frankly, I thought that SLP was a complete and utter mess with no real center and no real idea of what it was about or the nature of the mental disabilities. Each actor had their "scene" which were basically substituted for plotline. SLP and Argo were both vastly overrated.

I didn't see Amour in the theater because, among other reasons, it was playing in only one OKC theater and it was too far away for me not to be interested in taking a chance on a foreign language film. Then, when it was released on disc, Amazon only had an imported edition for $25 and there is no BD edition. So you see where I was coming from when I called the film "obscure."

I get that you didn't like Silver Linings Playbook. It is so edgy and different, it's no surprise that it takes some viewers the wrong way. I loved it, though, and thought Jennifer Lawrence's performance was both charming and moving. I also loved Argo, which so impressed me when I saw it in the theater, I bought the BD.
post #52 of 109
It never ceases to fascinate how reasonable people can differ. I trust both gwsat and dz, but differ from both here. Loved SLP, almost but not quite hated Argo. For Argo, the 3rd act ruined it for me - Hollywood studio crapolla, chase scene included at no extra charge smile.gif
post #53 of 109
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There was no doubt in my mind that Emmanuelle Riva deserved the Best Actress Oscar and I thought choice #2 was Jessica Chastain. I didn't think Jennifer Lawrence should have even been nominated for Best Actress. Don't get me wrong. I thought she was delightful and charming in SLP (and the one worthwhile thing in the movie even though her role was bizarre). It just wasn't a role where there was any coherent acting in. Frankly, I thought that SLP was a complete and utter mess with no real center and no real idea of what it was about or the nature of the mental disabilities. Each actor had their "scene" which were basically substituted for plotline. SLP and Argo were both vastly overrated.

Well because I respect the opinions of all the prior posters, i must point out you're all wrong.

Armour should not be viewed cause its foreign and about sick, old people.

Argo was great till they faked the final scenes about the Iranians coming after the diplomats at the airport which never happened.

If you don't like slp you're probably a terrorist, but while I loved the exhilarating ending, about an hour later I said to myself, you know, that really doesn't make a lot of sense and is somewhat cliche'est.

ZDT takes it for me cause it got snubbed for no good reason other it was courageous enough to take on the issue of American government sanctioned abuse of detainees, and was punished accordingly and inappropriately
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Well because I respect the opinions of all the prior posters, i must point out you're all wrong.

Armour should not be viewed cause its foreign and about sick, old people.

Argo was great till they faked the final scenes about the Iranians coming after the diplomats at the airport which never happened.

If you don't like slp you're probably a terrorist, but while I loved the exhilarating ending, about an hour later I said to myself, you know, that really doesn't make a lot of sense and is somewhat cliche'est.

ZDT takes it for me cause it got snubbed for no good reason other it was courageous enough to take on the issue of American government sanctioned abuse of detainees, and was punished accordingly and inappropriately

Your logic is impeccable. I also forgot that Sally Field's performance is one that should have been considered prior to Jennifer Lawrence's. But, now that I think about it, JL is so damn cute that I have no idea what I was just talking about.
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Argo was great till they faked the final scenes about the Iranians coming after the diplomats at the airport which never happened.


Biography Channel had Tony Mendez and two of his colleagues on the other night discussing Argo. I found it to be as interesting, and was presented with just as much tension as the movie without the fabricated scenes. But I also understand why they do this type of thing, so I’m not all that bothered about it because I don’t look to movies to give me an accurate description of history. One or two embellishments I can handle; half a dozen or more I tend to have a problem.
Edited by Aliens - 5/12/13 at 4:06pm
post #56 of 109
Considering how far off most historical films are, ARGO deserves props for not completely screwing the pooch. It's a good film.
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Considering how far off most historical films are, ARGO deserves props for not completely screwing the pooch. It's a good film.

...even though it completely and astonishingly undervalues the massive relevance and importance of the Canadian impact on the entire mission. If you believe Ben Affleck's take, all the Canadian's did was let the hostages stay at their house.
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...even though it completely and astonishingly undervalues the massive relevance and importance of the Canadian impact on the entire mission. If you believe Ben Affleck's take, all the Canadian's did was let the hostages stay at their house.

+1
post #59 of 109
As to JL getting the Oscar - and the comments wondering why here lately - perhaps the Academy simply took the same route Monty Python did in the Summarizing Proust sketch....simply give the award at the end to the girl with the biggest t*ts:

I for one am A-OK with such a decision.wink.gif
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SLP and Argo were both vastly overrated.
Just curious, which movie/s of 2012 would you rate higher?
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