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post #31 of 91
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Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

That said, I'm not married

That says a lot wink.gif

But seriously, being married is about making joint decisions of the layout of your house and about significant buying decisions (and, and and..).

A nice HT (or 2.1) will be a significant purchase and will significantly impact how a room looks.

"Parenting" or "mothering" is somewhat condescending, WAF is part of enjoying someone's company and life smile.gif

Now the best path is getting WAF for a room (i.e. man-cave) where all subsequent decisions may be made with reckless abandon (given adequate budget, of course) - now we're talking cool.gif
Edited by rick240 - 12/1/12 at 6:44pm
post #32 of 91
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Csgamer tell your wife that the cute dog in your pic will appreciate the magnificent sound that your new speakers will create while watching movies and the west minster dog show on t.v I think that you should bring her to the hi fi store and play her favorite song and if that doesnt get her to let you buy them then dance with her in the store and make her smile. Play old songs that you two remember and loved while dating. Maybe it will convince her.
post #33 of 91
I bought the B&W N804 when I was single. Had them for 8 years (married for 6) and got the wife used to good speakers.

Then When it was time to upgrade I told her I was getting 'slightly' bigger versions as I couldn't possible get the same exact speakers (804Diamonds) .

Baam...802 Diamonds in the house...

To say she was shocked was an understatement.....
post #34 of 91
I have no problem with the wife....she enjoys HT as much as I do. My setup is currently in our LR. I wonder how many wife's would let you hang a 50" plasma from the ceiling so a 110" motorized screen can drop down in front of 3 RF7IIs and my 6 shelf A/V rack. She's a keeper smile.gif
post #35 of 91
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Originally Posted by rick240 View Post

That says a lot wink.gif
But seriously, being married is about making joint decisions of the layout of your house and about significant buying decisions (and, and and..).
A nice HT (or 2.1) will be a significant purchase and will significantly impact how a room looks.
"Parenting" or "mothering" is somewhat condescending, WAF is part of enjoying someone's company and life smile.gif
Now the best path is getting WAF for a room (i.e. man-cave) where all subsequent decisions may be made with reckless abandon (given adequate budget, of course) - now we're talking cool.gif

I can agree with your points. I guess, my irritation comes from reading all the posts over the years from guys worrying so much about their wives. Like I said, as long as my wife/girlfriend isn't knocking a wall down or tearing the roof off, it doesn't really bother me what she decides to purchase, so long as it isn't putting us in the poor house. I just can't believe that going out and buying a couple of speakers or piece of AV equipment and adding it to a living room would upset anyone. rolleyes.gif

Perhaps, it's due to misunderstanding or over-exaggeration on the part of some people telling their stories.
post #36 of 91
Here's what I did:
I bought some used Bose off Craigslist and hooked them up. Every time she complained that the sound was muffled and she can't hear what the hell they're saying, I'd tell her it's those crummy Bose and what we really need is some higher quaility speakers.
After a while she said, fix it! I don't care how.
Now I have Salk SCST and SCSC and now it's fixed
Now I need a plan to get a Parasound amp smile.gif
post #37 of 91
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knifeguy did you tell your wife no highs no lows must be bose? I hear people say that a lot about Bose speakers.
post #38 of 91
I thought that was, "all highs, no lows."
post #39 of 91
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Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

I can agree with your points. I guess, my irritation comes from reading all the posts over the years from guys worrying so much about their wives. Like I said, as long as my wife/girlfriend isn't knocking a wall down or tearing the roof off, it doesn't really bother me what she decides to purchase, so long as it isn't putting us in the poor house. I just can't believe that going out and buying a couple of speakers or piece of AV equipment and adding it to a living room would upset anyone. rolleyes.gif
Perhaps, it's due to misunderstanding or over-exaggeration on the part of some people telling their stories.

