Official JVC DLA-RS46 / DLA-X35 owners thread - Page 9

This is my thought as well. Has there been any official word on what this patch covers?

I think I might just return my unit instead of dealing with the headache. Agree a new unit should be shipped to us then we return ours.

Do you guys know what is the firmware update for? What possible issues is it fixing?

Also, do you guys use your projector in low or high lamp? I know this is a very specific question but I'm curious

It's supposed to fix 3d ghosting I believe.

I run in low lamp but I do have a high power screen. High makes that thing real loud

I also run in low lamp mode. High lamp does make a noticeable difference, but it is plenty bright in low lamp in my setup.

As Holiday121 mentioned, it is loud in high lamp mode. It's not bad if you're watching a movie with an active soundtrack, but it is annoying during quite scenes.

Has anyone heard anything about the update. Seems no one has said anything since the 19th. I called AVS and they seemed to think the update was very minor but I haven't heard anything about it since.

Here is part of the email I got back from JVC.

" I understand you are inquiring about the "upgrade" for your DLA-RS46 projector. This update is to improve the 3D performance and it can only be done through our authorized service center"

tks. I wonder how long we are going to be withuot our projectors. I thought that the 3-d was already better. Do they have somthing to totally (mostly) get rid of ghosting etc. I've seen a couple of 3d movies at the theaters and haven't been very impressed. Very dark.

I heard the same thing from AVS. I don't have my RS46 yet (it should arrive Monday) but I'll wait to hear feedback from those who've seen both pre- and post-update projectors before I decide whether I'll bother sending mine in.

low lamp as well, I can't imagine watching on high lamp, its just zoo loud!
waiting for news about the update from jvc Canada...

I am interested in this projector Jvc rx35, but this update issue has me wondering. Do I really want to spend 3.5 grand on a projector that has to be opened up and reflashed srtaight out of the gate. I would like to experience JVC black level (coming from Epson 1080ub) everything I have read the entry level JVC should be an upgrade in black level. I am on the fence with this one.

Any new product can have issues. This appears to be an oversight as the update is for the RS46/X35s only. The rest of the JVC series doesn't need an update. I would just be sure that you wait and get a unit that has the update so as not to have to hassle with a return/flash before you can use it. If 3D is your thing I would wait for results from Zombie10k's shootout before making a definite decision on the JVC.

That is good advice my friend. Thanks for your response.

Does anyone know if we send our unit in for the update, will we get the same unit back (our actual projector), or will they just swap it with another unit that was returned? I haven't even used mine yet (other than a quick test), so I don't want to get a unit back that has several hours on the bulb.

I just wasn't sure how these updates work. I don't plan to use 3D that often, but I also have some down time since I am still finishing my theater, so now would be the best time to send it in.

Nick

Any new shipping projector already has the update. I confirmed this with JVC this week. So if you haven't ordered one yet but plan to, you'll be fine.

If I thought there was any danger of this happening, then I wouldn't bother sending mine back in: I don't watch 3D and don't even have the glasses or emitter (so getting it done is purely to protect resale in the unlikely event I decide to sell it within the first year or two) but also I have such good convergence that I doubt I'd get a better one in return.

Great review!
http://www.avforums.com/reviews/JVC-DLA-X35-X35BE-X35WE-3D-DILA-Projector-Review_452/Review.html
Winner in the category!
Edited by cl7gr - 12/24/12 at 9:46am

I received my RS46 from AVS today -- unfortunately I'll need to exchange it because it's got two bright blue stuck pixels. The convergence is fine, but the focus on the left-hand side of the screen is also pretty soft -- one-pixel thick lines look like two-pixel thick lines. Oh well -- Mike's taking care of me and will be advance shipping a new unit on Wednesday.

HOWEVER, the real reason I'm posting is that I discovered that the new Panasonic RF (Bluetooth) 3D glasses work perfectly with the new JVC RF emitter. Likewise, the JVC RF glasses work great with the 2012 Panasonic plasmas. I like the JVC glasses better, but not at 2x the cost of the Panasonics. What's more, it's almost a sure thing that the cheap Samsung Bluetooth active 3D glasses (I think they're around $20-$30) will also work with the JVC RF emitter.

The lenses are considerably bigger on the JVC glasses and to me they're more comfortable. Performance is the same as far as I can tell.

I do notice quite a bit a flicker with both pairs of glasses, but I guess I'm just sensitive to it, because my wife said she couldn't notice it at all. It figures -- I see DLP rainbows too. Crosstalk performance seems about the same on the JVC as it is on my Panasonic plasma. In other words, it's not perfect, but it's more than acceptable. And the 3D brightness of the JVC projector is better than I expected even on low lamp mode (I'm using a 110" 16:9 1.4 gain Carada screen, my throw distance is about 12 feet, and I have the JVC's iris all the way open).

The Panasonic 3D glasses are the 2012 TY-ER3D4MU model.

One other thing...I'm having some aggravating handshake/signal strength issues that I haven't had before -- but only when viewing 3D material. I suspect my long (35 foot) in-ceiling cable run is the issue. I'm going to try a signal booster and, if that doesn't work, I'll have to use a wireless HDMI solution. Grrrrr.

I'm curious to hear some feedback on what the 3D firmware upgrade improves. The JVC's 3D performance with the current "bad" firmware exceeded my expectations (which were based on what I'd read here) but if the new firmware improves crosstalk and flicker even more that'd be pretty great.
Edited by Schwa - 12/25/12 at 1:12am

I have a couple of questions, if someone can answer them:

1) Has anyone experienced a problem with streaky text? Some RS45s had this problem last year; I don't know how prevalent it was, but mine had it.

2) Has anyone compared the RS46 to the HW30? I say the HW30 instead of the HW50 since I think the 30 is closer in price to the RS46 than the HW50 is (could be mistaken).

I saw what could be described as "streaky text" on my RS4810. However, on further examination I was able to see a similar text streaking when looking really close at my television. So I'm not sure it was entirely projector related.

Regardless, I also had a stuck on blue pixel so the projector is being exchanged based on that alone.

I'll have to check when I get home

I think KMR was referring to the vertical streaks that show up under and over white text on a black background. You can also see it if you display any bright image (like a white pause icon of blu-ray player) on top of a black background. It might be caused by some internal reflections because sometimes you will see the bright image reflected somewhere else on the screen. I don't think this is a defect because I've seen it on multiple JVC projectors.

I found this on a previous HD350 I had, most noticeable on end credits so a kind of ghost image of the title might appear elsewhere on the screen. I had my projector mounted dead centre with no lens shift in either direction. Simple fix was to move my projector higher up and apply vertical lens shift. It didn't impact on sharpness that I could tell from my seat (even close to the screen it looked good) but the ghosting went. Even since I've used the higher mounting set up with shift and my new X35 looks pin sharp in this position and I've not seen any ghost reflections on it.

I know some are almost obsessed with not using lens shift for fear of causing softness, but for me I'd rather get rid of something I can see from my seat (ghosting) rather than worry about something I can't (as it looks plenty sharp enough still). If it helps my set up is max throw, so minimum zoom, minimum iris the former meaning that I get a sharper image than being near full zoom anyway. I believe that as the iris is opened up the ghosting effect is less pronounced.