This isn't my example but it is an example of an extreme case that I read on reddit. One man was trying to figure out how to use all ceiling speakers in his HT because his SO would not compromise on the front stage being cluttered by speakers. Even in-wall units were a no-no. It finally came to the point where the thread was saying to just give the room up when it came to sound and/or reach some other compromise. It started to get a bit heated talking about how the SO was being unreasonable and how it was going to be a deal breaker, but in the end, you make your own priorities. Seems like real first world problems to me.
post #40 of 91
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anyone else have a story to share about getting the wife approval factor?
post #41 of 91
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knifeguy lol@ the crummy bose.
post #42 of 91
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true browning it is nice of her to let you have that big tv from the ceiling. I wish that women wouldn't always worry so much about what matches with the purple color size etc for everything. They should just let the guys enjoy the good sound from speakers even if they are big or don't match decor.
post #43 of 91
My wife pretty much lets me do whatever I want, but out of respect I ALWAYS ask her what she thinks of something, long as whatever I buy thats going to be any sort of visual in the room sort of matches teh rest of the decor she doesn't give a ****.

As far as they money part goes, so long as the bills are paid, I spend a little on here here and there, I have free reign to do whatever I want with my money.
post #44 of 91
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are most of you lucky on getting the waf the first time or it usually works the second or third time of asking her? if she says no maybe you can bribe her with jewelry or nice clothes?
post #45 of 91
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Originally Posted by keyboardcat View Post

are most of you lucky on getting the waf the first time or it usually works the second or third time of asking her? if she says no maybe you can bribe her with jewelry or nice clothes?

In my situation, bribing won't work. She is the breadwinner out of us two, lol. The biggest reason for her saying no to speakers is space because I want big floorstanders. Marriage is about comprimise, I went years without big speakers since we currently live in a 815 sq ft condo and been moving around a lot to small apartments. I also have lots of workout equipment in the bedroom even though the condo complex has a exercise room, so it's not like I never get my way. A few years ago, she told me I can keep my speakers or my workout equipment, but can't keep both. I love my power rack and weights, so I kept them and sold my speakers.

But now, we are moving to a 2000 sq ft townhouse in a couple weeks. I get two of the rooms to do whatever I want. But, speakers in the living room probably have to look okay to her. She just approved a $2000 budget on speakers.
post #46 of 91
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice View Post

No worse than God did when he came up with the design of our ears. I guess He figured that working well outweighed pretty. Speakers are supposed to sound good, and that doesn't always mean they'll look good. The same applies to feet, explaining why women need so many pairs of shoes. Keeping that in mind, tell her you're going to buy some speakers and that she should go buy some nice shoes. Problem solved. Just pray that she doesn't buy Manolos.

biggrin.gif Good post.
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Originally Posted by keyboardcat View Post

knifeguy did you tell your wife no highs no lows must be bose? I hear people say that a lot about Bose speakers.

How about this one? The acronym for Bose is Buy Other Sound Equipment. biggrin.gif
post #47 of 91
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rick240 what equipment did your wife let you get for your mancave?
post #48 of 91
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are women likely to approve a speaker id it's ugly looking but sounds good?
post #49 of 91
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for the men who had good luck with waf buying magnepan speakers how did you convince them?
post #50 of 91
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since McIntosh amps are expensive are they hard to get wife approval factor?
post #51 of 91
It is better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
post #52 of 91
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oh okay stono so if you buy it from a place that doesn't accept returns then you are off the hock and she will understand and forgive you? I have heard of two hi fi shops in the past that don't accept returns unless it is defective.
post #53 of 91
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Originally Posted by keyboardcat View Post

rick240 what equipment did your wife let you get for your mancave?

I don't have a man-cave.

In the media/HT room, when we moved in we had an old JVC HTIB that I had.

I upgraded in steps...

...first to KEF iQ1 and iQ2 for the front and KEF 2001 for the rears, and a Paradigm DSP-3100; a nice upgrade, with modest size speakers

...shortly thereafter, I got an Oppo Blu-ray and wanted to get into multi-channel music, so the iQ1 became rears, the 2001 became computer speakers, and 3 KEF iQ3 became the fronts (she thought they were a bit big, but not hugely so - actually thought the larger rears were closer to a limit) and the 3100 was replaced with a Rythmik F12.

She's now used to all of it, so the itch for an upgrade is happening again biggrin.gif
post #54 of 91
I had stereo equipment from the late 70's when I married my wife.
After a few years she wanted to replace it with decorator friendly gear so I went out and bought an expensive Bose package and hooked it up.
It was a big gamble, but she is a trained musician so I was counting on the superior sound of the old speakers to win out over decor friendly Bose cubes.
After listening to it for a very short time, she asked if the old speakers were still connected and I said yes.
She wanted to know if I could switch back and forth between the new speakers and the old ones, and I said yes.
After a few A/B's she asked if we could get our money back on the Bose and I said yes.
I never heard another word about the big speakers and when it did come time to retire them, small speakers were not even on her wish list.
post #55 of 91
this is what I did when I secretly bought a DAC: My wife always listens to Adele since we bought that cd. Somehow, she's already contented playing it on a Samsung htib. One time, I asked her to sit with me while I play Adele on my HT (PS3 --> AVR) . I asked her if she heard any difference, and she said yes (well HT is still better that htib when it comes to audio IMHO).

The next thing I did, is switched to "CD" on my avr (where the dac is connected), change the audio out of PS3 to optical and then played the cd again. I asked her again if she noticed any difference(s) and she said the vocals are more pronounced/"livelier". She then asked me what have I done. "Tada! I bought a dac!" biggrin.gif
post #56 of 91
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

Show her something absurdly large, and tell her you want it. Like some Danley DTS-10s and some Klipsch Jubilees, tell her you think you need those in your living room. Look disappointed when she says no. This starts the negotiating position high in your favor.

And if like my wife she says "do whatever...", SHUT UP, say no more until they are delivered. BTW, it seems to be a great match.
post #57 of 91
My wife is amazing in this regard. She generally just let's me decide "what's best". But we do have a reasonable understanding of what is cost effective and aesthetically pleasing, vs. ugly or gaudy.

But generally if I am interested in something that we have either: A) not budgeted for or B) already have something similar, I'll mention it a few times, test the waters a bit and see how she responds. If she is intrigued, I'll list all of the pros to it, but won't go overboard talking about it. Then generally I'll wait for her to bring it up again later. If she doesn't, I'll casually mention something about it again. If at that point she still seems interested, I'll pursue it more, but if she acts uninterested at that point, I'll typically let it be.
post #58 of 91
It's easy... just have a pregnant wife on bed rest for the last 3 months of the pregnancy. Take care of your 2 1/2 yr old boy, do all housework, yard work, and grocery shopping while working 40+ hours a week. Then, mention in passing that since we'll be sending more time at the house with our young family you'd like for them to have the same enjoyment that you had as a child watching movies with your family... Next, drop hints of what type of new gear you want for Christmas but then say it's too expensive to get all at once. She may say "well, you've been working hard and you deserve some new stuff".

That may not work for everyone, but it worked for me.

I just replaced my old DLP that died with a bigger and better plasma and I think my wife is starting to enjoy the TV/movie watching experience a lot more, which helps too.

We’re both sort of low maintenance and just go-with-the-flow types and she’s not impressed with expensive things (saves me $$$ in jewelry!). We’d both rather rent a condo on a beach for 2 weeks than spend $ on frivolous things so anytime we have a bigger purchase ($300+ or so) we talk about it first. As most have stated already, marriage is about compromise and understanding. It’s not about who wins or loses.
post #59 of 91
easy... i got the ones she wanted AND let her pick out the veneer... smile.gif

if i had had my way, there wouldn't be tower speakers in my theater... but NOOOOO... she wanted big boxes...
post #60 of 91
My wife might complain about the cost, but she won't complain about my choice of speakers in terms of aesthetics/sound. She knows that home theater is my domain.
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